Good evening and welcome to day number six of John Durham's trial against Mr. Michael Sussman,
who is of course the former Clinton campaign lawyer who's being charged for lying to the FBI.
And, well, just as expected, this trial is beginning to shed quite a bit of light on
what was really happening behind the scenes, both during the 2016 election,
as well as beyond, into Donald Trump's actual presidential term in office.
Now, specifically, the biggest bombshell to have come out of this case, at least thus far,
is the fact that, according to the testimony of the Clinton campaign manager,
it was Hillary herself who approved giving the Trump-Russia allegations to the media.
It was not some lower-level aide. It was not some advisor. It was not some random staff member.
No, it was Hillary Clinton herself.
Now, again, to be fair, up until this moment, that's what a lot of people suspected anyway.
However, this is the first official on-the-record confirmation of this actually being the case.
Now, the man who was giving this testimony is named Robbie Mook.
You can see him up on screen for yourself.
During the 2016 presidential race, he was the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton.
And the reason that I wanted to point that out, the reason I believe it's relevant,
is because it's worth highlighting that Mr. Robbie Mook was not a low-level intern.
He was not some mid-level advisor. This man was instead the top dog.
He was quite literally the manager of the overall presidential campaign.
And last Friday, when he testified on the witness stand in Durham's trial,
well, Mr. Robbie Mook revealed the fact that Hillary Clinton personally
approved the plan to spread the false documents to the media,
which purportedly showed that Trump was somehow colluding with Russia
through secret servers set up between Trump Tower and a Russian bank.
Now, recording of any kind was not allowed in the courtroom,
and so we only have a handwritten transcript of this exchange.
And so what we here at The Epoch Times did was that we recorded our own version of this testimony.
Take a listen. And for your reference, by the way,
the female voice will be the lawyer on John Durham's team,
and the male voice is the Clinton campaign manager.
In the summer of 2016, was Mr. Trump's relationship with Russia
something that the campaign focused on?
Yes. I mean, it was frankly something we were focused on before that time, but absolutely.
And once you learned about it, the Trump-Russia allegations,
you started discussing with the campaign whether the campaign
should affirmatively push it in the media, right?
Correct.
And you had that discussion with Mr. Sullivan? With Mr. Podesta?
Just to be clear, this is what I recall those people... Correct.
Okay. You had a discussion with Mr. Sullivan?
Yes. I recall... Yes.
Whether to push it in the media, right? With Ms. Palmieri? With Mr. Podesta?
Correct.
But in any event, the decision to provide this to the media
was authorized by the campaign, correct?
We authorized a staff member of the campaign to provide it to the media.
Mr. Mook, before the break, you had testified that there was a conversation
in which you told Ms. Clinton about the proposed plan
to provide the Alfa Bank allegations to the media. Is that correct?
And what was her response?
All I remember is that she agreed with the decision.
We told her we have this and we want to share it with a reporter. She agreed to that.
When did this take place?
I can't recall exactly when Hillary Clinton made the move.
All I can remember is she agreed with the decision.
She thought we made the right decision.
And so again, if you've been following this case all along,
well, then you might not be that surprised.
However, this is the first true on the record account of this actually taking place.
And it's also rather amazing to see how this political weapon was actually deployed.
Because what happened shortly after the Clinton authorization
is that someone from the campaign, from the Hillary campaign,
took the false Trump-Russia collusion allegations to a reporter over at Slate magazine,
which is a left-leaning online publication, and they ran with it.
In fact, they published this story here that you can see up on screen for yourself titled,
Was a Trump server communicating with Russia?
And the subhead for that article reads, quote,
This spring, a group of computer scientists set out to determine
whether hackers were interfering with the Trump campaign.
They found something they weren't expecting.
And as you can see, that article was published
just five short days before the actual presidential election
on the late afternoon of October 31st.
And it's worth pointing out that nowhere in that article,
nowhere within the actual text does it mention that it took the FBI,
quite literally, just one single day to realize
that these allegations had absolutely no merit.
But that didn't really matter.
Because within hours of publication,
the Clinton campaign amplified that article's reach a thousandfold.
That's because one of Hillary Clinton's senior policy advisor,
a man by the name of Jake Sullivan, you might recognize him.
He's the guy in the Biden administration who's now giving
all these briefings about imminent war with Russia.
Well, back then, he issued an official statement
from the Clinton campaign, which said this in part, quote,
This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow.
Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server
linking the Trump organization to a Russian-based bank.
The secret hotline may be the key to unlocking
the mystery of Trump's ties to Russia.
It certainly seems the Trump organization felt it had something to hide,
given that it apparently took steps to conceal the link
when it was discovered by journalists.
And then, going even further beyond just that statement,
Ms. Hillary Clinton herself shared that message on Twitter
and added this, quote,
And notice that nowhere in those two messages
did either Jake Sullivan nor Hillary Clinton
mention that they were the ones to actually
hand that information to the reporter.
They also did not mention that one of Hillary Clinton's campaign lawyers,
well, he was peddling the same information to both the CIA as well as the FBI,
while at the same time billing the Clinton campaign
for the hours that he spent doing so.
And then, going even further than that,
these allegations themselves, they came from a tech executive
who had a vested interest in getting Hillary Clinton elected.
That's because Mr. Rodney Joffe,
who is the tech executive behind the actual Trump-Russia bank allegations,
well, he said that if Hillary Clinton was elected,
he would be assigned a top cybersecurity job by the Democrats.
Here's specifically what this tech executive said,
according to John Durham's indictment, quote,
And so again, all this information,
all this stuff happening in the background
was absolutely hidden from public view.
And instead, the national conversation was usurped
and the public was gaslit into thinking that President Trump
was quite literally a puppet of the Russian state.
And the repercussions of that are something
that we're still living with today.
That's because this Trump-Russia narrative
that Hillary Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country
It disgraced the FBI,
who doubled down even harder after the truth came to light.
It humiliated the media,
who never corrected themselves after the truth came to light.
It sent the country on a three-year-long investigation to nowhere,
which cost the taxpayers about $40 million at least.
It hampered the first two years of a democratically elected administration,
meaning the Trump administration.
And then lastly, because of the anti-Russian sentiment
that these allegations created throughout the entire country,
it put a real wedge in any type of diplomatic relations
between the two countries.
Now, it might be a far stretch to say that Russia
would not invade Ukraine, a far, far stretch.
But think about it.
At the very least, if over the past six years,
instead of this Trump-Russia collusion fiction,
if instead there was a concerted effort to normalize relations,
to pull Russia closer to the West and outside the orbit of China,
and to strengthen the communication channels
between Washington and Moscow,
well, who knows what the world would be like right now.
But instead, we got what we got,
which was a two-year-long investigation led by Bob Mueller,
which raises a very important question
that I believe also needs to be answered,
which is how could it be that Bob Mueller
spent two years investigating the Trump-Russia collusion story
with a team of 19 lawyers,
$40 million in resources,
40 FBI agents,
2,800 subpoenas,
500 search warrants,
and 500 witnesses,
and somehow he did not find out that it was Hillary Clinton
who authorized the dissemination of the Trump Alpha Bank story.
It really, really makes you wonder how that could have happened.
Regardless, there was another testimony last Friday during the Durham trial
which showed us, at least in part,
what would have happened if the FBI was aware of Hillary's involvement.
This testimony, it came from Mr. James Baker,
who used to be general counsel for the FBI.
He now works for Twitter, actually.
And on the witness stand, he said that back in 2016,
he would not have met with Mr. Michael Sussman
if he had known that Mr. Sussman
was actually acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign.
Here's specifically what he said on the witness stand.
...would have raised very serious questions,
certainly about the credibility of the source
and the veracity of the information.
It would also have heightened a substantial concern in my mind
about whether we were going to be played.
Absent Sussman's false statement,
the FBI might have taken additional or more incremental steps
before opening and or closing an investigation.
I was willing to meet with Michael alone
because I had high confidence in him and trust.
I think I would have made a different assessment
And so the Durham saga continues
with more witness testimony scheduled
for the remainder of this week.
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