The Purpose of Communism Is Not to Govern

[Music] the sort of communist idea that if you crush the people that are causing the problems then you will solve the problems that's the intrinsic communist idea that's right is that the Communist political so the American experiment is open-ended they're not say other than the Republican form of government they're not saying how we're going to end up with a more perfect union but they do say you know Justice and so on or these tools um the Communists believe that communism is the correct answer period so it is not possible that the communism is wrong it's only possible that the communism is being sabotaged by class enemies it's by people who are are as you said you know doing the wrong thing and so when you read Lenin about the dictatorship of the proletariat and he draws his view which is not necessary marks and angles weren't exactly consistent across all of their writings but he draws his views directly from primarily angles uh but also partly marks on what he calls a dictatorship of the proletariat Lenin is absolutely clear you can read it for yourself it's in state and Revolution it's not that long um but he's the first chapter is really all you have to read here too he's absolutely clear that the point of the dictatorship of the proletar is to destroy the Bourgeois that's it that's the whole point the dictatorship of the proletariat meaning his band of thugs is is going to represent the entire proletariat cause and that it's its entire purpose is it's a dictatorship it's not even to govern its purpose is to smash the enemies of the state and uh governing and everything else comes second and because the belief is that if everybody else transforms into a communist we won't have to govern you that's where they say or again that was marks in the uh gosh where did he write that one the state will wither away was that in the critique of the go to program um so he writes that you know the state will wither away of its own accord well Lenin gives an entire chapter in state and Revolution to that what is it mean that the state will wither away of its own accord and what it means is that when everybody's actually fully communist we won't need to govern you there's no need to govern people who have already got it figured out who are already governing themselves but they're all going to have to be Communists they don't get to choose what they're going to be they're all going to be Communists but when they all are we won't have to govern you which p ps not to open a can of worms but that's the same model as Islam when everybody believes the exact same version of Islam then and they have the perfect Islam means submission to Allah then they won't really need to be governed anymore because um you know everybody's doing it perfectly is already well the idea here is that um they'll wither away because everybody's communist so if there's still the need for governance and the entire chapter in state and Revolution talks about what the state actually is and what it's for the state exists to maintain or to destroy class Society that's that's what Lenin says about the state so the social State exists to destroy class society and the um the bis State exists to maintain class Society so if you are not obtaining the Communist Utopia where everybody fully believes it that means you've got to find the people who don't fully believe it and Destroy them whereas the American again totally different experiment the American view was well um we're going to let you believe what you want we're going to let you own what you have and what you can get we're going to let you trade according to your own views your own desires if you want to keep your if you want to grow an apple tree and keep all your apples that's your business if you want to let them rot that's your business and if you want to sell them to your neighbor that's your business if you want to give them to your neighbor that's your business uh we're going to stay out of it a complete opposite and the idea was we're not going to tell you what you have to believe we're not going to tell you what you have to say if you don't like what we're doing in the government you have the right to petition for redress of your grievances try try that in a communist country try that in a fascist country go tell the fascist government you don't like what they're doing see what happens to you we know what happens in the fascist communist China where Jack ma said some things he didn't like about the CCP and he disappeared he didn't just get shut up he disappeared he came back later very changed but he he disappeared you know he's a billionaire he's one of he was about to launch the largest most valuable IPO in the world and they just disappeared him because he was thought it would be a good idea to be slightly critical of the CCP at that moment like holy crap you don't get that in the United States you get the secured right to petition your government for redress of grievances in the First Amendment um French Revolution they came up with a new calendar everybody had to be on the new calendar it had 10 days a week the months there was 10 months a year there was 10 hours a day like literally 10 hours a day they just you know deal with that try to figure it out the clock's like totally new now you can go see some of these anti clocks with 10 uh 10 position position on them and that run like you know 2.4 hours each um really freaking crazy they wanted to recontour all of reality the 10-day week was just like the Communist it was to get rid of religious belief it was so nobody would be able to know which day the seventh day is so nobody really easily be able to go to church uh they had a whole complete transformation you were going to believe what the Jacobin as the state said you were going to believe you're going to believe in this in China under the pr PRC really you're going to believe what the CCP tells you you're going to believe and you're not going to believe anything else and if you do you had really better keep it to yourself in all regards um and then the American experiment was like no believe what you want try what you want see what you see do what you want with your things and we're going to protect you and if you don't like how we're protecting you come yell at us yeah I always like the part in the when Ma made a speech about the people's Democratic dictatorship and then he talks about um all the people that are not the people yeah like you know the people who are like the people get the Democratic dictatorship but the dictatorship part is you know the rtists the counterrevolutionaries the capitalist running dogs these are not people that's right that's the that's on the correct handling of the contradictions among the people which he gave in February of 1957 if anybody wants to read that stunning document it's actually it's very like uh ancient Pagan like the Romans there was like you were a Roman citizen or you were a non-p Persona yeah that's basically it um and as you mentioned that speech that's what literally ma says in there he doesn't just say he does literally say that there's the people and then there's the enemies of the people the non-p people but he also says explicitly in there that to have the a wrong political orientation direct quote from this particular translation to have a wrong political orientation is like not having a soul interesting that he uses that language so so uh why haven't any of the communist countries uh successfully eliminated the counterrevolutionaries uh and formed their Utopia on Earth where there's no need of this uh powerful State well um one they're not actually that nobody can completely squash the human Spirit as it turns out I mean you can see some pretty awful experiments that the Communists did the pesty experiment in Romania is by far the most brutal I think that's ever taken place to try to beat people out of their Christian and Jewish religious belief and it just horrible stuff but it didn't actually work they couldn't do it um people would die before they would give up some of their core beliefs and then there's kind of more practical reasons I mean people document with under Mao that basically people were not starving during Mao's time and power to the degree that self-interest in free enterprise were allowed to find ways through the cracks uh but there's another reason which is that their model is wrong their model is actually incorrect as a matter of fact their model almost invariably doesn't just miss allocate goods and services but it also uh and labor but it also puts into Power people that actually don't know how to run things what it puts in power are people who know how to play the political game and keep their power it does not put into Power people who know how to run things so that means things go wrong and when things go wrong people get desperate and they start doing other things so now they're counterrevolutionaries but the thing is that it's never actually going to work because it's an incorrect model for how to organize a society how to organize people how to motivate people and um it's like I said the political structure the incentive structure of the political game is to be obedient to to be obsequious to the existing political power hierarchy and to play nasty kind of two-faced games to rise within that structure now Charlie Munger who was Warren Buffett's investment partner till he died um has this quote that I find myself saying almost every day which is if you show me the incentives I'll show you the outcome the incentives in communist circumstance a communist country the incentives are never to do things right the incentives are always to kiss the party's ass so everything the part's wrong about that's what's incentivized to do it's always to rise within the party hierarchy like I said there's two mechanisms of doing that doing exactly what you're told and playing Two-Face power games that undermine the power power structure so that you can rise within it Ma was on top because ma was extremely good at that at playing people against each other than using it as an excuse to destroy potential Rivals so the whole thing is messed up the incentive structure is wrong the alignment with human nature is wrong their explanation for why it's not working is wrong and causes them to do purges and Destroy what happens when they destroy a bunch of these people that was just one piece of our almost 2hour long interview are you a curious person of course you are we're now putting full interviews only on our new China uncensored premium website un censored.tv your subscription helps support the show and gives you access to tons of amazing content click the link below to check it out