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when did you first start editing your
stemming did you get to an age where
either consciously or subconsciously you
adopted stems that were less obvious but
also maybe less effective if you did
reduce or change your stemming as you
got older did that change coincide with
a drop in your mental health I've spoken
about it before but I think I must have
been really young when I first started
suppressing the urge to stem until I was
3 years old I was at home with my mom my
stemming was always see as Quirky and
creative and unique and everybody in my
life knew about it and nobody minded it
everyone would let me flap away even if
that meant I would be kind of lost in my
own world sometimes and I wouldn't
always respond when spoken to when I
started going to nursery for a few days
it was quite a big shock to me I had
this overwhelming feeling of just not
knowing what I was supposed to do and
not knowing how everyone else around me
seemed to know exactly what to do we
were told quite sternly that we needed
to cross cross our legs when we were
sitting on the carpet and I didn't know
how to cross my legs I would find a spot
at the back of the group and I would sit
with my legs stretched out in front of
me and my little heart would be beating
and I'd just be hoping that somebody
wouldn't call me out on the fact that I
wasn't sitting correctly cuz I just had
no idea how does one cross their legs
and how did everybody else know how to
do it and as you might guess I wasn't
particularly good at socializing with
the other children I've been fine with
my cousins who came around to play a lot
the oneon-one or like small group
interactions with people who knew me
really well were fine but this big group
of strangers running around screaming
was something else entirely I remember
this one time when they were playing
with one of those parachute things where
all the children stand around and and
they lift it up and they roll balls
around on top of it and they crawl
underneath it and all that stuff and I
remember just walking around on my own I
would just walk around the perimeter of
the playground and I assume I flapped my
hands because I was lost in my own world
and usually when I was lost in my own
world like that I was flapping my hands
and I felt like I was watching the
children and the staff members who were
playing from behind a sheet of glass
everyone just left me to it I suppose at
3 years old I was young enough to be
allowed to do things that were a little
bit strange maybe it was just seen as me
being happy and kind of in a daydream or
something which it basically was
stimming takes me out of myself it makes
me feel warm and floaty it helped me to
think of ideas and when I was at that
Nursery it helped me to vividly imagine
that I was some somewhere else that
image of my lonely stemming on the
sidelines is kind of sad and I do wonder
why on Earth the staff members didn't
notice me I never remember anybody
asking me if I was okay or even
attempting to try and get me to
integrate more with the group or to help
me to interact with anybody at any point
but worse than being ignored and left to
it would have been to be told to stop
stemming to be wrenched out of that safe
world and be forced to hold that
parachute at some point between the age
of 3 and seven I stopped stemming in
public like that I probably became
conscious that the people around me
weren't doing it I also had moments like
this one time that I've spoken about
before where I was reading a book it was
supposed to be quiet reading time and my
friend was like you've been doing this
and she did an imitation of me and
apparently had been lifting the book and
flapping the book and had also been
standing off my chair a little bit that
was quite surprising to me because in my
head I'd just been completely immersed
in the story and I could picture the
book being flat on the desk I had no
idea I had been doing that but I knew it
was something that I did so she wasn't
lying at that point I must have already
been making a conscious effort to not
flap my hands to not stem in front of
other people because that felt like a
failure like I I'd slipped up somehow
and I had this horrible sinking dread so
these immersive big full body movements
that I used to do as a child and the
Hand flapping fell away instead I would
write words sometimes subtly in the air
by my side if I was feeling particularly
anxious and I'd flick my fingers
underneath my cardigan sleeve I probably
did other things that people found weird
because that was a very popular
adjective used to describe me by other
children but I was trying my best not to
do those things and this whole trying my
best thing did coincide with a shift in
my well-being I felt heavy and tired all
the time as a child for as long as I can
remember I've had a kind of sense of
Doom Weighing on me which now I know to
be a symtom of anxiety I had thoughts
that seemed like completely
inappropriate for somebody that young of
like what am I doing here and what is
the point as I got older I would act out
more at home when I was told to do
things like go to bed on time in order
to attempt which it didn't really work
out but attempt to stop myself from
appearing weird I think I held myself
very still at school when I think of
school it always felt like being in a
straight jacket it was the beginning of
me masking by being aware of every
single movement and I had this horrible
constant awareness of my hands and over
time I started to reduce my stemming at
home too even though that was my safe
place place and even though nobody would
have judged me but I started to stick to
more kind of socially acceptable stems
like dancing I moved from hand flapping
to flapping objects I don't know if that
was because it seemed more social or if
I just decided I preferred that I never
stopped doing that I've always done that
through my whole life and I still do it
but I started doing it just when nobody
was in the room going into a different
room to do it the older I got the more
embarrassed and kind of irritated I'd
get if somebody caught me in general I
just wasn't a happy young person and it
doesn't seem to just be me apparently
70% of autistic children have at least
one mental health condition which is
pretty horrible to read and 40% have two
or more it's just horrible I mean it's
supposed to be rainbows and unicorns
it's supposed to be the best time of
your life everybody says they always
want to go back I certainly can't relate
to that so in trying to answer the
question of why why are we so mentally
ill as children I stumbled upon this
article from September the article
stated that autistic children may start
to experience mental health difficulties
such as anxiety between the ages of 6
and 11 which definitely reflects my own
experience so I was very intrigued the
article was based on a study also
published in 2023 this study followed 75
children from the ages 2 to three to
adolescence as is pretty standard for a
lot of autism research only 15 of the
people involved in the study out of 75
were born female the study found that
changes in both social difficulties and
also restrictive repetitive Behavior
which is kind of the umbrella that
stemming falls under when you are
diagnosing autism seem to be directly
linked to changes in mental health
difficulties particularly anxiety but
not in the way they'd expected and in a
way that really suggests that attitudes
that a lot of experts hold about autism
are really dangerous and based on a lot
of terrible research and projects from
the 20th century that we really kind of
need to move on from the researchers had
correctly hypothesized that increase in
social communication issues would lead
to more mental health and behavior
challenges which I think makes sense I
know I and I'm sure a lot of people
watching this video unfortunately have
experienced what it's like to be
ostracized by your peers the thing that
the researchers were completely off
about was the link between restrictive
and repetitive behaviors rrb including
stemming and mental health the
hypothesis they put forward was that
basically any increase in autism
symptoms as they worded it the severity
of the autism symptoms of a child would
also be linked to an increase in mental
health difficulties and behavior
challenges and they also thought the
opposite would be true as well any
decrease in the severity of autism
symptoms in how autistic somebody
appeared would lead to a decrease in
mental health difficulties and that
child would be more mentally well the
more neurotypical they seemed the less
mental health issues they'd have but
would you assume that a child who
stemmed more would be more likely to be
mentally ill you might be able to think
of times when you felt more anxious and
more overwhelmed by your environment and
therefore you've stemmed more so I
suppose the researchers are kind of
assuming that stemming and other
restrictive repetitive behaviors which
includes things like kind of lining up
toys and also special interests as well
they're assuming they're a symptom of
distress a sign of an autistic person
who is not coping a sign of an autistic
person whose autism is more severe which
is obviously language that a lot of
autistic people don't like that was
their hypothesis but what did they
actually find they found that their
restrictive and repetitive Behavior
decreasing severity group had elevated
and increasing levels of anxiety 94% of
the children who decreased their
restrictive repetitive Behavior met the
criteria for an anxiety disorder and
even the children who just stayed stable
they had the same amount of restrictive
repetitive Behavior as they grew up had
higher amounts of anxiety according to
their parents' reports then the group of
children who increased their amount of
stemming as they got older so basically
the more restrictive and repetitive
behaviors a child showed as they got
older the less likely they were to be
diagnosed with an anxiety disorder it
was the exact opposite of what they
thought would happen in the discussion
the authors talk about how some previous
Studies have found that restrictive
repetitive behaviors are linked to
higher levels of anxiety but then they
kind of pose the question of well what
comes first are people stemming more
because they're more anxious or are
people anxious because they're stemming
more which might sound like a bit of a
weird question to ask for an autistic
person I don't feel like many of us feel
like our staming causes us more anxiety
I suppose when you're looking at all
restrictive and repetitive behaviors you
can end up sometimes with anxiety around
your special interests but even if that
has been true for me in the past I would
never say that I'm a less anxious person
if I don't have access to my special
interests they do state that previous
research has linked restrictive and
repetitive Behavior to experiencing
positive emotions when I flapped my
hands as a child I felt this so warm and
floaty and euphoric it allowed me to
become completely immersed in what I was
doing and I'd step into these beautiful
deep flow states where I was completely
engrossed in whatever I was trying to
focus on when discussing their results
the authors say we found that a decrease
in rrb severity during middle childhood
was related to higher levels of anxiety
in late childhood this is contrary to
our prediction that decreases in autism
symptom severity would be associated
with having less mental health symptoms
however if rrb function is viewed as a
strategy for anxiety reduction then
elimination of this form of expression
could indeed lead to increased anxiety
this position has previously been
suggested in 2017 that if individuals
are unable to or choose not to perform
RB their absence can lead to heightened
anxiety levels increasingly we found
that children that increased in RB
severity had fewer mental health
challenges our fings suggest that
interventions focused on reducing rrb
severity should be implemented
cautiously I'd ventured to say that
intervention shouldn't focus on reducing
them at all unless those restrictive
repetitive behaviors are causing the
person harm and even in those cases it
should be about finding a replacement
not about just stopping them and leaving
the person with no coping mechanisms in
a chaotic World personally I can't
imagine any autistic person would be
better off if all of their what people
want to call restrictive and repetitive
behaviors were just erased or prohibited
but devastatingly that is exactly what
they used to do I've had the pleasure
that's the sarcastic pleasure of reading
about Lo his work recently he was one of
the early researchers involved in
developing applied Behavior Analysis ABA
therapy for autistic children this work
began in the mid 1960s which Autism
Speaks notes on the website as if this
adds some sort of credibility look we've
been doing this since the 60s it must be
a good thing right but in 1965 the
article scream slaps and love was
published in live magazine which
detailed how lest was using electric
shocks within his treatment in quotation
marks to discourage some behaviors and
it contains some pretty graphic images
as well so maybe we've been doing this
since the 1960s is not quite the flex
that Autism Speaks thinks it is oh no
what I've read of his work is absolutely
appalling and dystopian he conducted
what was essentially extremely intensive
autism conversion therapy for very young
children it would go in for years and
take up most of their day in a paper
from a little bit later on in 1973 he
lists self-stimulation and echolalia as
two inappropriate behaviors that he
managed to successfully decrease he
describes the children he worked with as
being replete with interfering
self-stimulatory Behavior when they
first arrived he felt that some of these
behaviors needed to be prevented because
they were causing harm to the child or
to other people but also because he felt
they interfered with the child's
attention and also because he could see
no purpose to them and this is a common
theme that comes up even in studies
today which we'll get on to in a minute
in order to discourage stemming staff
members would ignore ignore the children
if they stemmed they would maybe leave
the room and leave them on their own or
they would put them in an isolated room
on their own as kind of a punishment if
that didn't work they might use a slap
or a painful electric shock and then
behaviors that they thought were
positive that they wanted to encourage
they would use rewards and often these
rewards were food many people would
argue and they do argue in my comment
section that ABA therapy has changed a
lot since then and it's definitely a
topic that I want to explore more on
this channel how much has it changed but
if I was a parent of an autistic child
right now I would very wary of putting
them anywhere near ABA therapy
everything I've seen so far suggests
that the methods are definitely less
barbaric but also that they still
involve what the 1973 researchers called
symbolic approval and disapproval in
this 1973 paper or any of his other work
that I've had a look at there's never
any mention of the well-being of the
children and proving their well-being
doesn't seem to be a goal at all or even
really a consideration the best you
could say is it's about improving their
function in quotation marks table
manners being a thing that he seems to
like to go on about quite a lot so I'm
really glad we had a priority straight
back in the good old days take me back
to the 1970s where we don't have any of
these silly snowflakes that we have now
this is a lovely quote from the 1973
paper throughout there was an emphasis
on making the children look as normal as
possible rewarding him for normal
behavior and punishing his psychotic
behavior teaching him to please his
parents and us to be grateful for what
we would do for him to be afraid of us
when we were angry and pleased when we
were happy adults were in control in
short we attempted to teach these
children what parents of the middle
class Western World attempt to teach
theirs a few sentences later he goes on
to refer to these children as primitive
psychotic children and he outright
states that his hope at this stage was
that they would recover from autism he
speaks a lot about appropriate play and
wanting to encourage appropriate play
and I've seen this in more recent
studies as well he wanted to discourage
the use of toys within restrictive and
repetitive behaviors so if someone was
using the toy but not in the way he
thought that it should be played with
that would need to be punished and
corrected but then he also admits that
it's kind of difficult to tell the
difference between playing with
something and stemming with something
which is interesting I really wonder
what he would have made of my playing my
playing was almost exclusively me
flapping my hands or flapping objects I
would sometimes arrange my toys the way
I wanted them to be like say I was
playing with a doll's house I'd put the
Barbies in chairs or on the bed or
wherever I wanted them to be and then I
would flat my hands in front of the
doll's house I would flap a doll I liked
flapping doll's hair and I would play
out the scenes in my head if I was
playing on my own if I was playing with
other children I would try and do what
lowas calls appropriate play for sure
but my preferred way to play my default
was always to Flap an object and either
play a game that was completely
imaginary and the whole thing just was
in my head or involved laying out my
toys in a certain way and then imagining
things in my head I'm sure L us would
have canceled my fun straight up that
would have been the end of that sadly
quite frankly 50 years ago is too recent
for my liking but you may say like we've
moved on from that now okay let's not
dwell on that surely we don't ask
children to suppress their stemming and
other repetitive behaviors anymore but
no we we do there was a paper in 2017
aimed to identify evidence-based
behavioral interventions used to
decrease restrictive and repetitive
behavior in children with autism in this
paper stems are listed as a type of
impairment impairments included along
the Continuum of rrbs may include
stereotypical or repetitive motor
movements such as continuous jumping or
spinning repetitive use of objects
playing with only one toy for a
prolonged length of time shock horror
you can't play with the same toy why is
this pathologize I don't I don't get it
speech or speech sounds repeating the
same word or sound over a prolonged
length of time insistence on sameness
such as wanting to do things the same
way having difficulty with changes in
routine highly restricted interests only
talking about or playing with items
related to the same topic or theme with
little variants so special interests are
also pathologized which is nice thank
you I really appreciate it in this 2017
paper they suggest that restrictive
repetitive behaviors should be stopped
because they could cause significant
functional impairment such as causing an
individual to Stand Out by making them
look or act differently possibly leading
to Social stigmatization and social
isolation so basically because other
children might bully a child for
flapping their hands which is a
completely harmless thing to do and
potentially leads to an increase in
well-being for that child so it's a
positive thing to do but because other
people might bully and stigmatize you
for doing it you must be labeled
impaired and you must be fixed we don't
try to change the bullies Behavior we
don't call them impaired we don't tell
them they have social deficits as we do
with autistic children we don't
encourage neurotypical children to stim
more hey look guys it's fun like come
join us it's a good time no instead we
write a whole article about different
ways that we could cure them decreasing
RB to enable functional behaviors is is
Central to the occupational therapist
role with this population many
interventions identified as a factor for
this impairment are based on the
principles of Applied Behavior Analysis
ABA and in another quote that's earily
similar to low vas's Attitudes by
repeatedly performing the same seemingly
nonpurposeful behaviors these
individuals often do not have the
opportunity to learn more functional
behaviors and there was another study in
September this year which was really
horrifying to me it was called reduction
of restrictive repes Behavior by
environmental enrichment and it Compares
autistic children's stemming to the
behaviors observed in animals in
captivity in zoos and Aquariums and
Farms body rocking and swimming in
repetitive patterns are generally
considered signs of poor Animal Welfare
I don't know if anyone else finds the
comparison of autistic people to animals
in the year 2023 pretty alarming but I
certainly do we've decided that autistic
human stemming looks a bit like what
distressed zoit animals do so therefore
it must be the same thing and serve the
same purpose and this is why we so
desperately need autistic adults to be
involved in research in my opinion so
many of the studies that I've looked at
talk about stemming seeming purposeless
or allude to it being poorly understood
but autistic adults are right here and
we're like kind of happy to explain to
you how stemming feels and why we do it
from our perspective if you would give
us the chance in 2021 there was a lovely
paper in which autistic adults and also
alistic non-autistic adults were asked
about this stemming behaviors which is
great I'm happy to share the stemming
love with neurotypical people as well if
anything like they might be missing out
a bit this is an aside and interesting
note about the study is that they do
include self- diagnosed autistic people
in a separate category and then they
have officially diagnosed autistic
people the results are put the table up
on screen if you're feeling any impostor
syndrome the results are almost
completely identical between those two
groups some of the common themes that
came up with it stemming can be used for
self-regulation to express emotions
including positive emotions such as
excitement one of the shest ways you
could get me to Flap my hands as a town
was to put me in front of a cat or a dog
cuz it made me happy it made me excited
I don't think zoo animals are pacing
their cages or acting out because they
think the humans tapping on the glass
look really cute I don't I don't think
that's the reason maybe maybe we should
just stop abusing animals as well I
don't know they also identified stemming
as something that's soothing in a world
where sensory issues can cause negative
emotions there was a common theme of
artistic individuals suppressing stem to
be more socially acceptable and using
substitute stems that were less obvious
but these substitute stems were also
less effective which is definitely true
of my own life I started pinching the
skin on my neck as well somewhere in my
middle childhood I used to do it to my
mom when I was like drinking a bottle or
something I suppose I couldn't be
flapping my hands and drinking my bottle
at the same time so that was kind of a
substitute stem there then later on in
life I started doing it to myself when I
was at school particularly if I was
thinking hard about something or if I
was feeling anxious and overwhelmed it
was just a little little subtle thing
that I could do and it's led to the skin
on my neck being quite discolored I
think and I still do it today it is
certainly miles less effective it's like
mildly mildly comforting it is nowhere
near the same as the type of stemming I
used to do freely when I was a child the
study challenges the prevailing view
largely from studies in childhood that
stemming is a negative behavior thank
you we needed that we still need that
can you believe how desperately we still
need that in 2023 it's sad and it seems
like somewhere in middle child childhood
whether or not you actually do undergo
ABA therapy it's like you get a sort of
social ABA therapy you might receive
rejection if you st if you flap your
hands either from your peers or from
your teachers or from your parents and
you may be praised for doing things that
are seen as more normal appearing less
autistic we're receiving what LO has
called symbolic approval and disapproval
from the people around us from the world
and the society around us we learn that
it's safest not to be ourselves if we
want to avoid ostracism and then we hurt
our own mental health in the process my
son has a lovely little friend at school
who is autistic and they stem very
freely very obviously it looks really
sweet I love to see it it reminds me a
lot of myself the one day I went to sit
next to my son on the sofa and I notic
he was sat there flapping his hands and
I was confused because I waited to see
if he would be like me I wasn't
diagnosed at the time so I didn't know
what be like me meant but I was like is
he going to Flap his hands cuz it was
such a big thing that I did it as a
child he never did and he is very not
like me he's very much like my not
autistic partner they're like basically
clones of each other it's scary not in
terms of looks but in terms of
personality so it was weird it was weird
seeing it I was like oh he was said it's
because that's what his friend does so
he was imitating the autistic friend and
so I was like found a video I had on my
phone from when I was diagnosed I was
like oh I used to do that too when I was
small and I always am just really
enthusiastic about isn't it so sweet and
he refers to it as them dancing and
things like that and I've told him the
word stemming and I've said some people
do it it just makes makes him feel happy
it's just a nice thing to do I've
noticed you know occasionally he'll do a
little bit of rocking and like moving
his arms and stuff like that obviously
he's not doing it constantly he's not
autistic he doesn't feel the urge to do
that but he is supportive of his friend
doing it and he admires them and likes
them so he kind of wants to imitate them
and that's the thing like the imitation
if we can destigmatize this can work
both ways and even if a neurotypical
person doesn't want to stem just being
around people being themselves everybody
masks to some extent particularly in
situ ations like work and school where
you don't feel completely comfortable to
be yourself isn't it great if everybody
feels like they can be more themselves
if they're doing something that isn't
hurting anyone why why shouldn't you
just be allowed to do things you know to
make yourself happier maybe in the
future autistic children can grow up
without thinking that the only way they
can possibly Thrive is by trying to
learn how to be neurotypical for me that
was extremely damaging and I developed a
horrible internal voice and internal
monologue about how I was always failing
and falling short and why could couldn't
I just be like everybody else instead of
calling things that we don't understand
and we don't relate to impairments maybe
we can accept that being a happy
mentally well person might not look
exactly the same for everyone and that's
okay just because you don't get
something doesn't mean that it
automatically needs fixing you don't
need to be so fearful of difference why
are we still at this point in human
history so scared of difference if you
are Autistic or suspect you might be
Autistic or you have autistic children
the best advice I think is to let
yourself or let them be autistic there's
a page that I really like on the
national autistic Society about
preventing burnout maybe try stemming a
bit more you know you might want to
start when you're at home alone
privately try some bigger stems there
lots of things on Tik Tok and YouTube
where people showing stems that they
like to do if you remember what you did
in childhood and great if not try get
some fidgets try letting yourself be
autistic it can be tricky to even know
what that means when you spent your
whole life teaching yourself performing
your own ABA therapy on yourself to try
and get you to behave in a autistic way
it's there's a lot to undo and I think
it's just having patience with yourself
and realizing that it will take time the
world made so many of us shrink before
we were even old enough to realize what
we were doing there is still time to get
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