HAVAL H9 Taken APART! Unique Insights! Disassembly Continues!

What is HAVAL H9 made of, my friends? Welcome to part two of this translation of one and only Ilya from Klubnyi Servis who has disassembled HAVAL H9 and was telling us in the first half his early thoughts on this, just general thoughts about whether it's an off-road capable vehicle truly, the bits and pieces of how it looks from the inside and other very valuable information. In case you missed part one, my friend, I'll link it for you just somewhere there above myself, you know, just go and check out the part one, don't miss out, okay? And today he's going to continue telling us about stock standard sound insulation, how they replace sound insulation, what's adequate, what's inadequate in his opinion, as well as the whole underbelly, transfer cases, suspension, everything else of this HAVAL H9, as well as his verdict. Don't leave without hearing his verdict on this vehicle at the end of this video. 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And this is also your chance to check the Auto Gear Reviews, sister channel of mine, of Value Cars Australia, where I go in depth into unboxing, installation and other things about these units. Check them out. Now on to the standard, stock standard, sound and thermal insulation. The main revelation here is that even China made vehicles, such as Haval H9, realized that the felt-based old school insulation materials are a horrible idea, especially for off-roaders that are a lot more likely to be exposed to moisture. Be it from leaking in somehow, flooding or even brought in by your wet feet in bad weather, not to mention snow. So it is basically strange because this exact felt-based insulation is still being used in much more praised brands such as Toyotas. As much as Ilya loves his Toyotas, he is basically saying, yep, all Toyotas basically smell like old socks, he says, which I know sounds a bit confronting and a bit unpleasant. But it is what it is. It's a fact of life. So here, Great Wall Motor has done it differently. He's showing us the floor insulation panels that are combining that plastic foam-like, I suppose, based lower layer with softer material that your feet would presumably rest on, which is rather cleverly put together and cleverly done. Certainly is not going to smell. Well, doesn't look like it will. This thing is interesting, though. This film is what Great Wall Motor places into the wheel arches. Ilya says that this material, this rubbery material, reminds him of China-made gum boots that he owned in 1984, which made me laugh and admire his memory levels, as I frankly don't remember exactly what did I wear back in those days in Russia. Finally, he shows these synthetic foamy blocks that Great Wall Motor clearly uses to fill out the hollow areas under the body panels, presumably expecting that process to reduce the amount of noise bouncing around and entering the cabin. It probably works to an extent, I imagine, but it does seem a bit crude and old school. Needless to say that that's where he becomes openly skeptical and basically shaming this ancient solution. Now, brief showcase of what's inevitable when we showcase a Klubnyi Service's work. Credit where it's due. They are promoting the right level of modern aftermarket sound and thermal insulation solutions. They are using these sticky pads from the brand called Aerocel, but I'm sure there are lots of similar ones all over the world. This one they use in Russia, and apparently they are very, very, very happy with it, and they are partnered with this brand as well. Full disclosure. Even without knowing particularly, or particularly caring for that matter, about the exact specifications of sound suppression thermal stuff of these materials, the way they apply these and talk about it makes me take their word for it and believe that the result is vastly, vastly better than whatever the stock standard solution would be. I always admire their handiwork. I do. Lining the interior of these cars with these sticky pads. Good on them. And of course, I'm somewhat jealous of the owner of this vehicle who is going to get a much, much more sturdy vehicle that is not going to sound like a tin can. Finally, let's take a look at the underbelly of the vehicle. This segment was coming, long time coming. Starting with the rear part where we see the spare tire bolted on under the boot area. Ilya says it's not just Haval or Chinese vehicles. Lots of other brands are using the same placement, which he thinks is dumb and insane, especially during off-road. And the chances, first of all, of scraping, damaging that spare tire are very, very high as you bounce around, not to mention rock hopping, as well as the difficulty of extracting this spare from underneath of your off-roader in tight and muddy spots when you really, truly need it. He, of course, shows us the vehicle frame here. Some of the previous generations of Haval H9 had exactly the same. And this design approach was, let's use a mild word, borrowed from classic Toyota Land Cruiser Prado design. Ilya demonstrates how rear suspension hangs together and it's attached to the frame where it's kind of raising no questions and appears to be fairly standard. That's good news. Coming from him, it always means good news. We see disc brakes, slightly deformed already, believe it or not, even though the car has been on the road for that long. But apparently, you see it pretty much straight away after heavy off-roading, straight away. I personally wouldn't know, but you could always chip in with your knowledge in the comments down below if you know what he's talking about. Ilya sounds a bit surprised that there are single piston support used in such a heavy vehicle. He would want something heavier and sturdier, he says. I'm reading between the lines here. Spring-based rear suspension attached to the frame on one end and axle bar on the other. Nothing super surprising. There is an electronically activated diff lock that is housed inside the main driving shaft somewhere there, smartly, because there is one wire leading to it, kind of proving Ilya's theory here. Fuel tank itself might be plastic, but it has a steel protective casing, which is great and necessary, absolutely necessary for an off-roader. But he, at the same time, wonders, Ilya, why there are these large holes? They are larger than they need to be in that casing. Potentially, that would let smaller stones or whatever else would get stuck in there and might potentially damage the fuel tank itself. Exhaust pipes are placed lower than the vehicle main frame bars, basically exposing those elements to whatever might hit them from underneath as well. That's him continuing to be picky, simply because the vehicle is positioned as a very heavy and capable off-roader. So why not protect those elements with the solid structural elements? That's not a great idea, basically, is what he says. There is only one frame bar there, the horizontal frame bar, that is lower than some more fragile elements. So basically, Ilya says that if you're hitting obstacles with that bar first, moving forward, sliding forward, lucky you. But if your descent angle is different, you might be less lucky. Thresholds are briefly mentioned and are cosmetic at best. They are obviously the convenience of life kind of feature, but not super solid. They can't be by definition, and the owner would do well to be careful when traversing heavy off-road tracks. From the main driving shaft, we are moving on here slowly to the transfer case, which Ilya thinks is made by BorgWarner. Good news again is that it's one of those time-proven designs and automotive part brands that are mechanically simple and have proven to be very reliable. Frontal driving shaft leads to the front axle, obviously. And above all that, we can see the transmission. Ilya thinks it's made by ZF, but he didn't sound very convinced to me. Frontal suspension starts with a massive, big, A-shaped lower lever. Turning hinges are very similar to how it is, again, done in Toyota Land Cruiser Prado. And further above, there is some other A-shaped lever that is not, this time around, made of heavy steel, but is made of some lighter alloy. Apparently, we will have to take Ilya's word for it, and he doesn't know exactly why they decided to separate it that way. No idea. There is a twin piston support system and disc brakes, nothing too surprising and as expected. Ilya points at some leak of what looks like oil coming from the area of that frontal driving shaft. He turns his camera and says, dear owner, if you're watching this, you should visit your service center for warranty inspection urgently, as their off-roading adventures have clearly had more profound consequences than just a crack in the plastic front bumper. All right, time to summarize, my friends. There is no dancing around the fact that when you look at anything and quality, et cetera, you have to keep the price of those goods in mind. There is just no going around it. You can't assess products in vacuum. You have to see how much did it cost you, because everything has a fair and not particularly fair price. So this Haval H9, at least currently in Russia, is incredibly expensive, very, very, very expensive, which raises the bar of quality expectations, naturally. There were a few unpleasant discoveries in construction of this vehicle, design of the vehicle, as pointed out throughout, especially what happened to the front bumper and stuff under it after a single minor hit during the very first off-roading adventure. The oil also leaking from the frontal driving shaft connected to the front axle at 2.5 thousand kilometers on the clock is not a great sign either. What's good? Well, it's a proper 4x4 constructed on a frame. They're using standard and rather simple engineering solutions, largely recognizable brands are supplying still important functional elements of H9, such as bog water transfer case and ZF transmission. That's good. Family orientation of this off-road is even mentioned briefly here by Ilya, thanks to three rows of seats and large interior space is obviously good. Makes this not just a very expensive off-roading toy, as one could argue, is Suzuki Jimny. Even Tank 300 could be seen as lacking that interior space. But this is truly something multi-purposeful. So Ilya goes back to the sentiment of that it's all very nice and good, but still quite expensive and one could do a lot better for the same amount of money, at least in his opinion. And that's all she wrote, my friends, or more accurately, that's all Ilya told us in Russian and I translated it for you in English. Did you enjoy it? Did you learn something new about Kaval H9? Has it changed your opinion about whether you would buy it or not buy it? Are you still a Chinese manufacturing cars fan or not? Maybe. Tell me all of that as long as you keep politics and toxicity out of my comments. I welcome everything, whether you agree, whether you disagree with me or with Ilya for that matter. Let's talk. That's where it gets fun. I hope you have enjoyed this anyway. Please like the video if you haven't already to help YouTube algorithm to promote it to more people so that more people come to our little campfire in the Australian wilderness. 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