In this episode of The Tai Lopez Show, Tai unpacks the power of environment in shaping your long-term success, drawing from a viral tweet about Warren Buffett’s wisdom: “When a good manager meets a bad business, the bad business wins.” Tai expands this into life and wealth—how the wrong city, country, or social circle can quietly sabotage even the most disciplined person. You’ll learn:
- Why willpower is finite and can’t outlast a toxic environment - How “flow maxing” can guide the cities you live in, the industries you choose, and the people you date - When to move into big cities to grow your wealth—and when to get out before ambition consumes you - The ancient “Lindy” principle for making better life choices - Why knowing your genetic limits is as important in business as it is in sports - The danger of never having an “enough” number, from Napoleon to modern billionaires - How to rotate between environments for money, happiness, and long-term health
If you’ve ever wondered where you should live to make the most money—and when to leave so you can actually enjoy it—this deep dive will change the way you think about your surroundings, your ambition, and your optimal stopping point.
Warren Buffett was right when he said,
"When a good manager meets a bad
business, the bad business wins." In the
same way, when a talented person meets
the wrong city, the wrong city wins. You
just can't power through everything. The
whole world now is even divided into
environments that are not only bad for
you accidentally, but they're engineered
to destroy you in the long run.
Sometimes when you retreat, you end up
winning more than if you continued to
fight. It's a weird rule. It's kind of
like chess. You sacrifice to win. You
know, Warren Buffett proved this.
Everyone said you couldn't become a top
investor unless you lived in New York
City. And he's like, "Ah, you know, I'm
leaving here. I'm doing good enough."
And he went to Omaha, Nebraska, and he
became bigger than pretty much any
investor in human history.
Here in my garage,
remember, you will never outperform your
environment. Change cities or countries
quicker. Welcome to the Tylo. I wanted
to go deeper on this. I tweeted this the
other day and it went super viral like
10 times more than normal and it's
something I've talked about on some
other episodes, but I wanted to
basically explain a little deeper with
more nuance and detail and I'll talk
about there's some other things I want
to talk about on today's episode. But
you know, first thing that I will tell
you is that Warren Buffett was right
when he said when a good manager meets a
bad business, the bad business wins.
meaning a great CEO will be defeated if
he tries to step into a horrible
business. So there's this thought in the
world that you know talent can solve
everything and if you're really skilled
and really self-disciplined and good
willpower and proficient in what you do
that all of a sudden you know the
environment doesn't matter anybody you
know Leaka the famous CE CEO or or you
know Steve Jobs or you know Tim Cook
they could step into any business and
turn it around and the answer is not
really right so in the same way when a
talented person meets the wrong city,
the wrong city wins. When a talented
person meets the wrong country, the
wrong country wins. You can't outperform
the environment in which you are in the
long term. So, just, you know, to be
clear, in the short term, I've seen
people overcome their environment, you
know, cuz willpower is somewhat finite.
One of my mentors is a guy, Professor
Balmeister from I think he's from Yale
or Stanford, I forget where he teaches
now, but you know, he wrote a book, the
kind of definitive work called
Willpower. And in that book, he talks
about some simple things to understand
like the reason people struggle with
midnight snacks is because your brain
runs out of glucose by the end of the
day. Since you have less energy, you
have less energy to put into willpower.
And so once again, a disciplined person
in the morning or even the afternoon can
withstand a bad environment where it's
filled with junk uh full of junky food.
But even the most skilled and
disciplined professional athlete, if
they know down in the kitchen's full of
all their favorite junk food, like in
the long run, slowly but surely, that
bad food environment will end up
winning. So, the best thing to do, throw
out I I have my maid sometimes anytime I
go into a new city, uh, new hotel, I'm
like, first thing you do, throw out
everything. Throw out everything out of
that little mini fridge that could tempt
me, you know? So, very important that
you not think and and I just see a lot
of entrepreneurs cuz entrepreneurs pride
themselves on having tremendous
willpower that they can just power
through everything. You just can't. It's
like and the the problem in the modern
world is that essentially profit there's
a profit motive to things that are
attractive in the short term but fatal
in the long term whether it's food junk
food you mean there's a great book on
this called salt sugar and fat by
Michael Moss which is just it's an
insane book on the science of food and
how these food scientists at these candy
and you know at these big general mills
and all these huge companies how they
engineer with taste tests. For example,
something like Oreos or Pringles, junk
food, like you don't get tired of them.
That's because they've on a chemical
basis altered it so that it bypasses
your satisfaction sati satiation
impulse. Like blueberries, you can't
overdose on blueberries because they
don't have the chemical compound that
bypasses the satiation part of your
taste. So eventually you get sick of
eating blueberries. But Oreos are not
like that. There used to be even that
one te that one commercial that would
say you can't just take one. I think it
was like a potato chip or whatever. And
that's because there's a science to
making humans eat more and more and
more. So that's that's just an example
where the whole world now is even
divided into environments that are not
only bad for you accidentally, but
they're engineered to destroy you in the
long run. In the short run though,
you'll spend more money with them. And I
think that there's a lot of cities like
that, too. There's a lot of countries,
you know. I think that there's a lot of
places I've lived that seem awesome in
the short term, but then once I'm there
for a while, I'm like, wait a second,
this is all glitter and glam. You know,
there's nothing to it. So, I think that,
for example, if you're broke and you're
listening to this, you should live in a
different city than if you're already
wealthy. If you're broke, you should do
a temporary jump start in a city. That
could be New York, Miami, London, Dubai,
like money-making hubs of the world,
right? I think that's logical. You go
there, you jumpst start your network,
you get around people that are high
ambition. And so, in the short term,
that environment can be good. But for
people who already have a lot of money,
I think it's deadly because being in
those hyper ambitious places tricks your
brain into thinking you should never
turn your ambition off. And is
interesting. I was looking back today
through emails from Dr. David Bus, one
of my mentors, and it's fascinating
email he sent me. It's like from 2 years
ago for some reason. I just saw it, you
know, today when I was searching. It was
an unread Gmail he had sent me. And he
was talking about like greed and how
much money we're on we're evolved to
make. And he said we evolved in
environments where you could get to the
top of the status hierarchy. Like most
of our we don't realize it's we're so
lost in history that we don't understand
if you go back even 100 years ago almost
everybody on earth had grown up in a
small town or a small village or a farm.
Traditionally, your last 10,000
generations of ancestors grew up in
villages of about 150 people. And so, a
man could get to the top and stop. He
could feel like he won. You know, you
become the mayor of the town or the
chief of the town and you're at the top
and you don't have to keep striving
anymore, right? But if you live in
Manhattan or Los Angeles, it's much
bigger than a teeny Tribe. And odds are,
no matter how much you make, you're not
even close to being number one in that
city. You could be number one in that
city in Manhattan and some you know and
Elon Musk moves in and all a sudden. So
we've been hijacked by environments
especially people who are already
financially successful environment is
tricking you into continuing to work
when really how we're built is to
achieve a net worth goal and then kind
of stop and retire and then you do other
things, right? You maintain but you also
mentor other people. You have your kids,
stuff like that. And so you can see this
ancestral mismatch is the technical
term. You can see this playing out in
the world now, right? There's an
ancestral mismatch. Men are making a ton
of money and then not settling down ever
because their mind is fooled by the
ancestral mismatch and just keeps going,
"Oh, it's not enough. I only have, you
know, 10 million or 1 million or 100
million and I got to make more." But at
some point, you have to realize that we
weren't built for that. And so you're
there going to be a lot of long-term
negative repercussions from continual
striving for men as especially for men.
Women compete on other status
hierarchies. Look, youthful looks.
That's why the cosmetic industry is 9
to1 dominated customers being female
versus men. Men don't really compete
along youthful looks. It's not the core
driver of male of males being
attractive, but women it is. males being
attractive is like where do they sit in
the status hierarchy the status like
like the old uh Pacino Scarface movie
you know where he was talking to his
friend he said Manolo and he said first
you get the money then you get the power
then you get the woman he was saying
that's how America operates what he was
really defining is like status hierarchy
and that's somewhat true for a man first
you get money then you get power I would
say first you you get money then you get
status then the status gives you power
and then men often use it to get the
woman. But the even if you look at the
movie Scarface, like he didn't know when
to say enough is enough. He should have
just stopped when he was a big enough
drug dealer to not totally attract the
government and and his competitors to
attack him, you know. So, um it's uh
yeah, anyway, very important um that we
go deep, you know, in our minds as men.
We go deep in our minds about why we do
what we do and when to stop. So if a
smart man meets the wrong environment
that's overly ambitious, he'll become
too ambitious and lose himself in the
neverending striving. You know, in the
neverending striving. So be very
careful, my friend. Be very careful. I
see people destroying themselves real
quick. Okay, next thing. So where are
the places? As I said, a general pattern
would be when you're not making enough,
move to big cities. When you are making
enough, leave them. That's a that's a
good mental framework. That's a good
mental framework. I I have seen too many
guys and even myself like you. We don't
understand. Nobody teaches this stuff. I
feel like I'm the only person on earth
unless you're reading scientific
literature, which most people aren't.
So, go deep into knowing what phase you
are in the money-making game. like are
you close to a reasonable amount of
wealth? Then start exiting the overly
ambitious places. You'll be fine. You
know, Warren Buffett proved this.
Everyone said you couldn't become a top
investor unless you lived in um you
know, New York City. And he's like, ah.
He lived a little bit in the big city.
And he said, you know, I'm leaving here.
I know how to make I'm doing good
enough. And he went to Omaha, Nebraska.
And he became the biggest of all bigger
bigger than pretty much any investor in
human history. So that's a good example
of he changed his environment. He didn't
want to be in that completely ruthless
New York City money mindset and he ended
up winning just as much. That's the good
news is is sometimes when you retreat
you end up winning more than if you had
continued to to fight. It's a it's a
weird rule. It's kind of like chess, you
know. Sometimes you you gambit or you
exchange a piece, you lose seemingly
lose, but you do it to win. you
sacrifice to win. So Buffett sacrificed
seemingly the better strategy of being
in a big city to pursue other things
which brings up another subject you know
as we talk about this exiting cities.
Um,
so or not necessarily for some of you
it's entering cities. Some of you are in
too small an environment. You're not
making any money. You're completely
broke. You you need to go to the big
city. There's a good book on this by
Steven Johnson called where good ideas
come from. And it's fascinating book and
it talks about there's an actual
mathematical equation and that
mathematical equation is all about um
the it's like a neural network you know
the more neural connections you have the
more creativity the more power the more
wealth building ideas come. So bigger
cities have this neural network there's
more people you bump shoulders in. And
it's kind of like that six degrees of
separation concept where you're only 6°
away from any person on Earth, right?
You're only six degrees. You could meet
the president of United States if a
friend of a friend of a friend of a
friend of a friend made an introduction.
Like that's the network, that neural
network. And you see more of that in
cities because you're just bumping into
people. So cities are for jumpstarting
your wealth. And then a lot of times you
slowly exit them. So, you know, where
should you exit to? I I think, you know,
there's this perpetual conflict for
humans. We have a sense of place, which
is the place you were born, place you
were raised. I spent a lot of my life in
San Diego, California when I was a
little kid and in Raleigh, North
Carolina. And and I when I go back to
that places, I do feel a sense of home.
And so, you always have that conflict
versus the logical non-emotional place
that makes the most sense to live. Now,
to be clear, the one good thing about
staying around where you grew up is you
have your best chance at your truest
friends, right? Your truest friends are
the people you usually knew from
childhood or teenage years. So, the the
only real advantage, but there's ways
around that. If you make enough money,
you can employ your friends and they can
move with you. You can fly your family
and stuff like that. So, I think humans
stratify into different personality
types. I think there's really high
serotonin driven humans. Serotonin is
kind of like a calming uh hormone. It's
like a settled down and happy content.
And I think there are people who just do
better staying where they were born. My
remedy for that or my happy, you know,
median is to keep more than one place
that I live and one of them being in a
place that I grew up with my old friends
and one of them in a place that I came
up with logically. Like Jeff Bezos did
this. Like he was not born in Seattle,
Washington where he lives now. He did a
logical like spreadsheet pros and cons
list of every city in America. He looked
at every factor like how many non-stop
flights there were and the tax benefits
of the state and whether he had
employees he could poach from his
competitors. And when he did all the
math, he came up with like, oh, I should
live in damn Seattle. And and it was a
good choice. He didn't grow up there.
And you know it's a tax-free state
Washington state and and he Microsoft
was there so he could coach a lot of
employees. So when you think about the
people who have done a lot they were
very purposeful in where they lived. As
I said you know if you have enough money
you can stay in your hometown where your
friends are and you can have one city
like that one place that's very
strategic. Now, I think and this brings
up a kind of a different subject. It's
what are you optimizing your life for?
And there's this new phrase, you see it
on Twitter, it's like maxing. So,
there's like looks maxing where you're
trying to a man's trying to make his
face as pretty as possible. They do all
this jaw stuff to get a strong jawline.
Then there's people who are happiness
maxing, right? There's a lot of people
who talk growing up, if you watch
movies, it's all about like love maxing.
Like the the point of life is love and
all you need in life like the Beatles
would sing, you know, all you need is
love. So they were love maxers, right?
That was free love. The 60s and '7s was
telling you the best thing to optimize
was around loving everybody. And then
you know at different times in history
there was like patriotic maxing like
World War I all these different
countries regions World War II they saw
themselves as the the center of the
universe and they maximized for their
national pride right that was
nationalistic whether it was Germany or
France or England or Russia in the world
wars they saw themselves as the you know
maximize for the nation and I've thought
a lot about this it's like what is the
one thing you should maximize for I I
mean I I think I've answered this
before. It's the good life, which is the
four subpillars, health, wealth, love,
happiness. But that's kind of a tricky
answer I give cuz it's really four
things. I I think if I was a bedding
man, okay, and I had to optimize only
for one thing, I think I'd optimize for
what I call flow maxing. So flow is
there's a famous book by Male Cheek sent
me high on my top 100 books everyone
should read. flow. He kind of defines it
as like do the things you do where time
flies and it feels like, you know, time
is gone and it's effortless. It's Albert
Einstein said, you know, when you're on
a date with a woman you find really
attractive, an hour seems like a minute.
And when you're on a date with someone
you aren't attracted to, like 1 hour
seems like one year. So he that's how he
explained at some point, you know, this
theory of relativity of time and space.
But what are the things you do that
don't feel like work? Like what is that
flow? You know, for me, sometimes when
I'm doing even a podcast or talking or
doing a live call, I feel like I'm in
flow, right? So where there's places
when I go to my farm, sometimes um I'll
feel I get that feeling of flow. Time
flies. You know, there's certain friends
of mine like my friend Hermon when we
when we hang out, it's like we could
talk for 6 hours and it just went by
effortlessly. So I I think one of the
things humans should do is is ask
yourself not necessarily what makes you
fall in love the most, what makes you
wealthiest, but optimize for flow.
Because a lot of the things you want in
life like health, wealth, love,
happiness, they actually naturally come
when you're flow maxing. When you're
maxing maximizing for the feeling of
flow and so for me now, like where do I
feel most in flow? I don't feel that
much for example in flow when I go to
Miami. I do for like 3 days or New York
I feel like out of flow. Southern
California a little better. San Diego
probably more feel like in flow. But I
also Scandinavia whenever I land in
Scandinavia I'm always like why do I
ever leave this place? I like that place
for various reasons. So everybody when
you're trying to figure out where you
should live the environment you you got
to go there. And you got to go, by the
way, for more more than once. Like, you
got to go for like a year. That's what I
recommend. Go for a year, right? So, you
go for a year. And I don't mean for a
whole year. I mean you go like four
times in one year to see the different
seasons to see how it overall vibes with
you, right? And I don't think you can
figure out where you like in one trip,
but usually over one year. Joel sin
farmer used to get tell me he used to
say Ty when you buy a new farm never
build a house for the first year wait
for all four seasons to go see where the
floods are see where the wind comes from
you know in the spring see where the
heat settles in the summer see in the
fall where the cool the frost goes see
where the snow banks see where it floods
and then build your house after a year
that's kind of how I feel like you try a
couple places you can logically think
through what those places might be like
Jeff Bezos did but really optimized for
flow. There's places I've been to like
Dubai reminds me of Manhattan. I don't
really feel in flow. Like time doesn't
fly. Sometimes it feels like it it gets
worse. Like I'm like, why am I here? I'm
counting down the days till I leave,
right? And like I said, some of that's
genetic. Some people have higher
dopamine. So anywhere they go after, you
know, 3 weeks, they want to go move. And
some people don't experience that. But
this flow optimization, flow maxing is
really something you can apply to
everything like books. You know, people
always think that I just read self-help,
self-development books, right? Cuz they
see me as a self-help guy, but really I
don't. I don't read them. When I'm
reading those books, I find myself being
like, "Oh, am I at the end of this book
yet?" Whereas I what I really like is
biographies and textbooks. Like I'm by
far the most in flow when I'm reading a
textbook or a biography. I just got this
new biography of it's called The Man Who
Invented TV. It's the story of there
used to be a TV show if you remember
called I Love Lucy with Lucille Ball and
this Cuban guy named Desi Ares. Anyway,
people don't realize like Desi Ares is
the guy who really made TV popular and
he made that show I Love Lucy even
though he played like the the secondary
main character, you know, the supporting
actor. And uh anyway, when I was read I
like I'm in flow when I read biographies
and so I know some people who love
self-help books and and I I you know
self-help books are not horrible. It's
not like I hate them, but I'm just not
in as much flow. So I like to best
chance of reading more and sticking to
it is going back to what I said at the
beginning is you got to understand the
environment. You have to switch like I
said, you know, switch cities, switch
countries. You also can switch the types
of books you read. You know, I think um
you got to ask yourself romantically
like who do you feel in flow with?
Sometimes men date women because they're
beautiful, but they don't really feel in
flow when they're with that woman,
right? you're just she's there. She's
like a trophy. She's pretty, but you
don't want to spend you don't want to be
there that much. You're like, you take
her somewhere, but then you don't want
to be alone and have a conversation. So,
like that's why I said if you optimize
for flow in the city you live in, the
country you live in, the books you read,
the person you date. I think it also
matters in the industry you try to make
money. I had a guy I was live. I've been
going live quite a bit. If you've been
following me, just doing a lot of Q&As's
and just sharing what's on my mind. And
I did one and guys said, "What do you
think about the sneaker resale business?
I have a friend who made a lot of money
with sneakers." And I told I told him I
told him I was like, "That's the wrong
way to think about it. There's money in
anything you can think of. There's money
in pillows. There's money in carpets.
There's money in supplements. There's
money in water bottles. There's money in
makeup. There's money in, you know,
shaving tech." Like so you would never
you should not pick how you make money
cuz you read an article that this guy
made a lot of money in that. You should
pick an industry to make money where you
feel the most in flow where time flies.
And you see that with the people who
made the most money. They they were in
industries that they could put in a lot
of hours because it didn't feel like
they were working. You know, didn't feel
like they were working. They enjoyed it.
They gified it, so to speak. So another
way to think about flow is like where
does it feel like you're winning the
game? Like it's a game. Humans are built
for games. If you study there's a
historical no author named historical
fiction named James Mitchner. He's one
of the most famous writers of historical
fiction and he writes about times where
there was no books. And he wrote a book
about the you know the Caribbean about
the Tyino Indians and the Arawak and all
these tribes that existed before there
was even written words. And those tribes
had had games. So games is pretty innate
to humans, right? If you and you see
apps that make a lot of money, you know,
I was looking at a Turkish app studio
that's making that's doing 38 million a
month. They've got like 10 apps in the
app store. They sell stuff, you know,
it's seven bucks a month. They've got I
don't know, they have one that's like
data cleaner or anonymous VPNs and all
this stuff. But the the the my takeaway
there, it's like when I look at all the
ways to make money, okay, if you enjoy
building software, which a lot of people
do, especially introverts, like there's
money in weird things you wouldn't think
make money. I saw this app that's called
Picture This where you take a picture
and it tells you what the tree is or
what the plant is. I heard they're doing
8 million a month. And so that's a kind
of business nowadays. You don't really
have to pick your industry based on how
much money you're going to make. I had a
guy, one of my executive assistants, I
asked him because he had been in college
for an engineer, like an electrical
engineer or something. And I said, "Why
did you do that?" And he goes, "Well, I
Googled the highest income professions
and you know, electrical engineer or
something came out at the highest." So I
picked I was like, "What a horrible way
to live your life." Like what if you
don't like engineering then you're
you've literally created hell on earth
for yourself. So if you that's why I
don't like the phrase do what you love
right love is different from flow.
There's things that can be like Kobe
Bryant used to say the best he would
feel in flow when he had a task to do
that was super hard utilized all of his
innate skills and practiced skills but
was accomplishable like wasn't
impossible. That's why a lot of men are
like I was talking to a dude private
client his goal is to have a minimum of
25 billion net worth and I was thinking
this guy doesn't understand the Kobe
Bryant rule. He's not going to be in
flow because your goals if they're hard
but unattainable will torture you
forever. I was like this is I mean
imagine you don't want to be a human who
would make a billion dollars and then be
sad cuz you had set a goal of 25
billion. So going back to you know doing
what you love. I don't like that phrase
because doing what you love, you can
fall out of love. But the things that
bring me flow, they still bring flow for
me now. I used to like to read books
when I'm a little kid. I still feel in
flow. I like talking and learning from
really genius people. Here I am decades
later from a little kid. I still like
learning from geniuses. So, and then I
have another friend, you know, he fills
in flow when he lives in the same house
in San Diego, married his high school
sweetheart, guys. feel like he fills in
flow in a more sedentary kind of high
serotonin way than me. So, it's
extremely important that you go deep
down the rabbit hole of, you know,
exploring the cities that bring you
flow, the the countries that bring you
flow, the time of the day. You know, a
lot of people bring up what time is the
best time to wake up. Well, for sure
there's sleep phenotypes and some people
and it's hardcoded in DNA that some
people are more night owls than others.
I mean, I don't think anybody should
stay up till 4:00 in the morning really
if you mess up your circadian rhythm
that much. But there are some people
that, you know, do really good going to
bed at 8:00 and there are some people
that do better going midnight. I think
within reason there's genetic phenotypes
on how and and by the way, when you
study history, that makes sense. Like in
the village, you wanted some dudes, you
wanted the village to be perpetually
have somebody on alert 24 hours so a
neighboring enemy tribe couldn't come in
and kill you. I just watched that movie
Apocalyptto. Amazing movie. Mel Gibson
movie. One of the better movies that
everyone forgot about. And I think it
was nominated for three Academy Awards.
But you know, the opening of the movie,
I won't give away the whole movie, but a
village that wasn't paying attention.
They had no guards at night was
attacked. And so the reason there's
sleep phenotypes, they theorize, is that
that way, you know, a night hour would
be up and then a super early riser would
would take their place at 3:00 or 4:00
in the morning. And so you got to really
focus in every area of your life. What
brings you flow? What time going to bed
brings you optimal flow where it feels
natural, effortless, but what time
waking up? You know, if you get in tune
with your body, you can feel those
differences. You know now there's one
disclaimer I'd give to all this. There
are people through trauma or bad
genetics who feel in flow with the wrong
dysfunctional person for example or the
wrong you know there's a you probably
have a friend whenever there's two
choices they're gonna their intuition
tells them to take the wrong one. You
can actually have pockets of your brain
have brain damage that one's around
judgment. Like I have a friend, it's
like if two women are in love with him,
he'll be like, "Oh, I really this is the
one that I feel attracted to." And it's
always like the worst personality one
that ends up bringing him long-term
pain. So there's also people who are
super attracted to, you know,
dysfunctional business partners,
dysfunctional employees. So the one
caveat is before you start flowmaxing by
your intuition, you got to look if you
have any traumatic responses to your to
your upbringing, your childhood that has
messed up your sense of judgment. That
for sure can happen. And now there's
these advanced tests you can take.
They're like five like5 or $10,000. You
go to like Beverly Hills and they'll
scan your brain. They can even see
there's people who have, you know,
having a bad sense of direction. We
always laugh at those people. That's
actually they can see it under like an
fMRI machine where you can see brain
like somebody got hit in the head. You
know how when little kids fall and hit
their head and we go oh they recover so
well. Not always. I mean they might live
but sometimes kids get permanent damage.
And so the one thing about flow that I
would like there's people I was watching
a like an Instagram video was like a
mosh pit whereas all these kind of I
don't know how to say it. not incel
guys, but kind of guys that are at the
periphery of society and they were all
moshing in a pit and like all wearing
black and everybody's like swinging
their arms and p and there's some people
who feel in flow when they like
listening to crazy heavy metal and like
punching, you know, jumping into mosh
pits. I would say those people in
general have some type of a mental
disorder that they might feel in flow
but it's not the correct accurate
response to the environment. So just you
got to know yourself. Everybody has some
PTSD problem from childhood, some major
trauma that threw off your sense of
flow. But that's for a whole another
conversation cuz now it gets more
complicated. It's like, okay, Tai,
should we trust being in flow or should
we be suspicious of what makes us in
flow? And I think you got to use like
prudence wisdom, you know, if you feel
in flow around a bunch of serial
killers, like this is somewhat
problematic, like why are you fascinated
by Jeffrey Dalmer? Now, I could give a
counterargument to my counterargument,
which would be, you know, men evolved to
be in gangs, tribes. So some of the
stuff that society considers
dysfunctional might be functional in
other environments. So these are pretty
complex questions and I'm I'm I want to
open up your mind for you to think
through them on your own. You know, the
point of this podcast and this show is
is to really like get you going down the
rabbit hole in your own mind of
self-actualization and self-awareness.
Like are you a person that can trust
your feeling of flow? Like I feel like
the feeling of flow I have when I'm on
my farm is not like a dysfunctional
feeling of flow. It's probably more
naturalistic actually. Now there's an
interesting approach you can do which is
called Lindy. L I N D Y. Lindy
essentially means when you don't know
what to do trust the oldest thing that
humans used to do. So if you don't know
if you should even get married and have
kids then the Lindy kind of framework
would be like well humans have
traditionally had kids. all your
ancestor had kids or you wouldn't be
here. So when in doubt, you know, have
kids. So that's kind of this Lindy axiom
or framework. And so you can do that
with cities like humans in general
haven't lived in cities for most of our
ancestors that had 30 million people,
but sometimes they lived in cities that
were 100,000 people. So you that's a
good it's not always true. Like humans
didn't always wash their hands. It's
definitely better to wash your hands.
So, it's not 100% but it's a good they
call them razors like Oak's razor like a
Lindy razor when you're not sure what to
do. So, I think you know reading or
learning is a pretty lindy compliant um
rule of life. Humans for the last 10,000
generations that learn things faster
than other humans definitely thrived and
survived. You know, that's why I said,
by the way, at the beginning of this
episode, you moving cities is a very
ancient thing because sometimes people
like, oh, people were just moving a lot
because of modern airplanes and the ease
with which we can move. That's not true
at all. Humans have been moving since,
you know, the bearing straight
migrations, since the African
migrations, the Middle Eastern
migrations, the Viking migrations.
Moving is actually extremely important.
Extremely important. So, I want you to
understand that, you know, a lot of the
things that I'm recommending now, humans
didn't read textbooks 10,000 years ago,
but they listen to the wisdom of their
elders, which is somewhat what a
textbook is, you know. So, moving
migrating cities to change your life, is
a pretty lindy adhering action to take.
Lots of people, I mean, nobody is really
from the place that they live. like 99%
of humans are migrants at some level.
Maybe, you know, not out of the
continent, but out of very few people,
if you went back 100 generations, do you
live in the same place? I I've I saw a
cool video of a guy in England who still
lives in the same village as like this
prehistoric I don't know how old DNA
they found something thousands of years
old. So there are times where humans
still live in the same environment where
their 100 generation grandfather lived,
but that's not necessarily the norm.
There was mass migrations. And by the
way, the people who didn't migrate went
extinct a lot. So sometimes migration is
actually the physical migration.
Changing cities and countries is
sometimes the only way to survive. If
you look in World War II, people who
didn't migrate out died, you know, in
all areas, not just Germany, not just to
Eastern Europe, but you see it in
France, you see it all over the place.
And so, you know, um, don't be afraid of
doing lindy things. Don't be afraid of
doing lindy things. That could be having
a kid. Don't be afraid of lendy things
like moving from where you grew up. Try
to take people with you if you can, but
don't be afraid of trying to make your
way in the world financially. That's a
lindy thing. Men did that. Vikings left
their villages in Norway and Iceland to
go find money. The Vikings basically
lived on poor farmland. The rich people,
the rich predecessors of the Vikings
stayed in Germany that had the fertile
farmland and they had a lot of not money
but the equivalent of money back then.
They had food, shelter, water that they
could trade and barter. The Vikings
didn't. So, the young Viking men are
like, "Yep, let's get in this plane.
Let's I mean, let's get in this boat.
Let's go to Newfoundland, Canada, or
let's go down the Danube River, or let's
go down the Vulga River." And they got
into the Ukraine and all these places.
So, that's a men going on a quest when
they're have no resources, aka money.
That's a pretty lindy thing that I don't
think is a I don't think that's a
dysfunctional response to the
environment. You know, I don't think
it's a dysfunctional I think it's
probably functional. It's probably the
right move. But I also think that
there's lindy examples, ancient examples
of people who could never say enough is
enough. A good example would be in
Napoleon and Bonapart. Like he should
have heard this podcast because you know
he could never say enough is enough. He
was the first trillionaire. He
controlled Western Europe, Southern
Europe. He even conquered Moscow at one
point for a second. And um you know
that's there were people just saying,
"Hey, you're a hero. Stop." But he
shouldn't have gone into Russia. That's
the classic mistake. You know, like the
Princess Bride movie, never have a land
war in Asia. Like never invade Russia
unless it's June or something, July, cuz
it gets too cold and you can't feed your
your your horses and your men. And so
anyway, a lot of people begged him to
stop doing that, but he, you know, and
he justified it. Remember, Napoleon
theoretically in his conscious mind, he
said he was doing this to bring
democracy around the world. He wasn't
necessarily he started out in kind of
almost a socialistic revolution. The
French Revolution was like down with the
royalty and all that. And yeah, but in
the long run, um, in the long run, he
didn't understand the principle of this
video that when an overly ambitious man
meets a harsh world, the harsh world
wins. No matter if you're Napoleon and
you have the largest army in the world
and and you know, the best men, the he
was the best at artillery. Eventually,
you lose, right? Eventually, you lose.
The English Empire. I'm reading a
Pulitzer Prizewinning book called The
British Are Comeing. I think that's the
name. It's fascinating book. You know,
it was the classic mistakes that the
English made when they were on top of
the world, right? They could never say
enough is enough with their colonies.
So, not only did they own, you know,
what we now call America, the United
States, but they kept going and they
dominated and they won battles in the
Caribbean. And then they, you know,
there was the 7-year war, the French and
Indian War where they fought in uh
Canada and they conquered a lot of
Canada. And so it was this neverending
ambition because the environment had
changed because essentially the British
had better boats and better seammanship.
And and so they basically had unsatiable
ambition. And that's what I was saying
at the very beginning of this is like a
man should have a maximum net worth goal
and a minimum. You shouldn't be
insatiable. People that are insatiable.
Occasionally you win. Like Genghask Khan
was pretty insatiable. But eventually he
got sick and then he died on his trip
back home. And if you look at, you know,
Alexander the Great, he was insatiable
and he kept going into India. And you
know, he just he went too far away out
of his skill set, out of his
environment. He beat the Persian Empire
and kept going, you know, if he and
that's why he died at 32. So Jordan
Belelfford, the the real guy behind the
Wolf of Wall Street, he once told me, he
said, "Ty, you know, he was making
hundreds of millions a month at one
point, and he's like, and this is in the
80s or whatever. Think how much money
that is in today's dollars." He said,
"Man, if I had just I could have made
half as much and it would have all been
legal, but he just had that unending
ambition." And that unending ambition
when you don't know when to stop, when
you don't just say know when to say, you
know what, I'm making enough. I'm making
100 million a month. That's pretty good.
when you say, "No, I should be making
200." And that, by the way, is one of
the bad things about living in the wrong
city. Cuz there's, remember, if you take
a city like London, people who move
there generally move there for financial
reasons, make more money, and then when
you surround yourself with people who
are all super ambitious, but maybe
they're in a different stage of their
wealth, then it's going to cue your
brain to not stop, right? And it just
gets into this never-ending game of not
stopping. And there there's a good
principle called optimal stopping. And
it if you look at there's the math, you
know, they used to call it the secretary
problem and stuff, but but ultimately
optimal stopping essentially means when
you're searching for something, you
don't want to stop searching too quick
and you don't want to stop searching too
late. If you graph it out, it's like a
curve, right? It's like the fishing
frontier curve like a you know and then
you but somewhere when you have for
example no net worth then you're in
trouble when you have no money but then
when you try to make more money and you
never stop all of a sudden you encounter
more aggressive competitors and that's
why they don't so the winner paradoxes
they don't talk about that in the news
like for example I was given an example
Napoleon Russia you know when he was not
quite as ambitious He hadn't made
everybody his enemy. At one point, the
Zar of Russia was the was the friend of
Napoleon, the ally. But if you become
insatiable with your ambition and money,
all the sudden the other really smart
dudes on the top of the food chain are
going to try to take you out. It could
be a lawsuit, could be a false
accusation. There's all kinds of ways
other wealthy men keep people from
competing with them. So, optimal
stopping also is strategic to not be
shot in the face. You know, the the
founder of Cash App, I think he became a
billionaire and then I just saw in the
news not too long ago, a year ago, he
got stabbed in the heart in at first
they thought it was a homeless person in
San Francisco, but I think it turned out
to be some other business guy. So
there's an example like where's the
optimal point on the efficient frontier
of trying to build your net worth
because at some point more money becomes
more problems and the marginal return
shrinks to almost nothing. You know what
was the point of Napoleon trying to
conquer Russia? You know, he wasn't
going to stop this. You know, he said he
wanted to bring democracy to the world.
You're not going to bring instant
democracy to a place as large as Russia
that's so big, you know, that and they
had surfs and all this kind of stuff.
Surfed them for 500 years. It was a lot
easier to conquer little Italy or
Austria or something like that. Then
Russia's basically the largest
geographical place. So you you got to
start thinking like this in these
efficient frontiers versus absolutes.
When I talk to guys about how much money
they want to make, they usually just
have like they I always know dudes are
lost because they'll have a round
number. Never say, "Oh, I want to be
worth a h 100red million." I'm like,
"Well, that means you haven't thought
about it very well. Why would why a
100red million?" Like what's what's that
means you haven't calculated? Cuz a
calculator rarely returns an exact
number. you should really optimize.
Okay, first off, optimize which part of
the world are you happy in? Okay, which
part of the world are you happiest in?
Let's say it's Latin America. Then you
can look at the statistics to be in the
top 1% of wealth in Brazil. You need to
have made you need a $400,000
net worth. That's all you got to figure
out how to make 400 grand in cash or
crypto and live in Brazil and you pretty
much should be able to assuming you have
can maintain a little bit of income
beyond that you should stay in the 1% of
Brazil for life and so will your
children. If you want to live in if you
want to be in the top 1% in Dubai, you
have to have 16 million liquid net worth
and the United States 6 million
depending on which city. It's higher in
some cities. If you want to be in the
top 1% of Beverly Hills, you probably
need 160 million. So, you know, once you
understand once you understand the
environment that you're okay living in,
because some people are like, "Hell
yeah, I'm good with living in Wenocitis,
Argentina or Brazil or Colombia." Then
you only need 400K. So then your
ambition, you know, can just be like,
"All right, I'm going to make 4 to
800,000 and then I'm going to go do the
other things that define humans." What
are the other things that define humans?
I mean having children, reproducing art,
science, other things that don't
necessarily you can't monetize. So you
don't necessarily retire but you reduce
time and you begin to spend it mentoring
other people, building allies, being a
passive investor and stuff versus a
active person. So that's why I said it's
very important to pick your city because
if you want to live in Dubai and raise
your family there and you're an
ambitious person, you're not going to
feel good till you're at least at 16
million. You know that which is a pain
in the ass. It's much harder to make 16
million than 400,000. Especially now in
the internet world, it's like anybody
can make 400 grand, you know, in a
couple years or less if they just pay
attention and have minimum skill set,
just a decent skill set. But not
everybody can make 16 million. You know
what I mean? And some people just don't
have the genes, the drive to be worth 16
million. There's a genetic component,
too, which is a whole another podcast. I
don't have time to I'll do that on
another episode. But I think there's
genetic limitations. I mean, look,
there's genetic limitations on sports.
Why wouldn't there be genetic
limitations on money making? there's
genetic limitations on, you know, um
things like basketball, things like
physics. Okay. So, but on the flip side,
we think there's no genetic side to
making money or or career, but there is.
Everything has constraints on this or
there's not one thing that doesn't have
constraints on this earth. Now, I do
agree a lot of people have limiting
beliefs, so they think they're more
constrained than they are. You know,
there's a lot of people, hell yeah, it's
like, you know, I'm stuck. I could only
make 80 grand. Like, a lot of those
people could make a mill. So, I I think
there are most of the world
underestimates
how much they could make. But there is a
subset of people who, you know, who and
more people who follow me that are some
of them more ambitious people are
definitely overestimating the
statistical odds that they can make
their number. When I see somebody like,
"Oh, I want to be worth 500 million
minimum." I'm like, I don't know. I've
gotten to know you. I don't think you I
don't think you're a $500 million guy.
Just like if you told me, "Oh, I'm 5'4
and I want to be a professional
basketball player." I'll be like, "Nah,
that's theoretically you could do it.
It's happened once or twice in history."
But it's bad odds. So, don't play that
poker hand. Play the best poker hand
that this world's dealt you. And some of
it's constrained by things at birth, the
genetic side. and other things are
constrained by, you know, the
environment. Your physical health is a
big one. If you want to be worth 500
million, you're going to have to have a
wacky energy level. You know, you're
going to compete around how much energy
you have, how much you can do before you
feel tired. And there's a that's a
physical constraint. So, everybody
listen, you have this journey you have
to go on, which is that's where I I
really am a fan of self-awareness. It's
like, who am I? let me not underestimate
myself and but also let me not
overestimate myself. You know, wouldn't
you say the same to your child that they
like, oh look, I'm gonna be a pro
volleyball player. You got a daughter
and she's 5'1. She's 160 cm. You're
like, ah, there's better games you can
play than that one that you have a
better chance of optimizing for success.
So, we it's funny how we we say that
when it comes to sports, but when it
comes to money, it's almost like, oh,
no, anybody can make money if that. No,
I mean anybody can make money. I think I
could take someone with below average IQ
and get them to a million dollar net
worth in their life, maybe more. But I
don't think I they could become a
billionaire. I don't think anybody could
do that. Just like I don't think
somebody who's 3'11 could ever play pro
basketball in the NBA, no matter what.
It's just you're competing with people
who have too much of a head start. So
know thyself, know the competition, know
your genetics, know your environmental
strengths, your environmental
weaknesses. Like for me, I can hang
around bars. I used to own clubs. I for
some reason have no addiction to
alcohol. So, you know, I'm somebody who
can be around an alcoholic environment.
It just it has like almost no chance of
affecting me. It still hasn't done. And
I own clubs for years. But so,
occasionally there's people that can
break the rules of needing to stay in a
perfect environment, but that's rare.
And I'm not like that in everything.
Like environment does affect me too.
That's why I have, you know, three
different homes. I'm happiest when I'm,
you know, on my farm. Got the best
social life when I'm in Scandinavia,
Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, and I
am I make the most money when I'm in a
US city. So, that's why I say you can
rotate, too. By the way, if you're like
a little confused and what do I do?
Well, rotate. It's pretty normal. I was
reading this one of the first
autobiographies of a Native American. I
forget what was it. Chief Blackhawk or
something. He wrote a book. This is back
I think he was born in the 1600s, but he
was around in the 1700s. And he had
reminiscence about his childhood. And he
they rotated in the spring. They were in
one part of I think they were in kind of
the Illinois region of the United
States. And but they rotated like it was
pretty happy life. So I don't think a
rotation so that you can get the best of
a big city or the best of a farm or the
best of a smaller part of the world. I
don't think there's anything wrong with
that. In fact, to me, the best thing
about the modern world is you literally
can travel larger distances. Now, that's
the one advantage. So, you could live in
a big city and you could live on a farm
and you could live in Europe or South
America or Asia. Do it on what I call
slow rotation. Don't move too fast
around or the jet lag will affect you.
But you know, like I said, this black
sheep blackhawk had this super slow
rotation that 6 month 5 months out of
the year they were in one part and then
they went when it got hot they went up
the top of the mountains, the highland,
followed the grass with the buffalo. So
you know humans, you can if you're
self-aware, you can think this game
through. I'll tell you that you can
think this game through on how to
structure your life so that you can stay
in flow so you can be in some big cities
where you make maximum money but you can
also be in some peaceful places too.
That's a good goal for net worth. Make
enough money that you could have two
different places you rotate between
slowly but surely can read your kids
will be smarter for it. They'll be
happier for like it's a ultimate
win-win. You know what I mean? It's a
true win-win. So, by the way, those of
you listening, if you're more advanced,
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