2025 MUSTANG GTD VS MERCEDES-AMG GT BLACK SERIES NURBURGRING LAPS! CORNER BY CORNER BREAKDOWN...

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Dec 29, 2024
Today we have a very interesting topic for all of you.
Now a lot of people online have been talking about the weather forecast from
Ford's test with the new Mustang GTD at the Nurburgring. So today I want to
respond to those comments and really go over
what could be happening with that lap time. I know we've made quite a few
videos regarding the lap time from Ford with the Mustang GTD but it
looks like everyone's really enjoying this type of content and I keep getting
asked for more. So let's dive deeper. I want to dig
deeper into this subject matter. Now we've learned quite a lot through our
analysis. Now in the last video where we analyzed lap times we kind of
put footage between a Porsche GT3 RS
side by side with the Ford Mustang GTD. Well what did we find? We found that the
Mustang GTD had incredible acceleration speed,
really besting that Porsche on the top end for straightaways.
The driver of the Ford was spending more time on the brakes based off
the data analytics or the feedback telemetry
on the overlaid video. And when you really
look at corner entry speed versus corner exit speed it looked like the Porsche was
able to carry more speed into corners, scrub off speed
faster, and then spend less time on the brakes. Those three elements are
absolutely critical to give you a fast lap time because
for those of you who don't know to go fast around the Nürburgring and really
any track you need to keep momentum. Momentum is
the name of the game when you're going fast. Yes you can have a ton of
horsepower and I've seen it before when I drove
many different types of cars on Big Willow or other tracks where there's
massive straightaways. You can be on throttle as early as possible and nail
it all the way till the end but then you can get onto the brakes
and go slow through the corners. Finally once your session is over you
get off track and go wow why am I going the same speed as a
guy with 500 horsepower? It doesn't make any sense.
The guy with 500 horsepower is going 20 miles per hour slower than you on
straightaways yet they tied you with lap time? It's because
the guy with the lower amount of horsepower actually kept more speed
throughout the corner so the entire track there was more momentum with their
car. So when it comes to putting down a fast lap time at the Nürburgring
you really need to have momentum. So I want to use this video to compare
the Mustang GTD to what we've seen with the
AMG Black Series. Based off comments we have received regarding that Porsche
GT3 RS comparison I realize that both platforms really aren't very equal.
One platform is used featuring the conventional layout of a Mustang where
you have a front engine but it's changed with a transaxle
similar to a C7 Corvette or a AMG Black Series right? AMG GT Black
Series. That AMG GT Black Series not only has
a similar design with a transaxle out back
but it also has a engine up front. So I want to use that framework for
this next analysis. Okay here we go I've got both the
AMG GT Black Series alongside the Ford Mustang GTD here in the Nürburgring. If
you want to watch the full original videos from both brands
please look in the description down below you'll find the original source
content. Major shout out to both Mercedes-Benz
and Ford for going out to the Nürburgring to show us
what these cars can do. So we're just going to use this
as just going over my reactions to seeing both these vehicles side by side
being driven. I want to point out some good
educational bits that we can interpret from
based off the lap time given from Ford and Mercedes.
So let's hit play and let me pause in a few different sections
to really explain to you what is going on here.
Both cars are in the main straightaway and they both get up to
160 kilometers an hour but it looks like the
AMG is actually going even faster 169 kilometers an hour. I think it's because
the Mercedes-Benz driver was able to carry more speed in the previous corner
therefore getting on power earlier and maintaining that momentum
all the way to the threshold braking zone. I do
think the Mustang should be able to get to a higher speed on straightaways
given how much horsepower it has. It's got over 800 horsepower.
Anyways let's hit play and see how they both enter
the first corner. So they're coming in really hot
really hot. It looks like both of them are equaling the same
speed at right about this point but I believe that the
AMG is dipping even lower. Yeah look at that
81 kilometers an hour versus 87. Now the AMG is at 77 kilometers an hour.
I think based off this trajectory the AMG should be able to get on power
sooner than the Ford Mustang but let's hit play and see what happens.
So it looks like yep already the AMG is 10
kilometers an hour faster so that means that the AMG was able to
get on exit power faster from the corner
and carry more momentum out of the corner onto the main straightaway.
So I think so far if you look at both cars
the Mustang needs to do a little bit better with carrying momentum into a
corner but nailing the exit speed so you can
get on power as early as possible because with both cars horsepower numbers
and both of them having similar drivetrain layouts
I think the Mustang should be able to equal the AMG.
But let's hit play. Both of them are going really fast down the hill.
The Mercedes-Benz is at 190 kilometers an hour already while the Mustang is
trying to catch up. Alright so they're going down the hill
very very fast. The AMG is carrying more mid-corner speed by a few kilometers an
hour but the AMG is slightly getting ahead.
I want to pause it right here. The Ford was being driven on a damp track
at least that's what Ford is telling us. It looks like the track is damp. Look at
how reflective and hazy the road surface is but
look below the AMG's road surface looks even
more hazy. It actually looks a bit more damp.
Look at these little hazy spots that get more and more reflective
as they go through each frame. Isn't that crazy to see?
It almost looks like there's actual puddles being built up
with the AMG lap in the corners right before the curving starts.
It's really fascinating to see. I know that Ford was really telling us
how damp the track was and I think that did affect the lap time
but I think it's safe to assume based off this footage
the AMG road surface looks very similar doesn't it?
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you. Let's hit play and it looks like right
now the Mercedes-Benz is still keeping that little bit of a gap
but it's just maintaining momentum a bit better than the Mustang
already going through the S's and exiting onto the next straightaway.
Mustang is still there, it's tagging along, it's trying really hard but
the AMG is slowly just making a fraction of a second gap on these
straightaways and just getting away. Let's back check a little bit more. Look
at the road surface right there. Why is it more reflective and hazy in
some spots versus other ones? To me, based off driving on a wet track
that looks just like what I've dealt with over the years.
It seems like the track surface is definitely not the ideal heat
that you would experience with a dry tarmac.
This might be holding back the AMG too, I don't know.
But the AMG still is maintaining more of a speed margin
and it's still getting away a little bit by a little bit
I just wanted to show you guys that quick side-by-side by 54 seconds.
You can see here the AMG is pretty much out of the line of sight of the
Mustang and I'd expect this gap to continue
elsewhere throughout the track. The reason I show this is because I want to
point out where the Ford team can improve because they have the eagerness,
they want to improve, they want to get faster and I think that's
really awesome. This is our first attempt at this.
These other German brands are very close to the Nürburgring and they have
a lot of flexibility when it comes to going to the track out here so I have a
lot of respect for both Mercedes and Ford. I think the Mustang has a lot more
in it. Do you think it can beat the AMG though
looking at the momentum that the AMG can carry throughout these corners?
Let us know your thoughts in the comment section down below.
Also if they can nail corner exit speed a little bit better
with a better road condition it would really make
a massive difference because just a little bit faster here and there on
a 12 mile track will change everything. I hope you enjoyed
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