Building a Tech Company as a Woman in Kenya | Sophie, Founder of Ophicore Digital

We have a rental management system that we have developed. Yeah. These rental management systems help Oops. rental owners and agencies to manage the properties and you know there are a lot of people who can easily reverse an MPSA transaction, they tell you they have paid and they haven't paid, maybe you aren't in the country At the end of the road, the old man is waiting. Yeah, so That was a problem that really is now You can say that this is a problem. even when you go to the landlords They tell you we have this problem. Now we build that solution as well. Thank you. doing doing doing doing doing You. Masehi, welcome very much, very much, very much for Seller's Reflection. I'm sorry, I don't understand. Happy new month. We're in the month of March. Happy new month. Atuwa metoka midterm. Yes. And we're back for Seller's Reflection. Thank you so much. So much for your comments. Final episode. Many thanks. Muli engage. Thank you so much. And as I said, we're going to keep the Founder Series coming always. We will always have a founder every month. Those people were inspired by the vision board. We are living in poverty, we want to try to live in poverty. We want to try self-employment. We want to try just having a side hustle. So every month you're going to have at least one founder. Two points, three points, well, it's a win for us, okay? But today I have a founder Two are founders Women in tech Let me give you a short story. Every time on Instagram Excellent job, well done Like any small thing that I get to do As soon as I connect Bluetooth speaker on my phone I call myself a woman in tech. Today's match is the main event. Because now today we have the real Woman, the real lady in tech The real woman in tech on the studio. She's also aBackColor She's going to talk about that aspect. You know, many people around us are still struggling, especially those in your tech field. That's the same kind of mad rhythm that runs through those trailers, those tracks. Massive respect to those women in those fields. So today we have a guest. I'll let her introduce herself. Then... Answer two or three questions because we have already received them Saidi questions for Women in Tech. Welcome, Sophie. Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. I always watch you. and I wanted to say one day I want to be there. The day has arrived. Yeah, so... My name is Shebet Sophia. I am the founder of Ofiko Digital Technologies. It is a software and digital marketing company based in Juja, Kenya. What we do and what we aim to empower businesses in this modern era with innovative technology, digital solutions, and automation to enable them to achieve measurable results. So today I'm here at Celeste Reflections and I'm happy. Welcome very much. Welcome very much very much. Here we love guests. Here we love guests. We love people. We love kindness. And learning, just learning from different worlds. What is it called? Official Digital Technologies. So it's purely digital? Yeah, digital solutions. What we do is provide services in both software and and digital marketing aspects. So in software. We offer AI solutions, machine learning solutions, and IoT solutions. I will explain that later. I am tired. The price has just dropped. So when you say software, do you mean like you build it up? System Coding from now on. Coding from here. Therefore, the system is being corrupted. from the hand of no one On my own hand. Therefore, with software, from here from the roots of the soil. From the soil's roots. Yes, by hand steps during soil drying from the roots of the soil. From the hand from here from the hand from social media management. We offer graphic design, we offer digital marketing, SEO, yes. So, Sophie, let's start first of all with your career. After high school, what do you want to be? tech women in tech no no no ama is it something that late because now everyone is embracing technology, but back in the day, yeah, back In the day, I wanted to be a doctor, so doctor yeah from a doctor to a from a doctor to now my story is quite interesting because when I finished high school; I didn't manage to get into medicine. So I got into journalism. So I'm a journalist by training. I'm in my final year right now. I'm actually in my final semester. As a journalist? Yeah, as a journalist But when I was in my second year, I needed to, I got the conviction to build something for myself. I've always wanted to be in tech. I don't know, I just had that inspiration, that drive to build something. And then, when I was in my second year, I started taking short courses. I took a short course in the Ajira Digital program. I don't know if you're aware of that program. program I took a digital marketing and e-commerce course. That's where I started taking on small gigs now on digital marketing, graphic design for businesses So I want to understand technology; I assume technology is very broad. Yeah, technology is very broad. What side are you on with tech? So let me break it down into four parts that people can understand. The first one is the software. That's the logic now. The brain, the code, everything. That's where systems are built today through coding and programming. And now we have the infrastructure. Those are the hardware. The devices. Is the first one there? the software the software and then we had the infrastructure, which is mostly the foundation of yes yes you you see something like a phone might be something that has been programmed like a tracker that's That's the hardware part, okay, okay, yeah, Alafu, there it is. In the end, in the end, as a journalist, as a visual creative. In the end, in the end, as a visual creative. Finally, the god of technology and the god of waiting. Hello, it's been a long time. In the end, the God of technology and the God of waiting. How do I ensure that the user The worker, upon completion, received what was due to him. That's what you're saying. That's where I'm sitting right now as a non-technical founder. That's where you're saying you even Help manage social media for clients. Yeah, social media platforms. And one thing I can say about Ofico Digital That is, we are developing solutions to address a problem. We never build a solution just for the sake of it. Why We identify the problem before we develop a solution. Now we start talking to the user, understanding what they are struggling with. Yes. This business owner may be struggling with inventory. Now we build the solution to help mitigate the problem. So mostly, let me see if I'm understanding it clearly You must mostly secure this client who wants to be helped with a certain thing So, as you've said, inventory So you develop that software for them I don't understand things that are existing No, we build that software for them because The one who is a thief of the night is caught The city is located in the middle of the desert. At the second glance, at the very moment of seeing, anything like that Maybe Hoo Mama I don't know who you mean. Operational Okay. Now from where, well, from where I sit, This idea, yangu Sophie, we feel like women in tech, I don't know, kama it's still the thing out there, But tuna feeling ni kama, it's a very tough industry for women. Yeah. Is that true? Noja, I've just met you today. Tell me, is that really the case? Do we really have that? I know things are changing, yeah, things. are changing so I cannot say it's a challenging area right now compared to before because Right now, there are so many women who have entered the tech field. either by maybe being the one who is coding or maybe even as just a founder like me, a technical founder so an untactical technical founder is a person who Husbands is entirely focused on the business aspect of a tech startup. or tech company This person also deals with human interaction and human interface. rather than the coding part because when you lean tech the only thing that people think it's just coding coding for sure So as a technical founder, that's where I am. It's not as hard as it used to be. And yes, there are challenges to being a woman in tech, you know. It's still a male-dominated field. a male-dominated area, and sometimes you walk into rooms, maybe you're pitching a solution and you just feel that I don't know, it's an inferiority complex. or something you just feel you're not yourself Have you ever felt intimidated? Yeah, yeah, I have. how many years now, actually, how many years now has It's been, yes, it has been three years. This is our third year in operation. I started. Back in 2023, that's when the idea was born. Do you still feel intimidated? Yeah, sometimes, because Let me tell you about these rooms. when, where, where meetings are held, you know, in tech, most of the Well, I can say most of the meetings that we attend to are sometimes to get uh investors because our products are most of our products you have to really get a huge amount of money and then When you go into these rooms, you're pitching your the solution you're trying to get someone to invest in, and these people Tumea. Step. That person is a real fool. On my way to the market. Therefore, I told him about you, and I love you. Lakini Nivyo itakuwa, kama anasema For doing so On the roof where it was located Mfadzi. All the other feelings you have there, that I'm not enough or these are male-dominated, That doesn't matter because you are becoming a change within that society. Yeah, sometimes it's hard, but you get in. Yeah, you pull through. Has journalism Has Amazon's involvement in any way affected your tech business? Yeah, a lot. I'm a journalist; it's part of who I am, so when I I'm in tech, and the journalism part helps me in understanding the audience because in journalism we are told that the audience is them, the most an important person, so when building these solutions, I ensure that we don't just build solutions for the Sake and sure, but first I understand the audience's needs—what they need. Who are they? How is this? What? How will this solution bring change to their lives? So I can say in that way, journalism has really helped me become more focused on audience needs and solutions that address this issue rather than building solutions for the sake of it, because most tech companies, They just come up with solutions. you see a new product on the market but To Is it really necessary to ask such questions in public? Why, being this way is harmful to business God is the cause of all things. Tomorrow, the child will do it this way. Yes. I will not let him deceive me. That's how it is, whether you like it or not. When it comes from us to give Mkata was a god. I can't do it. When children do something, here are the flowers for them, and therefore If I'm here, here, here, then you should know what to do Because of that. That's why I'm here, from the beginning This is the most important thing to do. 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Yes. activities as the car owner and then using that data to alert you when there is something different from the data they are accustomed to. so for example, you're going to, maybe you're going to work from Monday to Friday They monitor the data, they study the data from Monday. Which data is it—the kilometers, yes, and fuel consumption? Yeah, the kilometers, even the location because we are using geolocation also it tracks your location, so you're Going from maybe Riru to Kilimani, yeah, every day Monday to Friday. then maybe on Saturday you're going to Church, maybe you're an SBA member. then maybe on Sunday you don't go anywhere, so in a case where If your car leaves that geolocation, it will alert you. If that's the case, it will alert you through calls. or SMS, so if your car is in danger or maybe even You're the one driving this car outside. Even with your geolocation, you will still get that. Notification so it helps me identify the risk of theft, yes because sometimes uh Because a car is a very large asset So protect that asset Protect it very well I can say I love that. You can say customer So at the end of the week Ama at the end of the month Every day you get your data I cannot provide a meaningful translation for the given text as it appears to be a mix of Swahili and non-standard or corrupted language, making it unintelligible. Please provide a clear and correctly written input for accurate translation. We are not ashamed, we are not afraid, we are not weak. Waa, that's... There, they will find a place to stay. Here is the place to arrive and depart from the boats. We must not rely on others to reach the next level or receive anything from them. Therefore, it is no different from coming from a kia. That's what AI is for. To arrive at the place of the tree. Hey, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, many. There's a lot of theft, ya know. So that one will really, really help. I'd love to hear about your experience so far. Is there something, On this one, you're creating, you're creating the AI-powered tracker. Is there something you've done before that has been successful? Delegate. Ah, or whether it is done. I know nothing. We understand. At that point. You are The system is turned on and turned off. Our people are suffering. Yeah. To be afraid and to be afraid kusa futa to fall and to stumble It's a pity that it happened this way. Just like you, maybe you have a rental unit of 50, or maybe 100. You don't have to use the manual records of books, Writing at Sophia Room 2 has paid 10,000 this month. And then, you know, that using the manual record tends to introduce more errors, You'll lose a lot, especially when dealing with money. So, this system is giving you one in... If you eat this here Therefore, I was with my mother's relatives I am eating my own food Well done! In fact, it's an application. Therefore, I have been with you without doing Therefore, the man of the mountain, a man among You will also, when someone pays, They pay you, and then it will be reflected. They will pay you, and then it will be reflected in the system. So you'll be seeing maybe Sophia's Room 2 has a deficit of approximately 10,000 Kenyan shillings. And then you'll be able to send them reminders. And it will automatically send an invoice at the end of the month. It will automatically send an invoice at the end of the month. You don't have to go knocking on every door. You don't have to go knocking on every door. In fact, right now, as you are speaking In fact, right now as you are speaking, I'm imagining those apartments that have 100 homes. I'm imagining those apartments that have 100 homes. Izo gated communities with 200 houses Izo has gated communities with 200 houses. You know, I thought they were writing in a book. You know, I thought they were writing in a book For the sake of clarity. So that's a It has been a really great system. Because what I'm seeing is What I've said before is that We intend to solve this problem. I've been in those I live in rental apartments. So, In the morning, someone comes and knocks on your door, Pay now, union yeshe M-Pesa message, how much do I pay? You have to go through a lot of messages, unionyeshe tu. So, you pay, you use text, How do I enable automatic payment? Enter the system, because We integrate with the payment system So if you have a bill to pay We integrate He's coming, you know If there are landlords watching I think you should reach out to Sophia. The details of Sophia will be down here Is there any other successful project? Yeah, there are And this one is Uh, for a client, let me talk—I won't mention the client's details. but uh we built a finance Management system, this is for invoicing only in for invoicing the users of their platform and also let me talk about a platform For the rental listing, the other one was for rent. management system that is merely managing The property rental listing is now a system that we built for The great leader's assistant Hi, I'm here. in his/her possession Hi there, I'm ndi big wave the chief advocate as if it were not the case so when you need a plot 50 by 100 You enter the measurements, the location, the amount that you are willing to pay So it will fit within your budget So if you want something for 50,000, for 10,000 To see life in the details, you need We can be in the position of being able to see the ordinary. The house is too small to accommodate the two of us. It's hard to see, it's hard to see. In all explanations? Kwamba kwamba kwamba You can see the slide clearly. About and seeing the truth What's wrong? Are you okay? Well, you've been in the business for three years, but perhaps your toughest experience so far. I wanted to say the hardest year, but well, the toughest season in your business Hey, the toughest season was when we were just beginning. because we weren't even sponsored. I can see that we didn't have any angel investor. or any kind of investor, for that matter. So I was financing together with my co-founder I have a co-founder; his name is Joseph Gidinji. He is a software developer. So together with him we had to finance the business out of the pocket Because it was not yet generating enough revenue to be self-sustaining. That was tough because I'm still juggling other things. Yes So you're still doing journalism, you're still doing other things. Mom, the other things are journalism. No, the other things are being a student, just living an everyday life as a student And also just being a girl And you want to be a girl What can I say? Now I'm glad you mentioned you have a co-founder. What can you say is the toughest experience for women in tech? Of course you've said about the men Who is in the meeting rooms, those who are Approving, uh, what is it when you're pitching, you meet the men? Yeah, but what's the harsh reality for a woman in tech? The harsh reality of a woman in tech, I can say is um just you know there there's a I'll go back, perhaps, to that point as well. There is a notion, I don't know if it's a notion or something That was just wired into us as women when we were growing up, mostly African women, you know, there are things that you don't You cannot; there are things you must not venture into. Perhaps there are things you cannot do as a woman. In tech now, you know you're going against the way society is, or maybe the norm here, so That proves to be one of the challenges. because you are going to meet a lot of obstacles when you are doing these things you are going into rooms that you're not expected to be familiar with but Challenges exist in every field. Are there women in every field as well? Don't feel that you are a woman you cannot Do this, I am a woman, I cannot, as you said earlier that you're comparing women in tech to those women who are operating large machines, yeah, because You can do anything as a woman, really. when you walk into those rooms You make your proposal, ama you offer your solution, yeah and all of them are left like God for that God? Like a tennis ball hitting the wall. How does it feel? It feels so fulfilling at first. Extremely fulfilling because First, I know I'm building something for myself. Second, I am being the change in society. There are many things I can contribute to in this society, And that is what I'm doing; I believe I'm doing it right now. So when you have possibly provided that solution And they're like ticks—you feel so nice. And you've said they are men this big. Not big in size, but yes. So you feel so fulfilled, And you also feel that you're empowering other people. Because we were late, Yeah Because they are children, they are gods. We were at a gathering, waiting for our cups to be filled, As if the one who is suffering from the pain of the thorns is truly a judge. Therefore, surely here we can truly celebrate our victory. Because of the heavy rains Represent me, my representative. That's right. Here, I truly want your representative As if here, just like this, for a moment. Therefore. You cannot say that it is a male-dominated field. because maybe you're a woman You also have the strength to do what they can do. Yeah. So I love that you've mentioned you want to inspire that young girl. or that baby who is looking who wants to be a In tech, who wants to be a woman in tech? but akuzileza wehu Analyze the child's behavior, the son of the mother, does so maybe to that young girl I want to sign in as Sophia This big dream of mine But maybe in the society of the ignorant, now you, we are fools. And you know they start when they're very young, sasa si we ni gal. And that's it—it's very much something that has truly made us As Africans, I cannot say we have been successful in that way. Because you remember as a child, when anything that was being taught To you, it becomes the way you envision things will be. The way things are in the world. And it's not like that. Therefore, magic and being caught. Thus, it means to make a big deal out of nothing. This is a mistake. Goodbye. If this is it. These are the ones that are being sent for inspection. For the purpose of use. Therefore, let's begin. As for the livestock that we had, Up to Sophie, like, I want to see those women in tech, I really want to see them. maybe just a word of encouragement because I just, yeah Many people do stems Therefore. so as a young girl out there or even a young man, because now I believe in empowering all of us together, so as a young person out there who is aspiring to get into tech and to be End of the line for tech at the end of the line to complete the end of the African crisis. Nuko hand kama In my heart, there is a desire to spread my own kind of fame. station Regarding technology. The wood is from the tree, make sure. Those who have not yet received the vaccine from the network can yetu people, those who come from the depths, from knowing in silence and ending Therefore, tech is on my own people's behalf. the one who is left behind in the midst of the journey on foot To those of mine who are with me. Yuwa How much do you want, and that fire that burns within you? Be that person, keep that fire, and go forth, go forth We'll be here to support you and help you. And to mentor you, yeah, can you, can you tell, can you tell? Can you say where you've gotten? It's become easier right now, yeah, no, and yeah, good, okay. No, and yes, I was, I was for the no, yeah, why do they know? and why, yes, it has not become easier because Bilo ni mlema, piw�� is dafadheirosi. He doesn't know where he is. in the process of appointing the new bishop, Pia Otrowa Kuru. K, listen to me, I'm telling you something. was boosted to reach You are welcome. I am going to Campala now I am storing it here. But it's not an easy journey. In every stage you're going through, perhaps even in education, in every stage that you're going through, the further you go, the harder it becomes because now you're... A person who is dependent may be dependent on yourself. There are also things that come with that. There are finances. Economic matters. Yeah Actually, I know you've mentioned finances, but perhaps to that founder who's starting a tech, a tech, maybe company, ama who's now venturing In tech, the one simple thing you can tell them not to do is ignore user feedback. Because I know you initially said we were looking for sponsors, am a for well, people who are just willing to give you money, capital. So there's someone who wants to get started in this technology, In the digital space, am I. Therefore, Solution therefore, n So what? That took up our time, the money, The resources, which are also still somewhat strict. So we spent all that, the finances, the time, the expertise, everything. But now that the solution has been built, no one is willing to buy because... What is the problem? There is no problem. You didn't solve anything. You didn't solve anything. But you have spent it, you have lost the money, You have lost the energy, the Raider. What was that? What was that, that was nothing? I can't say it was nothing, but you know, when you are building something, You are expecting it to return, to have a return on investment. Yeah. Yeah, so, but it didn't, it, it, it, We are still trying now to restructure it into something different. So I can tell you maybe this It will somehow. It will, but now that's a mistake. That I think you shouldn't even start doing it. Don't say you'll do it and then now you don't I will correct it as you are doing it. Can I ask you, so how is your journey? Is it... I start with the consumer, yeah, what's your problem, yeah? then I start building and then start building not starting to build and then you take it to the consumer, I force you to have This problem I force you to have a problem with inventory and then I give you this product, no It doesn't work like that, so like the rental one Was it you? You saw there was a problem, yeah? I saw there was a problem even where I'm living right now. They haven't, I can say they haven't taken it. to your land, yeah, I have, I have really pitched my my solution to them, but they are still working on their plan So, but I can say the problem. what we saw and what I saw was the problem with manual inventory and manual tracking of records and you know there are a lot of people Who can easily reverse an ambassador? They tell you they have paid, and they have not paid. Perhaps you are not in the country. At the end of the month, the women go to the market. yeah Yeah, so that was a problem. That really now you can say this is a problem. Even when you go to the landlords, they tell you we have this problem. Now we develop that solution to help mitigate that problem. So never build a solution if you don't have A real problem in society. I don't know Kleber's money are in these solutions that you are building Money lies in solving these problems that people have. when you solve a problem It's no problem, and there's no problem, yeah, you stay. with the solution now you have wasted time But how are consumers embracing the technology? Ama we are still, because now, umesema, you are still trying with your landlord, and I'm thinking, maybe ni mze, He attacked the store, stole the phone, and ran away. So how are consumers in the tech sector? Yeah, it's tough, especially in the Kenyan context, Let me say, because... most of the time when you're when you're building a tech company, you're looking at companies like Google or Zoho, yeah, you know these big companies that really generate a lot of revenue Yeah, and you're saying, ah, Mimi ni kisha anza. I will get revenue, but not in Kenya. context the consumers are very, I can say they are rigid in terms of adoption Adoption of this solution But it's changing So I can't fault them much either. They have really tried. Because in the African context Or even in a Kenyan context Something that people really don't understand They don't take it They don't So it's a challenge even convincing someone that You might pay 50,000 or 100,000 just for a system. Or from where, the valley is low below as if from nowhere be Ngozi This is the way Even with a million, there are products we can't afford, even with half a million. and more. So telling someone that I will do this and this amount from from from this This one is like kuna This is as it is from for This is as it is from Why It's very hard to tell a Kenyan person to leave what they have. been doing and started adopting this with this amount of money. Yes. It's tough, but I've seen a lot of people starting to change a little bit now. I can see that the market is now a bit fairer than when we started or even before. So what I can say is that Let me talk about the invention of AI because now there is a solution. that when you are giving someone something that is AI-powered, They think you're taking away their jobs. or the jobs of other people disappear. You are replacing human labor. But AI is not replacing anything. The only thing that is happening is that these people Those who use AI are now replacing those who do not use AI. So as a person, even in your industry, in any industry, make sure that you are learning AI to help you become a better employee, if you are an employee, a better business owner, rather than ignoring this technological shift and later having someone else Who is now using AI to replace you in that market? Therefore, if we need it so, so, so, therefore, You will become irrelevant. and the market changes really fast I love what you've said So if you've said AI is not replacing anyone It is replacing the person who is refusing. to use AI Yeah, the person using AI will replace the person who does not wish to use it So we just embrace it. Just embrace it Make sure you are working with AI Working with AI in a manisha, You and AI are collaborating to become better people. Because it cannot function on its own. You must give it instructions. Yes, you must instruct it. So you're not saying that you let AI work for you? It won't work for you. Work with AI. So collaborate with AI to become a better version of yourself in your post. Yeah, so that's one thing that's really tough. Last example, last in Africa, and capture Because the end says That's why it's said to be a place for technology. Therefore Because it is said The end because System for location from For what reason The caretaker will not keep his job. And we'll say caretaker Anafutua Doing work But Akilani uses that thing Zasa was paid what he was being paid With less work Actually, he can even manage more apartments. With that in me It is necessary to do it I must go to Ruiru every day. Check the Ruirua market Look at Juja Look at Nairobi So that's one thing. And as you've said Ita fika tu mahali upate this change yeah like This change had to be there; it had to be so, the sooner the better. We accept the change and embrace it, yes, the better and let me say this historically all the technological shifts have proven to create more jobs than it destroys, so the longer you stay There is a job, oh job, there is a job that is being sought after. The more it will create more jobs Now there are jobs that come with a certain prestige. There are jobs that come with Orlando AI There are remote jobs, annotations There are a lot of things that we created. So it's personal for you to change Adapt with change, and you will always remain relevant. If you remain there even as a business owner, you will become relevant. If now, people are going, let me also talk about delivery, something like deliveries. If businesses are now carrying out home deliveries, On the west side, I want people to come to my shop. Hupu. At the store. As a consumer, I've already said so. I want sometimes, uh, to go back to the house. So, those people who have... Who do deliveries? I will buy from them. Therefore, using using. Yeah. To be found. Therefore, It's a matter of technology. It's not clear what you mean. Hello na location Mwishengu So, What did you do? This one, please Yeah. At the time of watching the sunset, If you are born, you are already a person. What we were using was. Where we were going was who was sky blue wanyo katika vya kosoja Keep in mind that you started. Yeah, you can. Yeah, so you can't say, Sixty-six, AI is scary, I don't want anything to do with AI. Goodbye. Our parents say, it's water, it's water, it's a river. No Hello, friend. I love that. I love that you even encouraged us to embrace AI. As much as tongue seems. I am not doing any work kumbi, please help me with the work We still want to keep those files and records. on that shelf bookkeeping ya makaratasi I mean, change is inevitable, guys. We need to embrace change. no matter how Thank you so much, Sophie. maybe just one final shot last words, ya Generally, just like in the tech space, the things you feel like, Even we tech people know this. But the things you feel like, Perhaps the people in your industry will fare better. Because now, you've talked about consumers, Clearly, we don't understand technology. We are tough, this is what makes us strong. Money on the phone is scary, we are afraid. But now in your industry, maybe the one, Call out to Watu wa Tech, the master of the craft. For those who know, there is also in this matter a certain difficulty in understanding and building this thing. It's different from the other, it's something unique. Well, Saki Kusama, but you start from the root all the way up. You did it. Then at the very end, the pale KWA user interface, Hello, user, you're welcome, user, you're friendly, I know. I asked him to take the努力 just below the surface, He is pale because of the user, but he has made it well. So I don't know, maybe that's a challenge on your part But maybe something just in the tech world In the tech world, one thing I really would want to say is that In terms of AI, AI is a major topic right now. And I love AI, I talk about AI, a champion for AI In AI, we have done a lot of talking as Africans and as Kenyans. We've had many boardroom discussions. We've done a lot of work. events, people coming from the west to teach us these things to encourage us to embrace So we've done a lot of talking. Now it's time to build. systems that can help our nation It can help our society. It's now time to build. systems for health systems for agriculture systems for businesses systems for every sector of society so I believe that as a society right now, I have worked with young people, and I am a young person myself. Young people are very intelligent. They have the capabilities to build these things. So even for the government, create that environment, business environment and creating an environment conducive for these people to thrive. Let us not... Why Indeed, However, Indeed, However, Yes. Why Why However, However, However, with However, Yes. Indeed. Why I know that with that, it won't be the same, it won't be the same. things will be moving even faster, more accurately especially in health, I know, I haven't built anything in health, Yes. but I think that if we truly come together, even as founders and as people in tech with this AI solution, We can build something that can help our society in terms of health. I love that. So when we arrive at the cars, When people arrive, we get AI that is truly ours. Yeah, Zaki, you too. Yeah. Because imagine something like in agriculture. You know agriculture in... In Kenya, it's like that. We have many problems, even in terms of the market. Where do we sell to? That's true. What do we plant? Yeah. So if we are using this design system here at the studio, They are planting something different from what we are. Yeah. So let us use this data we have and build something for Kenya. If you're in Africa, let's build something for Africa. Yeah. So using the homegrown, bringing locally developed solutions to address locally originated problems. Now is the time we call upon our consumers. Yeah. You as the person in the agriculture field, Bring your problems to Sofi Care. Ophiko. Ophiko, I'm sorry. Ophiko. Bring your problems to Ophiko. Then they will... Create a solution to address that, yes, one that fits your problem, okay. So come on him, say healthcare and you feel like maybe I've been looking for someone to do this and this and this Sophie's here, bring your problem. and perhaps your issue will assist other healthcare facilities Other healthcare hospitals, yes, thank you. So much, Sophie, thank you personally. I want Yeah, I thought I would. hear terminologies and hard tech terms but it was very easy Like I've learned something, and thank you so much for coming to our show next time when we call You may be wondering, now that we've advanced in technology Now you are at level 1 When we move forward, please don't say no. I will always be Ready to have a talk with you Thank you so much, guys, and thank you so much, guys, for watching. I hope that was an interesting episode. I hope you might learn kitu, and if you're in the tech space Please admit whether you are a woman or not. a man To On up There is what is burning. Vanya, there's that thing that's burning. Maybe you've wanted to create However, A platform where ladies can get pads Do you know what it is? You know what's going on, what people are talking about on the phone It's for quick fast donation with Please let that fire keep on burning And create that You know Thank you so much for watching Yes. Until next time I'm your host Celestine Dinda See you next week Goodbye Goodbye. God