How High Efficiency Systems Are Accomplishing Their Extremely High Ratings!

Hey guys, in today's show we're going to be talking about high efficiency systems. Basically how engineers are accomplishing such high SEER ratings, what an inverter really is, because some people are saying they're not inverters, they're converters, and to a degree they're right, and we'll talk about that and what that actually means. If you're an RV person, you understand what I'm talking about, and just get into it with the limited knowledge that I have. We'll talk about it, what the modules do. power modules do. We're going to get into it, talk about it, and discuss the high efficiency systems and what they're doing. Stay tuned. Hey guys, that one almost started over again, didn't it? You have to turn off the loop or it will start over. So my apologies. You know, some of this high tech stuff that I have to manage sometimes, you know, it gets the best of me. We are, today's show, I want to be talking about Basically, engineers trying to chase efficiency in motors. There's all kinds of ways to go after efficiency with refrigerant and stuff like that. But a lot of the times we have to slow down motors, compressor, condenser fan motor, blower motor. And there's some unique ways of going after efficiency when they do that. I mean, I've been around long enough to remember some of the old guys complaining about PSC motors and having to change capacitors on them because they were unreliable. And here we are now with ECM motors having to change modules or the whole motor now most of the time because they're unreliable. I will say some of my journey with the variable speed stuff came through starting in residential a long time ago and moving into light commercial. And in light commercial, my first. Experience with changing the speeds of motors, if y'all remember these, or if you work in commercial, the motor masters, and they accomplish that a couple different ways depending on the motor master, like on a condenser fan motor to control head pressure, either voltage or frequency, they would change it and not all motors would handle that very well, if y'all remember these. And then I got into a little more. I don't know heavier commercial and then we started seeing VFDs or variable frequency drives on blower motors and basically what we would have is a three-phase blower motor and a variable frequency drive which in its name basically varies the frequency. Instead of 60 hertz it might raise it or lower it, it just it's basically it varies the frequency based on inputs given to it from another board somewhere else in the air conditioner. And so those were my first experiences with variable speed motors and it seems to me, especially with residential systems, that when it comes to the motors, the compressors, Let's just focus on the condenser right now. Well they're all tied together because it's basically the same technology. They've been chasing the efficiency of a three-phase system on a single phase system a 240 volt or 120 volt system and first they did that with the PSC motors which is a permanent split capacitor. They wound the motor a little bit more like a three-phase and used a run capacitor and that gives it a little more torque it gives it that torque that only that you can only get on three-phase system they were trying to get that with single phase and it helped the capacitors also help the motors run more efficiently like some people have noted if you pull the capacitor wire off while it's running the amp draw goes up and the motor slows down so the though that really like in the 70s and whatnot was the first leap into um Motor efficiency and then NASA actually played a role in developing the DC motors because they needed hand tools that didn't create any kind of spark. And when the DC motors started coming out, they they're all basically controlled with some kind of board or module or something like that from the very beginning, even your little drills and the impacts that you carry in your bag, they're controlled. with a board or something that tells it what speed to go and whatnot and um they didn't those didn't really take off until i don't know late 80s when well the the permanent magnets came out like in the 80s and they've just been getting better and better and better as the years go on and the better the permanent magnets get the better the the dc motors get um i don't know I don't know a ton about it. I'm just trying to. show you the evolution of these motors and the motors the dc motors have found their way or what i'm calling a dc motor is like on the electronically commutated motor like i said they've been chasing the efficiency of three-phase systems or motors in single phase for a long time and um So what they have done with these ECM motors and I'm talking about the inverter driven systems and yes maybe it's not an inverter it could be a converter but they have taken basically a three-phase motor even the ECM blower motors the constant torques or the variable speeds they have a three-phase basically a DC three-phase motor which sounds crazy because it's three-phase and it's DC So let me explain what the modules do on the back of those motors. They take single phase input, they rectify it, which means it goes to DC instead of alternating current and goes to direct current, and then they modulate that direct current and make a variable DC Current. Now, when I say DC, I just mean the voltage never goes below zero. If it did go below zero, it would be alternating current, but it still goes up and down and it varies in height and it looks more like, instead of a sine wave, it looks more like a heartbeat of somebody that's on crystal meth or something. It looks crazy if you actually get to look at one of those graphs. So that's what they're doing. They're cleaning up the AC signal, rectifying it into DC, and then using that DC signal to create the variable three-phase DC signal to control the motor. And they are altering the frequency, the voltage. They can completely control it. Now So that's basically like on the ECM motor. That's what the module is doing. And if you think about it on these high dollar inverter systems, that's what all these expensive boards are basically doing. Now, when I said some people call it a converter, well, that's because a converter converts AC current to DC and an inverter converts DC current to AC. So, if you think about it, if it's running on a DC motor, it sounds like we're just going from AC to DC, which would make our inverters actually converters. Well, that's kind of right. So, what these boards are doing, they use these things like these donuts, if you've seen some of these in other devices, to help clean up the voltage, convert it to DC in these rectifiers, And then they take this clean DC signal and they use it to make a three-phase DC signal that goes up and down. It varies in frequency and voltage to control what is a three-phase motor. So we're getting the torque, we're getting the speed control of a variable frequency drive. It's complete control of the motor. So that's what we've been doing with all these high-tech systems is giving Giving them the ability to slow down and speed up and sometimes go even faster than they were going before to give us the efficiency of being able to run at really low amps sometimes and then we can crank up to high amps if we need to. Okay I hope I didn't lose you when I was talking about converters that is some of that is some of the knowledge that comes from working and playing around in RVs. Yes. Okay. This may be coming from somebody who has some commercial experience. It's a cheap VFD that you can't program. I would hope that they're not cheap. Basically, it's a VFD is what it is that's taking, we're talking about the power modules and the boards on inverter residential systems. They're taking inputs from indoors if it's communicating or your Y1 and Y2 and whatnot. And your pressures and sensors and all in the condensers taking all those inputs and deciding how fast to drive the compressor and the condenser fan motor. So no, we cannot program these not specifically. I have not seen one that I can actually tell it that I want it to go a little fast. Well, to a degree, there are some that we can turn from like two tons to three tons. But other than that, there's not really any. Programming, not that I have seen. Al Anonymous, cheap in comparison to ABB. Those must be VFDs that maybe you can get on the market. I'm not, excuse me, VFDs you can get on the market. I'm not really sure about those. And there are other ways that we can pursue efficiency, but most of the time slowing down motors, most of the time we can slow down motors to help achieve the efficiency that we need. And a lot of it can be done by that. An ECM programmer. Now, Rescue, I do know, has ECM rescue motors that can be 120 volt or 240 volt, but all of those are like constant torque with just speed taps that I know about. Now, there might be something else out there. There needs to be aftermarket motors for some of these, and I'll be honest, some of the inverter stuff. With an inverter type board in the air handler there is no aftermarket for that because the board basically is the module. It would take a almost a new air handler to replace it with an aftermarket motor on some of those. Let me see, I'm trying to go through the comments here. So yeah with the inverter systems that I've been in I've been installing lately I really like the efficiency especially the ones that I've recently been doing. I like them. When I check amp draws on those things, it's just really low. I have an inverter system on my house, but it's not my preferred name brand. And like was mentioned just a little while ago, they do seem to be very sensitive to electrical problems. So make sure you put surge protectors on these inverters. And, um, Maybe a voltage monitor would be a good idea because high voltage can burn some of these boards. Just be very careful with these things. You've got to have at least that surge protector. Well, thank you, Don. I appreciate that. I do enjoy doing the videos and doing the work. I hope to have some more for you tomorrow. Tomorrow's Tomorrow's going to be a little bit of a crazy day for me. So I'll try to have something for you. ECM motors are great for little cannonball motors, auto-salvage, reversible, automatic, loader. I'm not sure I'll follow all that on Cannonball motors. Let me see. The most common failure you see of the ECM X13 motor is the inrush limiting component. It looks like a black quarter. Do you replace them or do you try to get a new module or a new motor? Recently, I have not I've really been able to get new modules. In fact, with a certain name brand, my reman rude suppliers, I don't even check the motor anymore. If it's getting 240 volts and it's getting its 24 on an ECM motor, I don't even check the motor anymore because they won't sell me the module. Oh, I know what you're talking about when you say cannonball motors. Now that you mention this. Little Black Motors. Yes, the Little Black Motors. I didn't know they made ECM. Motors for, like in a walk-in cooler, the little black motors that go behind the fan, I assume that's what you're talking about. I have not done a ton of refrigeration. Forgive me on that. Yeah, the cannonball motors, that would be cool if you could reverse them like that. That would be really good because I have seen there have been times when I've gone to get a motor. And they only have one direction. I needed the other direction. So I'd have to buy a blade too. So you might see one blade turn in the opposite direction when you walk in that particular cooler. It works. Let me see. He's talking about the refrigeration motors, rescue motors for them. EC5414E. That is a good idea. Yeah, so I haven't done a lot of refrigeration. When I first got into HVAC, I worked for a company that did everything from little refrigerators to walk-in coolers to reach-in boxes to ice makers to commercial air conditioning. He tried to do everything, and I'm not sure he was very good at any of it, to tell you the truth. He tried to do everything, but then again, there was nobody else out there. Nobody. Out in the sticks. They would have to call somebody from a long way away. Thank you, Dawn. Wow, I'm going to highlight that in just a second. Do they make an inverter high-efficiency package unit for mobile homes? Currently have a carrier. I do believe they do. I haven't priced one out yet. I do know that my ACIQ dealer does sell Does sell package units. It'd be crazy for them not to have a high static one. Thank you, Don. I know you're a Bulldog fan. He says we have Will Champ this year to hold you guys back. Kirby Smart has. Man, you're already thinking about college football. To be honest, I grew up in South Carolina. So I grew up a South Carolina Gamecocks fan. And I've been living here in Georgia now for 30-something years. And I have become a Georgia fan. But, you know, there's a part of me that still wants to see South Carolina do well. It's hard to be a South Carolina fan, let's put it that way. I don't think they've ever won a national championship, ever. They've had a couple good seasons, but it's easier to be a Dawg fan, let's put it that way. Oh, yeah. It is. Oh, to answer the question about, we do, earlier, from K2Hat, ACIQ does sell a couple of package units. Specifically for when people ask for mobile homes, they are asking for something called high static. I do know that the new SEER ratings are rated for a higher static, so it would probably work fine. I have put regular Goodmans on mobile homes in what may be considered a high static situation, and they do fine. They have done fine. But thanks again, Don. That was really nice. You don't have to do that. So, yeah, the inverters, I think the very first inverter package units that I remember actually ever coming out were the Bosch ones. Other companies have been slowly producing those. I remember one time I had a customer requesting a Bosch, and this was years ago back when we were experiencing even more supply issues than we are now. And there was only one five ton Bosch in the whole country and he wanted me to buy it. And it was up there around Michigan or something and install it for him or he, he was going to buy it. And if there's only one of those, I was questioning how easy it would be to get parts for something like that. So I recommended that he not do that. Um, and besides there's my. My problem with the Bosch is, at least the ones that I have any experience with, is that they still need heat strips. I mean, there's nothing wrong with installing them for backup, but to install an inverter system nowadays that continues to have to have heat strips in our climate is ridiculous. Let's see. College football. Well, I think it didn't. Was it yesterday? Did Georgia have their spring game? I didn't tune into that. We're always wondering who our quarterback's going to be, college football. For other parts of the country, I know that pro football reigns supreme, especially maybe in the Northeast, but down here in South Georgia and some of the Deep South, it's college football. I mean, that is what everybody follows. I'm going to close. Um. Basically, our pro team here in Georgia, the Atlanta Falcons, what? I mean, we don't follow them. We follow the Georgia Bulldogs. And I'm sure in Atlanta they have some devoted fans, but not down here. Okay, so everybody had their spring game yesterday. I missed it. I might be able to find it on the tubes somewhere. I do look forward to college football. For me, that's one of my distractions that I allow myself to enjoy. Enjoy and... So, yeah, I do like college football. I know that's completely off-subject, it is. But I'll give you an example. Around here, like, the game is not necessarily the SEC championship in Atlanta at college football. It's the Iron Bowl. And I'm not – I like Auburn. I really do not like Alabama. But like one of the biggest games of the year in this area is the Iron Bowl. And sometimes it's like in North Alabama and sometimes it's really close by in Auburn. So that's just a huge game around here. It's kind of like the Masters in the Augusta area. It just dominates everything when it comes to this area of our world. But back to the high efficiency systems. I mean, that's really what I was going to talk about. And that's on. I just think that there's a culmination of technologies right now that are making the high efficiency systems fantastic, making them fantastic. Mini splits forever. As long as I can remember mini splits, they haven't needed heat strips. And that's because of a technology of hot gas injection. And it's not really hot gas injection. It's when you say hot gas. Okay, when a heat pump is running in heat and it's very cold outside, the suction coming back to the compressor is cold, cold, cold. So the gas that they inject into that suction is hot in comparison. It might be room temperature. We're talking 78, 80 degrees. But that increase in temperature on the suction, now how they get that, there's multiple different There are so many different ways of getting that hot gas without losing efficiency. But they, for example, some condensers run a line through the heat sink that is for the inverter power module. And they warm the gas up doing that. And it also helps cool off the module. And then they inject that gas into the suction line, which heats up the compressor and allows it to produce more heat. Instead of depending on just that cold suction coming back when it's below freezing outside, which makes it more efficient and able to produce close to 100 degree air, even when it's really cold outside. That's one technology. And then the next one are these inverter driven systems. And both of these technologies have been around for a long time. They're just coming together in these systems and making It's like the perfect combination, the hot gas injection and then inverter boards and compressors that work together to help produce the high heat and demand. It's just, to me, it's what I've wanted to see in condensers for a long, long time, a long time. In fact, the very first time I saw a single phase motor being modulated by like a motor master. I felt like well can't we do that with a compressor and a single phase PSC compressor you can to a certain degree. If I'm not mistaken I've never installed a soft start system on on this compressor but that is kind of what they're doing on the startup. Easing the start so it doesn't start so I have to go to 100% within less than a second. But we're able to achieve that with the inverter driven systems without endangering the compressor like soft starts might do on a single speed system. Yeah, the hot gas injection, when I first saw it, for example, I had one of my parts houses, it was Baker Distributing, was selling me on the Gryflex. I didn't know anything about it, so I installed the first one on my own house. And I took all the panels off of it and just looked at it to see how it worked. Okay, and there were... For example it has an electronic expansion valve outside but it requires a TXV on the inside and the electronic expansion valve outside was only there to provide more sub cooling to the liquid line. I know it sounds a little weird but if you're metering it seems like it would cause it to bubble or or start to vaporize but but it also that one that particular model It had a receiver on the liquid line, so when it was running in heat, the liquid line would come back and come into a receiver, which was a lot like an accumulator, and the liquid would pile up in the bottom, and they would basically suck the vapor off the top of it and use that for their hot gas injection on the true suction on the compressor. So it took me a while to figure all this out and that's how I figured out that's how they're producing high heat when it's really cold outside. Now they're achieving that high temperature vapor. Like I said it's probably not but like 80 degrees but the high temperature vapor or sometimes they're doing that by running vapor through a heat sink that is already on the power module or something. And to me, that's accomplishing two things at once. You're not losing any efficiency or even a hint of losing any efficiency. So, yeah, there are multiple ways of actually accomplishing that. It's similar to those train, what are they, XRs? They would cool off their power module with a copper line running through it. It's kind of similar to that, except we're using the heat produced for hot gas injection, which those training XRs never figured out how to do. We'll not get off on that subject. I actually dropped the distributor that I was using for 15 years because they still to this day have not produced a heat pump system that does not need heat strips, and I feel like that's crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy, but they did just acquire Fujitsu, which makes me believe that they're about to, so if they can't figure it out, maybe they're going to pay somebody who can figure it out for them. Yes, yes, I have only seen one of these, the Mitsubishi, yes, the liquid vapor separator on the liquid receiver I was talking about, yes, that's kind of what it is. It's like Like an accumulator, basically, but it's for your liquid line. But I don't think the Griflexes, they have advanced a little bit. They don't use the liquid receiver anymore. I think they are also, as far as I saw in AHR two years ago, they are heating it up through a heat sink also. And I think they are becoming more communicating. The original Griflexes were not very, they were, basically the original Griflexes that I installed over a period of like two or three years, They just basically slowly ramped up to like full speed and just stayed there until they satisfied the thermostat. And to me that's not fully communicating, that is not modulating, that defeats the purpose of having a variable speed system. Even the one that I dislike, my Bosch here at the house, even it does better than that. So now the Bosch may Require me to install heat strips, but when it's running and cool, it does modulate and I do control it 24 volts with 24 volts. I'm not sure there's another way to hook up the one that I've got. Fujitsu. Yes, Fujitsu is still a thing. They were just bought by the parent company of Rheem or is that Rheem? Yes, they were just bought by them. I just I still have a relationship with my root dealer, but I'm opting for the ACIQ because of the technology that they are offering that I have always wanted. And hopefully Rheem will figure things out that that's the direction of things and they will start offering a product. They have a side discharge inverter heat pump, but it don't have hot gas injection. So it's kind of like a, A poor copy of a good product, in my opinion. I think some people are still talking about college football on there. Are we fired up because of college football because of the spring game? I completely missed it. I stayed at home all day yesterday. It was one of the first days I've been able to stay home all day, in months, which means I'm probably going to have to work double time tomorrow, but we'll see what Carlos has. I installed the soft start for a regular condenser two years ago. I haven't had any issues with it. Actually, it helps to run the AC while the whole house. Yes, that is part of the reason some people have those installed so that they can use a generator and run their air conditioner at the same time. That is the number one reason those are requested around here. I even have requests to put those on RVs. Like the air conditioners, like the tiny little air conditioners that sit over the hole in the top of an RV. Sometimes they want a soft start on that and I think that's where they actually made their start, the soft starts did. Okay, do you need a communicating thermostat to get full efficiency on an inverter system or can you get the same SEER with a 24 volt thermostat? I'll leave that up there for a second. I think the fully communicating thermostats are beneficial. I do. It allows more control and more flow of information than just the 24 volts. Um, You do get the full SEER rating with the 24, like the ACIQs you can get, you can wire it up for Y1 and Y2 and then it monitors superheat subcool pressures and stuff like that. It still gives you the same benefits, but if I had my druthers, I would hook up fully communicating because there's a much more information going back and forth between the indoor and outdoor unit. Thank you, ma'am. It is good to take a break sometimes. It's not often that I get to and I know my busy season is right around the corner. Actually, right now the preventive maintenances are starting to fire up. I know I've got at least one tomorrow and I've got another one Tuesday with two systems on it. In fact, the guy that wanted the 5 ton Bosch package unit I'm doing his house on Tuesday so and he's got two systems on his house and here's another answer to that question just a second ago the 24 volt thermostat is a downgrade the the actually the ACIQ communicating thermostat that I installed on my neighbors is a really nice thermostat I would in my opinion it's even nicer than the ecobees the and those are Those are some of the nicest. Um, Wi-Fi thermostats on the market, in my opinion, they're better than, they do a better job than many of the other Wi-Fi thermostats. And this fully communicating thermostat for the ACIQ systems, in my opinion, it is nicer than, than the Ecobee. It is, it's very nice. I liked it. Um, some of my customers have not opted for that. In fact, I'm doing an ACIQ system, hopefully Friday. And that one's going to be a 4-ton. I'm looking forward to that one. New line set, new disconnects, surge protectors, all the good stuff. So, y'all tell me, if you're installing inverter systems, what do you like about them? And which ones do you prefer? Of the inverter systems that I have installed, the ACIQs and... Y'all forgive me, ACIQ. I'm going to mention one of your competitors here, but the Amana S Series is a really good product. I liked it. They also have a fully communicating two-wire thermostat. It's not as nice as ACIQ's, but it also has some very nice options in it to help control humidity, and that was a nice system. And there were some things about it that ACIQ does not have that I liked. Solder joints and Quarter-inch service valves, so you don't have to use the adapter. If you're listening in ACIQ, those are nice little things here in the States. I didn't quote one, but you can send one. I happen to like those thermostats. It just means I would need to provide communication cable instead of 18-8 thermostat wire. I'm glad you hear me. It's nice to be able to have a platform that gives voice to some of the things that we want. And I'll be honest, Some of the products that y'all are coming out with sounds like y'all been listening to owners and technicians and designing the products for us like that. Is it the AHD air handler that is dual voltage? That to me, it's hard to say how much I like it without using some kind of crazy vulgarity, but it is the best. I like it. That's one of the best air handlers on the market. I like it. So it's obvious that some of the engineers are listening to what we want. Well guys, the technicians that tuned in to hear about the high efficiency and how they basically work, I don't have enough knowledge to get in to tell you exactly how the rectifiers and how the capacitors and all modulate and make everything work. I can just tell you what Maybe a power module does or the board before it. You have a control board sometimes that controls the power module and the power module actually creates the voltage. How everything works on that board and whatnot that's beyond me. I did try to book us a um somebody who knows a lot more about those kinds of things um but it was kind of a last minute thing. I wasn't sure what my subject on today's video was going to be. I even contacted My uncle, who's an engineer, and he didn't know anything about them. Yeah. Actually, it was a shot in the dark contacting him because he's a nuclear, he was a nuclear engineer. So yeah, it was a shot in the dark. I thought, well, maybe he might know something about it. Those guys have to know a lot about a lot of things. Let's see. It's fun watching a big VFD spontaneously self-destruct. Oh, wow. It'd be great if you catch something like that on video. I have seen the aftermath of what happens when one of those things just blows up. I have seen where one has caught on fire inside one of the carrier rooftop units, burned up all the insulation, and even had char and smoke marks on the outside of the unit where the VFD caught on fire. And believe it or not, you could still just unplug it and then plug the power wires right into the motor. thing fired right back up and went to working. if you're going to have a VFD that's a great way to design it where you can just bypass it like that. and now have you seen some of these new carrier rooftop units with these these weird blower motors on with the blue housing that circular and blows down. I'm going to slow it down. why are they doing that? i mean is that is there a reason? it just seems like I don't get the purpose of doing that. Now, the one that I was talking about that I saw blow up, that might have been like a three or four horsepower motor, but a 215, I think the biggest three-phase motor I've ever replaced was some, it was less than a hundred horsepower, but it was big and we had to get the motor rebuilt. And when they rebuilt it, When they rebuilt it, they painted it gold, like it was something super special. I thought that was funny. But the reason we had to replace that one is because it was on the hospital. The whole building, single phased. So when we replaced the motor, the maintenance man was coming up there. By that, when I say single phased, it's a three-phase building. So all the big motors are three-phase. It lost one leg to the whole building. Which means all the big three-phase motors were suddenly running on two legs instead of three. It burned up that big, about 100 horsepower motor. And while we were up there replacing it, the maintenance man kept coming back up saying, Hey, will you check on this one motor, this pump down here? Will you check on this and that? And they were all burned up. A single phase in a big building like that, it just caused a lot of damage. Just we were just finding One motor one at a time that needed replacing. Let's see here. I had an inverter heat pump installed and the tech used 24 volt stat trying to see if it's worth shopping for a communicating stat not to I'm not a tech though just technically inclined homeowner. Um if your system has the communication capability and you can do it and make it look good and understand how to hook up the Let's hook up the communication wires. Maybe watch a video on it. Read a manual on how to hook those up. Maybe. It does give you a little bit more control and it does give your system a little bit more flexibility. It gives it more input. Let's go back to the original comment on that one. Correct, but isn't the dual voltage already on the market and all in other products? And from my research and pricing isn't much different. What separates ACIQ from carrier if I get the same price? Yeah, my experience is you ain't gonna get the same price, especially. Now, here's my experience with Carrier and their red-headed step-cousin, Trane. When their products go out of warranty, that's when they get you. They might try to offer you a low price on equipment, but man, they get you. For example, an evaporator coil. I just quoted a four-ton evaporator coil on a A residential air handler that was 13 years old. $1,800, I can get an air handler cheaper than that. And that's what they want to do. They want to move big boxes. They don't want to move the little ones. It's just more profitable for them. So they jacked up the price. And in my experience, you're not going to find a carrier product, the same price that you're going to find an ACIQ product. If you do, it's probably not made by carrier. I'm just saying, okay, is it a carrier product? Well, I'm reading comments. For those of you who are listening. But from my research, and the pricing was nearly identical, what I get carrier for an ACIQ would charge me, would I choose ACIQ at that point? I see ACIQ responding. The inverter systems that I have seen carrier offering that have hot gas injection are not made by Carrier or ICP. They're made by Midea, the ones that I have seen that are being offered. So it may be a very similar product. Let's read ACIQ's comment. Plus the other separation is tech support and customer service. We are awesome. And yes, I'm blowing our horn. If you work with that ACIQ, you get treated well. I got to testify to that. And that is Penny speaking there. Penny has helped me personally. She, for example, I had a piece of equipment that was taking too long to get here. got on the horn and said, hey, this ain't going to work. And they took care of me as quick as they could um it's just the the attention to that kind of detail and um there's other customer support if you're asking made in the USA 1776 if you're asking as a homeowner or DIYer with one project that you want to do I can understand the question and the maybe it seems the same to you but as a contractor and as a dealer who's selling equipment to my customers There's no comparison. It could be the exact same product, in my opinion, and I would still go with ACIQ because of the customer support they give me. That's the reason I stuck with my Ruud dealer for so long, because they were giving me such good customer support. But just the year after year after year, ignoring the calls for inverter-driven systems and side discharge and... hot gas injection which we have been seeing in many splits for years and years and years and years Rheem and Ruud just constantly ignoring that that's what drove me away from them so um i get i get my cake and eat it too with ACIQ i get the technology i want and i get the customer support that i loved over there at my Reem my Rude dealer so it's just a good combination for me i'm going to do my best to stick with them and i'm hoping things really work out I, okay, talking about the carrier parts, I just went off on the carrier parts a little while ago. One of the comments is, if you're an authorized carrier dealer, you do get a more reasonable price on parts. Okay, around here, we have one authorized carrier dealer in the whole town and maybe three or four Bryant dealers and then everybody else gets their, what used to be paying. Because I'm a one-man show, they never would even sell me the Bryant. And the price of their parts, I did try to go ICP in that direction and paint it one time for one year. And the price of their parts is what just, there was just no way I was going to continue down that path and try to pursue the opportunity of installing. Infinity or something like that when I didn't even believe in them because they never offered hot gas injection or maybe they do now but they didn't then and I knew it was out there and I just so I'm not a carrier dealer. I can't I can sell carrier commercial equipment. Anybody can but the residential we have one company in town that is locked in on that. Okay um y'all forgive me we are getting a little close. I want to respond to this a little bit um ACIQ was mentioning that they support me and they do they do and it's not just being supportive with helping me get the parts and the equipment that I need um and one of the comments is that they seem to really support creators and influencers they offer I'll just give one example they offer a um a program for any contractor that signs up with them to help them with their social media marketing. They have somebody who is dedicated just to help you get the marketing you need so that you can get the business you need, because if you're more successful, they're more successful. And I've never had another distributor or company even try to do something like that for me. So that's a level of taking care of their customers Other companies just never have even. I've never tried. So anyway, guys, it's getting close to the 6 o'clock, which means I'm going to go watch the news and see if the world is burning down. I do appreciate y'all tuning in, and I do appreciate all the comments, and I am looking forward to college football this year. So hopefully Georgia will do well. Hopefully. If they don't, I can always root against Alabama. Thank you for watching, guys. I do appreciate it.