Trade Rumors ESCALATING... This is INSANE | Red Wings News

Trade rumors and reports are continuing to escalate revolving around the Detroit Red Wings and this time John Gibson as the goaltending position within the Red Wings has just took a very interesting turn and one Eastern Conference team has now been linked to John Gibson and we're going to break that down as well as multiple other updates on Todd McClellan, the rest of the coaching staff, Dylan Larkin, what's happening with Simon Evans and all of this plays in together is all roped in together with this organization and comments from Chris Ilitch on what the plan is with a general manager because of course they still have an interim general manager in Sean Horcoff we're going to break that all down and much more in this episode of Red Wings Digest but before we jump into all of that a quick reminder to hit that subscribe button a large percentage of you guys who watch these videos every single day are not subscribed to the channel so if you want to stay up to date with everything that's happening with the Red Wings on a daily basis Mark and I got you covered with everything that's happening around the Red Wings now of course they played last night and we're going to get into Tarasov and all of that later on in the video let's get into some trade reports of course first everybody wants to hear that what's happening with John Gibson but mark before we do that Chris Ilitch did an interview with the fourth period and i thought there was some very interesting stuff here because he said that he was looking to hire a president of hockey ops before a full-time general manager they are doing some weird stuff and let me tell you it is so abundantly obvious to me at this point that they wanted the general manager of the Detroit Tigers to jump ship to be the general manager of the Detroit Red Wings he said no and then their whole plan fell through the cracks and i thought a couple of these quotes were interesting because there's nothing here there's no substance again from Chris Ilitch he said that Sean Horcoff is doing a great job he's come in he's hit the ground running it's a great opportunity for him it's a great opportunity for me to see him in action and he's been really good did a great job with Alex yeah the only move that he's made and it should have been a slam dunk same with Simon Evanson which is still not done by the way so he's failing in that respect Mark what do you make of this because he said he's as frustrated as fans are that's not true fans are way more frustrated than he is because it is so obvious that a couple of these moves were slam dunks and they've continued to to not execute upon them and i feel like Sean Horcoff is not even allowed to execute them i think the best silver lining on this if you hire someone in the president of hockey ops role maybe he gets a tiny bit of say in their next general manager so it's not Chris Ilitch getting a cheap option that's going to come in and be a yes man maybe you get someone that comes in I know Jim Rutherford's name has popped up quite a bit there's a lot of guys that could be linked to this position and a lot of guys that genuinely could step in and maybe be that middle ground between the owner and the general managers we see it quite a bit but at the end of the day the quotes again saying he's doing an incredible job he's not given a chance to do a job he made an easy signing with a guy that wants to be here and even easier signing is still not done yet but at the end of it again i think the best part of this is is maybe president of hockey ops comes in and actually gets a tiny bit of say when it comes to hiring their full-time general manager you'd like to think that but nothing really suggests that that will happen maybe maybe anything can happen i guess that's sports but uh i don't think so with this owner now let's get into the trade rumors that are flying around is it a good idea is it the cards to trade John Gibson now a lot of people might be like whoa what are you talking about let's get into it Mark because right now John Gibson's in the last year of his 6.4 million dollar contract it expires at the end of this year and there's one team in particular and if there was no injury to this team starting goaltender this wouldn't even be a conversation right now at least with this team but it might have been a conversation for the Red Wings and let's be honest let's be frank I know they won last night the team has not started well and I don't really know what the direction is for this team and you have goaltenders in the system right now so one team in particular could use John Gibson and that is the New York Rangers Igor Grissom's out for the season they are playing very well and I don't think they want to waste this opportunity I feel like they can go out and acquire a goaltender now here's the thing with the Red Wings from my point of view at least Mark and let me know how you feel I feel like this actually might be a good idea to target the Rangers here because they got to see what's happening with Dylan Larkin still and they're going to give the kid a shot and they want to see how he bounces back and i think it's a good idea for that team to do that to see how he bounces back from a bad loss but i think they're going to ride that out a little bit longer but there might come a point where they come knocking they come calling and you have goaltenders in the system i don't know if john gibson you know fits the timeline of this team anymore as crazy as it is to say at this point we thought that they were going to make the playoffs and all that song and dance last couple years so you have goaltenders and you can trade him in the last year of his contract for future assets I feel like it could actually be something that works out for you know both teams here so Mark I don't know if you have any differing opinions here but I think this is something that again it's picking up a lot on social media right now because of how well Tarasov's playing that maybe it's okay to move off John Gibson at this point if this team continues to falter and look like they're going to be out of the playoffs by Thanksgiving I think the biggest thing is if this is a Detroit team that's fully committed into trying to make the playoffs no matter what the cost is of course they want to flip Dylan Larkin for first line center that's not going to happen they want to flip Evenson for more pieces some could be futures but they'd like to get some roster guys back I think in a vacuum yes this makes total sense your team that's not near the top of the standings the New York Rangers desperately need a starting goaltender though some of the young guys have been playing well for them you still want a solidified guy that's been there done that has been around the NHL so with this I think it depends on the options or what the assets would be coming back and again looking at the Red Wings because this is going to be a trade that I think would be hey we're throwing it in for the season we're looking for a top pick and how do some of the guys within this team kind of take that of course Dylan Larkin always wants out and he doesn't want to be with this organization maybe if you start winning games that changes but I think with trading this it really depends on if you want to go into a rebuild or rebuild or if you're committed to winning which is definitely not the good idea at this point because with the standings the way the players are playing the way you haven't made moves this is not a serious or competitive team which is sad to say and honestly with John Gibson there's a realistic opportunity where he says hey I don't want to come back what's the point I want to go contend I want to win a cup maybe he signs with the team like the Rangers next season but there is I think at this point as much as I love John Gibson it's an asset that's expiring you might as well get something for a guy that could walk for absolutely nothing and you said that the team hasn't really you know shown that they're committed to winning which i think can be true it's so weird because they haven't traded Dylan Larkin, which says hey we don't want to trade you for nothing and we want to keep you on the team so we can be competitive but then on the other side of things we haven't pulled the trigger on Simon Evanson yet we're playing hardball with them it's weird like it's hard to say that they've committed to winning right because they haven't really made that many trades and then the big splash that we said they had to go out and do at last on this channel at last year's trade deadline to go out and get a center you ended up getting Justin Faulk and then you missed the playoffs anyway right so like i i don't know if you can say that this team is committed to winning one team that has been committed to winning this season though is the New York Rangers and they said no we're gonna figure this out whether it's with a goaltender or like acquiring a goaltender via trade or not which i think is interesting but Shesterkin's out for the year and i just wonder if they think Grant and Cronenworth when he comes back from injury can carry the entire season load i don't know Dylan Grant's never done it and Corpus Salo is not that good they might come calling at some point if they haven't already Grant has some decent stats but i think this is you know a scenario where by december they could be calling and saying we want John Gibson what would you like for John Gibson so and John Gibson by the way like in terms of starts game over game so far this season obviously you see a lot of red here but league average is roughly .900 a .900 save percentage now it's way down uh from what we know it to be you know he started the season well and then it's kind of dropped off since then but at the same time i don't even know if you can fault the guy the guy the goaltender specifically this is falling on the team it's not a great team it's not well constructed there's a lot of rookies here that you're hoping we're gonna come into that you know and fit into those roles nicely hasn't happened too seamlessly yet it's early in the season but with all the turmoil from the the summer and the way that they've started compared to last year it's hard to believe that they're going to be a playoff team this year it's really hard to believe like i just don't see it so um and again if you look at some of the advanced analytics uh the verdict is it's too early to say if you know it's if it's luck or john gibson is not good or what it is with the team we're only like you know handful of games still into the season but it's very interesting and when you're talking about you know the detroit red wings as a team not as great you put john gibson john gibson into the rangers system the way that they're playing this year i feel like there's value there for the rangers they would be willing to spend some young assets so and they got some great young defensemen they got some great young forwards too whether it's in the ahl or the nhl if you want to trade off the roster it's definitely an option so people are starting to talk about it and one reason i want your thoughts on this too mark one reason a lot of people are starting to talk about it is because Denis Tarasov who was signed this offseason has started the season very well he's rocking a .974 save percentage which is like not sustainable at all but he's played two games and he's looked really good so now people are starting to connect the dots take advantage of situations around the league trade John Gibson because it doesn't look like this team has any direction let alone looks like it's moving forward Denis Tarasov can take over and then you have Michael Pastava and of course Trey Augustine can be the starter of the Grand Rapids Griffins and just continue his development so i would agree with that sentiment i don't know if you feel any differently but the way he started i know it's a small sample size um i think you at least start thinking about it this trade might not happen today tomorrow next week but it could around december i feel like there could be something bubbling here yeah if you get into christmas and this is a team that's nowhere near the wildcard race and again with the eastern conference this is one of the most stacked eastern conference we've seen in quite some time there's so many moves so many player movements teams getting better teams like the florida panthers that of course dealt with a lot of injuries and still are but they got their team back competitive there's so much just pushing within this and with this team i think if you get into christmas you're nowhere near a spot they're gonna start selling guys which doesn't look great because you bought last year and you didn't even buy the preferred positions that fans and the team needed but with this now with the young guys pushing through with possible looking good and of course with Tarasov being outstanding incredible pick up fantasy by the way this is a team that they need to make a decision and it's going to come before the Christmas break at this point in my opinion yeah definitely and i again it's coming soon to try to take advantage here there's no real direction to this team and again maybe wait another week or two but try to take advantage of another team that wants to make a move here now i do want to introduce a new segment comment of the day so make sure you guys are commenting down below uh fans are talking about it playing Gibson over Tarasov or after Tarasov didn't allow a single goal and regulation is crazy Gibson's last game he allowed five goals in a period and a half play Tarasov so people are talking about it right now this is a storyline guys let us know in the comments how you feel would you trade John Gibson if you were the Detroit Red Wings explore a trade now or would you just keep him maybe even resign him next year with what happened with uh Kassa as well i think you'd look at a trade here with John Gibson it just hasn't started well i i don't think we expected anything different honestly you and i mark here on the channel for how the season's gone so far but i i think that no one really expected the New York Rangers to possibly be in the market for a goaltender exactly like this because they need somebody who's on an expiring contract for when Igor Shesterkin returns next season because the implications that has on the salary cap but guys let us know in the comments how you feel about everything we discussed today would you trade John Gibson are you confident in Daniil Tarasov's start so far this season and would you pick up the phone from the New York Rangers and make a trade