This video will be an exploration of the world of Ancient Greece following the Greco-Persian war. Following the defeat of the Persians, twice, peace has now returned to the Ancient Greek lands. But not all is well. There are essentially 5 very important entities to discuss in regards to the post Greco-Persian war world. Athens, rulers over the waves, holder of a large pan-Hellenic empire in the form of their "military alliance", the Delian League. Sparta, the oligarchic and monarchist candidate, famed from their increadible military abilities. Thebes, the third underdog. Aligned with Sparta in the hopes of annexing more lands into their federation. Macedonia, the kingdom that really, really wants to be Greek. And finally Persia, bitter about their previous defeats, still deeply ingrained in Greek geopolitics. Join me in exploring the cold war for ancient Greece between Athens and Sparta.
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This video analyzes the geopolitical dynamics of ancient Greece between the Greco-Persian and Peloponnesian wars, contrasting the naval empire of Athens with the land-based power of Sparta. It explores their divergent governance, the influence of the Persian Empire, and the eventual rise of Macedonia under Philip II.
Some of the most impactful wars in ancient Greek history were the Greco-Persian wars between the
Greeks and the Persians and then right after the Peloponnesian war amongst the Greeks themselves.
What I want to discuss today, however, is the period in between. I want to discuss the most
prominent entities around ancient Greece right after the Greco-Persian war, discussing their
governance structures, national characters, and geopolitical goals in the lead up to the
Peloponnesian war without actually focusing on this Peloponnesian war. But to start off with,
we need to quickly discuss the Greco-Persian wars, which set up the time period we will be discussing.
So the Greco-
Actually, you won't need to waste time doing that.
Who are you?
Yo, I'm XFRA in exile and I've just released a video about the roots and course of the first
Greco-Persian war on my channel.
Uh, okay. And where could they find your channel?
The search bar. I mean, in the description, of course.
Alright, very interesting. Go to the link in the description to find XFRA's video on the
Greco-Persian war. He's an upcoming history YouTuber with a very nice distinct and comedic
style of videos and I highly encourage you to check him out. But quick, before you go,
can you explain the Greco-Persian war in like, two sentences?
Make it three. Around 550 BC, the Achaemenid Persians conquered some Greek city-states in
Asia Minor, which rebelled 50 years later and were crushed. Persia then chose to just
conquer all of Greece to punish them but were promptly kicked out. And now the Greeks need
to find out where to go from here.
Thank you very much and I hope to see you later.
So yeah, the Greco-Persian wars had seen the Greeks invaded by the Persians twice.
The traditional great power of Greece and the city-state with the manliest men on the block,
Sparta, had led the pan-Greek land armies to victory while the naval power of Athens
had achieved naval supremacy over the Persians, devastating crucial Persian naval supply routes.
This led Athens to get an insane boost of confidence and after the Persian wars ended,
the Athenians began to assert themselves as a rival power to Sparta for the top spot among
the Greek city-states. The power plays between these two powers would be the defining factor
in the Greek world going forward. But who are these city-states? We all know the basics,
but can we get more specific? Yes, we can. Let's begin with Sparta. We all know the
basics of Sparta. Strong, masculine men who are great at fighting. But what's beneath
the surface? The Spartan political system was absolutely fascinating. While we today
drool at the idea that those enlightened Athenians had already invented democracy,
this wasn't always the case. In ancient Greek times, many philosophers thought democracy was
an overhyped concept, allowing for the arbitrary will of the masses to dominate and divide the
nation. With many philosophers preferring oligarchies where, preferably, the philosophers
were in charge, and many had a particular fondness towards the Spartan political system.
This would continue in later times with many Renaissance and Enlightenment thinkers being
fascinated by the Spartan political system as much as, if not more so, than the Athenian one.
So, what did the Spartan system look like? First off, Sparta was a monarchy. There were two kings
in Sparta from two different royal lines, the Aegean and the Eurypontid. Both of these kings
were, according to legend, descended from Heracles himself. These two kings were equal in power to
each other to prevent Aether from becoming too powerful. In the time period we're discussing,
however, these kings had lost most of their political power. The king's main roles were
military as both kings commanded half of the Spartan army and the king also had some important
religious functions. So, Sparta was a kingdom, but Sparta was also a democracy. That's right,
all Spartan citizens could vote for the five ephors. These ephors were the executive power
in Sparta and despite me portraying them as some nerds, these ephors were essentially the most
powerful political force within Sparta. Their functions included keeping the kings in check
and making sure that the decisions made by the legislature were followed. A powerful check on
these ephors came in the form of them only having single-year terms with no option for re-election,
meaning that any ephor abuse of power could be swiftly dealt with when their term ends.
To add another institution, Sparta was also an oligarchy, with the gerousia, the council of
elders, serving as the legislative branch of Sparta. This gerousia was made up of 30 men,
two of which were the two kings and the other 28 were Spartan citizens over 60,
elected by the Spartan citizenry. They thought up of law proposals which they would then present to
the ecclesia, the final institution in the totally not complicated Spartan political system.
This ecclesia was a body made up of the Spartan citizenry and here it's important to explore what
that meant. Because in Sparta and in most other Greek cities, not every inhabitant was a citizen,
as foreigners, slaves, children and females were prohibited from being a citizen,
leaving only adult male Spartans as citizens. These citizens would thus make up the ecclesia,
which would be presented with law options from the gerousia and they would have no opportunity
to discuss, change, criticize or debate the options, only choose.
Sparta was also very strict in shielding itself to foreign interference, especially their democratic
elements, with the Spartan population being restricted from communication with the outside
and foreign embassies only addressing the gerousia or the kings.
The Spartan geopolitical situation is also very fascinating. The Spartans had a very peculiar
way of fueling their masculine way of life. Have you ever wondered how the Spartans could
manage to devote so much time towards being a perfect soldier? Well, it's quite simple.
The average Spartan didn't really have to work in the way that most others at the time did.
Why not? Because the Spartans had a very intense system of practically slavery.
The Spartans, when they came to the island, had constructed their city in a very defensive
location in the southern Peloponnese, carving out what would be the limits of Sparta proper.
You may notice that Sparta, on all the other maps I've showed,
is significantly larger than on this map. What gives? Well, Sparta did expand significantly more,
encompassing the southern half of the Peloponnesian island, but these conquered territories
weren't made apart of Sparta, instead becoming something like mass enslaved lands with the
people becoming helots, the backbone of the Spartan agriculture in a self-fueling system.
The helots would work the land and as such provide food for the Spartans. But because
there were significantly more helots than there were Spartans, there was always fear and paranoia
that the helots may just revolt. This meant that Sparta needed to be militarily powerful
to ensure that they could always keep the helots down. Luckily, the Spartans could focus most of
their efforts on their military as they didn't need to care much about their food supply,
giving them the ability to train their citizens from a young age to be the perfect soldier.
Across Greece, Sparta would build up a string of alliances. This entire string of alliances
is often called the Peloponnesian League since that name contrasts nicely to the Athenian
Delian League, but this name is a later invention and it was not at all used during ancient times.
Despite this, I will still use it since branding wasn't invented yet in the ancient era
and the only alternative contemporary name I could find was Delecamodemians and their allies,
which just isn't as catchy. For that reason, I will keep using the name Peloponnesian League.
The league itself is also much smaller than what you often see displayed, as maps like this count
all Spartan allies as league members while in reality many Spartan allies lay outside of the
league. The actual league is displayed here in pink as a collection of city-states on the
Peloponnesian island. This was the core of the Spartan alliance, a league of city-states wherein
Sparta was clearly the most powerful and important. Very interestingly, none of the league members
technically had an alliance with the other members, they just all happened to be jointly
allied to the Spartans. This string of Spartan alliances, both within the league and outside of
it, was held together for two main reasons. The first reason is simple. Sparta holds the
most powerful army in Greece, having them on your side in conflicts, kinda nice. The second
reason is also simple. Sparta didn't like those pesty democrats in Athens so the elites of the
oligarchic city-states could count on Spartan support against democratic revolts. But Sparta
was not all-powerful within the league and by the time of the Peloponnesian war, the league worked
like this. The Spartan ecclesia, so the Spartan citizenry, would decide amongst themselves about
the Spartan stance on a certain war or peace. The Spartans would then inform the league about
their decision and the league members would vote yes or no. If a majority was reached, all league
members, even those who voted against the war, would put their army under Spartan control and
join the war. This meant that the league was not necessarily just a Spartan tool for war. Especially
this city-state, Corinth, had a habit of blocking Spartan plans. Corinth is this city-state marked
in purple and it was located on a crucial spot blocking all entry in and out of the Peloponnesian
island. Corinth would on multiple occasions manage to convince the league to vote against Spartan
plans. Besides that, Sparta was a very religious society and telling the Spartans, oh no, sorry,
we just had a bad omen, we won't come, has been known to work. That's a short recap of Sparta,
the oligarchic land-based traditional great power of Greece. In opposition, we have the Athenians,
the rising force in Greek politics. After the Greco-Persian wars, Athens would spread their
influence far and wide across the Aegean sea, which makes sense considering their naval prowess.
The Athenians would build themselves up as the protector of the Greek city-states against further
Persian attacks, mainly by building up their navy to such insane levels to keep everybody safe.
In this process, they created a massive sphere of influence, although a better name might be
a massive empire, as we'll soon see. In this process, the Athenians made many powerful enemies,
most notably Persia and Sparta. But who is Athens? Athens had an interesting political history,
full of tyrants and oligarchies, but in the time period we're discussing, Athens had established
their famous democracy. How does this democracy work though? Again, like with Sparta, only the
free, adult male Athenians were considered citizens, and as a result, only about 10% of
the up to 300,000 Athenians could actually participate in this democracy. This population
base forms the core of the Athenian political system. Furthermore, Athens was divided into 10
tribes. Each of these tribes would, via lottery, send 50 citizens to the bull, creating 500
bulletae in total. These bulletae would have the responsibility to prepare laws and proposals
which the ecclesia, the gathering of Athenian citizens, would then debate and vote on.
Importantly, in contrast to the Spartan system, the Athenians could debate and change these
proposals if they wanted to. The 500 bulletae essentially acted as the political class of the
Athenians, and apart from preparing laws, there were many other jobs they filled. One of these
was the committees of the council, which were responsible for hearing proposals from ordinary
Athenian citizens. There were also the praetani, which would be made up of a rotating 50 bulletae
from the same tribe. Among these praetani was the epistatus, chosen by lottery amongst the praetani,
and this epistatus would for 24 hours act as a sort of head of state for Athens, guarding the
keys to Athenian funds and documents, and receiving foreign ambassadors and messages.
Then the bull have one more organization, which for the life of me I cannot pronounce.
9 prudra are elected by lottery from the 450 non-praetani bulletae. They would be the ones
to actually prepare the proposals thought up by the bull to present to the ecclesia for the vote.
They would also be the ones to lead the gatherings of the ecclesia and they would supervise and keep
in check the other Athenian officials. So, that's the bull, essentially the political class
of Athens. But the core of the Athenian politics are still the people who gathered in the ecclesia.
Now, I tried to count the amount of people at this gathering, but I got distracted by this dog.
From what I could count, however, it seems impossible that the up to 30.000 Athenian
citizens could actually gather and discuss policy. Instead, the amount of people that
you can expect at one of these gatherings hovered around 6.000 Athenians. And sometimes,
the people participating are counted to ensure that there are no more than 6.000.
This makes sense. Have you ever done a group project? Yeah, even with like 3-6 people,
it's a drag. Now imagine a group project with 6.000 participants. It's incredibly impressive
that the Athenians even managed to get a working, direct democracy with 6.000 participants,
but at some point, it's just not practical to add more and more people.
So, the bull would prepare laws which would then be debated on and voted on in a session
of the ecclesia. There were no official parties or even politicians and everyone was free to speak,
debate, and propose counter-proposals during the gathering, although, naturally,
you would get figures which would come out to lead the conversations. There were also the archons,
a leftover from the oligarchic days of Athens who now lacked any real political power.
The military structure of Athens was also created with elections in mind as Athenian
generals and those serving below them were all elected via the ecclesia as well. Much influence
was also put into a type of judiciary, the heliaia. 6.000 citizens would become heliasts,
chosen by lottery from a pool of volunteers. For each committed crime, a new jury from this
pool of heliasts would be created. But perhaps the most interesting quirk from the Athenian
system would come from their fear of a return of a tyrant. We don't know how often this was used
exactly, but the Athenians had a system called ostracism, which would allow the Athenians to
write a name on a piece of a jug and the person with the most votes would be expelled from the
city. No reason had to be given and via this method, unwanted or too powerful Athenians
could be expelled. Finally, while the Athenian system is incredibly impressive,
it's important to note that while Athenian democracy is the most famous and influential,
Athens was by no means the only democracy in Greece and depending on which historian you ask,
hundreds to thousands of Greek city-states were at some point in their life-cycle democracies.
Thanks to their immense wealth, Athens would become the center for the Greek arts,
learning, and philosophy and many of the philosophers you've heard of probably came
from Athens. This is somewhat ironic considering the mass criticism that many of these philosophers
had of Athens in favour of Sparta. Situated here on the Attica plains, Athens was massively
into both. They loved them. Athens sported an impressive trading network across the Mediterranean
focusing on the Greek colonies founded across the ocean. This would also be the main source
of Athenian wealth. Their main source of military power, likewise, originated from their massive
fleet, number one across the Greek lands, managing to rival and defeat even the Persians in naval
combat. During the Greco-Persian wars, Athens would start to levy this naval power to further
Athenian interests, creating this Delian League as shown in blue. Much like the Peloponnesian League,
this name was not actually in use during the time period. The name comes from this island of Delos,
now shown in pink. You can't see it? Fine, I'll zoom in. On this island, the Delian League would,
for a while, keep its treasury and it's where the League would meet up. The League would start as a
military alliance against Persia with members paying for a common defence fund with which
Athens could build more boats to protect everyone with. In contrast to the Spartan League, however,
where Sparta was the hegemon but not all-powerful, Athens very quickly began to see the Delian League
as an Athenian empire instead. The League treasury was moved from Delos to Athens
and Athens began to use the money for other means, like building very pretty buildings,
which greatly annoyed the other League members. This had essentially turned the Delian League
into a series of alliances into a series of states paying tribute to the Athenians.
This was made even worse by the fact that leaving was no longer an option. Out of the entire Delian
League, only 4 city-states, one of which was Athens, still had their own navy. All the others
had deferred their naval protection to Athens. Trying to leave the League would often result
in Athens sailing up to your cities to force compliance. Athens and her empire would come
into direct conflict with the Spartans during this struggle for power, as Sparta attempted
to defend the status quo of oligarchic city-states, while Athens would attempt to assert more control,
even robbing allies from the Spartans at times, and allying with city-states like Argos on the
Peloponnesian island, antagonizing Sparta even further. These would be the two main sides in
the upcoming war in Greece, Athens with their informal empire and Sparta as the informal
hegemon of old. The third and final significant Greek city-states I want to discuss is Thebes,
the city colored in yellow here. The Thebans were the leader in a Boethian confederation
located in a crucial location in Greece, on the crossroads of any expansion over land.
Due to their location, the Thebans had sided with the Persians during the Greco-Persian wars,
leading to Thebes becoming relatively isolated for a little while as the other Greeks,
mainly Sparta, were angered by the Theban betrayal. But once the Greco-Persian wars
were decidedly over, the Thebans managed to recover in their standing, finding themselves
allied with the Spartans. This alliance was very natural, Thebes was an oligarchy,
which made them fall in favor with the Spartans, but perhaps more importantly,
their location meant that Sparta had surrounded Athens, allowing the Spartans to raid into
Athenian farmland. For Thebes itself, the alliance was built on a simple promise,
they would be able to expand as a result of Athenian defeats. In this Greek game of power,
Thebes would be a massive kickmaker, but it was after the Peloponnesian war,
where Sparta had managed to defeat Athens, that Thebes really peaked in power.
Sparta had, in the aftermath of the conflict, mishandled their geopolitical situation. They
had failed to reward major allies like Thebes and had, through the expansion of their sphere,
built up a massive coalition against them. Despite how it may look on the map, this war would be a
where Sparta would lose much influence across Greece, but also, Thebes would be decimated.
It would appear that all hope was lost for a Theban revival. But then, out of the blue,
the Theban warband would manage to destroy the Spartans at the battle of Leuctria.
This accidental Theban victory would shatter Spartan influence over Greece and set up Thebes
as the next great power of Greece, eclipsing both Athens and Sparta in power.
But, it's time to get some perspective. We have been hyper zoomed in on the Greeks,
making them seem super large and influential. But here is the same map, but zoomed out a little bit
more. Suddenly, the Greeks look quite tiny, they are barely large enough for me to even
draw their internal borders. Now, let's insert the Persians and… yeah. Essentially, despite the very
impressive Greek defences against the Persians, the Greeks were, at the end of the day,
still a sideshow, a plaything for the Persians. After the Persians had been defeated in the
Greco-Persian wars, they had largely given up on the idea of conquering Greece directly,
but they hadn't given up on influencing Greece. After all, Persia was the largest empire the
world had ever seen up to that point and they were quite bitter about their defeats.
This would result in the Persians constantly interfering with Greece, sometimes directly,
but most often by providing gold to the side that they wanted to win.
The Peloponnesian war is often compared to the Cold War, one side with a coalition of willing
allies fighting for the old world order, while the other is a rising power with a radical ideology
and is a lot more hands on enforcing their will upon their allies. If this comparison is true,
Persia is to Greece what our secret alien overlords are to us, not directly intervening,
but still influencing all events. The Peloponnesian war would eventually be won
by Sparta only after Persia provided them gold to build a navy with, for example.
The Persian empire is also one of the most underrated empires of all time,
at least in the western world. Before the rise of the Persians,
the Assyrian empire was dominant in the middle east. This Assyrian empire would rule with a
simple motto, if it isn't loyal, kill it. This Assyrian domination lasted for centuries,
until it collapsed through internal revolt and external invasion.
This post-Assyrian world order didn't last long, however, as this man, Cyrus the Great,
would take charge of the Median empire, the green nation on the right there. From there,
he would found the largest empire the world had ever seen. Because we in the west are influenced
a lot by the Greeks, who considered the Persians the enemies, our common perception of the Persians
is quite negative. The Greeks are the good democratic boys fighting for independence,
while the Persians are the evil imperialists. This does a massive disservice to the Persian
empire. The Persians were, in contrast to the Assyrians, extremely tolerant towards
their conquered people. Self-rule was common and permitted, there was a large respect for
other cultures and religions, and the emperor of the Persians took on not just the titles,
but often the religious and cultural roles of the other monarchs he conquered. The Persian
emperors didn't rule over Egypt as a Persian conqueror, but as an Egyptian pharaoh. The
Persians also built out an impressive road network, had a standardized imperial language
for administration, and were generally just quite chill rulers. Pay your taxes and you're good.
This is also why quite a few Greek city-states joined the Persians during the war. If you
were conquered by the Persians, you would be destroyed, but if you joined the Persians,
you could keep self-rule and would even see your territory expanded.
One of these states that sided with Persia was Macedonia, the final entity that I want to discuss.
The Macedonians weren't a Greek city-state, but more like a pseudo-Greek kingdom. The Macedonians
were Greek in many ways and considered themselves Greek, but other Greek city-states didn't recognize
them as such. Before the Persian conquests, the Macedonian state was relatively weak,
but thanks to their subjugation to the Persians, the Persians would influence them and give them
a much stronger and more unified state. In the post-Greco-Persian war world, Macedonia would
continue to consolidate their kingdom into a strong and cohesive whole, but still mostly
remain on the sidelines of Greek politics. This would change when Philip II of Macedon
would manage to take Macedonia to the next level. He would implement to great effects the phalanx,
a highly effective military strategy where you would have lines of spearmen behind each other.
Extremely deadly, but also extremely defensive with their shields and their walls of spears.
To make things even better for Philip, this is the state he found Greece in,
the post-Peloponnesian world where Athens and Sparta had collapsed and Thebes was now the
most powerful state. Philip would first manage to subjugate Thrace, after which
he could turn his attention south. In a series of battles, he would eventually manage to subjugate
all of Greece under his control, all apart from Sparta. Philip would send an envoy to Sparta,
demanding their subjugation, informing them, if we invade Laconia, I shall turn you out.
Sparta, in a very chad move, simply responded with, if. While a very badass remark by the Spartans,
Philip would put deeds to words and invade Sparta, devastating the Spartan lands and
leaving it a shell of its former self. Under Philip's son, whose name I've accidentally
forgotten, I'm sure he wasn't that important, Macedon would strike into and conquer the Persian
empire. All of this only made possible by administrative reforms made, thanks to Persia,
centuries ago. But, rewinding time to before we discussed Macedon and Thebes,
this is the balance of power between the Greco-Persian war and the Peloponnesian war.
An ambitious Thebes, seeking to expand their borders. A hegemonic Athens, controlling the
seas and keeping their empire together with their powerful navy. A conservative Sparta,
seeking to keep the old order of Olargese, led by, of course, themselves, intact.
Then finally, the giant empire of Persia, their prestige hurt by previous defeats,
still interested in keeping Greece divided and weak. The story of the Peloponnesian war will
be for another time, but this is the status quo as it stands before the Peloponnesian war.
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