The Raiders (Finally) Fire Luke Getsy As The Trade Deadline Looms

okay what a day I tell you what a day hello boys and girls Bleacher Report users if you're watching after the fact on YouTube welcome back to another live stream exclusively on Bleacher Report I'm back my name is Rodney thank you so much for watching and oh boy a lot's happened in the last 18 hours with the Las Vegas Raiders I thought at one point this was gonna be another recap of another loss from another bad football team last night I'm playing Call of Duty Black Ops 6 yes they roped me back in and my phone's going absolutely crazy and I see that Bleacher Report sends me an update on my phone and it says Antonio Pierce has yet to decide between you know Scott Turner or Edgar Bennett or he doesn't know who's calling the plays yet and in my mind I'm like oh Luke Getzey got demoted interesting interesting and then you know how phones work the iPhones like hide like a Bleacher Report notification under the next one it's like a stack I see another one a couple minutes before that one that says Luke Getzey has been relieved of his duties and I go okay I know what I'm talking about tomorrow so not only are we gonna talk about Luke Getzey I'm making sure that everything is going good here yep okay not only are we gonna talk about Luke Getzey right the offense as a whole but not only is it an election day tomorrow but it is the NFL trade deadline a lot of people gonna be on their phones tomorrow looking at updates of every single thing that's been going on and we are going to talk about what the Raiders should do they are obviously going to be sellers I'm going to discuss which player I believe is the most valuable for the Raiders to get rid of that wouldn't behoove them to do so in the future or yeah that it would not behoove them in the future to do like for example everyone's like are the Raiders gonna trade Max Crosby you know I don't want to get an email from Mark David like Anna Scheffner did but we will see what happens so the first thing I want to talk about before we get into all the trade chaos that will ensue is the Luke Getzey of it all I think this is something that we knew was in place that was going to happen for a long time it's just the timing of it all you know last year Halloween Josh McDaniels is gone and I don't want to celebrate firing people I don't know like I don't like doing that but this is a business they're making a lot of money to play football and to coach these teams right and at a certain point if you're not getting the job done you gotta go so my question to all of you watching here in the chat all of you watching post bleach report on YouTube my youtube channels youtube.com slash all over Raiders just at 10,000 subscribers no big deal my question to you is this and I'm gonna wait for the chat to fill up here before my first poll goes out my question is do or was the timing of this correct right because I don't and here's the thing look as I put the first poll out right does firing Getzey fix the offense that's the first thing we need to discuss because although I do think it was the right decision right I don't know if this is going to save the season in fact I'm pretty confident say that it's not going to quote-unquote save the season I don't expect the offense to look that much better right however it was the right move so you know these four these four options for the poll I kind of went through all different stages at first I was like absolutely this offense is gonna be rocking and rolling then I was like well they could be a little bit better I don't know if they have the roster in place and then the more I thought about the more I thought the rosters not yet ready to to take the next step so I'm not positive that the Luke Getzey decision is going to have any sort of impact positive or negative this season right that's just my personal opinion as of right now the poll is we don't have the players in place to improve and I completely agree with that you know we have some nice pieces we have a Brock Bowers right we have a Jacoby Myers although we might not once we talk about the trade deadline stuff not that I know anything about what's going on I'm just I'm just asking to ask right but yeah I I think that the Luke Getzey thing it was the right thing to do ultimately and I do think in the future if Antonio Pierce retains this job they need to do a really good job of making sure they get the next offensive coordinator right if they don't go with a Ben Johnson they need to find somebody that's gonna that will be able to develop the next quarterback that we draft because I think if you know if I was a betting man and I am and most people watching are I think you have to draft a quarterback in this year's draft and I don't know right now if I trust Antonio Pierce on his own to be able to develop this new young quarterback they're gonna need to find the next great offensive mind right so only time will tell only time will tell what say you guys do you do you have any idea as to who you want as next offensive coordinator because as of right now there are only two options on this current staff which will I get which I will get into in a second but Getzey's gone which is something that we all wanted so as we move on to the next question I have here because they did not yet announce who was going to be taking over for the play calling right they didn't announce it yet however I do think there are two options that they're gonna go with my my preference is to go with Edgar Bennett and as I put this next poll up here let's see actually I'll leave this one up until more people go but for right now I think they're gonna go Scott Turner Scott Turner was the offensive coordinator for the commanders and now he is our pass game core coordinator I believe so actually I will do it right now so unpin and close this one here's the next one who will call the offense now that Luke Getzey is no longer with us he's still alive he's just not coaching the team the consensus right now from insiders is that they are saying it makes the most sense for Scott Turner to take over the pass game and the run game I guess because he's the passing coordinator he will just have to get involved in the run game more obviously that's one of the biggest problems with our team so far here's my thing with Scott Turner he was the offensive coordinator 2020 to this new regime took over for the commanders right Edgar Bennett was the offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers from 2017 to 2019 before John Gruden hired him as our wide receiver coach and Josh McDaniels retained him which is why he's still on the roster he survived a bunch of different regimes a bunch of different coaching changes if you're looking at it in a vacuum the offense that Edgar Bennett Edgar Bennett excuse me ran with the Packers was better than the offense that Scott Turner ran with the commanders but if you look at the bigger picture Edgar Bennett had Devante Adams and Aaron Rodgers Scott Turner had who Taylor Heineke Sam Howell and that's ultimately my point with firing Luke Getzey and having one of these guys replace him my choice would be Bennett although I don't hate Scott Turner at least one of them has experience calling plays it's not gonna be a Bo Hardegre situation where he's never called plays before and he did okay for for what it was he wasn't great but he did okay I just don't think that especially at the quarterback position it's going to matter for this season maybe one of these two guys shows that they are able to at least put their hat in the ring to become the permanent offensive coordinator for next season but beyond that I don't think there's going to be much of a difference between Getzey you know I take that back there is going to be a significant difference in terms of scheme and in terms of getting our star players the ball because I think an interim coach their idea is to simplify everything right make sure we get Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers the football and I think we will have success doing that the problem again is going to be like when Luke Getzey we scripted the plays and it was perfect he had to go off script and it kind of fell apart right will Scott Turner or Edgar Bennett whoever it ends up being be able to go off script well enough make adjustments mid-game in-game first quarter second quarter third quarter to prove that they deserve a shot to be the permanent OC same thing that happened with Antonio Pierce right Raiders says Scott had Sam Howell throwing it all over the field he'd help see what Ritter can do we have nothing to lose let's see what we can do and that's ultimately the point right we've got nothing to lose and you bring up Desmond Ritter as I want to transition here into the trade deadline of it all because okay we're going to be sellers no doubt about it however there is a very bad situation that we have in terms of the quarterback position right and right now it's Gardner Minshew or Desmond Ritter or praying that Aidan O'Connell is healthy and that's not going to get it done so my first question in terms of the trade deadline is this should the Raiders trade for a quarterback this will determine if they sell right if they decide no there's still a chance that we could pull this off then I guess they would need to trade for a quarterback right but if they don't then they're not going to so I want to see what people are saying in the comments before we get into us selling and before we get into a potential another ad because I do think there are I think the Raiders are in an interesting spot right and I see people in the chat now okay we're going we're rocking the roll and my third option there is Ryan Tannehill here's like here's the ultimate question with trading for a quarterback if you're Antonio Pierce you want to win every football game you want to plan for the future you want to draft Shador Sanders whatever sure cool it's it all comes down to how confident he is that he will get another year with the Raiders if they continue to lose games if they go 2-15 does Antonio Pierce get another year or do they need to trade for a quarterback to be competitive enough to show Mark Davis okay Antonio Pierce it's just we just need the quarterback he's the right guy for the job and I think if you have that mindset there's a chance that they might want to trade for somebody and if they go to trade for one of these quarterbacks who is it going to be the first thing that pops into my mind is Justin Fields Anthony Richards his name has been thrown around Bryce Young's name has been thrown around Dak is hurt though I see it's Dak is available with the eyeball emojis I think he's hurt though that's ultimately what it comes down to in my personal opinion I don't think they should trade for a quarterback I think you just ride it out with Ritter until Aiden O'Connell is healthy Minshew doesn't see the light of day unless there's an injury because you cannot go back to starting and mentioning him starting and mentioning a certain point I feel bad for Gardner Minshew I think your role with Ritter your role with Aiden and you got to see if one of these two quarterbacks can be your backup quarterback for the foreseeable future and if that's great if they can that's great you got a good cheap backup quarterback if not then you got to go get a bridge quarterback like a Ryan Tannehill for this young kid so what are we seeing here why don't we just continue to tank get a good pick who cares about a 6-7 win season I don't disagree with that oh the acting sarcasm Tyrone says trade for fields are young if they pan out build your draft around them AP is gone if we do trade for somebody we need a line and CB help okay so here's the next question I have for you then because I understand as Raider fans we want to say let's upgrade let's upgrade I don't think as of right now we're in a position to be buyers right however I pose the question to you because I just want to gauge where we're all at is there a specific position you'd like to see us upgrade at or do you think we should just sell because I think there's a situation where you can trade for younger guys or guys that are on contract years and use that hundred million dollars that you have in cap space to extend these guys right and also sell off some older more experienced commodities the main person I'm thinking right now is Jacoby Myers he's not old by any stretch of the imagination but he's a valuable player I can think of a handful of teams right off the bat that would love to have Jacoby Myers on their team and I see Lando says we need draft picks I don't disagree with that I think the best to do that is to say hey we're open for business anybody that's not Max Crosby or Brock Bowers you know somebody that we just drafted it's time it's time so there's people the unfortunate thing is people that they might trade like a Marcus Epps maybe injured we have so many injuries so many linemen I just got hurt maybe they were thinking about getting rid of a Colton Miller and letting DJ glaze take over the left side of the offensive line but now he's hurt and I think that really throws a wrench in what Tom Telesco wanted to do initially there's not a lot of guys that come to mind that you can just outwardly sell and get a draft pick that's worth anything I see trade Diablo I trade anyone but Max JPJ Bennett anyone else can go I don't disagree with that if there are any biters for Minshew there won't be but if there are you try to get a seventh I wouldn't care at all I see Jay Martinez his trade on Merrick is gonna be traded that could be something that's possible too especially with Isaiah Polo now and how well he's playing Tyree Wilson only has one sack this season he's another guy that could be on the market but I like the way this polls going right now I do think if there's any position that we need to upgrade it's either running back or line wide receiver we can look at in free agency but I do think the main goal here is to sell right so as I discussed the Jacoby Myers of it all here's my thought process with the Jacoby trade Hobbs I wouldn't trade Hobbs I think Hobbs is too valuable okay so as I close this poll here and we move on to the Jacoby Myers of it all I cooked up a few options here and before you guys come at me and say Jacoby Myers is worth way more than a fourth round pick Devante Adams I know he's a little bit older just went for a third that could have become a second it ain't gonna become a second he went for a third round pick so if we were to deal Jacoby Myers who I think right now is the hottest commodity that the Raiders can use to get something back what is the ideal situation what is the ideal package that you would take for somebody like a Jacoby Myers and by the way I love Jacoby he was great yesterday he's one of the few guys that shows up weekend and week out but these are the three options that came to mind I think the 49ers could sneaky be a fourth option and don't be afraid to cook up your own trade options in the comments you know whether you're watching here live or watching on my youtube channel after I think if we go down the line here the Steelers are absolutely looking to upgrade the wide receiver position they have somebody like a Najee Harris and then have plug-and-play running backs behind Jalen Warren maybe a fifth round pick and Jalen Warren that could be interesting we can upgrade that running back with the young you know a young muscle hamster Doug Martin type guy the Texans Stephon Diggs they just lost for the season torn ACL Nico Collins is coming back right but they've shown to be aggressive with trading for wide receivers to help their young quarterback and I think that they would be in the market for somebody like a Jacoby Myers especially with Nico Collins coming back I don't think they're gonna offer anything more than one pick because they know they have Collins and Dell and they have the great tight end but the Texans I could be I could see as someone that would potentially want Jacoby Myers and lastly I have the Green Bay Packers the Packers have shown a willingness to have talks with us I know it was a different regime but I think the Packers are somebody you know they have a lot of good young talent but this last game against the Lions showed that firepower wise they have no chance and they went toe-to-toe with the Minnesota Vikings and the Vikings won another game the Vikings got an easy schedule coming up it's very foreseeable that the Vikings are eight and three worst-case scenario after three weeks and the Packers you know I think they're going to make the playoffs but that's a tough division even the Bears are no pushover so if the Packers go four and six for Jacoby I don't hate that either and then the last team I said although I have an option here to keep Jacoby which I think ultimately we will do although you never know Tom Telesco coupon Tom they call him wheeling and dealing it could free up some more calf space however I do think keeping Jacoby for the future is an interesting take because he's only what is he I think he's 28 years old that's not old at all receiver stretch the problem is he's not going to be your number one if you keep Jacoby Myers for the future you're going to have to find somebody in free agency like a T Higgins to supplement with him then you have a T Higgins if you sign him a free agency a Jacoby Myers a Trey Tucker to take off the top of the defense and a Brock Bowers which is your focal point so what are we saying here you need someone to throw the ball to besides Bowers for a young quarterback next year I don't disagree Jacoby for fields that could be interesting I can see Andre James getting traded the only problem with that is again I think he's a little banged up and he hasn't played particularly well I'm not going to listen to your opinion of a fire sale backhaul I'm not saying that we should trade all these guys in succession I'm saying there's a list of players that could be traded I'm not saying that they should trade all these guys but when I say that we should sell I'm simply saying that there are guys that we have that we could sell off one or two guys maximum not the whole list of people that I said bring back Darryl Monica hey if you had a time machine that would help we have Michael Mayer yeah I forgot about Michael Mayer know that about it give a Saints gardener for car their car yikes another another coach got fired under his tenure whoever to get a third from Pittsburgh I don't think we're gonna be able to get a third just because we set the market with Devante I think Devante right now peak of his powers is still a better player than Jacoby Myers but Tom Telesco has shown time and time again he's he's willing to take the right deal I think he did the best he could with a Devante situation especially with the way that was handled with Devante a little NBA esque kind of forcing his way to a specific team right I don't hate this trade trade Jacobi to the Niners for Trey Mason or I don't I don't or George Mason Trey Mason I just don't think that Kyle Shanahan would do that I think he values having like six running backs on his team especially with the amount of time Christian McCaffrey spends on IR I wouldn't hate that trade Hobbs and a fourth to Indy for Anthony Richardson the problem I have with Anthony Richardson and it might feel like a small thing right now but the fact that he took himself out of the game is wild he's either not built physically to be in the National Football League stamina wise or he's not built mentally which is a problem but if you guys got any other ideas about what we can do and look we could talk about Max right now the idea about trading Max Crosby I'll keep the poll going but I'll unpin it for now again I don't want to get an email from Mark Davis I don't want to get my my bosses at bleacher report reamed out however if the Detroit Lions came to you and said we'll give you three first-round picks for Max Crosby not gonna happen if they did do you say no I want the chat filling up if the if the Lions say three firsts for Max because what did we get for Kalila Mac two firsts I think at least two right we got two and maybe a fourth we gave up a third that end up being cold command I see Panthers want to trade us to Bahama question mark we'll get to that in a second would you take three first-round picks for Max Crosby keeping in mind that those picks are not going to be good first-round picks we're talking Detroit Lions specifically I see you know I'm instantly no exclamation point no all caps here's the thing I don't disagree oh I said okay I see no I see I trade Max for three first in a heartbeat no trade unless it's three first and and twos and two-thirds okay look I will not trade Max Crosby for anything he's the heart and soul of the team and I think you know he's got the Raider Nation tattooed on his body the Detroit Lions are going to be really good for a long time and that pick for the next three years is going to be 27 minimum and when we traded Khalil Mac to the Bears we were not able to capitalize with those picks and I trust Tom Telesco more than I trust Mike Mack and John Gruden but just because you get first-round picks doesn't mean anything I do think if we were like five and five right now but like or four and six right still kind of in the mix and we thought in order to be able to get up for Shador Sanders we would need more firsts it would be more enticing to trade Max to get those firsts in order to package something to maybe the Patriots to go up I don't think we need to do that because we're just that bad right now we're not gonna need more ammunition to trade up to get the guy we want because I think we're just going to be in position to get the guy we want and Max Crosby is not asking out just to be clear Ramirez said fire gets he gets he's been fired so that's where I've landed on the Max Crosby of it all I do think there's a world in which I would accept the Jacoby Myers trade under no circumstances in my training Max Crosby Mark Davis has made that clear Antonio Pierce has made that clear Max has made that clear yeah and unless he asks to be moved which he's made unequivocally clear from get-go from day one I would not get rid of him for anything as I said earlier all our trade capital is currently injured Raiders will make any moves because of injuries I don't disagree I think it was unfortunate how many guys have been injured this season in terms of the trade deadline and how many guys got injured yesterday in particular I think a couple of those linemen were ripe to be traded and now you need them all you need all of them it's an absolute problem so obviously the Raiders are gonna be sellers however there was one position I do think we could upgrade on and just because oops sorry just because we are looking to maybe upgrade at this specific position does not mean that we can't sell in the meantime so let's cook up some last-minute trades here for a running back because the running back situation for the Raiders has been terrible absolutely awful and I've got two options here the most likely options I think that could be on the block Tank Bigsby who is to ETN's back of who's looked pretty good in his absence Chuba Hubbard who's fifth in the league in rushing who was probably gonna lose his job soon to the rookie at a Texas Jonathan Brooks if you have another idea comment that below or do we stick with Alexander Madison and Zemir White here's the thing we're in sell mode but to upgrade at the running back position doesn't mean we're gonna win more games it just means that we have a better chance to be able to get the run game going next year once we draft this rookie quarterback and maybe you package somebody like a Jacobi Myers in one of these deals or a Trayvon Merrick in one of these deals I would not trade any draft capital fourth round and up for any one of these guys I'm going Jacobi Myers and a sixth or a seventh so we are still technically selling but upgrading the running back position I see Tom Telesco Pierce should should go should be let go for letting JJ walk out the door here's the problem with the Josh Jacobs of it all I just don't think we'd still be very good and now we've got a lot of money wrapped up in somebody who probably gets hurt this year because our offensive line has been terrible and we discussed Luke Etsy before I do think the offense is gonna look marginally better but I don't think it's gonna save the season right we don't have the players yet in place so you know Josh Jacobs it would be nice I just don't think that's a possibility right now in terms of him obviously he'd be on the team but I don't think he'd make us any better Damian Pierce is another guy that I don't hate I don't hate that at all draft a quarterback and running back with the first and second picks I see them sticking with Madison White and ultimately I do see them sticking with them as well Alexander Madison hasn't looked terrible maybe you keep him for next year and supplement him with you know a Najee Harris right somebody who's gonna be a free agent next year I don't think Najee is gonna get franchise tackled I could be wrong with that and you kind of let that be the two-headed monsters Amir Wright has been an absolute disaster this season although again it's not all his fault the offensive line has been terrible absolutely terrible but that's where I stand on all this Luke Getzey getting fired whether it's Edgar Bennett or Scott Turner taking over it's not gonna save the season although the offense should look a little bit better I would not trade Max Crosby for anything for a pot of gold or three wishes for 10 percent picks absolutely no circumstances I would not trade him Jacoby Myers is somebody that I absolutely could see them moving I prefer if they didn't but if they did I would love to get a running back in return or at least a fourth round pick but at the end of the day only time will tell we got about 24 hours until this thing is over so and by the way the Raiders lost I wasn't supposed to recap the game but we lost there was a moment there at the end with the Jack Jones pick was like oh we're gonna win this game nope we lost we stayed the course and we're still tanking we're not purposely tanking but we are losing I don't want to tank I'm anti tank but it's the nature of the beast that's the business if you want to get a quarterback you're gonna have to have a high pick most likely to get them so I think that's gonna be it for me guys thank you so much for watching whether you're watching live on Bleacher Report or watching the post upload on YouTube check me out youtube.com slash all aboard Raiders it's down here here it is right there I will see you next week let me get the time right I believe it's 2 p.m. no no not next week because next week we don't buy so the next time I will be on here is November 18th at 2 p.m. Eastern so thank you so much for watching I love you guys and I'll see you next time