Just how many antiques can one person collect in a lifetime? Hong Kong television legend Robert Chua has built one of the most overwhelming private Chinese antique collections I have ever seen. His home is filled with tens of thousands of objects — tomb figures, pottery horses, ancient bricks, ceramics and entire rooms that feel much closer to a private museum than a normal residence.
I traveled to Hong Kong to visit Robert at his home and to see the collection for myself. What I found was overwhelming: rooms filled to the brim with ancient artifacts that were stacked and arranged in a way that makes it almost impossible to count..... or even fully process for that matter.
This video has been a long time in the making, and I am very happy to finally share it with your all. At times, it moves quickly and that is intentional. When you walk through Robert’s home, there are SO many antiques in every direction that it becomes impossible to focus on just one object for very long. The pace of the video is meant to reflect the experience of being there. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Timestamps 0:00 Opening 1:50 Hong Kong 3:19 Hollywood Road 9:35 The Museum Home 27:12 The Garage 33:06 Interview
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This video explores the extraordinary life and private collection of Robert Chua, a Hong Kong broadcasting legend. Beyond his media career, Chua has spent decades assembling a museum-grade archive of ancient Chinese antiquities. The content delves into the scale of his collection, his philosophy on art and beauty, and his vision for preserving cultural heritage through a unique museum restaurant.
Most collectors have a cabinet, a shelf, perhaps even a room, but not Robert.
Robert Chua has something closer to a private museum.
Tens of thousands of pieces hidden away, sometimes stacked floor to ceiling.
Dinosaur eggs, tombware, even an almost life-sized horse.
Very, very few people get the privilege of being able to see this.
So I flew all the way from Japan to Hong Kong
to find out what kind of person built a collection this large.
This jar is about a thousand years old.
Now, lots of people collect things, but we're talking about ancient artifacts today.
In this video, I'm going to take you inside
the home of one of the world's most prolific collectors of Chinese antiques.
I'm going to show you some of the more unique and interesting parts of his collection,
and we're going to sit down and talk with him about how it all began.
We're also going to try to answer a question that I don't fully understand myself,
which is, at what point does it go from collecting to archiving an entire civilization?
And we're going to talk about what it's like to move,
really, an entire museum's worth of antiquities without the resources of an entire museum.
Oh, and if you stick around to the end of the video,
you'll find out what does Bruce Lee have to do with all this.
But first, we need to go to Hong Kong.
A few false starts, a few lines blurred.
I tried to describe her, but nothing came through.
No sentence was worthy, no phrase could be true.
I don't know why I was drawn that way.
Like the tide to the moon at night and today.
She was sunlight, she was music.
She was heaven moving through and she was fire.
She was water.
She was everything I couldn't see and I felt.
I love Hong Kong.
I love everything about it, actually.
I like the sounds, the sights, the taxis rolling by, the tall buildings, and the food.
I really love the food.
I even like the stifling humidity that normally when I was living here,
I was used to it, but I'm not so used to it anymore.
Yeah, this used to be my home.
This was my home for many years and I thought I would retire here,
but that's a story for another day.
In fact, I used to work right over there.
This is Hong Kong's Hollywood Road, which is the favorite famous antique street
and it was quite different back then.
Our gallery was there, the Lambs were there,
Honeychurch Antiques was over here, O-Ling was down there.
Of course, the streets changed a lot and most of it is now bars and restaurants and galleries.
These days, if you want to find any antiques, you're going to have to go,
well, at least halfway, maybe three quarters of the way down the road.
Everything up ahead is bars and restaurants.
So once you get down by the temple, well,
it starts to look a bit more like the old Hollywood Road that I used to know.
Lots of stops, dealers, galleries.
Aside from the nostalgic walk down Hollywood Road,
one of the reasons why I'm showing you this is because I want to impress upon you the idea that
I've worked in the Chinese antiques world for pretty much my entire adult life.
So I've seen a lot of warehouses.
I've seen a lot of galleries.
I've seen a lot of stock.
I've seen a lot of inventory.
Nothing prepared me for meeting Robert.
When I met Robert, I thought, hey, he likes Chinese antiques.
I like Chinese antiques.
I like this guy.
But I had no idea who he really was.
And it wasn't until I went back and my mother-in-law educated me.
And she said, oh, he's famous.
Everybody knows who he is.
He's a public figure.
He created one of the most beloved, well-known TV shows in all of Hong Kong history.
Household name.
Everybody knows him.
Wow.
So maybe we better stop a minute and talk a little bit about just who Robert actually is.
In more recent times, he's changed his approach.
He's trying new ventures, including broadband, cable, interactive television.
Interactive is the key here.
And he's launching new ventures in the China market.
Our guest today is well-known in the Asian television industry and has so for
north of four decades.
Robert Chua is our guest on the program today.
Welcome, Robert.
Thanks.
He is acknowledged by the public and the TV industry as the pioneer of Hong Kong television.
This week, we meet Robert Chua.
When he was 21, Robert left Singapore for Hong Kong, where he became a broadcasting legend.
For almost four decades, Robert Chua has been involved in creating and bringing to the screen
some of the most popular productions in the history of Hong Kong television and now the mainland.
So Robert's built a pretty impressive career in television.
Privately, he built something very, very different.
Not an archive of sound and video, but really an archive almost of an entire civilization.
Very, very impressive, actually.
I read an article about him, and the author of that article, the writer, had this really
great quote that he opened the article with, and he said something to the fact of like,
and I'm paraphrasing, of course, but he basically said,
Entering Robert's house is like, it's as if
Tsinghua Huang's terracotta army has basically decamped and made its way to Hong Kong
and set up shop in his living room.
So we're about to go see what that's actually like.
I loved this place because I always thought it was so special for that reason,
for all the things that you described, you know,
and there's really no other place on the planet like it, right?
There really isn't, you know.
I'm like, okay, all right.
So
we start off with my bathroom.
I'm having a little problem.
My wife objected to me.
You see all this?
Remember I got this all, these tiles?
Yes.
In my old home, we filled it up very nicely,
but now this new home is a bit larger in the way we designed.
My wife objected to it, objected to me putting it.
So now I've got to find a place to put that.
You see, you like that?
Yeah.
I can see it for real now.
I was looking at photos of this before, and I was like, wow.
So this is the start.
This is my boss.
You have so many nice reverse glass paintings too, Robert.
Yeah.
All right.
You want me to show you my study room?
Look at him.
Look at this one.
Okay.
That's amazing.
This is, this is, wow.
The only thing up the top.
Mostly Han.
All the owls.
I'm still, in a few months time, things will change for sure.
Look at it.
You like this?
Yeah.
You know, I can spend a lifetime going through every single one of these pieces.
Just like, you know, like every single, oh.
Okay.
I've rarely ever seen any of these outside of a museum.
The oboe sets, like, you know, Han players playing the oboe.
Not common.
Very rare.
I actually bought one that I found in Japan.
And that's one of the few that I've ever seen.
You have like two or three of them.
I like this one.
This one is nice, isn't it?
Yeah.
Oh, it's got nice proportions.
Look at this.
Really, look at the glaze on this too.
It's gorgeous.
And I don't think I, you showed me these, but I don't think I saw this one.
We'll see more later.
Then, you see, these are Neolithic small ones.
Have you seen some more Neolithic pots?
Not that small.
That's so cool.
I didn't realize they were so small.
I have a, I have a normal size one of this, but not a, not a mini size one.
But you see, I have a different type of Neolithic pots.
I like this one, for example, you see.
These are museum pieces, you see.
Wow, the cicadas.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That was somebody's barbecue.
Right.
2,000 years ago.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Those are cool too.
Then a dinosaur eggs, elongated ones, and all kinds.
Yeah, dinosaur eggs.
How many dinosaur eggs do you have?
I suppose like a couple hundred or so.
My good friend, Philip Che, gifted this to me.
And it's just like nature, you know, it just got right to the edge here.
This is just made for it.
It's just made for it.
So, so perfect.
It's about over 130 horses here.
You know why?
There's some small horses, you know.
Over 130.
I think at least 100.
It's a small one.
This is so cool.
I mean, look at this one.
Just every single one of them is.
Like this one.
They're all amazing.
You could do a book just of these.
You read that?
Just of these.
Then look at my horses behind you.
Oh, wow.
Look at this one.
And wow.
Wow, these are seriously, look at that.
Musician's collection.
Yeah.
And look at the face on this guy.
Oh, the head on this one is beautiful too.
That's the other thing.
See, the puppies, the head is always big.
It's wrong, you know.
It lacks.
Even if they get it technically right, there's no soul, you know.
And like, these have soul.
This one.
I think, okay.
I don't want to say this, but I also want to talk today.
Let me take you to my so-called guest room,
which has never been a guest room in my old house too.
It hasn't been sorted through.
It is in such a mess.
Because we're not radio, you know, we're just walking.
You got to squeeze in very carefully here.
See some of mine here.
Let me just squeeze in slowly.
Okay.
There you are.
See my dog.
Insane, man.
It's insane.
It is insane.
You know what it is?
It's like lots of pieces like that I've seen in books, you know.
Like, I've seen one of these in a book.
I've seen one of these in a book, you know.
You know, you like the dogs someday?
I like the dogs.
I'm almost speechless.
It's what it is.
I like these two dogs are my favorite though.
These are the face on those two are so, so, so cute.
Ah, man.
Just, you could do a study of every one of these, you know.
A lot of Crossbow ones as well there, you see.
Yeah.
And then.
Oh, and this is your.
This is that set that we were talking about.
This is very cool.
You can.
It's almost identical to the one in the Palace Museum's publication.
Is that right?
You know.
So I did.
I should go and put it there now.
I forgot I put it here.
It doesn't go there.
Maybe I put it in the cabin.
And look at it.
So this is Nguyen Dynasty.
You know, there's not many Nguyen Dynasty figurines that are kind of rare.
They weren't making a lot of them.
So you seem to have more than the average person.
Yeah.
That's nice for recreation and so on.
Yeah.
It's still a bit messy.
A lot of hard stuff here.
It's a bit messy.
This is nice behind the acrylic.
This is nice.
Yeah.
The horse.
One of the problems is that the foot just got broken.
I've got to stick it up.
That's the bottom.
But then again, it's okay to me.
I mean, even the stand probably cost a fortune.
I know.
That's for sure.
I'll show you this in my cupboard.
Wow.
This was the only one.
This is a nice one.
Wow.
Yeah.
I have a few friends who collect these.
They would just kind of drop over seeing this many like this.
This is a common one.
We're not talking imperial pieces.
I'm talking about collectors who love it.
They feel it, you know.
But they're quite pretty though.
Yeah.
It's something like the birds.
I like those, you know.
And colorful.
Colorful.
This is all my food.
In pairs.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
I have a Malaysian friend who collects these.
He would.
Yeah.
Look at it all different.
He had some very good things to say when I showed him yours.
He was like, yeah.
Wow.
It's like how many of these do you have?
I don't know.
I lost count.
Right from China.
Mainly.
Some, you know, go back to China.
So China is better.
In the early days in the late 70s, early 80s and so on.
China's okay.
I mean, you've got like just everything.
You've got teapots.
This is what?
Hat?
Or matchsticks.
Hat, right?
Yeah.
Because you've got the smaller ones for matchsticks, you know.
Snuff bottles.
Brush washers.
Right.
And then this is the Han Dynasty collection.
This is a mirror painting over 100 years old.
All these, I got it in the early 80s.
You know.
Yeah.
I've always been a big fan of reverse black paintings.
These are really, this is very rare now to have this.
Very rare to have this.
Antique paintings.
I like this one.
And this is.
Now I'll try it in here now.
I just found what I have just now.
See what I can do at the end.
This looks like a pear now, it seems.
I didn't realize it.
Looks like a pear.
Is it dinosaur eggs down below?
The dinosaur eggs.
All dinosaur eggs.
Only dinosaur eggs.
Yeah, a little too much.
I've got a couple hundreds.
You saw this, okay?
Yeah.
Is it like that painting?
No, that's very nice.
Those are Liao, right?
Yeah.
Right, Liao.
And this, I just selected this.
In my, you go and see my storeroom, you see much, much more.
You have so many of these, right?
Yeah.
These are nice ones.
Wow, look at that.
This is really nice.
This is like the, you know, the famous bronze flying horse that they unearthed in Gansu.
Yeah.
Same vibe.
And then your Han army.
Yeah, my Han army.
You know, I read that article.
Is it Prestige magazine?
Yeah, yeah.
The way the writer opened it up, like, you know, like the terracotta army had left Xi'an
and like camped in here.
I was like, it's a brilliant quote.
That's exactly what's going on.
Wow, look at the blue.
Wow, the blue is so cool.
You really don't see that very often either.
That's amazing.
You've got so many stick men too.
Yeah.
It's kind of hard.
It's hard to find all of these in decent, you know, but like these have been hard to
find for a couple of years now.
Wow.
These are beautiful.
Maybe already new, I'm sure.
Now this is that one.
Wow, the cups are, wow, the cups are really cool.
I don't think I've seen those cups before, actually.
You've got your Fu Ting.
Yeah.
This morning, I just moved this here.
These are the Han ladies.
Seriously, you have no idea how many pieces you have, right?
Like, how would you, like, counting would take days, right?
Just counting would take days, minimum.
Day or weeks, maybe.
Look at this.
Yeah, yeah.
This is, I mean, how can you not like this?
This is unusual.
First of all, it is blue.
It is not green.
Blue is very abnormal.
I mean, rare.
Yeah.
So I'm very lucky.
This is definitely from Shanxi because you've got a Fo Gui, you've got a Buddha cabin.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a very regional style.
So, some rich Shanxi merchant, you know, took this with him when he went.
Right.
It's a very impressive piece, you know.
Look at all the things you've got going on, too.
I mean, so you've got architecture, you know what I mean?
You've got furniture, you've got people.
You've got multiple views into life at that time.
Some pieces are added on anyway, but most of them are intact.
The cabinet, the kitchen, all these are there.
Yeah, the green ones are probably added on.
The green ones, yeah.
Right.
But this, like, the well, is that a well or?
Yeah.
That's pretty cool, too.
I'll take it.
But this one is more unusual.
All different type, I put it here first.
Actually, Robert, what is this?
I actually don't know what this is.
This might be worthy of researching, you know, the dog, too.
See, at that time, even like this, broken head like this,
we pay a lot of money for it.
They do all the stand.
Then they later used it so much that they couldn't bother to put the stand in.
It could become too damn expensive.
Yeah.
Very nice.
Yeah.
I love these.
I'll just buy my fish.
The fish.
Yes, the fish.
These are board-ending, though.
This guy, too.
Yeah, the hunt.
Well, this pole is crossed.
Right.
There's a set, too.
Like a one set.
Very nice.
Oh, we got some guano back here.
That's right.
Looks like it's from Africa.
Oh, these are African.
These are from the Silk Road period, you know.
This is a nice one I like.
You see this one?
It's being bitten, and you see the expression on the face.
Being bitten.
Ow!
You know, look at the face.
It's really special on this one.
You see the expression on the face?
Yeah, this is what I mean.
The copies, they don't have this.
They can't.
And even when they do, it just lacks the feeling.
Oh, this is gorgeous, though, too.
Yeah, I like this.
This is the expression.
It's being bitten in the ears, you know.
These are gorgeous, though, too, Robert.
Look at the bricks.
These are really, really nice.
All I have in the bathroom could be put up like this, too.
It has to be timed.
We need to put it up.
It becomes much better.
Yeah, you need to make scans, as well.
This one is the most expensive.
I bought this.
Very nice.
Look at the face.
This is one of the most expensive pieces I bought.
I haven't got the box yet.
It's missing somewhere.
I'm moving.
Still recovering some of the boxes.
I like your fat lady, though.
That's a nice one, yeah.
Of course you have, too.
And I want, too.
I was like, that's rare.
Yeah.
Not what you do.
Hi.
Dennis?
Yeah.
Are you there?
Dennis is helping us.
My friend Roger is here.
Okay, just come and look.
I'll be working slowly.
More, you never say pots.
More hot pots.
More horses.
More warriors.
More lambacookas.
Dennis is a great person.
He helped me a lot.
Roger, my friend.
Let's hear some of the things.
I wish I could.
Yeah.
Let's see what we have.
All this.
A lot of sticks, man.
And this one, very unusual.
Yeah.
Every one of these is just a study in itself.
Drastic.
And I got all of these.
You've got so many.
Some funerary jars.
My gosh.
Do you have any of these?
Well, I had one and I sold it.
That's pretty.
One hit missing though.
Yeah, a little damage is not a bad thing.
Yeah.
A little damage is always a good thing.
I mean, there's got to be...
How many of these do you think you got, Robert?
I did a guess.
You look beautiful.
I mean, there's got to be at least, what?
30?
I suppose so.
You know?
I suppose so.
30 plus.
I didn't know I had that many myself.
You might find more too.
That's the crazy thing.
Have a look at it.
See?
You look at it.
You look at it here.
He's sending them, look.
Dennis, he's putting them together.
Some of them can't stand.
They don't stand them, you know.
Get out of the way.
You must come and show that.
You must show that.
He's working so hard putting together.
He's really working hard.
Right.
Yeah.
Thank you, Dennis.
Thank you.
The things are moving in soon, later today.
Hopefully, the other person, his car is under repair.
The truck.
Hopefully, get ready to come.
You see a lot over there.
My dogs, everything, you know.
I want to look at every single piece.
I mean, every single piece is unique.
My goodness.
I've seen these, you know.
I've seen, you see them in the museums.
This is the money tree.
Yeah.
The base for the money tree.
You know?
And like, I don't even know what that is.
That's, yeah.
I have no idea what that is.
I actually have never.
It could be a money tree, too, isn't it?
That's a money tree base?
Yeah, it could be.
I mean, that thing is just wild.
The money tree with a lion and something with a duck, you know, on top.
I mean, you know.
This one is unusual, this three-piece, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm sure it exists somewhere in some museum, but I haven't seen anything like it.
This is quite cool, too.
But actually, what is it?
It's a house.
Right.
It's missing the base, right?
Which is probably somewhere around here.
You don't have photos of everything, either.
No, I don't have.
We're going to take some photos in a while.
I definitely want to, like, you know, like, take some photos of that.
And I mean.
Hold on.
What is he doing?
What is this piece doing here?
I don't know what period it is, you see.
People got started thinking about this.
Oh, so this is two people, right?
Two people.
Yeah.
You can see this face is gone.
I don't know what happened.
You know what it is.
I have seen something like this.
Is it damaged?
Or what happened?
Is it a face?
Can you see the face?
Is that?
Or what happened?
Yeah, I think something.
I think it's probably something's fallen off, you see.
Because look how smooth this is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It doesn't match with the rest.
It's come off.
It must have.
Looks like it's supposed to be a face.
Yeah, I have seen this somewhere, though.
Some museum talking about.
Because the way they described it was sitting on a sled-like object.
Yeah.
I remember thinking, what?
What is a sled-like object?
The trouble is, I don't know why.
Is it done on purpose?
You know, it's almost like a face, in a way.
Yeah.
You know, it looks like a face.
I mean, if it was a later piece and it was done on purpose, I would be like, yeah.
But not for an earlier piece.
But it's definitely, yeah.
Yeah, this is worth studying, you see, what I think it is.
But it should be, this piece should be around Han, though.
Yeah, I think so.
Definitely somewhere around Han.
Yeah, what is this?
Good to study.
Every piece in here is good to study, though, Robert.
Yeah, Robert, I'm always just.
You know, this.
Let me find the Olympic piece.
But these are new stuff, this one.
These, the Sherwani.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to give it away.
There are too many of this, you know.
Yeah, I have a million questions I want to ask you.
Can't ask you everything.
But, like, how the heck did you even get started doing this?
It does come naturally to me.
And I don't remember.
You started, like, it's been, how many years has it been?
I think I've been collecting about 40 years, at least, I think.
Yeah, that's a long time.
40, 50 years.
And you said, you said your wife collects.
Yeah, she loves more textile.
We got lots of embroidery.
She got lots of them, frankly.
And when we go to Beijing in the 1970s, 1980s,
she was sitting in the antique shop going through all embroidery.
At that time, there was so much available.
And she was sitting there slowly picking up.
Here we got, we got lotus shoes, we got embroidery.
A lot of them, beautiful purses, you know.
So, okay, so when you were back in Hong Kong
and you were buying stuff on Hollywood Road, like,
I'm just, I'm still trying to process, like, how much stuff you have.
So I'm just thinking, like, did you, were you just like,
ah, I'll just take all of it?
Not really, you know.
But if I liked a lot, I just say, can I have most of them?
You know, good deal.
I'll just take them.
And often I do, and I don't know.
I just forgot I got them until now when I move homes.
I got shocked, you know.
I see things that I didn't realize I got it.
And I love it.
Some of them are so beautiful.
I was on, last time I was here, like a month ago or something,
I was on Hollywood Road and I was talking to one of the dealers.
I forget which one, but it was like, ah, you know,
I was at such and such gallery over here.
And then we got to talking about you.
And he was like, of course, everybody knows Robert Schwab.
And I said, you know, he could start his own Hollywood Road,
like, completely start his own Hollywood Road.
And like, we weren't really joking.
We were kind of serious.
And he was, yeah, basically, yes, he could just start his own Hollywood Road.
He has that many pieces.
You have more pieces than most museums.
Not really, I'm sure.
But I mean, for a small museum, yes.
But these type of pieces, I think there are plenty of museums
that do not have anywhere near the size of your collection.
It's true.
When we go to China, the small city museum and so on.
Sure.
I'm sure I have much more than that.
I think you underestimate.
I mean, I've been to so many museums.
Of course, the collection rotates and stuff.
But I think you underestimate how much stuff you have.
Maybe.
Let's talk about moving, because you moved.
That was just, wow.
After 30 years in one home, I moved.
Lots.
And how long did it take?
Wow.
I think I'm going to set Hong Kong moving record.
The days the mover moved.
The mover tells me that when he moves anybody's home,
usually it's one full day, a couple, three, 12 days, one day.
At most, two days.
Right now, I think move perhaps maybe nearly eight to 10 days.
That means it's about 30, 40 moves already.
But then you're still moving, too.
I'm still moving towards the end now.
So the whole process has been more than two months?
It's been a while, right?
Yeah, got nearly two months.
But moving was the last month or so.
That means moving every few days.
We moved a whole truck of things here.
We need time to put them in place.
I just underestimated what I need.
Yeah.
I think everybody has underestimated it.
But I mean, how did you...
Unpacking one of those cabinets must have taken you forever.
Take everyone down and then pack it.
Oh, my helper, Rose, was fantastic.
She packed them just like each one, each pieces.
They use the food wrapper thing.
This is sleeping in to keep them safe from each one.
She is fantastic.
She's still working now in her old home, as we talked.
But as we talked, there was at least three people doing something, right?
As we saw, you sent me the video of you guys moving that horse, the Han horse.
Yeah, that was crazy.
That was crazy.
At what point did you realize that you're on a whole other level,
perhaps in a different universe than most collectors?
From you, you told me that I'm just, to me, an ordinary collector
who loves what I buy.
Unlike many collectors, when I collect, I like the beauty of the piece of work.
And the investment is never in my mind that
if I pay this much, how much will I get at the end of the day?
Never in my mind do I think of the end.
I only think that I will love it.
I will enjoy it, that's it.
So as it goes, I'm lucky many pieces do depreciate over time.
Of course, some do not.
And it doesn't matter to me at all.
But I just love them and just buy what I like.
And usually when I look at a group of items, usually people buy one or two pieces.
When I see them, I like it.
I say, can I own?
Of course, I ask, give me a better deal, that's all.
But I do it happily because to finish it all, there you go.
And I love it.
It's funny.
I mean, like when you were showing some people online some of your pieces
and they didn't have any understanding of what you were doing.
So they saw something they had never seen before.
And they just assumed that, oh, that piece is a fake.
And it's like, it's just so far beyond what they have ever seen that
they weren't able to comprehend that at that time.
And people often say, why don't you spend that much money buying 10, 20 pieces
and buy one quality pieces?
To me, I appreciate that 20, 30 pieces to one.
Because 20, 30 pieces give me more joy than one piece that may not represent.
I don't know how to say, but I buy not because I want a lot, just cheap.
Because when I buy, I often do like to share with friends.
And as I get them, I can afford to give to friends.
Whereas unlike the real collectors, they buy tens of thousands, million dollars.
They can't give to anybody.
For me, I'm able to give to any friends I like.
From a lot of collection, it's not more than one.
I got a few.
I'm happy to give them away.
We should enjoy giving something the other party loves.
But you also have some really rare pieces in here too.
I mean, I've seen quite a few pieces.
We were talking off camera about the Pagoda.
That is a very rare piece.
So you've managed to do both.
Just because I love something, it's not because it's going to be rare
or because it's very, very expensive.
I just buy it because I like it.
Also, I think in some regards, what you've done is a bit like,
one person can go to some country and stay in a five-star hotel for one week and go around.
Okay.
And you'll have an experience.
You've said, I'm going to go move to that place and live there for two years
on the ground and experience it every day, like the real thing.
And that's kind of what you've done.
I mean, seriously, do you realize how many pieces you've handled?
And you have.
You are one of the few people in the entire planet who has seen and handled this many pieces.
Also, from a variety of places too.
Because remember, some of those dealers kind of were sticking in one area and had some sources.
So they only handled that many types of pieces.
You've handled it all.
So that is really, really rare.
Really, really rare.
All different items that they specialize in.
I've got one dealer, I've got lots of dealers.
That's an understatement.
Hundreds of them.
What happens to all this stuff in the future though?
Because you're not going to live forever.
I'm not going to live forever.
None of us are living to get forever.
Unfortunately.
You have a plan.
Are you going to start a museum?
I mean, you can 100% start a museum.
I'm not kidding.
You underestimate how many pieces you have.
There are a lot of museums that don't have as many pieces of these sort of things.
So I don't know.
What's in your mind?
No.
My next plan at the moment, I'm going to start a museum restaurant, that kind, on this world.
And that's a good way because I can share those with people.
And I will donate whatever people buy from the restaurant.
It's a charity.
Part of it, I give some for myself.
And it's promoting culture.
So this restaurant that we're planning, I'm working on it right now.
Now, people, what they call, they take pictures.
I'm not sure of the Western culture.
I think I'm supposed to do that, the Western culture.
Hong Kong, China, very popular.
Where can you go to a restaurant somewhere where you can take a picture with a dinosaur egg
or a piece of antique?
In a museum, you only see that from afar.
You see, I've got some terracotta, they're 2,000-year-old soldiers.
You can even have it.
You can even touch it, take a picture of it.
That is okay.
So, and it's a restaurant.
We're very, very Chinese.
Totally sell Chinese food.
Get in quality to Michelin chef to help me curate the food and the drinks and so on.
We're so confident because China has very good wine.
Liquor.
So, we only serve Chinese liquor, no Western liquor.
So, to make this a totally Chinese theme, people come in, will experience the Chinese
culture, Chinese history, and just have a good experience.
That's a great idea.
Thank you.
Let me, before we wrap up, let me ask you two personal questions completely unrelated
to antiques.
So, the first one would be, you've been married like 50 years, right?
Almost 52 years.
Okay.
So, what is the secret to a long marriage?
Well, I have a wise wife.
Listen to her.
It's my success.
Now, as a person, I suppose, without her, I would not be what I am today.
I may very artistically do crazy things, go out and drink, do this and that, no saving
nothing.
But with a good wife, she looks after you well, advises you well.
And so, where I am today is because my wife guided me very wisely, keep me in place, doing
the right things, investing well.
And she happened to share my passion of collecting antiques.
So, therefore, there was never a time that she said, no, stop buying antiques.
We both go and buy what we like.
We both share most of them.
And we live happily after.
All of us are taking notes on the happy marriage, like, okay, what do I do next?
Definitely, I was going to ask you just because it's just very cool.
You were friends with Bruce Lee.
I mean, what was that like?
I mean, he's quite an iconic Hong Kong figure too.
Yes, we became friends because he came to Hong Kong.
I put him on to my show, Enjoy Yourself Tonight show, which was the most popular program,
hit show.
And we became friends.
Now, after he's gone, his friends contact me and they're happy to meet me anyways.
That's why I met a few friends.
I spoke in Tokyo once to the Bruce Lee friends.
They were even in Europe, in Cannes.
They fly all the way to Cannes to meet me, to hear stories about Bruce, London.
Also, Bruce has got very good, loyal, passionate friends.
And they just love hearing about Bruce.
And I'm close to him during the time he was in Hong Kong during his career.
Robert, I want to thank you.
I mean, I know people don't get a chance to come here.
So I feel very grateful that you allowed me to come into your home.
Thank you for doing this too.
For people who love Chinese antiques, what you've done is kind of special.
So I want to thank you for doing that as well.
And I really mean that.
What a day.
All right.
Thank you, Robert.
My pleasure.
The one thing I really love about Hong Kong is,
it's not just all hustle and bustle and city.
Really, just within minutes, you can be in the mountains or at the ocean.
And that's what makes it a really special city.
So it's the next day.
I probably should have done a follow-up yesterday.
But wow, I kind of went home after our dinner and just crashed because it was a long day.
I spent hours just looking at antiques and filming and discovering new pieces.
Everywhere I looked, I found a new piece.
It was taking me a while to process it all.
But I'm glad you could come along for the ride.
And I hope you enjoyed it.
I really wanted you to be able to have a bit of an exclusive peek
into a very secret world that, honestly, few people ever get to see.
And so I hope I was able to do that for you.
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