"Martha Stewart questioned Amy Griffin a lot harder than Oprah did" - Billy Bush
Jul 24, 2026
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Martha Stewart questioned Amy a lot harder than Oprah or anyone else on that book tour did.
Amy's very giving. She's very relaxed with Martha. Martha is all over her, but Amy's kind of
wanting to give her good answers. You get that feeling she's kind of like,
psyched to be sitting there with the legendary Martha Stewart.
She says about the alleged violent grapes in middle school,
I believe it started around when I was 12. It's very much explicitly 12 in the book.
Martha says you didn't tell anybody, you know, maybe even on the upper end at 16.
Why? She said it happened only on school grounds, only in the school bathroom.
Where's the locker room, the bleachers under the bleachers, the classroom,
the tennis center, which was the last one. She's only in the bathroom, she said to Martha.
On the day that I went in, she said, for her MDMA session and said,
I know I have a lot of sexual trauma. She, the facilitator, who in the book is Olivia,
took notes for me, could have sworn in the book that when it was over, John, her husband gave her
a beautiful blue journal. And that's where she started to take her notes.
And then she told Martha she spent eight hours in the MDMA session. I got to tell you,
I took 120 milligrams. That's a lot. I had a profound experience during MDMA therapy.
And it was two hours and 45 minutes. Let's say double that. But I've never,
eight hours. I mean, psilocybin journeys don't take eight hours.

