We Have A LEGEND In The Building!

Hey, how's it going out there everyone welcome to another addicted fishing podcast I'm kind of flying solo tonight marlin and jordan are on assignment, but i've got slackers exactly That's what I say. They're having all the fun Uh, I I came in hot from the buoy 10 rodeo boat show fishing slaughter fest, uh today to get in here to make sure That we get a story of a couple or excuse a couple We get a story of a very iconic brand in the northwest that's been around forever and it started in the living room We've got brad's fish killer fishing gear In here today. Hi everybody. Yep. We got brad show more and scott call Welcome. Yeah. No, we want to get your guys a story you guys have I mean shoot I can't imagine how many poor salmon rue the day Uh hearing the word brad's because let's think about it all the super baits the killer fish I mean you guys have got some insane quality products not to mention all the terminal tackle Beads and you guys do a lot of other tackle In a lot of other industries that a lot of the fishing guys salmon guys don't even know about yeah, we do Yeah, which which i've gone into your guys's warehouse. Yeah surprises me and beads too. That's right I mean, there's a lot of different things there too. But uh, yeah, I wanted to get your guys's kind of take on uh, On basically like how in the world did uh, did this come from? What was it tie and sturgeon leaders? Started out. Yep By hand with uh, you and joanne, right? Yes. I tie a thousand hooks a day before I go to bed Yep go on vacation with my kids and they're a thousand hooks before they go fishing so A thousand sturgeon leaders a day a day. We also run the table tie hooks. We can go fishing or go play. Yeah every day So there was that much sturgeon fishing back then or it was crazy We took we took thousands of sturgeon rigs. Will you tie in those with mono or dacron dacron? Yeah still does to this day. He's got a five gallon bucket You go to his house today right next to his easy chairs Got a five gallon bucket sitting there eight buckets for it now waiting for packaging So do you are you tying the ones that we see on the shelves now? Yes Oh my goodness still how long how long ago was that not to date anybody 30 years ago 30 years ago so it started out sturgeon leaders and it Like I said the bucket a thousand. I I can't believe that because like we know what the sturgeon fisheries are now these days Yes, a whole different deal. But back then fred myers carried them all g.i. joe's carried them all by market them all Lots of stores carried them because they're such a big fishery Right. I mean, yeah, I mean well, I can remember even just 20 years ago. It'd be in you know seven days a week and Hey everybody that was clint's uh cell phone who chastised us for making sure that our our phones were off and that we and Now we have taking care of business This is a good good song, you know Yeah, i'm so disappointed in him right now, but I think he just took our business and turned it off. Is that true? We should just take care of business and fire him anyways back to I don't even know if you're gonna be able to save that clint or anything But anyways back to brad. So a thousand a day. You're still tying them still timing it. What was the next product? Actually, it was mooching rig still tying leaders and I tied two rigs eight leaders to a package And then uh mooching ridge both both fixed tie and slip tie yes, yeah and the buyer for g.i.joe's called me he wanted me to make a Wobbler, I bought a company called best the west You want to make a what make a wobbler? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah He had a company called best the west about about the guy out and we started making the lures from there the best of the west and so on those were your Those were your brads Yep, the round was okay And that was for g.i.joe's right? Yeah, just correct. Yeah So I went from prod. So and but what what's happened to wobbler fishing though? It's back I guess it is kind of flying off our shelves right now. It's like crazy. Yeah You know, we hadn't put a wobbler order in for a while and uh watching these wobblers go out right now But I mean you think about it. It's uh, it's good conditions There's decent flows and people aren't wanting to spend money on gas and drive all around so a lot of people are sitting on anchor and they've got their spots and You know, I actually kind of miss it. I haven't wobbler fished in a while I think last time I did it was with marlin off the beach maybe a year ago. So um, which I really enjoy I mean It's a lot of fun plucking off the beach with uh with a three wobbler setup But a lot of people right now are uh, yeah Are just sticking close to home and not spending the money on gas and you know doing their wobbler thing. Yeah There's some diehards. There's some real diehard wobbler fishermen Not to mention your name rick grazer, but yeah Well not to get off a tangent but like yeah, I mean buoy 10 fishery We've had record setting catches for three days in a row, but only 82 of the effort Wow, so it's kind of funny. You're right. People are staying home while we're fishing So those are those round those were those round rot wobblers and so we had sturgeon leaders hooching leaders wobblers, then what What came next then? um Thighs mirror a version of a wiggle word. Oh the wiggler. Duh. Yeah the uh brad's wiggler i'm trying to think if that was my I'd say that that was probably my first like Really? I mean because besides sturgeon leaders, of course, like that was my first, you know Yeah, usually I sold hooks and stuff like that along the way I remember it was brad repellent bought storm out storm owned wiggle wart brand And repellent dropped Wiggle warts they were gonna they were gonna quit making them what why? Yeah, I mean, do you know do you know why I don't know why they told they told the Stores in the northwest. Yeah, joe's called me and told me they're gonna make them. It's no way no way I call I call the normark and asked me. Yeah, we're gonna make them No, so enough. We're gonna they're a bass market company. They go out for bass. Well, they're a faint wiggler That's my favorite bass crankbait. I don't care. I'm the newbie bass guy, but they work really good And I know i'm familiar with them I still don't know if I believed it because why why he'd let the number one science dealer go Family would go in the northwest at that time, right, you know So I called I called a man a wholesaler big big huge wholesaler in northwest and had him call it Or mark and they told the same thing. They're not gonna make any more So I made it. I didn't yeah, I was gonna make it but nobody else You know, well thank heavens you did and divers at the same time then yeah Because I got rid of those hot and tots and yeah So divers came out at the same time. Yep Yeah, I can't imagine how many I can't imagine I've probably put a couple of your kids through college buying wigglers over the years. I can tell you that So what came next so wigglers then what? What did you do next? We probably did the Cup plugs next to me probably a super bait, right? Probably super baits. I think so super baits were before killer fish as i'm trying to figure out which one's which it's real close I feel like I feel like it probably was killer. I think you're probably right. It was close real close but that's when like Yeah, we're all trying to figure it out here. I'm trying to remember but I want to say it was killer fish because super baits were when Came out just before the 360 stuff really got crazy over here in southwatch just before though Yeah about three years like perfect timing. Yeah, it was. Yeah And I think we were using killer fish long before that Not long before that but a few years before that you were right Might be it's before my time with brad Yeah I think he's right. Yeah, because I remember when killer fish came on the market is like Oh, it's another salmon plug. But then we all like quickly realized it's like oh It's another salmon plug that actually works and is consistent and catches a lot of fish Made some killer colors and definitely, uh, yeah, I mean, yeah, let's just say they worked really well They got the guides involved. They had six different guys. We'd work with us and that and they helped us design that to narrow down yeah, you were telling me like you were telling me like you guys were Heat gunning and bending the plugs and and trying to find like the perfect Yeah, so how much r&d does go into some of these? Well right now you put what three years in that, uh flasher Yeah, some products are definitely a lot more because they're more complex. Um, some are easier some are tougher It just depends on on what it is. But um, yeah, if you can get through and you know, three or four dev cycles I think you're doing pretty good I guess it's quite a challenge. I know even like on our side when we try to like Sample stuff or test stuff And shoot what we were talking even before the podcast It's like you only get like a couple months out of the year when that's to test it Yeah or that kind of thing is going and then you gotta like set up for next year and you gotta like think way ahead And time it and anticipate the demand and yeah, there's a lot that goes into it for sure But by the time you go to mold and you come out with it You want to make sure that you've got the right product, right? fishery tell for that to even happen to The mold costs are pretty high. Don't you want to do a waste of mold? they are expensive and you know in the brand too you just Names behind it. You want to make sure that you've got the right product and it's well tested and Yeah, in fact you guys help us test quite a bit of stuff. And yeah, we appreciate all your help there, too well, let's be honest like if it kills fish like You use it we kind of want to use that yeah So killer fish then the super baits. Yeah, then the super baits and let's be honest like the super baits are yeah, let's I mean killer We say about the super bait to be killer fish other than the fact that you guys started with the cup plug And the original yeah, there's two and he had the mini cup plug and then the kcp. Yep I mean like what was the process on all that? I mean like how did that? I mean really just come to be in the idea of it. I mean, well a lot of places are catching fish on smaller baits Like, you know cattle fish kind of stuff So we had to come out with a smaller bait the mini the mini was to cover that area where they have smaller baits And the kokanee's the guys fishermen for kokanee were begging us to make that kokanee for years. So we got a lot of input from Guides and customers alike on that one asking us for that And it was a ready ready ready feed for the industry because everybody's ready for it They wanted it, you know, so it's really easy for us to To make them canoe that sales sales be covered for that. Yeah, it seems like to like I mean kokanee fishing I feel like it kind of gets really exciting and then it kind of goes away It kind of ebbs and flows. I kind of think it just depends on like the year at least in this area I mean like let's we we get we got to you know, when you guys are making products You know I'm, we're stuck in our bubble here in southwest, you know, but you guys still doing tons of kokanee sales They're probably over in wyoming. They are yes, you know all those other big reservoirs california I mean and trying to convince people that the kokanee cut plugs work for salmon Oh, they do because they're named kokanee cut plugs. So people read the label and say only for kokanee It's pretty hot guys. So last three years. Yeah, the biggest yeah salmon We caught have all been on the kokanee cut plug midday. Yes, they're great when they're tough when they're tough Yeah, just that smaller profile makes a huge difference What's your favorite kokanee cut plug color? I'm, just curious pink magic pink magic at least with lakes here. What about for salmon for salmon? Like let's let's try let's try to dispel this right now. So a bunch of people go out and get kcps and actually try them Well, you like the red glow for trout too. I like red glow for trout. It's really good for kokanee Uh, but I don't know. I got a couple favorites. I don't know the names of them. Was it Fireballs at one of them Fireballs are good fatal attractions. Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say one of my favorites because it's got so many different colors I do what's that one? I do really well with that that pink rainbow one. What's that called? sunsets sunrise um Uh pink rainbow looking thing. We did really well during with Pink rainbow you're are you talking about dusky? Yeah dusky. That's a hot one. Yeah, I did very well. Yeah, we're getting lost in colors already I know They're all good Well, let's I mean the reality is too. It's about the action. Yeah, right. Seahawk was great this year Seahawk was really hot. It was a good one. Seahawks always a good one. Yeah blue and chrome can't go wrong But it's always about the action and the bait and the bait you can put inside of them. I mean to me like when To me like the brad super bait like when we were fishing what we affectionately call the dead zone You know before 360s came out Well, not before the 360s came out before they got popular down here we had a stretch of river that During the fall twenty thousand thirty thousand Fish would go through a day And no one could catch them good luck until until we started towing around You know a brad super bait stuffed with tuna, you know behind a flasher and now going from you know changing that whole fishery from a dead zone to like probably one of the most productive chinook fisheries in the Northwest like I always tell people I catch more fish, you know in that dead zone when I refer to the dead zone guys that's like kind of that area from like woodland up to bonneville dam and You know, the reality is is like I catch more fish. I catch more chinook. I don't know about this year I gotta kind of be quiet with this year, but then but most years I catch more chinook in that dead zone than I do at buoy 10 and it's because When we figured out that if you took a brad's original super bait and you stuffed it with tuna And you had the right combination of action and bait Like key on keying on the bait like you actually could get those fish to bite. Yep I mean it was the most revolutionary like kind of changing thing. I feel like out of And like I said, it was I don't feel like it was just the flasher I feel like you had to have like the combination the flasher and the bait. Oh, it is that scent trail is a real deal Yeah, people try and downplay the scent trail sometimes but no that scent trail is is everything How often does it happen where you you pick up a super bait you just rebate it and put it back down and it goes off no Happens a lot. So I mean scent is Is a huge part of the equation. It has great action, too I mean, yeah, and then but then like I said just trying to get a tough fish to bite 72 degree water like you've got to entice them a little bit more and now there's thousands of boats that fish this fishery that Existed forever, but no one figured it out until until that brad super bait came along and now it's kind of it's changing there's different flashers and different baits that still work, but at the end of the day like When it gets tough like those are the ones that people break Brad super bait originals go play and same with the minis and and the kcps Especially when there's a lot of people around so it's pretty Pretty crazy and then back to that bait and scent thing. I mean, you know You know, we don't talk a lot about You know what we put in there because it's just something right? I mean like everyone has their favorite um, you know canned tuna recipe or herring or anchovy or something, but just that inclusion of bait like I never found the magic Silver bullet for mine. I'm sure you guys have probably heard some over the years, but I haven't found it. Yeah, we've heard some good stuff um, but for me personally whether i'm fishing for kokanee or salmon or You know anything else for that matter? My base is tuna You know, it's an oily fish. Yeah, what's the strangest things you guys have heard and put in those um Jimmy dean honey sausage, I think is it raw or cooked? Raw, jimmy dean honey sauce right popper for uh, lake trout mackinac. Oh, I could see that those big oily freaking gross Turkeys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No like trying to think like no goldfish or anything like that Haven't heard goldfish. No, but the tail of a sardine sticking out the back of a super bait is pretty dang sexy anchovy Sardine or anchovies. Yeah sticking out. Yeah Yeah out in the ocean. I always take like an anchovy I squish it between and get that back meat and then you see this perfect little strip You just set it right in an original close it and it's like it's like made for it It does I think the tail sticking out of that thing and just kill them. I don't know about the tail sticking out Damn it sleeping on that It works well Yeah up in the sound they do that quite a bit and Yeah, it's something that works really well. We get a lot of feedback on that actually people say Oh, keep it quiet. Keep it quiet. But no, I mean you hear it from enough people. It's it's not quiet Everybody knows it. So What about eggs and stuff? Do you hear about like people putting salmon eggs and stuff inside? Oh, yeah. Yeah eggs and uh, Crawfish prawn crawfish prawn coon shrimp shrimp. Yep a mix. Um, yeah another good one is uh You know people that keep their their egg juice left over from the day and then mix that in the tuna Oh, yeah, I can see that. Yeah, so that milks out and gets a good scent trail so there's so many different things you can put in there, I mean it's One of the other things I put in a lot is krill because you know, it's kind of the bottom of the food chain Just about everything eats krill. So, um, yeah krill is a good one But there's so many different things you can add in there. I mean from sardine to herring to you know The addicted slammer which you know, it's one of your favorites the salmon slammer That one that we actually yeah, we would yeah, it seems like that I always wanted to put something but man I can tell you what like I thought you guys were going to tell us like I don't know Some like type of vegetable or something like crazy, you know what I mean? Like because there's fishermen out there that are always like You know like shark fin or something. Yeah, probably illegal I haven't heard that i've heard. Uh Like bread like uh, like white bread um Yeah, like wonder bread or something Which is goofy. Um, I mean bacon I've heard i've heard of bacon too. It said a couple times. Yeah blended Turkey You're not in this podcast marlin, so i'm just throwing that out there You sound good. I'll keep going. You sound no one's hearing what you're saying Marlon's not on assignment. He's sitting in the studio. Actually. He's just made me do this podcast No, like yeah, i'm not good. Yeah. Yeah, what's the strangest thing that you put in there? I would play i've played with the eggs before that's why I said the eggs but nothing too crazy I'd always use the tuna as a base and then I would throw a lot of like the egg curing chemicals and like different Chemicals you get at different markets and like trying to trying to find the magic powder, you know, but I mean Yeah, right as I'm saying I never found that one powder That worked. I mean, I definitely think having tuna with something like the addictive blender Kind of upped your game. I definitely saw a difference in that But like nothing that you know Yeah, nothing. That was just the silver bullet. Yeah, no every time we go on the boat brad says did you bring the addicted salmon blend? That's the silver bullet for you then my favorites Sweet Well, we know what's in it. It's good. That's true. You know, what's in it, too What are your thoughts on the garlic thing? Oh, yeah, he's eating garlic too like garlic certain times a year Certain certain times a year it is when they want it they want it But when they don't exactly they just turn on they want it. They want it. It's four to one Yeah, like when you're wrapping like brad's killer fish plugs with sardine wraps and herring wraps. It is four to one But when they don't want it, they don't want it. Yeah, it's definitely times a year Yeah, another popular one is salt the further you move up river the more salt people add to their tuna Um way up some people are even like a can of salt to a can of tuna A can of salt. Yeah, so you take your tuna fish can and yeah fill it and yeah So I was playing I played a lot of salt when I said the chemicals I definitely did load it up with salt but like some of the egg carrying stuff, but that's good to know And we're taking care of business again. I thought we already took care of business, but apparently we didn't take care of business Is this a joke lint? like do you We're doing we're doing serious We're having a very serious discussion with two very special guests and One very special guest brent is clint is and clint is just blowing the whole thing up I apologize out there to podcast land be sure to comment below how much clint sucks Or where we should stick his cell phone so we don't hear it. How about that? What I've done good with is uh malts, uh sugar from the beer makers Oh malt sugar Really yeah, but I've never heard that one. It really was that interesting. Yeah When you're in your tuna up you get that official by the quick ticket and higher you're up up higher It works really well that's sweeter Interesting something different It's like it's like he said though cameron said one day what they want one day They don't it's kind of same thing with this when they want they want it That's why I think it's important to bring a couple different mixes with you, you know Just like you bring you know your fish in morgan city how many acres you got? You know rarely you have a single egg here. So same thing with the tuna we'll bring different different cures along and and see which one's working better and Mix it out and you know all comes down to letting the fish tell you what they want And not trying to dictate to the fish Well, it's just so easy to do like with the with the super baits like at the end of the day Like that's just I mean, yeah, you can sit there and just throw out the world at it I mean, they're super easy to clean and bait up and all that good stuff, but you're saying the inclusion of bait Uh, yeah, i'm in that boat, too I'm trying to think here what else sent trail for sure. Um and the colors of the super baits I mean, let's be honest. There's nobody else out there that matches the colors. I mean, they just they pop they shine They're uh, yeah, they're incredible So we're really fortunate to have the color selection that we have For sure Yeah, well, they don't have bait. So The finest form of flattery right and no bait that that i'm i'm out of that discussion what came next what's a super baits so Then what's it been now? Uh next after that It's got to be the flasher, right? Yeah, we'll talk about the flasher Yeah, it's taken a while. It's been actually more than three years. I think it's closer to five. Um, yeah, chris turvey developed it. Um, his original concept and uh We had some different designs we went through tested and actually quite a bit of testing several years of testing uh to get the right design uh, and finally came up with that and uh went production, uh late last year and and broke out for the show season and Yeah, there's nine colors in that and yeah, we're excited about that We're getting some really good reports from down in buoy 10 and um with the built-in release It makes a big difference and the fact that it's adjustable so we can adjust it down from You know different speeds if you're fishing really slow water You can get it to thump when other flashers don't so that makes a difference I know in uh in slack tides a lot of people are fishing that second hole and just kind of holding and letting the current do the thump and i'm working really well down at buoy 10, so And springer season worked well, too So built-in release is adjustable. That's not something you see in a lot of flashers now So that's like what the evolution if you will Yeah, I know that's what you guys are calling it. Um, what uh, what's next? What is next? Huh? What's next? What do you have in your bag anything? I know No, what's next Are you guys still focused just on like new Like just new concept designs or new colors. I mean what else what else I mean? No, I mean always new colors, right? You're always trying to come out with uh with a better color, um, but uh, definitely interested in new concepts Yeah, we've got we got a couple concepts on the drawing table right now. We're working with and and testing out um You know, you gotta you gotta keep innovating. It's it's Innovator Or die in this industry. So you got to keep innovating. So we try hard to keep innovating and come out with different stuff um People that that hit us up from time to time and say hey, I got something that you know You've got the name and i've got the product. So here take a look at this and you know, we're always open to that and Sit down talk with people. In fact at a meeting last week with a guy, uh talking about a product, uh, just like that. So, um, yeah, it's something we're always working on and and trying to come up with new stuff and exciting stuff and you guys do a great job of testing it and fishing it for us and All that so we get a lot of great input from uh from the addicted The addicted guys and we really appreciate that Dang it guys. I tried I tried to get it out of them. I wanted to know Yeah, I wanted to know I wanted to know Was there anything else anything else you want to add brad or no, I think it's See, it's good where you see it's going you're still out there fishing and i'm so efficient trying i'm having fun I want to thank you all the guys out there buying my product and I really appreciate it Yeah, I appreciate all your support for sure. Yes very much. Yeah Awesome guys. Well, thanks for tuning in We have got a live feed to do and we appreciate you guys coming in Don't forget if you are out there in the store give the brads super bait to try they use real bait Killer fish all that good stuff. I can't believe I can't thank you guys enough for making this product and developing it because honestly it makes my life and uh My job as a guy a whole lot easier. Thank you. I appreciate it. Awesome Well, we'll see you guys next time you bet. Thanks a lot. Yep. Take care