The "Trans Terroristic Movement" is DANGEROUS

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Jul 9, 2026
Megyn Kelly is joined by Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist, and Sohrab Ahmari, US Editor of Unherd, to discuss that assassination culture on the rise on the left, the "trans terroristic movement" in America, the way some went a little crazy after witnessing Charlie Kirk's assassination, and more.
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I know you guys have been covering to some extent
what's happening out in Provo.
And Sean, that is, it's like,
the whole thing is just so chilling.
You know, it's like, we all cover legal cases all the time.
We cover crime.
And this one is just,
it just has so many different layers to it
because it was our friend, it was Charlie.
Everyone knew him.
Even the audience listening now
felt very much like they knew him.
He was a regular guest on this program.
And it is tough to get immediately past questions like,
why wasn't the roof patrolled?
You know, it's not to take anything away
from the actual killer, but it's just,
you know, conservatives are being killed
and they're being threatened.
And these crazy leftists are celebrating it.
And you think about the next one
and the next one after that,
and this assassination culture
that's taking too many of ours.
And, you know, you don't want to see it take anybody,
but how we shore up the protection around our public figures
like Charlie, who was literally irreplaceable,
is obviously on the mind of many.
Your thoughts on all of it.
Yeah, and I'm so glad you brought that up
because I feel like it's gotten lost
in a lot of the, you know,
examining all the details and the trial and everything.
Sorever and I were talking about this off camera
before the show and, you know,
talking about threats we have to deal with.
And to me, it's absolutely unconscionable
and it's not talked about nearly enough
that if you were a Christian,
if you were a conservative or a Republican,
you walk out your door every day
wondering if someone's going to try and kill you.
You walk out the door every day,
you go to an event and you wonder
if someone's going to try and kill you and kill your family.
You talked about it yourself.
You have a security team.
We all have security teams.
We all have to be thinking through every last little thing.
We have to micromanage every aspect of our security.
We have to start asking questions
that no one should have to ask about security at hotels
or conferences or things like that.
I never hear this conversation
among people on the left anymore.
They are not walking around worrying
if somebody who's hopped up on hormones and trans surgery
is going to try and kill them.
This seems to be a threat that is completely isolated
to those of us on the right.
And thank you for bringing it up
because it's totally unacceptable
and yet it's been utterly normalized.
I don't know how we get back from it,
but you talked about Butler.
They tried to kill Trump.
They killed Charlie.
Instead of everyone getting together after that
and saying, hey, we have a real problem
with political violence on the left in this country,
everyone's devolved down into conspiracy theories
on the far right.
Oh, he, you know, Tyler didn't do it.
This country did it.
Meanwhile, on the left, they tell us that,
oh, actually it was a right-winger who did it
and it's good that it happened.
This is a horrible environment
that we are in politically right now
where these are the terms of conversation
and these are the things we're talking about.
It's an utter tragedy.
And what I find so frustrating and disheartening
is I don't know where we go from here.
I don't know how we get back
to where we can just disagree over things
without wishing everyone who disagreed with us
got killed or is dead.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I can't tell you the number of conversations I've had
over the past year, before that too,
but especially since Charlie,
as the death threats have escalated exponentially
about fortifying every single area of our lives,
every single area, any place I go,
any place I'm gonna be,
certainly any place we've announced publicly,
just in case somebody wants to kill me for my opinions.
Right, like that's what we're talking about right here.
That's what Charlie's issue was.
We're not public officials.
We haven't run for office.
We're not elected leaders.
I'm not saying that makes it better,
but it's not a new thought that like a president
might be the subject of an assassination attempt,
but we're podcasters.
You know, we're media, we're journalists.
This is so bizarre.
So why would somebody wanna kill you, Sean Davis,
or you, Sarab Amari, or me, Megyn Kelly, for our opinions?
That's why for our opinions,
we've crossed over to a truly bizarrely dangerous
way of living where this is just accepted.
And 90% of journalists do not have the resources
to even employ a security team.
Most journalists don't make a lot of money.
That would be an impossibility
to surround themselves with the appropriate team.
Even Charlie, you know, he had a team
because he was with Turning Point,
but it's a nonprofit, Sarab.
You know, it's like there were limits.
Even I was mistaken to think that Charlie
had a bulletproof vest on.
Even when I went out and I hosted his show
with the Turning Point crew, I sat there with them.
They were the ones who told me
Charlie was not wearing a bulletproof vest.
He was relying on that team to protect him.
And even they couldn't give him presidential-level
protection because he was a civilian.
You know, he was one of us.
Yeah, the failure here, which you highlighted,
is the fact that I don't think the TPUSA security team,
because when you go to a police chief and you say,
hey, like we're concerned about this particular area,
and he says, I've got you covered,
that's pretty definitive.
And as you said, Megan,
if I were in the shoes of his security team,
I would go to bank with that, reliably so.
Here's a credible police officer saying,
don't worry, I've got that.
And that ends up being precisely the area
from which the assassin operated.
I do think, so that's a kind of failure
of just the idiocy, right?
But it's a long way from that
to some of the conspiracy theories
that were circulated on the hard right,
where it was like the Egyptian and Israeli governments
and all this stuff, right?
The threats that we face,
although I have to say I don't have a security team,
but are much more banal.
And there's this specific type
of what I call trans-involved lefty crazy person.
And Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin, fit that profile.
There were others.
There was the sort of school shooter,
Catholic school in Wisconsin.
I don't know if you guys remember that case.
Less remembered, of course.
But that's really the profile.
He seemed like a devil.
That's really the profile.
Often there is marijuana use.
Like a possessed leftist.
Yeah, marijuana use, a combination of marijuana use,
sort of strange sexual attractions and ideology.
And so I think that's a more productive area
for the right to talk about
than conspiracy theories, to be honest.
Well, you know what I was saying after Charlie died
and I think everyone went a little crazy.
I just think that watching our friend get assassinated
really did a number on many people.
I just like, I haven't felt totally myself since.
You know, I feel like I've been a little off since
and I can see it in a lot of friends.
But I think many people reverted to their priors.
You know, like people who had been openly fighting
with Israel and Israel defenders
really wanted to investigate that angle
because Charlie was drifting from the Israeli cause,
was expressing privately in group chats
his consternation with Jewish donors
who were leaning on him not to abandon Israel,
not to question Israel too much.
So they revert to their priors.
You know, we, I think I speak for all three of us,
have done a lot of coverage on the radical trans TIFAs
out there who start with the screw loose
and then in some cases add drugs to it
or like obsessive gaming,
which communities can be actually disturbing
or you have layer in the furry thing,
which actually is also very sick.
And we've seen that erupt in violence,
not to mention SSRIs,
which become a common thread in a lot of these.
And who do they take aim at?
People like us, people like Charlie.
So it's like, I'm not surprised at all.
You know, I mean, the day after Charlie was murdered,
that's exactly where I went.
I thought it was over the trans stands
and I went on the air and said,
just so you know, a man cannot become a woman.
A woman cannot become a man.
There's no such thing as a trans child.
You know, and said, you can't stop all of us.
Like, well, if this is what this is,
is this is who killed him.
You can't stop all of it.
I just think people reverted to their priors
because I don't know,
we're just getting used to this leftist violence.
And so we see through it what we wanna see through it, Sean.
Yeah, so I've spent probably,
I think the last 14 years in investigative journalism.
Before that, I was a chief investigator
on the Hill for Tom Coburn,
who is just a renowned investigator of waste and fraud.
And there's a thing you learn to do
when you're in investigating,
is that you always kind of have to start with a hypothesis.
You have an idea in your head of what happened.
And then from there, you have to look at all the facts
and you ask yourself,
do all these facts align with this hypothesis I have?
And you know what, sometimes they add up perfectly
and you're like, okay, I nailed it.
This is what happened.
And then sometimes they don't.
And it takes time and wisdom and discernment and experience
to notice when the facts don't quite line up
to be able to tell yourself,
okay, that original hypothesis I had,
I don't think that's correct.
So what is actually able to explain all these known facts?
What's the thread that runs through all of them?
And what's the story that aligns with all of them?
And the one in this one is not Israel or Egypt
or helicopters or planes or exploding microphones.
It's that we have an utter epidemic
of transgender terroristic violence in this country.
This wasn't the first time it happened.
We have scores of examples.
We had a woman who decided she was a boy,
go and shoot up a bunch of third graders
at a Christian school in Nashville.
It happened in Minnesota.
It happened in Wisconsin.
It is not a big leap to be like,
oh, this guy whose DNA is on everything.
The guy whose text messages were everywhere.
The guy who's, he's accounted for all over the campus.
His parents recognized him.
They turned him in, they confessed it.
They have all of it in black and white.
He was angry over Charlie's belief
that boys can't become girls and girls can't become boys.
This isn't a particularly difficult case.
This isn't something where we're having to go
plumb the depths of the internet
and look at this document and that document
to figure out what, go on.
The dots basically connect themselves.
It's not a revolutionary theory.
This is yet one more example
of left-wing transgender terroristic violence.
It has to stop.
We have to crack down on it.
One thing that I've been frustrated by
is that we have not seen Antifa be dragged from their homes,
their bank accounts raided,
their assets frozen and liquidated
because this is a terrorist movement,
is a demonic, violent, terroristic, ideological movement
that has been very open about its aims.
And we can't just sit by and wait for one more to happen
and then put that person in jail.
This is something we actually have to tackle head on.
I had hoped it would have happened immediately
after Charlie was assassinated and it wasn't,
but it's never too late to start.
And I just want to say for the record,
you're fine criticizing Israel.
You have not been some shill for Israel, nor have I.
Obviously this whole year has been very tumultuous
because I've refused to do that.
And I'm with you.
I've been very open-minded to,
if Israel controlled Tyler Robinson and made him a patsy,
what the **** do I know?
Whether our government or another does that to people
and uses them, I'm open-minded to that.
The JFK, there's a big whole theory about that.
CIA and all that.
I get it.
I totally get it.
But at some point when we're in court,
we need to see some proof that he was controlled,
that there was an intervention somehow in his life.
Like we do need some evidence.
And by the way, even if that's somehow lurking out there,
we just haven't found it yet.
Today's task is to figure out
whether Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger.
That is today's task.
And the evidence that he did is overwhelming.
It's overwhelming.
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