Epstein Was Farming Babies And He Wasn't Alone

Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host Seth Holhouse. In today's episode, my guest is a woman named Emma Waters. So she's a policy analyst for the Heritage Foundation, and she's also the author of an upcoming book called Lead Like JL, which is a book that's kind of rooted in a lot of biblical concepts and ideas and scripture about the role of women, especially in the family, in modern motherhood, and so many things that really tie into this discussion very strongly. So we're going to be looking at the role of technology in birth for everything from the genetic selection of babies, being able to choose the eye color, the sex of your baby, how that's being used, looking at birthing farms and how that's something we're seeing more commonly. Even Epstein himself was involved in these birthing farms, similar to John of God, the person that we know through Oprah. Kind of a weird connection there. It's not today's episode though. So we'll be looking at how does technology play into the creation of life, but also how does technology play into the ending of death. And so we'll look at that as well and how all these topics converge into this transhumanist perspective that is involved with creating and designing the perfect baby, seeking immortality, and so much more. So this is going to be a great discussion. Emma's a wonderful guest. I think you'll enjoy it. Before we jump in though, make sure that you are following the page. Make sure you're sharing if you like it. Of course, if you leave comments, I'd love to see what your comments are. And for those of you that are watching on Rumble and supporting a free speech platform, thank you. Honestly, thank you. Make sure you're subscribed to the channel. So let's go ahead and dive in now on this interview with Emma Waters. Emma, thank you so much for being here with us today. I'm really looking forward to this discussion. Yes, thanks so much for having me today. Absolutely. So your expertise is in a lot of kind of interesting areas, but specifically baby farming, designer babies, kind of modifying the DNA of children, birth rates, population collapse. It's a really interesting intersection that, especially in today's world, when we have these pretty powerful people that are literally designing babies, but also reminiscent of sort of like a Genghis Khan, like kind of spread my seed everywhere type mentality. So there's some interesting stuff for us today. But how about we'll just start with, I'll allow you to give just a brief introduction of yourself and then we'll jump in. Yes. So I am a policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation and the author of a new book called Lead Like JL. But beyond the work that I'm doing, which I often describe as the intersection of technology and human conception and development. So it really captures the way that technology is totally reimagining our relationship with our own bodies, with our children and with the wider world, which means there's a lot of very interesting topics to talk about. I'll frequently hear from people, they'll say, Emma, we loved your interview. It ruined my day, but we loved your interview. So hopefully the audience will have a pleasant experience, even if it's a little dark at times. But beyond that, I'm married. We have two little girls. My husband's in seminary and so life is very full, very lovely. Both getting to research these things, but then see how they're playing out in our literal family and in the world today. It's funny because I feel like that you're paralleling me in certain ways. I've also got two little girls, two and five, married happily. But I can see, I'm also covering a lot of dark topics, but I try to find the smile amidst it, right? Because we have to be able to look at these things, but we shouldn't just become so absorbed with darkness that we're like, okay, it's hopeless. So yeah, I'm looking forward to this. Let's just go ahead and start with the designer baby angle, right? Because this is something that is really interesting and it also, it ties into some of the stuff that we saw coming out of the Epstein files, right? So here's a New York Times article from 2019 talking about how Jeffrey Epstein had hoped to seed the human race with his DNA. And this is something that's strange because people think about Epstein as being, oh, so he's a blackmail agent, he's a pedophile, he compromises people, and that's his main role. But you realize that he was very heavily involved in a lot of techno, biological stuff, right? He invested a lot in science and a lot of universities, a lot of research, but it was very, very tied to this merger of what you're talking about, the merger of technology and the creation of human life. So not only we have this article here, but we also know that for his Zorro ranch, that he actually had breeding programs that were going on there, right? Where they're literally farming babies, similar to the John of God, right? This was the guy that Oprah had some kind of strange association with that he also had these baby farming factories. Obviously, there's something much bigger going on here. What do you make of this? The commodification of human life does not end with the treatment of those children who were already born. And this is something that is a tale as old as time. It's nothing new under the sun. Hitler had a breeding program to try to create the ideal humans. You see Epstein doing this. Telegram founder Pavlov, he has promised to pay for IVF treatments for any woman who will use his sperm in the process. You have a number of Chinese billionaires doing this, but there's this level of hubris that assumes that my genetics are so good for the world that everyone needs to have them well beyond any conception of the family of marriage. And frankly, what's best for children, because what is this doing? It's relying on these advanced reproductive technologies, IVF, surrogacy, genetic testing of human embryos to sort of create and modify these, quote, ideal humans. And the second thing that's assumed in this mindset is this genetic determinism that genetics make you who you are. Now, this is the nature versus nurture debate that is as old as time. But what Epstein, what some of these millionaires and billionaires are assuming is that if they just get their genetics in the pool, then you'll have tons of children running around who are as smart and ambitious and as successful, question mark, as they are, though I think a lot of society would say we actually don't want any more success like that in our world today and our world would be better without it. But it completely ignores the role of nurture and formation for the child and just assumes if you create the child, you throw them out in the world, everything will be fine. But anyone who's a parent or who has spent five minutes with a child know that it is both true that your child comes out with so many interesting quirks that make them who they are. And yet the role of the parent is essential in forming that child and ensuring that they are shaped and raised into a happy, healthy person. And you cannot ignore either of those pieces. 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