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How would you land it on the moon? That question continues to drive debate around Starship,
a vehicle that is exceptionally large, extremely tall, and currently designed without landing legs.
Will Starship ultimately gain landing legs or will it not? That decision rests with SpaceX.
The more immediate question is how Starship could safely touch down on the lunar surface
One unconventional concept under consideration is sideways landing,
an approach that offers surprising efficiency and several unique advantages. How could such
a method work and could it truly remove the need for landing legs altogether?
After more than 50 years since the last crewed mission to the moon,
humanity is finally preparing to return to this natural satellite. However,
the challenge is far greater than many expected. Landing on the moon remains extremely difficult
and many modern landers have failed, even those with low horizontal designs and dedicated landing
legs. Examples include Intuitive Machines landers such as IM-1 Odysseus and IM-2 Athena.
This raises a critical question. How can a vehicle like Starship land safely on the moon?
Starship is enormous, standing at over 50 meters tall with a diameter of just 9 meters.
This means its height is more than 5.5 times its width. SpaceX is even planning future versions
such as the V-4 where the height increases further while the diameter remains unchanged,
making this imbalance even more extreme. Its height alone exceeds that of many rockets,
let alone lunar landers. The vehicle is also designed to land vertically, which significantly
increases the risk of failure. Compounding the problem, the current Starship design does not
include landing legs for stabilization. Even on Earth, Starship requires support stands to
remain upright, something that would not be available on the moon. The lunar surface itself
is uneven and unpredictable, with slopes, cracks, and rough terrain. Even a minor surface irregularity
could cause Starship to tip over. If that were to happen, the consequences would be catastrophic.
Starship would still contain fuel and a strong impact could result in an immediate explosion.
All onboard payloads would be lost. More critically, Starship HLS is designed to carry
astronauts, making crew safety the top concern. So how could SpaceX address this problem if it
chooses not to add landing legs? There is one clear answer that has been proposed, sideways landing.
At first glance, it sounds unusual, but the concept offers several compelling advantages.
The most significant benefit is improved stability. By landing in a tilted or horizontal
orientation, Starship would have a much lower center of gravity and a much larger contact area
with the lunar surface. This would greatly reduce the risk of tipping over and make balancing the
vehicle far easier than attempting a vertical landing. A second major advantage involves
surface operations. Once Starship is tilted, nearly the entire spacecraft would be much closer to the
lunar surface, including the payload bays and crew living quarters. This would eliminate the
need for large elevators to transport astronauts and cargo from heights exceeding 40 meters.
Instead, simple stairways or short-access systems would be sufficient, allowing astronauts to move
easily between the surface and the vehicle and enabling efficient unloading of payloads.
Another advantage lies in long-term potential. A tilted Starship could be more easily converted
into a permanent lunar base. This would allow SpaceX to rapidly establish a stable habitat for
astronauts on the moon. Starship already contains a large and advanced interior designed to support
crews during deep space missions, and with further modifications, it could support long-duration
living and scientific research on the lunar surface. This concept is often referred to as
Moon Base Alpha. If SpaceX were to pursue this idea, additional modifications would still be
required. Fuel tanks would likely need to be removed or repurposed to expand living space.
A protective layer of lunar regolith could be added to shield the structure from dust, debris,
micrometeorites, extreme temperatures, and radiation. One question naturally follows.
If Starship is converted into a lunar base, how would astronauts return to orbit?
One possible solution would be to carry a smaller ascent vehicle inside Starship HLS.
This vehicle could be stored in the payload bay and would not need to be operational until it was
time to return the crew to lunar orbit. Its sole purpose would be crew transport, making its design
relatively simple. The larger challenge would be determining who would design and build such a
vehicle and how it would integrate with Starship operations. Because of these uncertainties,
converting Starship into a lunar base remains a long-term concept rather than an immediate plan.
It's unlikely to be implemented on the first missions but could become viable during later
expeditions. Despite its benefits, sideways landing introduces several major challenges
that cannot be ignored. The first and foremost significant challenge is the landing support
system itself. In addition to the main engines, Starship would require powerful thrusters,
likely mounted near the forward section of the vehicle. These thrusters would need to assist with
deceleration while also counterbalancing the main engines. During landing, the aft engines and
forward thrusters would need to work together to slow the vehicle, rotate it from a vertical
orientation to an inclined position, and then gently lower it onto the lunar surface. This
process would require extraordinary precision. These engines and thrusters would also consume
large amounts of fuel, meaning SpaceX would need an efficient method of fuel management and
distribution. If Starship were later required to launch again to return astronauts to lunar orbit,
the thrusters would face an even greater challenge. They would need to lift the forward
section of the vehicle before the main engines could fully ignite for liftoff. Overall, this
approach would require substantial modifications to Starship's propulsion and control systems.
The second challenge involves Starship's shape. Its cylindrical, bullet-like design that while
may not easily tip over when laying down, it could roll. This presents another serious risk.
To prevent this, additional structural supports or stabilizing bars would likely be needed at both
ends of the vehicle. The third issue concerns the interior layout. Starship was originally designed
to operate vertically. If the vehicle were placed on its side, internal spaces could be disrupted
and unsecured payloads could shift or collide. Converting the interior for horizontal operations
would take time and careful planning. Ideally, SpaceX would need to design Starship from the
beginning to allow smooth transitions between vertical and horizontal configurations.
Structural concerns also play a major role. Starship's structure is strongest when forces
are applied along its vertical axis. When positioned horizontally, the stresses on the
hull and internal tanks increase, while overall structural strength decreases. Loads that are
distributed evenly could become concentrated in specific areas, increasing the risk of damage.
While lunar gravity is much lower than Earth's, these stresses cannot be ignored. To address this,
Starship's hull and fuel tanks would need significant reinforcement to withstand
horizontal loads and impacts. Another structural challenge involves fuel delivery. When Starship
is horizontal, fuel flow to the engines becomes less efficient, which could negatively affect
engine performance. This issue would be especially critical during the transition
from a horizontal position back to vertical for liftoff. Unstable engine performance during this
phase would pose a serious risk. SpaceX would likely need to add backup pumps or alternative
fuel management systems to ensure reliability. Clearly, sideways landing requires extensive
analysis, redesign, and testing. If SpaceX chooses to pursue this method, it would need to be
implemented early and refined through repeated testing. However, if these challenges can be
overcome, sideways landing could address one of the greatest concerns surrounding Starship HLS,
which is the risk of failure due to its extreme height. For me, the sideways landing concept
would be an impressive way to demonstrate Starship's versatility. That said, I still find
rockets, spacecraft, and landers equipped with landing legs more appealing. There's something
inherently satisfying about a vehicle standing firmly on its own. If you feel the same way,
respond with LEGO in the comments. From a practical standpoint, landing legs remain the
most efficient and straightforward way to stabilize a vehicle, especially during early missions. At
that stage, there would be no external support systems available and SpaceX may not want to
heavily modify Starship to enable sideways landings. However, adopting landing legs would
require major upgrades to Starship, particularly in the aft section. The legs would almost certainly
need to be foldable so they could remain protected during ascent, flight, and descent,
avoiding unnecessary bulk or damage. During landing, these legs would deploy to provide
stability following a concept similar to the approach SpaceX has successfully used on Falcon
rockets for many years. Because the legs would need to fold neatly into the vehicle, critical
systems such as the engine bay and the fuel plumbing that connects the engines to the tanks
would have to be repositioned or redesigned. Starship is an extremely large vehicle and its
landing legs would also need to be large and robust to support its mass. This implies that
the structural changes required in the aft section would be substantial. If these challenges can be
resolved, a legged version of Starship would still offer significant value and flexibility for
SpaceX. Such a configuration would likely be used during the earliest missions to the Moon and Mars,
as well as for potential Earth-to-Earth transportation. During these missions, SpaceX
would not yet have access to infrastructure such as holding arms or concrete balancing platforms.
In remote locations on Earth without support systems, Starship could also land on drone
ships or floating platforms, both of which require landing legs. In this sense, a legged Starship
would serve as a pioneer, enabling SpaceX to operate in new and undeveloped environments.
Meanwhile, a version of Starship without landing legs would likely be reserved for sideways landings
when support systems are not yet available, or for specialized missions such as converting the
vehicle into a surface base. While it could still perform pioneering tasks, it would face more
limitations. Designing and integrating powerful support thrusters is likely more complex than
simply adding landing legs. In the long term, SpaceX will likely aim to develop a dedicated
landing support tower system. This approach would be fully compatible with the non-leg Starship
design currently under development. It would also enable faster recovery, refurbishment, and
reflight compared to other landing methods. The challenge is that building such infrastructure
would require dedicated missions to transport materials, landing pad sections, and support
equipment. This process would be both time-consuming and labor-intensive, and additional
solutions would still be needed to safely support Starship landings. There is still much to explore
when it comes to Starship's role in space exploration. Its size and design present both
extraordinary opportunities and significant challenges. As Starship continues development
and works toward missions to the Moon and Mars, these design questions will remain central to
ensuring the safety of both cargo and crew. Will Starship be able to land successfully on these
missions, and which landing method will ultimately be chosen? Those decisions rest with the SpaceX
engineering team. Without landing legs, sideways landing offers a compelling alternative.
Once these challenges are addressed, Starship's true potential will become clearer. Its capabilities
could enable long-term human exploration in ways no other vehicle can match. Now, we wait to see
how SpaceX rises to this challenge. What does the interior of a crewed Starship, whether Starship
HLS or another human-rated variant, actually look like? That question has long captivated SpaceX
fans and the broader aerospace community. Over the years, we've seen plenty of concept art and
speculative renders, but nothing compares to first-hand experience. And now, one astronaut
who's had exactly that, Scott Poteet, has shared new details about Starship's crew interior. So,
what does the design really look like? And after seeing it, will you prefer this concept over the
earlier visions? It's safe to say that interior design will play a decisive role in humanity's
push toward distant destinations beyond Earth. It's not merely about aesthetics or convenience.
It directly reflects the quality of life that astronauts will experience during long, uncertain,
and psychologically demanding journeys through deep space. When missions extend from days to
months and eventually to years, the internal environment of a spacecraft becomes just as
important as its propulsion system or its heat shield. With its unprecedented size and ambitions,
Starship is steadily shaping itself into what may become the most consequential spacecraft
humanity has ever built. Unlike previous vehicles that were designed primarily to
survive the journey, Starship is intended to support life at scale. It's meant to transport
large crews, carry massive payloads, and remain functional for extended durations.
That ambition naturally leads to one critical question. What will the interior of a crewed
Starship actually look like? And how will people live inside it? A recent and intriguing glimpse
into that future came from astronaut Scott Poteet, who has close connections to SpaceX.
Poteet is one of the four astronauts selected for the Polaris Dawn mission, which was commanded by
Jared Isaacman, the current NASA administrator and supported by SpaceX's Dragon spacecraft.
During an interview on Ryan Sean's show, Poteet offered an unexpected description of the interior
crew module planned for Starship. According to Poteet, the sleeping quarters inside Starship
consist of small individual compartments. He described them as little cubicles, almost like
these Japanese trains that have just enough space to lay down, but hundreds of these spirals stacked
up inside. This single statement sparked widespread discussion because it diverges sharply from many
of the concepts that have circulated in previous years. At first glance, the imagery feels almost
cinematic. Many people imagine a vast open interior, something closer to what science fiction
films have conditioned us to expect. However, most earlier leaks and design hints pointed at
a different direction. For example, concepts related to Starship's HLS showed a two-level
interior. In those designs, the lower level was dedicated primarily to cargo, storage, and
equipment, while the upper level was intended for crew activities such as work, rest, and daily
operations. The working areas in these concepts were modeled after the Dragon crew compartment,
emphasizing functionality and efficiency. Meanwhile, the sleeping quarters were depicted
as stacked bunks arranged along the walls, resembling cabinets placed partially on top
of one another. Some have compared this layout to the way playing cards are held in a fan,
compact and overlapping, but still individually accessible. There has also been frequent
discussion about a six-level internal configuration for Starship. This concept suggests that Starship
would provide more total pressurized volume than the ISS. Each level would serve a distinct
function, ranging from command and control to living quarters, storage, research, and payload
handling, particularly within the expansive nosecone and payload section. Against that backdrop,
Scott Poteet's description feels like a turning point. The comparison to Japanese train sleeping
pods implies a continuous and tightly packed arrangement, possibly spiraling through the
interior rather than being divided into large open decks. This suggests a design philosophy
focused on maximizing occupancy and efficiency rather than individual spaciousness. One likely
interpretation is that these compact cubicles are intended exclusively for sleeping.
Sleep in space is a critical function that demands privacy, stability, and isolation
from light and noise. Designing a dedicated sleeping area with hundreds of small compartments
could allow SpaceX to provide each astronaut with a personal, enclosed space while still
conserving volume for other essential functions. This approach aligns with SpaceX's long-stated
goal of carrying more than 100 people on a single Starship flight. That number alone
sets Starship apart from every crewed spacecraft ever built. No past or present vehicle even comes
close to that capacity, and it may take decades before any other system rivals it. However,
accommodating such a large crew inevitably involves trade-offs. As Poteet described,
each sleeping compartment may only provide enough room to lie down. For some, this feels
disappointing. There has long been hope that SpaceX might revolutionize sleeping quarters in
space by offering more spacious, customizable environments where astronauts could truly
personalize their private space. The reality is that volume is finite, even in a vehicle as large
as Starship. When the priority is transporting dozens or hundreds of people, individual comfort
must be balanced against overall mission capability. That said, limited physical space does
not necessarily equate to poor quality of life. SpaceX is known for compensating physical
constraints with technological solutions. Systems can be tightly integrated into compact spaces
while maintaining high performance and reliability. Digital interfaces, smart lighting,
climate control, and adaptive displays can all enhance comfort without consuming additional
volume. Connectivity will likely be central to long missions. Starlink could extend its
Earth-based impact into space, enabling continuous access to data, research tools,
entertainment, and real-time communication, all critical for maintaining mental health and a
Familiarity also matters. Interior designs that echo modern living environments through color,
materials, and layout can reduce stress and disorientation, making the habitat feel intuitive
rather than purely industrial. Sleeping quarters are only a small part of Starship's interior,
much of which remains undisclosed. These spaces will include mission work areas,
centralized control systems, communal living zones, exercise and dining facilities,
hygiene areas, and extensive storage. Here, SpaceX has room to introduce genuinely new
solutions that could redefine how humans live and work in space. Expectations for Starship's
crewed configuration are high across the aerospace community. Not every concept will
meet early optimism, but Starship is not meant to be a luxury vehicle for a select few.
It's designed as mass transportation for space, supporting large crews and repeated missions.
Beyond interior design, Starship's overall capabilities amplify its significance.
Starship is the most powerful spacecraft ever built and, unlike traditional crew
capsules, is not merely a payload. It's an integral part of the launch system,
serving as the rocket's second stage while also operating as a spacecraft in its own right.
In many ways, it resembles a mobile space station. With a 9-meter diameter and a height
exceeding 50 meters in its current V3 form, future variants could surpass 60 meters,
including a roughly 21-meter nosecone and payload section. Within that structure,
Starship offers an internal volume greater than the total habitable space of the International
Space Station, enabling capabilities and amenities far beyond those of any existing
spacecraft or station. This becomes critical when mission duration is considered. Lunar flights last
only days, but a Mars journey demands at least six months each way, spent in confinement while
exposed to microgravity, radiation, and isolation. Sustaining physical health,
mental resilience, and crew cohesion over that span requires far more than basic life support.
Interior upgrades will be essential. Exercise systems must counter muscle and bone loss.
Living areas must balance shared space with privacy, and work environments must remain
functional and adaptable for months on end. Starship is built for scale, intended to carry
not a few astronauts but dozens or even hundreds. That capacity underpins SpaceX's vision of
sustained human presence on the Moon and Mars, where permanent or semi-permanent bases will
require moving vast numbers of people, equipment, and supplies. In this context, Starship could
offer the United States a major strategic advantage. Delivering large crews and heavy
payloads in a single launch simplifies logistics and accelerates infrastructure development
compared to smaller incremental systems. Beyond exploration, Starship is also envisioned as a
point-to-point Earth transport system, moving people and cargo across the planet at unprecedented
speed. Comfort is secondary in that role, but the vehicle's versatility remains unmatched.
After arrival, Starship can be transformed. On the Moon or Mars, it may be repurposed as a surface
base, with interiors adapted for long-term habitation and the vehicle itself converted
from a vertical lander into a horizontal structure once crew return capability is assured. Several
concepts have been proposed for this transition. One envisions mechanical systems, lowering
Starship from vertical to horizontal after landing, while another involves a controlled
sideways landing using thrusters. Either approach would quickly turn the vehicle into a large,
ready-made habitat. The appeal is speed and efficiency. A single Starship could provide
a substantial base immediately upon landing, eliminating lengthy assembly and reducing cost,
construction time, and operational complexity during early off-world settlement.
In Earth orbit, Starship's scale also makes it a strong candidate for use as a space station.
With added docking ports, maneuvering thrusters, and support systems, multiple Starships could
be linked to form an orbital complex far larger than anything flying today.
This concept is especially compelling because Starship is designed for low-cost production,
launch, and refurbishment. Musk has cited a long-term goal of launch costs near $2 million
per flight. Even if that proves optimistic, the cost per kilogram to orbit would still be
dramatically lower than existing systems. Full reusability and high launch cadence
could enable rapid construction of orbital infrastructure, compressing timelines from
decades to years or even months. Once repurposed as a station or base module, Starship gains another
advantage. Flight-specific hardware, such as large propellant tanks and main engines, could be
removed or reused, freeing enormous internal volume for habitats, laboratories, and storage.
Despite all this potential, progress remains the defining challenge. As of early 2026,
SpaceX is only beginning the transition from experimental prototypes to truly operational
designs. Two major experimental variants have flown, but the fully refined Starship required
for routine crewed missions is still taking shape. Looking ahead, 2027 is expected to mark the start
of crewed Starship flights. The most immediate milestone is Artemis III, which aims to return
humans to the moon for the first time in more than half a century, currently targeted for late
2027 or early 2028. Mars missions are expected to follow later in the decade, potentially four
to five years beyond that. The pace is accelerating. Starship HLS has taken on new urgency as the U.S.
refocuses on lunar exploration while competition is intensifying, with Blue Origin positioning
itself as a potential alternative. Near-term progress on Starship HLS may directly shape
SpaceX's role in Artemis III, making schedule discipline increasingly critical. At the same
time, SpaceX must continue refining Starship's core capabilities. The program has already
demonstrated boosted recovery using the Mechazilla arms and achieved several early flight milestones.
Over the next year, it must reach orbital insertion, payload deployment, controlled
two-stage landings, and on-orbit refueling. These are the foundational technologies that must be
proven before any crewed variant can be certified. For that reason, 2026 stands as a defining year
for Starship. What succeeds or fails during this period will shape the trajectory of human
spaceflight for decades to come. And that brings us to the final takeaway. SpaceX is not just
building a spacecraft, it's assembling a self-contained environment meant to sustain human
life far from Earth, with early glimpses provided through astronaut perspectives like Scott Poteet's
and the promise of far more still ahead. Major challenges remain, chief among them gravity.
Long-term exposure to microgravity poses serious health risks and creating artificial gravity
through rotation or other methods is still an open question. Whether SpaceX turns to
rotating habitats, tethered systems, or entirely new solutions, gravity may become one of the
defining design challenges of future Starship missions. For now, the vision continues to take
shape. What's clear is that Starship marks a fundamental shift in spaceflight, moving from
short missions to the prospect of sustained human life beyond Earth. And that brings us to the end
of today's episode. Thank you so much for tuning in, and as always, this has been Kevin from Great
SpaceX. Until next time, keep looking up.