Crazy Solution to Land Astronauts from Starship HLS on the Moon Without 35m Elevator… === #greatspacex#elonmusk#spacex#nasa == Intro Starship elevator’s problems 0:38 Solution: sideways landing 4:31 Starship potentials 8:11 Conclusion 9:52 === Advertisers who want to place ads on our channel, please contact the email manager: [email protected] === SpaceX Starship SN Be the first to sponsor us Thank you. https://www.patreon.com/GreatspaceX?fan_landing=true === Crazy Solution to Land Astronauts from Starship HLS on the Moon Without 35m Elevator… Landing humans on the Moon. That is the ultimate goal right now, and it has never been simple. At the center of this effort is Starship HLS. Its massive size offers advantages, but it also introduces a unique challenge. How do you safely bring astronauts down from a height of tens of meters to the lunar surface? The current solution, an elevator, comes with real risks. So is there a better approach? Can the crew be supported in another way without relying on such a system? Let’s explore the possibilities in today’s episode of Great SpaceX. Starship HLS is a specialized version of Starship, built for lunar missions. It retains the same towering design, standing over 50 meters tall, while adding systems tailored for landing humans on the Moon. One of the most important is the crew elevator. For years, this system has been the primary way to move astronauts from the living quarters near the top of the vehicle down to the lunar surface. But the scale of Starship HLS makes this far more challenging than anything attempted before. Crazy Solution to Land Astronauts from Starship HLS on the Moon Without 35m Elevator… Unlike traditional landers, Starship HLS is massive and vertically oriented. Astronauts would descend from a height of around 35 meters, about 115 feet. As NASA puts it, that’s “taller than the Statue of Liberty from her heel to the top of her head.” For comparison, the Apollo lunar lander stood just 7 meters tall, while Blue Origin’s Blue Moon Mark 2 is expected to reach about 16 meters. Now imagine the operation. An elevator system, similar to a suspended platform, would lower astronauts along the side of the vehicle. Even on Earth, systems like this require careful control and carry risks. On the Moon, those risks become more serious. Crazy Solution to Land Astronauts from Starship HLS on the Moon Without 35m Elevator… And NASA is well aware of it. In a recent Office of Inspector General report on the Human Landing System program, the agency highlighted the elevator as a critical concern. The report states: “Currently, there is no other method for the crew to enter the vehicle from the lunar surface in the event of an elevator failure.” It continues: “The HLS Program is tracking the elevator as a top risk and is actively working with SpaceX to develop alternate means of vehicle ingress should the elevator become stuck or fail while the crew is on the lunar surface.” ---- We use images and content in accordance with the YouTube Fair Use copyright guidelines: https://www.youtube.com/intl/en/about/copyright/fair-use/ Any questions about copyright please send us via Gmail: [email protected] To be resolved, thank you.
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Landing humans on the moon. That is the ultimate goal right now, and it's never been simple.
How do you safely bring astronauts down from a height of tens of meters to the lunar surface?
The current solution, an elevator, comes with real risks. So is there a better approach?
Can the crew be supported in another way without relying on such a system?
Let's explore the possibilities in today's episode of Great SpaceX.
Starship HLS is a specialized version of Starship, built for lunar missions. It retains the same
towering design, standing over 50 meters tall while adding systems tailored for landing humans
on the moon. One of the most important is the crew elevator. For years, this system has been
the primary way to move astronauts from the living quarters near the top of the vehicle
down to the lunar surface. But the scale of Starship HLS makes this far more challenging
than anything attempted before. Unlike traditional landers, Starship HLS is massive and vertically
oriented. Astronauts would descend from a height of around 35 meters, or about 115 feet. As NASA
puts it, that's taller than the Statue of Liberty from her heel to the top of her head. For comparison,
the Apollo lunar lander stood just about 7 meters tall, while Blue Origin's Blue Moon
Mark 2 is expected to reach about 16 meters. Now imagine the operation. An elevator system,
similar to a suspended platform, would lower astronauts along the side of the vehicle.
Even on Earth, systems like this require careful control and carry risks. On the moon,
those risks become more serious, and NASA is well aware of it. In a recent Office of Inspector
General report on the Human Landing Systems Program, the agency highlighted the elevator
as a critical concern. The report states,
Currently, there is no other method for the crew to enter the vehicle from the lunar surface in
the event of an elevator failure. It continues,
The HLS program is tracking the elevator as a top risk and is actively working with SpaceX to
develop alternate means of vehicle ingress should the elevator become stuck or fail while the crew
is on the lunar surface. The concern is straightforward. If the elevator fails,
whether due to mechanical issues, entanglement, or unexpected conditions, the crew could be
stranded. There would be no easy way to climb tens of meters in a spacesuit and no safe way
to descend without assistance. The moon adds yet another layer of uncertainty. Even small movements
could cause the system to sway. A shift in mass, a minor impact, or uneven terrain could introduce
instability. In lunar gravity, where conditions differ significantly from Earth, these effects
become harder to predict and control. Because of this, NASA requires a high level of reliability.
The system must tolerate at least one failure without leading to a catastrophic outcome.
In response, SpaceX is developing a more robust elevator design with redundancy and backup
mechanisms. But this also highlights a broader issue. The elevator challenge reflects the
of adapting Starship's design for the moon. At its core, Starship is built like a rocket. Even
its upper stage alone rivals or exceeds the size and power of many historical launch vehicles.
That scale brings enormous capability but also introduces new engineering problems when landing
on another world. Early in development, SpaceX envisioned catching Starship using mechanical
arms, eliminating the need for traditional landing legs. On the moon, where no such
infrastructure exists, that approach is not possible. Instead, Starship HLS will require
landing legs. This creates another challenge, stability. To support a vehicle over 50 meters
tall, the legs must be large and strong enough to prevent tipping. Increasing their size adds
weight and complexity, which can affect performance. Then there's the terrain. The
lunar south pole, a primary target for Artemis missions, is far from flat. It's filled with
craters, slopes, and uneven surfaces. Recent missions have shown how difficult landing can be
with some landers tipping over or suffering damage on contact. So even before solving
the elevator problem, engineers must answer a more fundamental question. How do you safely
land and stabilize a vehicle of this scale on such an unforgiving surface? That is the challenge
Starship HLS now faces. SpaceX has never backed away from difficult engineering problems. Faced
with this one, it's already exploring new solutions. One idea now being considered is
known as sideways landing. In this concept, Starship would descend in a vertical position
for most of the landing sequence, but as it approaches the lunar surface, the vehicle
would gradually rotate into a horizontal orientation. This transition would likely rely
on a combination of gimballed main engines and additional thrusters positioned alongside the
midsection of the lander. With that capability, Starship could settle into a much lower and more
stable position on the surface. The risk of tipping due to its extreme height would be
greatly reduced. There would still be a possibility of rolling while on its side,
but the risk is generally easier to manage than maintaining balance at full height.
This approach also addresses one of the biggest concerns, the elevator. If Starship is lying on
its side, the crew hatch would just sit 4-5 meters above the surface. That eliminates the
need for a long, cable-based elevator system. Instead, astronauts could rely on far simpler
and more conventional access methods, similar to those used in earlier missions. The benefits
extend beyond safety. A lower entry point would make it much easier to move equipment, conduct
surface operations, and transition in and out of the vehicle. Every task becomes more efficient
when the vertical distance is reduced. There is also a potential advantage in terms of design.
A sideways landing could remove the need for large landing legs, reducing both weight and
mechanical complexity. The idea itself is not entirely new. During earlier discussions about
building a permanent presence on the moon, engineers explored the possibility of using
Starship as a ready-made habitat. By positioning the vehicle horizontally, it could function as a
This concept, often referred to as Moonbase Alpha, has also been considered for future
missions to Mars. However, these advantages come with serious technical challenges.
First, the vehicle would require a powerful and carefully balanced thruster system to control the
transition from vertical to horizontal. These thrusters would need enough force to counteract
the main engines and precisely guide the vehicle's orientation. They might even need to help lift
the front of the spacecraft if a relaunch is required. Timing would be critical. The main
engines cannot ignite too early during the maneuver, or the vehicle could slam into the
surface. They must engage only when the spacecraft has returned to a safe angle. Every step would
demand extreme precision, and even then, internal systems could experience disruptions.
Second, structural stress becomes a major concern. When Starship rests horizontally,
its weight is distributed across a larger contact area. The lunar surface is uneven,
so that load would not be perfectly balanced. This could introduce risks of deformation,
or even damage to the hull, requiring additional reinforcement. There's also the issue of internal
configuration. Starship is designed to operate vertically throughout launch, flight, and most
of its landing sequence. Cargo placement, fuel systems, and onboard equipment all assume that
orientation. Shifting to a horizontal position could complicate or compromise those systems.
So, while sideways landing offers a compelling solution to the elevator problem, it introduces
a new set of engineering challenges that must be solved. Even so, the concept remains promising.
It directly addresses one of NASA's primary safety concerns without introducing trade-offs
in that specific area. For that reason alone, it stands as an idea worth serious consideration.
Once these challenges are solved, that is when Starship will truly begin to show what it is
capable of. By design, Starship is built to be large and powerful. It can carry more cargo and
more people than any vehicle before it. When its current limitations are overcome, it becomes a
major advantage for NASA. Greater payload capacity means faster construction, more efficient missions,
and a stronger foundation for long-term operations on the moon. This vision is reinforced by plans
for rapid launch cadence, with Musk even setting a long-term goal of building a city on the lunar
surface within the next decade. That level of ambition goes far beyond what traditional landers
can support. Conventional designs prioritize safety and reliability, but they are limited to
carrying only a few tons per mission. That's not enough to quickly establish infrastructure,
and in a competitive environment, especially with China advancing its own lunar plans,
speed matters. Reaching the moon first is important, but building a sustained presence there
may matter even more. Over time, this could shift the balance. Smaller, more conservative landers
may become less practical once regular access to the moon is established. At that point,
larger systems like Starship could take the lead not just as transport vehicles, but as the
backbone of lunar operations. Starship also offers something unique. Beyond transporting cargo, it can
function as an early habitat. Its sheer volume allows it to support crews and equipment immediately
after landing, something no traditional lander can match. That's why, despite the challenges,
Starship continues to stand out as a central player in the lunar race. At the same time,
its size introduces real concerns. The elevator system, designed to move astronauts between the
vehicle and the surface, remains a key risk. Those concerns are valid and cannot be ignored.
That is why alternative approaches, such as sideways landing, are being explored. By lowering
the vehicle closer to the surface, such methods could remove the need for an elevator entirely
and eliminate that specific risk. Whether that approach is ultimately adopted will depend on
decisions by SpaceX and NASA. For now, current designs still show Starship HLS using landing legs
and a vertical configuration. That suggests the elevator will remain part of the system,
supported by testing and likely reinforced with backup options. Another critical factor
is refueling. For a vehicle as large as Starship, in-orbit refueling is essential. It's also one of
the most complex elements of the entire architecture, and a key milestone that SpaceX is
working to achieve in the near term. But if these hurdles are cleared, the implications are profound.
At that point, SpaceX, NASA, and the whole of the United States would be positioned to expand
continuously on the moon. The goal would no longer be limited to brief visits or symbolic achievements.
Instead, it would mark the beginning of a sustained human presence, where the moon
becomes not just a destination, but a new domain for exploration and development.
Are you excited to see what's in store for the development of SpaceX's HLS variant of Starship?
How will they decide on the best course of action to transfer crew to the lunar
surface after descent? Let me know your own personal take on the issue in the comments
down below. Also, be sure to like and subscribe in order to follow us as we continue to bring
you the latest updates. Well folks, it's about time we build a major base on the moon.
Kinda sounds like pure science fiction, except now it's becoming official policy. For decades,
humanity treated the moon like a place you visit once, plant a flag, and leave behind.
Now, the goal is completely different. NASA, SpaceX, Blue Origin, and China are all preparing
for permanent lunar infrastructure. Not just moon landings, but moon industry, moon habitats,
and eventually, maybe even moon cities. Suddenly, Musk's vision of a civilization beyond Earth
doesn't sound impossible anymore. Just extremely expensive. NASA has now revealed major new details
about its moon-based plans. The ambitions are enormous, and one thing is becoming increasingly
clear. Starship could become the centerpiece of the entire system, because the biggest challenge
isn't reaching the moon once. It's transporting enough people, cargo, and infrastructure there
consistently enough to build something permanent. And Starship was practically designed for exactly
that job. We are rapidly approaching what may become one of the defining moments of the 21st
century, the return to the moon. But this time, humanity isn't going there for a quick visit.
This time, the goal is permanence. NASA no longer wants a temporary outpost, the agency wants the
foundation of an actual lunar civilization. And according to recent announcements, the scale being
discussed is absolutely gigantic. NASA currently estimates the total moon-based effort could exceed
20 billion U.S. dollars, which sounds like an absurd amount of money. Until you remember, we're literally
trying to build a city on another world. Honestly, when you frame it that way, 20 billion dollars
almost sounds suspiciously cheap. Carlos Garcia Galán, manager of NASA's moon-based program,
explained the vision during a press conference on May 26th. He stated,
Hundreds of square miles, that's not a campsite. And when you're talking hundreds of square miles,
that's not a campsite, that's urban planning. It's humanity looking at the moon and saying,
Yeah, we're living there now. And importantly, this entire effort will be built through the
Artemis program. NASA plans to focus construction near the lunar south pole. That location is
incredibly important because scientists believe the region contains massive amounts of water ice
hidden inside permanently shadowed craters. And on the moon, water changes everything.
Not only is it for drinking, it can be separated into hydrogen and oxygen, meaning fuel, breathable
air, life support, potential agriculture. In many ways, water is the difference between occasional
missions and permanent survival. Which is exactly why the lunar south pole has become the hottest
real estate market in the solar system. No offense to Mars. NASA's plans today are also dramatically
more ambitious than they were just a few years ago. Initially, the agency envisioned smaller
habitats that would gradually expand over time. But now, the vision is evolving into something
much larger and more structured. NASA's Najud Maranci explained. So you'll have the habitats
on the tops of the hills where they get sunlight, you know, power systems, nuclear systems need to
be a kilometer or more away for the radiation protection. So all of these things, when you
start putting them together, end up sprawling a little bit more like a city as you start building
it out. That statement is incredibly important because NASA is no longer casually talking about
exploration missions. They're discussing urban logistics, radiation zoning, power distribution,
transportation layouts. This is city building. The only difference is that it's on the moon.
And NASA clearly understands that before construction can begin, they need much better
information about the lunar surface. That's where Moonfall comes in. Moonfall drones are small
hopping robotic scouts designed to explore the south polar region before humans arrive. The first
batch, expected to include three or four robots, is planned for launch in 2028 aboard a lunar lander
built by Firefly Aerospace. Firefly secured a $75 million contract for the mission and these
little robots are fascinating. Instead of driving like traditional rovers, they hop, which sounds
adorable until you realize they're basically tactical moon grasshoppers gathering terrain
intelligence for future astronauts. According to NASA, the drones could also help establish the
We're going to be able to basically put them at the corners of the areas where we think
we have either key scientific objectives or we want to build up the moon base. In other words,
humanity is literally preparing to map out lunar property lines. That's a sentence nobody expected
to hear 20 years ago. NASA's broader construction roadmap is divided into three phases. Phase one
runs through 2029. This phase focuses on collecting detailed data and securing reliable access to the
lunar surface. Basically, figure out where everything is and make sure we can actually
get there consistently. Phase two runs from 2029 to 2032. This stage establishes the base's initial
operating capability. That means the first serious infrastructure begins appearing. Habitats,
power systems, surface vehicles, cargo operations, and probably an alarming amount of moon dust
getting everywhere. Seriously, lunar dust is like glitter. Once it shows up, it owns your entire life.
Then comes phase three, and this is where things become truly historic. From 2032 onward, NASA
wants to establish a semi-permanent human presence on the moon, not occasional visits, continuous
occupation. Jared Isaacman summarized the vision perfectly in a NASA statement. He said,
The moon base will be America's and humanity's first outpost on another celestial world.
Every mission, crewed and uncrewed, will be a learning opportunity as we return to the lunar
surface, build the infrastructure to stay, and master the skills required to live and operate
in one of the most demanding and dangerous environments imaginable. That last part is
important because despite all the excitement, the moon remains brutally hostile. Extreme temperatures,
radiation exposure, micrometeorites, communication delays, dangerous terrain,
every single task becomes harder on the lunar surface. And that's precisely why NASA is
increasingly relying on private companies instead of trying to do everything internally like they
did during Apollo. This time, the moon race is becoming an ecosystem. Firefly Aerospace is
handling robotic landers, Astrolab and Lunar Outposts are developing Lunar Terrain Vehicles,
and NASA awarded Astrolab $219 million and Lunar Outposts $220 million for their rover
development efforts. These rovers are much more advanced than the lunar buggies from Apollo.
They're designed for autonomous operation, they can land before astronauts arrive,
be remotely controlled from Earth, and eventually meet astronauts directly at landing sites.
NASA wants at least one operational LTV waiting on the moon before Artemis 4 lands
near the South Pole in 2028. That's a huge step forward. Imagine arriving on another world and
your ride is already parked outside waiting for you. That's convenience.
Both rover systems will reportedly be delivered using Blue Origin's Blue Moon lander.
NASA awarded Blue Origin contracts worth approximately $280 million each for those
delivery missions. And Blue Origin isn't stopping there, the company is also developing a crewed
of Blue Moon capable of transporting astronauts. That vehicle is competing for future Artemis
missions alongside SpaceX's Starship. NASA currently aims for Artemis 3 around mid-2027.
The mission will involve critical docking demonstrations in Earth orbit between Orion
and privately developed lunar landers. And now we arrive at the really important part.
Because despite all these companies participating in the moon-based ecosystem,
there is one name quietly sitting at the center of almost every major logistical challenge.
Starship may not always be mentioned directly in NASA's moon-based plans,
but the dependency is obvious. Because the real challenge isn't reaching the moon once,
it's transporting enough people, cargo, and infrastructure there consistently enough to
build something permanent. And Starship was practically designed for exactly that role.
It's biggest advantage is scale, nothing else currently in development comes close.
Starship is designed to carry more than 100 tons to orbit, and with orbital refueling,
it could eventually deliver enormous amounts of cargo directly to the lunar surface.
That changes everything. A permanent moon base requires huge amounts of infrastructure,
habitats, power systems, mining equipment, laboratories, construction tools, food and
water systems, medical supplies. Traditional lunar landers simply cannot transport cargo
at that scale efficiently. Without Starship, NASA would likely need countless smaller missions
spread across many years. That dramatically increases cost and complexity, especially
while China accelerates its own lunar ambitions. But Starship's biggest advantage may come after
landing. Because the spacecraft itself can become infrastructure. Unlike traditional landers
designed mainly for transport, Starship's massive internal volume could allow it to function as a
That means every landing potentially adds usable infrastructure directly onto the moon.
Multiple Starships could eventually form interconnected surface habitats,
the first building blocks of a permanent lunar settlement. And this is where NASA's goals begin
overlapping directly with SpaceX's larger vision. NASA calls it a moon base. For SpaceX, it could
become the first large-scale testbed for a multi-planetary civilization. The moon offers
a perfect environment for testing technologies needed for future expansion beyond Earth.
Autonomous construction, resource extraction, fuel production, heavy cargo logistics,
long-term habitation. But perhaps Starship's most important advantage is scalability.
NASA no longer wants isolated lunar missions. The agency wants sustainable expansion. And
becomes impossible if every mission requires years of preparation and enormous costs.
SpaceX wants to change that completely through rapid reuse and high launch cadence.
If Starship succeeds, humanity could finally gain something it has never truly had before.
A functional transportation network between Earth and the moon. And that is a game changer.
Because at that point, a moon base stops behaving like a temporary outpost and starts becoming the
foundation of a real extraterrestrial economy. Of course, major challenges still remain. Orbital
refueling remains unproven at operational scale. Rapid reuse still needs demonstration. Reliability
remains critical. And FAA oversight continues shaping Starship's development timeline.
But if SpaceX succeeds, Starship could become nearly impossible to replace within NASA's
long-term lunar architecture. At that point, NASA may eventually need to redesign entire
portions of its moon-based architecture around Starship-level transportation capability.
And that possibility feels increasingly realistic. Because the scale of NASA's
ambitions is simply too large for small systems alone. Firefly, Blue Origin,
Astrolab, Lunar Outpost, all of them are becoming important pieces of this enormous
lunar ecosystem. But Starship remains the potential game-changer sitting at the center
of it all. Because ultimately, no large-scale moon base can exist without reliable heavy transport
between Earth and the lunar surface. And right now, Starship is the only vehicle openly aiming
for that level of capability. If SpaceX achieves rapid reuse and low-cost heavy transport,
the expansion of moon base could accelerate dramatically. And once that happens,
the global space race changes forever. The US accelerates, China accelerates,
private industry accelerates, everyone moves faster. Because suddenly, the race is no longer
about who lands first. It starts to become about who builds first, who scales first,
who creates the first permanent civilization beyond Earth. And truth be told, that may become
the single most important competition of the century. And that brings us to the end of today's
episode. Thank you so much for tuning in. As always, this has been Kevin from GreatSpaceX.
And until next time, keep looking up!