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I recently filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy
and in the process my car was repossessed.
So right now I only have $1,400 to my name
and I'm trying to figure out if I should use this check
to pay the back fees to get the vehicle back
or if I should just try and buy a vehicle in cash
or buy here, pay here.
Oh boy, I'm sorry that you're going through that.
So when they took the vehicle, have they already sold it?
Is there already a deficit for it
or what have they told you about it?
The vehicle right now is still on hold
so I'm still able to get it reinstated
but it would eat up that entire cash amount that I have.
Okay, is it just you?
Do you have kids?
Tell me more about your living situation.
Thankfully I do not have kids
so I only have to worry about myself.
My job is fairly flexible
but I do rely on my vehicle for my job
so it's hard for me to gauge how I should invest
or what the budget should be.
Okay, what do you make?
What is your monthly budget?
I make about $3,000 a month.
Okay, so you need the vehicle and it's gonna cost,
what's the exact amount that it's gonna cost to get it back?
Roughly $1,400 so it's everything, yeah.
And what, I mean, obviously,
I guess my question is what's changed in your situation?
Because what I'd rather do is maybe take this $1,400,
add a little bit more to it and get a beater
because what's changed about your situation
that you'd suddenly be able to afford this vehicle
is basically what I'm getting at.
Yeah, I guess nothing really has changed.
I had attempted to put some payments
towards the end of the loan
and so I'm already kind of in a deficit as is.
And right now, I guess like 1,400 is impossible for cash.
It's mostly like vehicles with parts.
So that's kind of where I'm struggling
as far as what budget would even be wise
to look for as far as those.
But let's say you blow all your cash
and get this thing back.
You have no emergency fund, you have nothing.
You just get this car back.
What in your life changes that says
you're gonna be able to make the payment next month?
They just took it from you
because you couldn't make the payment.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's true.
What's the vehicle worth before they took it?
It's worth $10,000.
And what did you owe?
But with like 10,500
and when I looked at the total loan,
it said I would end up paying 20,000.
And the only reason I've been so attached to it
is because it's a Toyota
and I know they can last a long time.
So I guess I'm sort of afraid of that.
What was the payment before all this repo business?
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What was the payment before all this repo business?
336 a month.
Okay, so we were struggling to pay 336 a month.
Now I know you said you filed Chapter 7.
Has that already gone through?
What's that look like for you?
What's the payment?
Is there a monthly payment that you're making on everything
or did they just take everything?
Tell me where you're at in that.
I just filed, so they took my vehicle on Thursday
and then, or they took my vehicle on Wednesday,
I filed on Thursday, and now they won't release it to me.
What's your financial picture
that you had to file bankruptcy?
Oh, so mostly because of my job, it's contract work.
So whenever I am working, it's based on clients
and we've been having issues with insurance,
with UnitedHealthcare, dropping people.
So it kind of fluctuates.
So when I say I make 3,000 a month,
that's really just an average.
I know, that's not what I'm asking.
How much do you owe?
Yeah, when you file bankruptcies,
usually you have a bunch of debt
that you're trying to clear out.
So we're trying to find out what debt did you have
and where did it come from?
Oh, it was mostly credit cards.
I had probably around $60,000 in credit card debt.
I have 90,000 in student loans, 10,000 on my vehicle.
And then I also had a $20,000 personal loan.
Okay, so the student loans remain.
And so what was cleared was the 60, the 10, and the 20.
Obviously they took the vehicle.
So when you file, they were gonna take the car anyway.
You know, like that was gonna happen anyway.
So you still got the $90,000 of student loans
and now you just have no car to get to work, right?
Is that where we're at today?
Yes.
Okay, so I stand by what I said.
I think they probably took this car.
Yeah, they might come after you for a deficit,
but I don't think the solution for you
is to go back to paying a car payment.
I think the solution for you is to go,
all right, I've got 3,000 bucks that I make a month.
I've gotta work like a crazy person,
even if I need to take the bus for now,
and I need to stack up like 4,000 bucks.
I've got 14,000.
Let me see if I can double that.
1,400, yeah.
1,400, I'm sorry.
Let me see if I can double that very quickly.
There are $3,000 beaters out there.
Just so you know, the car that I drive,
it's a Cadillac SRX, it's a 2013.
It's worth $1,500.
I've just had it for a really long time.
If I sold it today,
whoever bought it would be getting a steal.
But that's what it's worth.
Well, if you're selling it, I'm buying.
I'm just letting you know they're out there.
So don't, you have to look for them, you know.
Like a private dealer, probably?
Yes, private sale.
A Facebook marketplace.
Go to a church, say, hey,
is there anybody here selling a car?
I'm in a bad jam.
I mean, I got 3,000 bucks.
Who can sell me their car, right?
And I think, you know, yeah, look for a Toyota.
Look for a Nissan.
Look for a Honda.
Don't get a HHR.
Yeah, or a square Kia with one button
that just plays house music.
Hey, okay, so what do you do for a living?
I'm a mental health professional.
So I work with the youth, they're in home,
and I help them before they go into like a facility
or foster care or something like that.
Are you licensed?
And then I also-
Do you have an LPC or an LMFT or something?
I'm working towards that.
No, right now I just have a QMHP,
but I'm getting my master's in order to be in a practice.
Okay, so you're continuing to add
to this $90,000 student loan debt?
Unfortunately, yes.
Okay, here's essentially what you've done
with the bankruptcy.
You've never turned the faucet off.
And so the faucet that buried you up to your eyeballs
in debt that you called and you filed bankruptcy for,
they came with a big bucket
and took some of that water out,
but that faucet is still going full blast.
Yeah.
You're gonna find yourself in this exact same situation.
And if you are able to navigate that system,
which is a nightmare, helping those kids out,
what that means is you have skills
that a local school district would want.
If even if you had to go be a teacher
on an emergency certification,
if you had to go help out as a part-time social worker,
here's what I'm trying to tell you.
You can't just sit there and say,
well, they're taking my jobs away
and I guess I'm just gonna live in la-la land.
You've got to start taking your skillset
and start hitting the streets,
trying to find places where you can work.
And you've got too much value to add.
Can I tell you my long-term goal?
Here's the thing, and I say this out of respect,
it doesn't matter what your long-term goal is right now
because you're like trying to explain to me and Jade
what your beach house is gonna look like
and your boat sank out from underneath you
in the middle of the ocean.
You gotta swim to shore first.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Well, I plan to move to a different location
to get more clients in June.
So that's kind of why I'm like-
That's great, but even if you max out your earning potential,
what is the max on your job?
50 grand, 60 grand?
Yeah, that's true.
And you're gonna owe 125 when you're all said and done?
Schedules, yeah.
I mean-
I definitely need more income.
You've set yourself up with a vicious math problem
and your heart is too good
and your skillset is too necessary
for you to chain yourself to this
and then go out in the world and say,
hey, I'm here to help.
You get what I'm saying?
And so I think all of you, your future dreams,
your clients that you're serving now and in the future,
everybody is served if you just hit pause for a second
and clean up the mess, the big hole you've dug yourself.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you're worth that.
It'll be real, real, real, real hard.
Jade, people get like a picture
of what they want their life to be
and it's like, I'm gonna do anything I can do to get there.
Yeah.
And man, on the way, you find yourself in a real mess.
Yeah, she can get out of this mess though.
I believe you can.
You've just gotta start doing different things
if you want different results.
You gotta stop borrowing money.
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