Sitting down with David Dobrik’s ex wife - AGT Podcast

Today's podcast is brought to you by Everyplay. Get $1.49 per meal when you use my code GOODTHINGS149. And SeatGeek. Get $20 off your first order when you use my code NASH. Okay, back to the podcast. All right, guys, what's up? Welcome back to the All Good Things Podcast. My guest today is, what can I say? This is the person who made me who I am. The person who did everything for me in life. And now she's here on the podcast. We didn't speak about her holding a microphone before. So I'm not sure you're going to be able to hear her today. But here she is, Lorraine Nash. We need to turn it on? Yeah, turn it on. It's on. Okay. Hello. How are you? Hello. You look great. Oh, thank you. I try. What are you here to promote today? Are you getting this side? Well, there's no cameras here. So are you getting my profile? Okay. Well, that's one camera as a profile. And then your main camera's here, Mom. You see that one? Oh, yeah, that's what I thought. Okay. All right. Well, hi. How are you, Jay? You look great. Did you do your makeup and stuff in your hair? I did the makeup because of tonight. Oh, well, tell everybody where we're going tonight. We're going to the 80 for Brady premiere. Oh, my God. I can't wait. That's going to be fun. Are you excited? Yes, very excited. I got a text today from the people at Paramount. Yes. That Tom Brady is supposed to be there. He's coming? Yes! So the Paramount people, they called and they said, oh, we have this movie. It's called 80 for Brady. So they flew you out to come here and to go to the premiere. And we're going to leave in like an hour. And we'll be able to report next week to see. Yeah, and I'm very excited. You are? I am very excited. What would you say to Tom if you got a chance to talk to Tom Brady? You're number one. I think I would cry. Why would you cry? Because he's so perfect. Yeah? He is pretty perfect. Obviously, he's not perfect. He's not a perfect human being. No one's perfect. I mean, you know, nobody's... Pretty close. Nobody's perfect in that sense. But in terms of from where he started to where he is now, I mean, how can anybody say one bad thing about him? Yeah, incredible. You know what I mean? Like even with social media. And he was not drafted. He was not a high draft pick. 1999. 199, yeah. Yeah. And he made it. And he was thin and he was skinny. And he didn't have the physique that he has now. I mean, he just worked day and night. And he's very dedicated. And during the season, he sacrifices all the delicious foods. He eats avocado ice cream because he wants to be healthy and stay in shape. And he loves the sport so much. And I don't know anyone that's worked as hard as him. And then forget about his seven rings. Forget about how handsome he is. But the real best part about Tom Brady is him as a person. Yeah. And what kind of person is he? He's an amazing human being. Is he? Yeah. He gave up his part of his salary to build the team. Who does that? What other sports, what other sports figure or quarterback. Right. In your lifetime, have you heard of giving up money? This part of their salary. Yeah, it's pretty rare. To build the team. He doesn't own, Bob Kraft owns the Patriots. He doesn't have any interest. Yeah. That's why I like him. Yeah, that's good. That's why I like him. He's a good person. And he always remembers to say hi to his parents and his kids and, you know, his family. Yeah. And he's just a good person. And it's just like, I don't think he should be like, I don't like to hear people put him down. On the local news station in Boston, somebody said some negative things about Tom Brady. Yeah. And you wrote this person. First time I ever did this in my life. You wrote him an email. Like I have never, honest to God, like I have never ever in my life. I'm just not like that type of person. I'm not that like out there. And I just said, you know, shame on you. Shame of you. Did you use those words? Shame on you. I did, yeah. Shame on you. All that Tom Brady has done for this city and for the Boston Patriots. And I should have said, he makes your salary because you wouldn't have a job without Tom Brady. They wouldn't have anyone watching. But here's the thing. You don't have to be negative about someone. Or if you do want to make a statement, then just, it's how you say it and when you say it. And still be nice about it. And you got an answer back from this reporter. And he emailed me back and he said that he was going to try to be more thoughtful. And he apologized. I felt like it was okay for me to, like I know him, you know. And because I like him, I think I was able to. People do that all the time with people they watch. That's called a parasocial relationship. Right. I watch him, I watch him two times a night. And you've seen it. Seven o'clock news, the 11 o'clock news. And you've seen a change in his reporting since then. About Tom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything else is great. Yeah. No, he's very, he is very careful. And he knows. He knows. He knows what? You'll come after him? No, I know. I think he knows that he needs, you know, what I, I think he realizes what I said is true. Right. So you're out, you're out here in LA. Yeah. You're visiting. You get to see your grandchildren. That makes you happy. Oh, the best. The best. Yeah. And. Actually, I didn't come out for 80 for Brady. I came out because the last time Charlie and you guys came for the holidays. Yeah. Charlie was upset and she didn't want to leave. And I promised her that I would. I said, I promise I'll come. And she said, pinky promise. And I can't break a pinky promise. Like, I just can't break a pinky promise. Right. And the thing is, I used to come like, I used to come and stay three or four weeks in January. And then with COVID, and then I had surgery. And so I really haven't been here since like, what? January of 2020. It's been a while. About three years. Yeah. And you saw, you surprised David the other day. Yeah. What happened? Um, I had my sunglasses on and I had my mask and I had this little hat on. And he was, we were at Joe Brooks Pizza, which by the way is delicious. Anyways, so we went over there and he happened to be there. So that's where we went to surprise him. Yeah. And he was passing out pizza, a new kind of pizza to try. And I just turned around and said, can I have a slice? And you know, it's hard to, it's hard to surprise David. He's not easy. No, no. You know what I mean? Like he's very smart. He's very observant and he's very aware. Yeah. And I was really surprised that he was surprised and that I, and that I could surprise him. So that was a lot of fun. And I, I love David. He's like part of our family. Yeah. So what were you like growing up? What kind of kid were you? Quiet, very shy. You were? Extremely shy. You were shy? Well, I don't believe that. Well, I was the youngest in my family of all the cousins, you know, and so, yeah, I was like the youngest in my family. And so I couldn't get a word in edgewise. I was very shy, extremely shy, quiet. And then when you met, you met dad when you were 14. Yes. Right. And what was that like? You fell in love with him. We were friends for a long, long time. And then, you know, in those days you didn't live with someone. Right. You either got married or you moved on. Right. So? So there was, you got to be 21 and you got married. Right. Yes. And that was something that you wanted to do? Or you felt like you had to because you just wanted to get out of your parents' house? Yeah, pretty much. Okay. And in those days we did what our parents expected of us. Yes. We really didn't, you know, have our own dreams. We lived our parents' dreams. Yeah. And the older sister's dreams, like I have an older sister. So she, everything she did, I was supposed to follow. I was the rebel in my family, I'll tell you that. You were? I'm definitely the rebel, yeah. Really? So you were doing your own thing? Thinking out of the box? I just wanted to live my own life and not be committed to doing, you know, what I felt I didn't, I just wanted to live more organically than have a plan and follow in someone's footsteps. You know what I mean? I mean, everybody just got married and they had a family and I, and I just always felt not that I, I mean, you know how much I love my family. You know how much I like you? Of course. But I don't think that's all that I can do. I didn't think that's all that I could do. Yeah. What did you want to do? What did you have dreams to do? Get a house on the ocean and write. Yeah? Yeah. But then my parents said to me, get a real job. So when I said to you, I want to get a house on the ocean and write, why did you say go for it? I was shocked because I don't think I ever told you that. Like I, you didn't know that that's what I wanted to do. No. And for you to just tell me you wanted to be a writer. Oh yeah. I mean, it was, it was quite a moment for me. Yeah. Because I was living. I think that's, I think that that is true. I was living my dream through you. You were accomplishing what I never got to do. Yeah. Which was really nice for me and for you because you knew that I supported you. And I wasn't, I wasn't supported in a lot of the time. No, you weren't. In the things that I want. But that was a very normal thing. I feel that way. When I watch Wyatt play music, we went to his show the other night. I thought, oh, it's, it's like, I'm, I'm up there doing it. Exactly. And in a little way, it's interesting. Yeah. Because, you know, it's like, I would have loved to have learned to play an instrument and been in a band, but I never was. Don't tell me that. Huh? Don't tell me that. Well, why? I wasn't good at it. Because when I handed you the guitar. No, I know I couldn't do it. You could have been. No, I didn't have the patience for it. Okay. I didn't have the patience for it. I wish you had though. I wish I had too. I wish you would try. It's my one regret. Yeah. In life is not learning the piano. Even just to play just for fun. Or even the guitar. The guitar would have been enough. Just strumming, just strumming a guitar is good. I can't do it. I don't know. But it is what it is. There's going to come a time in your life when you're not running around trying to support your family. Yeah. And there's going to come a time when you're going to pick up a guitar and you're going to do it. Yeah, maybe. I know there is. I heard you. I overheard you upstairs talking to my sister, Barry. And you said, Barry, it's crazy here. It's crazy. And what did you mean by that? Well, because you don't stop. Right. Tell everybody what life is like here. So you wake up. No, I should tell everybody first what life is at home. Yeah. Tell everybody what life is at home. So life at home is. What is life at home like? I wake up. I prepare the coffee the night before. You live in an apartment, a cute little apartment. It's great. Very small. Yeah. Nice town. Great town. Oh, yeah. Awesome town. Boston's great. The suburbs of Boston's really nice. Yeah. Very safe. So I live alone and I live in an apartment and I wake up and I always prepare the coffee the night before. So I just press the button. Yeah. You know, there's a timer. Yes, I know that. But I don't know what time I feel like getting up. I got you. Oh, boy. Hey. Hey, we're living now. Do you know how many years? What time I feel like it? Do you know how many years? I know. I jumped out of bed and jumped in the shower and New York was on the phone and they said, you got to catch the plane into, you know, I had a drive to Maine. You've earned it. I've earned it. You've earned it. I do think I do. For sure. So anyways, I press the button and I put my music on. And lately I've been putting Wyatt's music on because his voice and his music is outstanding and I can't believe it. I mean, I just can't believe it. It's unreal what he's doing. As talented as he is. So talented. Great big cow. So anyways, I sometimes I listen, a lot of the time I listen to Wyatt's music. Or I'll listen to my own, you know, I love, I love music and I'll just listen to music. Classical? Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes it's Billy Joel. Billy Joel. Elton John. I love Billy Joel. Yep. Billy Joel is one of my favorites. Elton John, Aerosmith. I mean, all of them. Bon Jovi, all of them. Chris Martin. Yeah. Coldplay. I mean, all of them are great. Yeah. Okay. And then what? And what do you do? And then I just, I just like chill out and wake. I take a long time to wake up in the morning. I'm not a morning person. That's why here. I am not a morning person. Yeah. I take a long time to wake up. Because I jump out of bed and I'm gone. I go. But you're not, you're not a morning. You do it because you push yourself to do it. Right, right, right. I'm a morning person. Are you? Okay. Yeah. I work out in the morning because I, I'm afraid the day will get past me and I won't get to go. Yeah. Okay. And then here on the other hand is you wake up, you have a sip of coffee. You don't even get to finish a cup. You have a sip of coffee. And the next thing you are, you know, you're off and running like a racehorse. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. We're going to go over here. We're going to go over there. So it's, it's taxing. I mean, it's wonderful, but, but LA is fun. And I like the people I like. You know what I like about LA? I love every one of your friends. Oh yeah, yeah. It's not that I love LA. It's just that your friends are so great that I miss, I miss, like when I come here, I'm, I'm really excited to see everyone. All of them. Yeah. All of them. There's not one that I. Who's your favorite? Oh, I don't know. I don't want to say. I don't want, I don't want to say. I know who your favorite is. We don't have to say. I like them. I like them all for different reasons, I guess. Sure. They're all real sweet. They all have their own personality, you know? And of course I feel like David is part of our family. And I'll always feel that way about David. Yeah. He's just a good soul. It was nice the other day we went to see a wedding venue. Yep. We were going to go and I was going to drive Naveen and you to, to Malibu. And I said, oh, do you want to come? And then David just drove us, which was like so nice. It was like, it was like being with family. It is. Like old times. Yeah. When I'm with David, I really do feel like he's part of our family. Yeah. Even though he's a stinker. Remember when you were going down the stairs and he says, we went and saw this like, we went and saw this mansion. And my mother, there's a movie room downstairs. And so my, my, my mother, you know, it takes time for her to get down the stairs and she doesn't just fly down there. And so David is behind her going, oh Jesus, come on, Lorraine take forever. Yeah. Well, I had these boots on and they're slippery. So we don't want you to fall. Yeah. And quite honestly, you know, I'm not 25 anymore. No, I can barely go down them too. Yeah. But I mean, I, I get his personality and maybe that's why I, maybe someone would be like offended in, in some kind of way, but. No, no, no. That kind of, that kind of humor is just really funny. You get that kind of humor. You, that's one thing about you is that I, I always knew you as my mother, just being this incredible mother, but it wasn't until I got to be a lot older when I realized what an incredible person you are. Oh, do you know, that's the nicest compliment anybody could ever receive. Thank you. Yeah. That's so nice. I really, it was, it wasn't until I was older that I realized that, my God, she's incredible. You're just incredible. You're, you're, you're so wonderful the way you talk to people. And the other day we went in and you, Taylor came out with a jewelry line a month ago or whatever. And it came to the house and I, and I never even mentioned it to Taylor. She sent it for Charlie, which was really nice. And I never even mentioned it, but you walked in. The first thing you said was, Taylor, I saw your jewelry line. And you just make everybody feel good. You know, you're always thinking about everybody, asking about people. Where does that come from? I think my, I think Papa was like that. My father was. Oh, right. Was he like that? Yeah. He always picked up the check. He always was tipped. Always felt bad for the waiters. Overtipped. Oh, yeah. He was, he's just a really solid person. Yeah. Just a solid self-made person. What do you think about generosity? I think we all, I think we all need to share more. Yeah. I think we all live in a world where we all feel entitled. And we're not entitled to anything. Right. And I think the harder you work for something, the more you appreciate it. And I think, you know, it's just, it's just funny now. Because, like, if you don't work hard for, okay, let me, let me just ask you. You've worked really hard. I know, I know personally what you've been through. Sitting on a couch. I know what you went through. Sure. And what you're still going through, actually. Yeah. Doesn't it feel good that you went through all that? You don't learn from your success. You learn from your failures. For sure. Like, going so many years trying to make it as a stand-up or as an actor. And then when YouTube hit, like it hit for me, you know. There's like this. You couldn't believe it. And you didn't take it for granted. And you still don't take it for granted. There's something nice about not taking stuff for granted. Like, you really don't take it for granted. And I'll see people who are younger that take it for granted. And there's something really fulfilling about that. About being, like, just like knowing, like, oh, wow. Like, I'm so lucky. You put the time in. Yeah, like you can feel it, you know. And you can say that. And you say, oh, I'm grateful. And I'm lucky. People talk, talk, talk. But you really, when you feel it and when you really, like, know that, oh, man. Like, thank God this is here. And I worked for this, you know. I worked for this. It's a nice feeling. Yeah, it is. It is good. I mean, I just think you can't take anything for granted. Because we only have today. We only have the present. Yeah. Today's podcast is brought to you by EveryPlate. Get $1.49 per meal when you use my code GOODTHINGS149. And as you guys know, I've been on a body transformation last year. And I'm trying to keep it. I'm trying to stay at this weight. 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So what, I want Barry to watch this and say, oh, wow. You know, like. Barry was funny today. Yeah. She said, tell them what you used to do when we were kids. And I didn't and I didn't even really remember this. She said, if they want to get to know who you are. Yeah. People want to get to know who you are. She's so smart. Yeah. Tell them, tell them that this sums up who you are. When it was my birthday, Jason picked, I gave Jason a gift. Oh, yeah. And when it was Jason's birthday, he gave me a gift. So that the other child didn't feel left out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because one was getting all the presents and the other one was just watching. Yeah. So she said, that kind of sums up if you want to know, if they want to get to know you. That's, and I do feel that way about sharing. It makes it more fun to share. Yeah. You know? Yeah, really nice. I do. I think sharing makes it more fun. I think if you hoard stuff and you keep things to yourself and, and this is psychologically too. I think materially, psychologically, I think it's always, you get so much more out of sharing. Even your problems. Yeah, it's true. Why are you crying? I'm just, I'm just thinking about you, you know, you're just the best. God, I just, I can't even believe, this is crazy. I was crying yesterday. God, you're just the best. I just, I wish, I wish people could, I wish, I wish I could explain what you did for me. That's all. But it's, it's too hard to explain. Okay. So, all right. So what I did for you, I'm watching you do for Wyatt. And I told Wyatt that. No, it's different. It's, it's not. No, you didn't, you didn't have a, you didn't have an education. You, you were on your own. I was, I was a single mom. Yeah, you had me and you had Barry. We lived in a little apartment. I had jobs. I mean, I had good jobs. I was lucky. I really felt. You, you know, you busted your butt. I made the most of my. You worked as a. I worked in the cosmetic industry. The cosmetics industry. I was the account executive for New England. We used to, used to go to the mall. I used to go to the mall with you. And I would help the training and do, train the makeup artists. I would go to the mall with you. I would go into the makeup mall and you'd say, okay, go take a walk. Go take a walk around the mall. And the first walk around the mall is great. When you're, you know, 13, you're like, oh, this is great. The mall, you know? So I walk into the mall. I'm going to all the stores. I'm having a blast, right? And you go to the, you go to the cool malls. You went to the nice malls where they sell. Oh yeah. Fancy makeup. Sexy. Yeah. So I go to Spencer gifts and I loved it. I go to the toy store. Then I come back. I need a little more time. Then I take a second walk in the mall. And then maybe by like, you know, the fourth or fifth walk in the mall. I'm like, oh man, I gotta get out of the mall. Yeah. That's one thing I remember, but not that it was bad. I was with you at least. Well, now I wouldn't want you to be in the mall because the mall was awful. What's wrong with the mall? Oh, cause it's crazy. A lot of crazies. Oh no, no. A lot of crazy people in the mall. Yeah. But you really, you really just, you know, you just did so much for me. I did what a mother is supposed to do. Yeah. But so many mothers are. They don't, but that doesn't make. It's not even that. I did what I was supposed to do. No, it's not that. There's plenty of mothers that provide for their kids. That's, that's fine. But you never, you never, you never were passive aggressive or you never were jealous or you never were nasty. You were always just, even if you had the worst day, you know, you would come home and just turn it all off. You do that with Charlie. I see you do it every day. And Wyatt, she lights up your life. When you love someone. Now you, you're going to agree with me. Yeah. When you love someone that selflessly and that much and they walk into the room, you could, you could be dying of the most biggest terminal illness and that just goes away. And all you see is that person that you love unconditionally. At least that's the way I. And I guess like love is different to different people. Love you. Do you really love that person? Are you willing to go through thick and thin with that person? I took Charlie to school this morning and she wanted a, she likes these like frappuccino jarred coffee drinks that you buy and you can only get them at one place at the gas station. And then I went in and I just don't have much to say to her these days. I don't know how to talk to her or whatever. Just be there. So I went in, we were silent in the thing, silent in the car. And then I went in and I bought, and then I was walking out and I realized I bought seven frappuccinos, you know, like it just subconsciously, you know, and I gave her the seven frappuccinos. She only wanted one. And I said, Oh, I got, I got you a stash. She said, Oh wow. Thanks so much. I said, I'll put the other ones in the fridge. But that was all, that was the only thing I could, you know, that was my only way of connecting with her. It was like, you know. Okay. So she's 14. Right. You don't have to worry about a thing. You've already done your work. Oh, interesting. Hitler used to say the first seven years of a child's life is when he wants, give me a child for the first seven years, you can have him for the rest of his life. Yeah. That's what he did. He wanted to wipe out everybody and make everybody. Give me a second. The same. I thought you were going to say Dr. Phil or Oprah. So Hitler's got great, he knows how to raise a child. No, he wanted to. I get it. The seven years is the most important. The first, okay. Cut all that out. The first seven years of a child's life is what's important. That's where they form their values. Right. It's interesting the way to look at it. That's where they form their character. By the time they're 15 and you say, oh, I want to be your friend. Forget about it. They don't want to be your friend. They don't even know who you are because you haven't spent a minute with them. Yeah. You need to listen more. Shut up and listen. I told Stephen that. The parent needs to shut up and listen. Interesting. The fact that you were quiet is a good thing. How do you feel at this age? You're going to be 79 in a week. You feel like the time flew. Yeah. The only way I can really accept it, because getting older, you're running out of time, but the way I can accept it is I wouldn't want it to be 20 years ago because I wouldn't have had Wyatt and Charlie. Yeah. That's how I- Isn't that interesting? Yeah. I mean, I've got Wyatt and Charlie and I try to make the most of that. Yeah. You brought me lobster once in the dorm. I moved into UMass Amherst. I was a freshman and I was new to the dorm and Jeff was sitting there with me, my new friend, and I said, my mom is coming up from- Oh no, I called you. I was working. I had an account up in- In Hartford. The area. Yeah. And I stayed at the Marriott up in very close to UMass and Amherst. It's the kind of person my mother is, Mitch. And I said, I'm going to be in town. Do you want to have dinner? And you said, oh, I'm loaded with work. Yeah. And then I said, okay. So I ordered room service and I ordered baked stuff lobster and I ordered everything- Yeah. That I felt like having. And then while I was waiting for them to bring it, because I ordered it. I had already ordered it, but they hadn't brought it yet. And so you called and you said, you know what? I really would like to see you. And I got a lot of work done fast. And so, yeah. Yeah. Come on, come to the dorm. Yeah. And I said, okay. So I had my carry on, my little wheelie. And I waited for the lobster to come with the silver cover. I put everything in and I got on the elevator and I walked through the lobby. They must've thought, what's that smell? Walking through the lobby. And then I walked into your dorm and I said to, you said, this is Jeff. And I said, hi. And I gave Jeff a big hug. And then I started taking this big gourmet dinner. And Jeff said to me, will you call my mother and be friends with her? It was pretty great to get lobster in the dorm. I have to say. That was funny. He was like, what? Yeah. I was like, who is this lady? It's really funny. I wanted to do a segment with you on the podcast really quick. It's Lorraine's Hollywood Minute. And I want you to, I know you're very abreast on all the Hollywood stars. Something that you keep up with a lot. Well, I don't, my memory's not good. Is there anything happening? If you ask me the one thing about getting old that's hard is my memory, remembering. Oh, yeah. I think your memory's really good. No, not really. I used to have a photogenic memory and I used to have a strong memory and I don't anymore. So I forget names. It'll come back. They'll come to me. What's going on with one of your favorites, Jennifer Lopez? Can you tell us, Lorraine? Can you tell us the report? She just got married in Georgia. Who did she get married to? Ben Affleck, who she was engaged to a long time ago. They were engaged. And you love Ben Affleck. I like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon because they're from Boston. I like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon a lot. I like them both. They're just as people. But they're great people because they're from Boston. They've got that cultural, friendly, nice, laid back feeling. What do you think happened with J.Lo and Ben Affleck? I think the paparazzi screwed them up. They were together the first time when they were in their 30s. They were engaged. I think it's a good thing that they didn't get married then. You do. I really do. This is one of my favorite things to do is to talk to my mom about celebrities that we don't know. And we kind of got to just guess what we think. Let me tell you what I think. They're both great. They're both beautiful people and let's go. Let me tell you what I think. It's one of my favorite things to do. So getting back to the idea that you appreciate more after you've experienced life when you're older and you've had a chance to date some frogs, that's when you appreciate the prince. So I don't think it would have lasted then. I think it is going to last now because they have a better appreciation for each other. And so that goes back to my theory that when the worst thing in the world happens to you, like you have a broken engagement, suck it up and say it's meant to be. If something happens, it's supposed to happen that way. If the most traumatic thing in your life happens, it's okay because one day you're going to look back and say, if that didn't happen, I wouldn't be where I am today. It got me here today. So if you say, what would you change in your life? A lot of people say, I wouldn't change a thing because it got me who I am today. It got me here. And I think that's the case. As much as I would have loved Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez to make it back then, I don't think they would have. There would have been too much pressure. If they hadn't been smart enough to break the engagement and they went through with the marriage, they would have been destroyed by the papa. They would have ripped them to shreds. Yeah, that's interesting. And plus, I think they were both young. I think Ben was young. I think from what I've read about Ben, he's matured a lot more. I don't think he was mature enough to be married. I can only speak for my own thing. Being older now, let's say Ben Affleck and I are similar in age, at least. He's a hell of a lot more handsome. But I know now that I'm engaged. You appreciate it. I just appreciate it so much. All the years I spent alone after I got divorced and being alone. And I got good with being alone. And you have to find the right person, too. I think that's really key, too. Somebody wrote on my Instagram yesterday, they were like, I want to meet somebody. And you really got to make yourself good. Got to get yourself to a place. And then I think that's the only way. Spending all that time by myself. You have to work on yourself. Yeah, and not really. Because I was like, OK, I'll just be alone for the rest of my life. That's fine. I was fine with it. I really was. I was good. I watched Caribbean Enthusiasm and go to bed. You just weren't ready. And it wasn't a bad thing. It wasn't even about anybody. It was about you. You just weren't ready. Yeah, I think guys are really dumb. They're not dumb, but they just mature a lot later. I went in when Charlie was in first grade. I brought her into the class. They had a little parent's day. She looks amazing. You know, Marnie dresses are perfect. She's unbelievable. She's a little six, five, seven years old. I get to the school. I don't know where the class is. Daddy, I'll show you where the class is. This is where I do this. This is where I do that. She's walking around showing me everything. We get into the class and they say, all right, everybody come sit in a circle. And then I look at all the girls and all the girls look like Charlie. And then I get to the first boy. It's the same age. The kid starts talking. You know, they can't even form a word. Like the boy is so far behind picking his nose. And all the boys are just like, they look like gremlins. That's why, you know. They're the same age. This is the boys in her class. That's why usually girls will wind up with guys a couple of years older than them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that theory, you know. Right. That they're more mature. I think with your father and I, what made a difference was I went to therapy and he chose not to. And the therapist told me everything in life is going to be easy breezy for me other than death and taxes. Yeah. And that your father would get there. He'll get there. But it will be a lot more taxing. You were way ahead on the therapy game. Like you went to therapy in the 80s, right? Yeah. Did people balk at that? Did they go, well, Lorraine, what are you doing going to therapy? I never asked. I never cared. Who cares? Who gives a crap? Good for you. You're good like that. You don't really care what people think. I don't follow the crowd. No. And I never would. No. Isn't that interesting? I'm my own drummer. I do my own thing. You have any advice for me? Yeah, I told you and Naveen. Treat each other like it's the last time you're ever going to see each other. Every day of your life. Every day. No matter what you're going through. You can't love someone if you don't respect them. It's just not possible. Even Charlie deserves respect. Even kids, teenagers deserve to be respected. Of course. And heard. And you don't really know how to love if you don't know how to respect someone. Because that comes hand in hand. So treat each other like it's the last time you're going to ever see each other. Or treat each other like the day you got engaged. You know what I mean? Like just always remember how what a gift you are to each other. And nothing else. Everything else falls short of that, right? You're having a bad day. Somebody cut you off. You lost your job. You lost all your money. Does that give you the right to take it out on the person that's the most important person in the world to you? Come home and have misdirected anger? Because the truth is when you have an argument with someone it's usually that you truly love. If you're in love with somebody and you really love them. And you start to be mean and argue with them. It's really misdirected anger. You need to go to a therapist. You need to figure out what's going on with you. It's about you. Okay listen we've got to get to Tom Brady. I got to get you on the red carpet. All right guys that is the podcast. Thank you so much for watching. This is my mom. Go. I hope you weren't bored. Into the mic. I hope you weren't bored. I hope it wasn't boring. It wasn't boring. People want to. You know what's great about you? I was thinking this the other day. Like you're like you're just such a great buffer. Like when you're here. Like it's so great when you're here. Because like we'll be in the car. And like when you're in the car with David. Like David and I might not have like something to say to each other. You know like it's awkward sometimes. Because he doesn't know what to say to me. And I don't know I've known him for so long. And our age difference. But you'll just come right in. Just be like so David. How many snapchats you gonna do today? I save it all up. And he'll answer you you know. And he's forced to. And he loves it. He thinks it's funny like me. But that's why it's great when you're here. I wish I want to move you out here. I think you really should come out here for good. What do you think? Are you ready? Ready for the star's life? I'll visit a lot more I think now. Now that. Maybe Tom will take you away today. I think that Tom is gonna have people lined up. No. I don't think he's ready. And I don't think he will. He's not ready for you. No. No he's not ready for you. I'll tell you. No finish what you're gonna say. I'll tell you something. I think he's not going to connect with anybody for a long while. I think he understands that you know. No I'm gonna make sure. He needs some time. I'm gonna make sure you meet Tom Brady tonight. Mark my words. It's gonna happen. Thank you. We love you guys. Always. Thank you for watching these podcasts. And we just love you so much. Thanks for watching this episode. This episode means so much to me. Mom you are the absolute best best person. You've done everything for me. And I hope I make you proud. Make me proud every day of your life. I'm so so so grateful for everything that you've done for me. And I just love you so much. Love you too. And I'm so grateful that you're here today right now. And we can still have more good times. Yes. I love you. And I love and I love you too. And I'm I feel so blessed. Sometimes I think it's a dream. I feel that way too. Sometimes I think I'm dreaming. You know. It's really nice that we have each other. To have a family. Children and grandchildren that are just so nice in every way. Mom we gotta go. We gotta get to Tom. I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm sorry. Bye. Love you guys.