Dennis Discusses Chaos in Minnesota, the Supreme Court and His New Book

So Dennis, before we get started with the important things, I'd like to let you know that my poodle Teddy would like to register a complaint about your new book. I don't blame him. I think it was a mistake on your part to even tell him about my book, because what triggered it is the one question I have asked young people for literally 55 years and have gotten the same responses for 55 years. Would you save your dog that you love or a stranger if both were drowning? Which would you say first? And, you know, people try, they try to get around it. Well, my dog can swim or whatever they figure out. But I'm assuming the dog can't swim and the stranger can't swim. And in every, virtually every instance, one third voted for the stranger, one third for their dog, and one third just didn't know what to answer. They were conflicted. In one instance, I've always asked this generally of high school students, but one time at a synagogue in New York City, I was talking to, I don't know, I assume these kids were like 10 years old and I didn't even expect to do this, but they had me do it anyway. So I asked them the question, one kid, not one third, one kid said he would save the stranger. So I said, why? And he said, because my pet is a goldfish. Oh, no. So for those who want to know why we're talking about this important story, you have completed your book. It's pre-sale right now on Amazon. It should be available later in Q1. And I'd love to hear more about your book and why is this story about saving a stranger versus your dog so important to this book? Right. So the title of the book is If There Is No God, dot, dot, dot, the battle over who defines good and evil. What we have today is feelings versus moral truths. We don't have it in math. If you feel that two and two is five, it's irrelevant. But if you feel in the moral realm, that's perfectly legitimate. In other words, we acknowledge scientific and mathematical truths, but we don't acknowledge moral truths. And there are only moral truths if there is a God. Otherwise, all morality is feeling. And people have to recognize that. So here is the way it works. If there is a God, there is good and evil. They really exist. There are moral truths. And if there are moral truths, then there is a God. If you claim that certain things are good, certain things are evil, independent of how you feel about it, you are, in effect, affirming God. So Dennis, what's amazing is that you completed this book while in the hospital, and it obviously shows how dedicated you are to the message in the book. Who do you think the book is for? Who are you envisioning reading this book? These are 50 years of challenges to me. Plus, I added questions that were not even asked, but tough questions to challenge my ideas even more. So it's for everybody. It's for religious people who don't know how to make the case. And it's for non-religious people who just assume that morality is a matter of opinion. It is for everybody. HarperCollins, they think highly enough of the book to have given me a serious advance. And the editor there, the lead editor, one of the biggest publishing companies, said it was the most important book about God since C.S. Lewis. That's quite a thing, and he's a Christian who said that. So I hope a lot of people read it because the moral confusion of our times is a religious confusion. There is a great quote I have cited so often. It's attributed to G.K. Chesterton, but nobody really knows who came up with it. And it is, when people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing. They believe in anything. That is why people believe a man can become a woman. Now, a man can think he's a woman. You can think you're anything, but you can't become a woman, and a woman cannot become a man. We live in the age of absurdity, and it has everything to do with secularism. Religious people don't believe a man could become a woman. So that's the world we live in. You know, I have a lot of friends who are coming closer to God. Maybe there is a religious revival. It partially has to do with the murder of Charlie Kirk, partially, I think, with all the chaos that they're experiencing, seeing around them. But they'll see a book with the word God on it and may be a little afraid to jump into it. What are some examples in the book that would encourage somebody like me to want to buy a book like that to a friend who is ready for more meaning in their lives, that is ready to find their walk with God? How would you make the case that this would be a book that is compelling for somebody who is open-minded about bringing God into their lives? Well, I never ask people to take any of my premises on faith. It's either logical or don't accept it. That's my attitude. It's my Bible commentary. By the way, you talked about my finishing the book while in the hospital. I have to give a shout-out to Joel Alperson because without him, I would never have been able to do it. He worked with me constantly. He comes from Nebraska for a whole week every month. So he's done a great service. I guess I would say it's good to have some friends who are willing to nudge you sometimes. Sometimes it's a little annoying. I'm sure all of us can relate to the fact that we have people in our lives who push us constantly and sometimes we snap back at them or we kind of want to hide from them or ignore their phone call when they're calling us. But ultimately, you surround with people who want the best for you and sometimes the nagging is actually a blessing, isn't it? That is such an intelligent point. That is exactly how I feel about Joel. I love him. I thank him. I've dedicated a book to him. But it's true. I know that I'm going to be forced to do things I don't want to do. That's exactly right. That's what friends are for. They're not just there to tell you you're terrific. Yeah. You mentioned the chaos around women and men. And this week, the Supreme Court is hearing a very important case. It's very important to me, especially as a mother, that men are competing in women's sports. I'd love your thoughts on how do we get to the point where the Supreme Court of the United States of America is debating something that seems so bizarre, silly and obvious to a 10-year-old, right? A 10-year-old would be able to make a decision on this. But we have our Supreme Court justices sitting around having to make a ruling on something so very basic. So in the Daily Wire film, what is a woman in the film? He went to a, what is it? A Maasai tribe, I believe, in Africa. And he asked them, can a man become a woman? And they just started laughing. You have to be a college-educated person in the Western world to believe that. The non-college-educated think it's absurd. People in other cultures think it's absurd. It shows you the power of brainwashing. You can end up thinking what every civilization in history would have regarded as absurd, and they were right. A man cannot become a woman. By the way, I have a test. If a man can become a woman, then when he becomes a woman, does he start to find things? Yes, does he start giving criticism to the spouse while driving? Oh God, is that true? Do you know I said on the radio as a joke, because I throw out these lines that are absurd, but I do it with a straight face. And I said once, you know what wife means in Sanskrit? One who finds flaws in her husband. And it sort of went viral. People believed it. And I felt terrible, but it was so believable. It's so believable. I admit. I think it's, as we say, as we said about your friend, we believe that sometimes the wife's role is to nag you so that you do the right thing. Yeah, but sometimes they take that role. A little too seriously. Yeah, exactly. Well, one great difference, and I'm going to work on a book eventually on 50 differences between men and women. And this is one of those differences. Men want, well, I'll put a star with women. Women want to be loved by their husband, and men want to be admired by their wife. It's not the same thing. Do you think that advice applies for dating as well? I mean, we have a national catastrophe where young men and women are not dating. I keep mentioning that I know hundreds of, I know young women, young conservative women who want to get married and want to start a family, and the whole dating scene is a disaster. Do you think that's part of the fundamental misunderstanding of what a man wants and what a woman wants, and that's why they're not finding each other? When I was a young man, I mean, really young, I mean, high school, it was a given to me that I aspired to be a husband and a father, and that I wanted to take care of a woman and take care of a family. It had nothing to do with, the word equality didn't even enter my brain. I was taught from, I guess, third grade on that God created man and woman. And by the way, this is a very good time for me to note something, for people who look at the Bible, specifically the Torah, the first five books of the Bible, and think that they're sexist. If anything, the woman is, in the creation story, somewhat superior or more highly developed than the man, because the very last things are the most developed, and the last thing God creates is the woman. Moreover, he's created from dirt, and she's created from a human. I mean, it's unbelievable to me that people would regard that story as sexist in the sense that woman is in any way inferior. So, we now have a generation of men who don't aspire to be men, and partially that's due to the feminist world and feminism, because it's telling men that if you're masculine, it's toxic. Imagine that. By the way, if there's toxic masculinity, is there toxic femininity? If a man can be too masculine, as it were, can a woman be too feminine? Well, there is online this narrative of toxic mom culture, where moms basically complain about how terrible it is and how hard it is to be a woman. You see these videos on TikTok of single women in their late 30s and 40s saying how wonderful their lives are, because they get to wake up on Saturday morning and do whatever they want, and their house is clean, and they can go to yoga, and they can go exercise, and they can eat whatever they want, whenever they want, and do whatever they want, and they are so free and alone. That's exactly right. I have about a thousand columns on the internet, 20 years, 50 times a year. Once, one out of the thousand, I transcribed a call to my radio show, a woman in her 50s, and highly, highly successful, a CEO of a company, a serious six-figure income, some advanced degree from a university, and she just called to tell me, and I go home to no one, and I have friends who go home to a husband and children. Dennis, how did we get to a point where the West is pumping out such bizarre ideas? And we were talking earlier about the Supreme Court hearing about men being in women's sports, and you pointed out that if you go to some third world country as Matt Walsh had, these things are so obvious. It is so obvious that a man should not compete in women's sports, that a man should want to get married, a woman should want to get married. How do we get to a point where the West is so parasitic in its ideas? Well, there is a very simple answer, and that is the left-conquered academia. The odds are 90% of your kids' teachers from kindergarten through graduate school are imparting left-wing ideology, and that's really what has happened. And why does the left want to teach something so bizarre that a man should compete in women's sports? What's in it for the left to be so chaotic in their thinking? You answered it. You don't realize. I came to the realization after asking that question for years, what is their end game? It's very, very difficult. I'm not sure they even know, but one answer is chaos. Chaos seems to be their ally and, in many ways, their aim. I think that they have an anger at Western civilization. They don't want to believe, to have it taught, that Judeo-Christian civilization has been better than others. This bothers them tremendously. They want to believe and they want to advocate multiculturalism, that all cultures are equivalent, but they're not. All people are created equal, but not all cultures are equal. So, I mean, these people are living here in the United States. They're living in the West. They're going to, some of them, give birth to children and raise kids. Why would they want to create chaos out of the country that they're living in? Why would Democrats who flee Democrat-run states to Republican-run states still vote Democrat in the states that they moved to? Isn't that a riot? Why would anybody from Latin America want to replicate in the United States what they left? Why aren't the Somalians in Minnesota grateful? Gratitude is one of the great human traits. Ingratitude is one of the ugliest. Most of the Somalians in Minnesota are ingrates to an extent that is almost unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, to come here to our country, move to Minnesota, and then engage in fraud and essentially rob us instead of contributing to our country and being grateful. I mean, what is happening in Minnesota is mind-boggling. It's pretty amazing also, Dennis, as we talk about chaos. I've been thinking about this. Minnesota is a tiny little state in our union. Maybe there are five or six million residents in the entire state, but the amount of attention that Minnesota has drawn recently, negative attention from the horrible, chaotic things that are happening in Minnesota. Why do you think Minnesota has been this center of chaos, corruption, and, I mean, some of it is just pure evil, what is happening there when it comes to the gender-affirming care stuff. It's just one thing after another. Minnesota keeps hitting the news with more bad stuff. It's been a riddle to me because I've been to Minnesota many, many times, and I believe in the concept of Minnesota nice. The people there, certainly in my experience, have been very, very nice. Midwesterners in general are nice people. So, one great lesson I have learned and imparted over the years, nice and wise have nothing to do with one another, and wisdom is one of the roots of goodness. You can't ultimately be good if you're not wise. So, why Minnesota and not Iowa, let's say? I have no answer to that, except to say that the left took over in Minnesota. I mean, it's one of the few non-eastern or western coastal states to have gone crazy. Have you been following what is happening with ICE in Minnesota? And, ICE agents, which are Americans who are enlisting and trying to really take the bad guys out of the state of Minnesota, ironically, the ones who are really treated not so nicely are the people who are serving our country through ICE. That's right. That's correct. Where's the gratitude to them? No, it's a moral scandal. Moral scandal. The ICE agents are trying to get rid of rapists, murderers, etc., who are here illegally, moreover, and they're blocking them. These people live from cause to cause. Ninety-nine percent of them are secular. And again, I always go back to that. So, they need meaning. People need meaning almost as much as they need food or oxygen to live. Once you have food and oxygen, the next thing you need is meaning. And they find it in absurd arenas. They should be bringing sandwiches to ICE agents. You should be giving them flowers. Bad news. Well, the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, is one of the only people in the country less impressive than Kamala Harris. And that's who she picked. Dennis, any final thoughts? I know that you've been following the horrific murders that are happening in Iran right now, while the Persians are trying to save their country and restore freedom there. Any additional comments that you have, or words of encouragement to those of us who are watching and those of us there? Yeah, well, I would not be surprised if the Islamic Republic kills thousands of their fellow citizens. They will do anything to stay in power. It's indistinguishable morally from the murderous communist governments of the last century. I mentioned to you in our last broadcast how little attention was paid to what's going on in Iran by mainstream media. So it's begun to change. But isn't it interesting? There are no demonstrations by the people who are pro-Palestinian on behalf of the people of Iran who have much less freedom than Palestinians have. There's no comparison. There's not one demonstration on their behalf. So I'll end with this thought. I have said this for decades. The Palestinians have been very lucky that they have, as their enemy, the Jews. Because that's why there's so much attention paid to Palestinians. Not because people care about Palestinians or Muslims in general, but because the enemy is Jews. It's a very sobering thought. You know, it's interesting for those who are very focused on numbers and proportions, you talk about the proportions, there are 80 million people that live in Iran who are suffering right now. And so who is speaking for them? Not the left. Not the left. That's correct. Well, Dennis, it's great talking to you again. And all of us love you. We're cheering for you. We appreciate you. Thanks for coming on. And thanks for all your wisdom always. Every one of your sentiments is echoed by me.