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>> I haven't paid um my RS in several
years. Um basically I got out of high
school 0708. Um kind of fell into a good
job uh working for foreclosure companies
and started buying up foreclosures and
kind of amassed about uh got about 267
doors uh rental. But um it's all paid
for. But I'm at the point I just bought
a house
um through private financing,
but I would like to secure permanent
financing, but I haven't done uh my
federal taxes in several years.
>> And they're going to want to see tax
returns for you to get that financing?
>> Yes, sir.
>> And this is the only reason you've
decided I guess you should probably deal
with that.
>> Um
>> why haven't you filed?
I'm just uh kind of ignorant, I guess.
>> No, you're not. Ignorant people don't
own 27 rentals.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> You're very successful.
>> So, what has caused you to just ignore
the taxes completely? Cuz you filed
taxes up until what year?
>> I think the last time was 16. I did it.
>> Okay. So, we're coming up on 10 years.
And nobody's knocked down your door yet.
You haven't gotten anything in the mail?
>> No, sir. I haven't I don't really on
paper I guess show making a bunch. Most
of that income's in cash
>> and you've spent it. Do you have the
money to pay all these back taxes,
penalties, fees?
>> I don't have any idea what it would be.
Um
>> Well, how much have you made in the last
10 years?
>> I mean, I'm anywhere from
10,000 a month to 15,000 a month just
depending on I got a lot of irons in the
fire. So, you're talking about making
>> 150 to 200 grand every year for the last
decade.
>> Yeah. I mean, this uh slowly escalated
year to year.
>> All right. I'm going to call it half a
million. Just ballpark numbers.
How would you come up with half a
million dollars to pay the IRS?
>> Um, it's a good question. And I mean, I
figured up the other day before I got
came on here, I I got about
conservatively $4 million in real
estate.
>> Mhm.
>> So, it sounds like if I were in your
shoes, here's what I would do
personally. Number one, I would get with
an enrolled agent or CPA yesterday and
start tracking down exactly what I need
to do to get current, get on a payment
plan, and get this mess cleaned up. And
then whatever that bill total is, if
it's $500,000,
I'm not even going to get on a payment
plan, I'm going to liquidate enough
properties that I knock this out.
>> Mhm.
>> Well, I mean, should I be even reporting
the cash?
>> You should report every dime you make.
Give to Caesars. What is Caesars? So, I
know you want to avoid that.
>> I don't know if you're going to take my
advice, but I don't want to I don't want
the next phone call from Claude to be
from a jail cell.
>> Yeah,
>> that'd be ugly. Yeah,
>> you got to do this with integrity, my
guy.
>> The last people you want on your back is
the IRS. They can destroy your life.
>> I know that's right.
>> And so I would not ignore this any
longer. It's been almost a decade.
>> Um,
>> what are you going to do next?
>> Um, I guess I need to go to a uh CPA.
>> That's right. And you're going to need
to get with the IRS and get and figure
out exactly what you owe. And they can
help with that. But do not avoid I know
you deal with a lot of cash. I would get
things on the books. I would have
everything every eye dotted every tea
crossed.
>> Okay.
>> And that might mean you need to hire
someone to do the books. If you don't
like doing it, you don't want to do it.
I would hire someone who can do it.
>> The good news is you have the assets to
clean this up very quickly.
>> Yeah.
>> How much debt do you have otherwise?
Um, I mean, I borrowed 165,000 on that
house, uh, from that private investor,
but I mean, I've got I've been offered
275 for it like it is, but I besides
that, I I don't owe a dime.
>> All the 26 properties are free and
clear.
>> Yeah.
>> So, could you sell one or two of those
to knock out this IRS debt worst case? I
mean, I've been doing letting a few go,
but the dag on property taxes and other
unforeseen things are beating me up.
>> It just doesn't make sense. Why are you
so tight on cash?
>> I mean, just
>> if you're all paid for, they should be
cash flowing beautifully. Are you just
spending every single dime you get?
No, not Well, I've um Okay, so I I
bought all these houses kind of cheap
um several years ago, over the last
several years, and then I was just
shoving people in them, doing the
minimum, and so now I'm kind of paying
the popper on that. Um so when they're
coming open, I'm spending a fair amount
of money
>> on repairs and maintenance and all that
because you neglected to do it.
>> That's right,
>> man. That's part of the business. I You
know what? If this is too much for you
to handle, I would liquidate a bunch of
properties and just keep what you can
actually manage and manage. Well,
>> well, I mean, it's my sole it's my main
income.
>> Yeah, but if you liquidated the
properties, you'd have something called
money. And right now, it sounds like
you're tight on cash flow for some
reason because you're just bleeding out
with 27 properties to manage. It's more
expensive.
>> Yeah. I mean, if if I got a few thousand
bucks left over at the end of the month,
I'm doing good. I mean, I'm not
>> I'm just confused. For a guy who doesn't
pay taxes and makes 15 grand a month,
you shouldn't be this broke.
>> Well, I'm I'm at about 10 right now. I
mean, if I got everything full, I'm at
15.
>> Out of 27 properties, you're only making
10 grand a month. They're all paid for.
>> What kind of properties are these?
>> I've got um Well, it's definitely uh low
low income stuff. Like, okay. I mean, I
bought some of these things in in 09's
about when I started buying. I mean, I
bought these things for $5,000.
So, you're making like a few hundred
bucks off each one.
>> Um,
a few hundred. I mean, I'm the bottom of
the rent in my area is like 600 bucks.
600 to
>> Okay. I'm just saying you have you have
27 properties and you make 10 grand off
of those. That's 370 each on average.
>> Yeah. And I've got like five empty right
now.
>> Got some vacancies, too. What would it
look like if you sold a couple of these
lowinccome properties and got some nicer
properties where you can garner a
higher, you know, a higher rent and
still pay for them fully in cash and
then instead of having 26, maybe you
have 10, right? Or maybe you have eight.
>> They're higher quality, higher quality
tenants, pay more.
>> That's kind of what I've been doing. I
just sold one last week for 55,000 that
I bought for 10.
>> Uhhuh.
>> But I paid 40,000 in property taxes.
>> Okay. last week.
>> What about the capital gains on those?
>> That's what I'm I don't I don't know.
>> Oh my goodness. So, on top of your
income, you could have a huge capital
gains bill from all these investment
properties that appreciated since 09
when you bought them for, you know,
pennies on the dollar.
>> But I've never depreciated any of them
either.
>> Wow. You need I think you need help. I
think you need somebody to help you with
the the financial like the books on this
and help you to understand what it is
that you're doing.
>> Yeah. Well, I also had a secretary that
um was embezzling money too in the last
>> Goodness gracious.
>> Wow. I think I think the word for you in
the new year if because I'm already
talking about the new year is
simplification. You need to simplify
your life.
>> You got a lot going on.
>> Yeah. But right now, you've just been
ignoring it and it's just compounded and
compounded and so now it feels so
overwhelming. So I would jump on
ramiesolutions.com,
get in touch with a tax pro today and
they're going to have their hands full
with you. You might be their full-time
client for the next few months as they
uncover and turn over every stone that
you have left to rot. So goodness
gracious, Claude, I'm sorry you're
dealing with this, but man, neglecting
the problem is not going to make it go
away, especially when it's the IRS. Wow.
>> Good luck. Create your free every dollar
budget today.