Has Asian representation in Hollywood
actually gotten worse over the years?
Simu Leu set the internet on fire and we
got to talk about it and run some
numbers. I'll tell you this right off
the bat. Asian representation in New
York's food scene is not hurting. We got
the urban hawker stalls right here.
They're a little bit expensive, but let
me check them out. All right, overall
you got some Singaporean hawker stall
style food. Some of these spots are
actually from Singapore [snorts] and
Malaysia. So that's how you know it's
kind of legit. I'm not going to lie, the
pricing is kind of crazy. For six sauté
skewers, it's 20 bucks. But, uh, let me
see if I want to get anything.
Everybody, I just ended up getting some
Malaysian quay, which is like a steamed
rice cake dessert. This is the pondon
with a little steamed rice at the
bottom. You can see it. All right.
Anyways, let's talk about Simulu and
what he said because this post on
threads went viral. Hey, let's just read
it. He says, "Put some Asians in
literally anything right now. The amount
of backslide in our representation on
screen is effing appalling. Studios
think we're risky. But look at Manari.
Farewell past lives. Everything
everywhere all at once. Crazy rich
Shangqi.
Now I think that this is him just you
know saying how he feels. But this next
part is the most important.
Says no Asian actor has ever lost a
studio even $100 million. But a white
dude will lose 200 million twice and
roll right next into the lead role. We
are fighting a deeply prejudiced system
and most days it sucks. Wo
is uh Ronnie Changeng's like favorite
dessert.
Besides all the feeling that was put
into that tweet, I think you got to look
at the facts. Let's see if there was any
real Asian-led movies that actually were
huge bombs. as in they super
disappointed people. And you will
actually see if you go back in history
that Asian leads did not lead to a bomb.
Let's just take a look. Okay, I'm not
going to lie. When Simu said that some
white dude could lose $200 million for
his studio twice in a row, I feel like
he was referring to someone specific. So
although he did not name names, I'm just
going to go ahead and look up a name.
Taylor Kish. Taylor Kish was in two huge
box office flops in the same year, 2012,
and he still got in the movies right
after that. And before I go any further,
I think for the people who are like,
"Oh, uh, Simu, is he good
representation?" I'm like, "Dude, the
guy is tall, buff, he's straight, he
drinks boba, and he talks about Asian
issues." Like, what more do you want?
You want him to what? Sing, too. this
close to walking [music and singing]
over.
Damn, I wish I'd have told you. Don't
[music]
give up when you're halfway down the
[singing] road.
There's so much more inside you than
[music] you know
when [singing] everything is telling you
it's over. [music]
All right, I'm not going to lie. I
actually do like that song. And you can
even ask my brother David. I actually
actually know the lyrics. Listen,
whether or not you personally like Simu
or his movies that he's in, I mean, you
got to give him credit, dude. He speaks
up about this and he is in a position
where a lot of people would probably
tell him, "Hey, Simu, don't tweet that."
But he goes ahead and does it anyways,
which I appreciate. But first of all,
let's talk about what Simu said because
he said that the industry says that
Asians are risky to put as the lead. But
that's not what history shows because
history shows that there are really no
big major catastrophic movie flops with
Asians as the lead. And obviously Simu
can say this because Shani was a big
bet. You know, Marvel spent $100 million
making that movie. And guess what? It
was a success. So he can say that versus
these other movies which are like Joker,
Hellboy, The Goldfinch, Haunted Mansion,
Wonder Woman 1984, Robin Hood, The
Wrinkle in Time, King Arthur, Legend of
the Sword, Black Adam, which is the
closest you get to a Asian le movie,
which is The Rock, 355, Amsterdam, The
Last Duel, Westside Story, Dark Phoenix,
Monster, Fantastic 4, Monster Trucks.
There's even way bigger movie flops that
lost studios hundreds of millions of
dollars because they were just really
bad movies. Now, we all know when a
movie flops, it's not only because of
the lead actor, but often the lead actor
is supposed to be part of the draw. So,
the truth is that even when Asians don't
meet the expectations, their flops
aren't that bad. Most recently, you
could look at Love Hurts with Kiwan or
Afraid with John Cho, which they didn't
do that great, but honestly, both those
movies costed like nothing to make for
the studio. So, uh, really the studio
wasn't at a big loss. I mean, they only
costed like $15 million to make versus
obviously action movies are hundred plus
million to make. So, judging by the
numbers, SIMU is correct. There have not
been any catastrophic Asian flops to say
that Asians are truly risky. I have a
hunch on one of the reasons, and I think
it's that the expectations for Asians
are higher. And this kind of oddly
enough falls in line with like getting
into elite institutions too. Like
whether it's Harvard or Hollywood, I
just feel like the expectations for
Asians are higher to be honest. I mean,
listen, like Asians are expected to
outperform movies or else we don't get
another shot. And the reason why Simu
gets to say this is because Shangi was a
financial success and he hasn't gotten a
sequel yet. So, what's another possible
reason why they would say Asians are
risky? Or is that not really the reason?
Well, I think that I guess you could
throw out maybe depending on the story,
oh, like middle America or the people
who are not from the big cities won't
get used to Asian faces. That's always a
concern, right? Or maybe the studios are
like, oh, well, look, they have all this
uh Korean content that's very popular.
They can see Asian faces in the Korean
stuff like physical 100, K-pop demon
hunters, you know, all the Kdramas. Why
do we need and and you know, I do want
to acknowledge first of all that having
Asians having their alternative
entertainment systems is pretty cool.
You know, not every ethnicity or race
has that available to them. Not every
community has that available to them. So
for East Asians between Japan, China,
Korea and now India, I mean to be
honest, obviously these are big groups,
but they have a lot of media coming out
from their country that is also very
comparable to a lot of American media,
right? Like I mean, think about it. Like
if like the Philippines doesn't have the
entertainment system built up like if
you're from Nigeria, you're not going to
get n pop or uh end dramas, right? Uh
that are comparable at least in
production. And I'm sure they have their
own shows, but I would imagine they're
not on the same level yet. And honestly,
one other reason I think that's possible
is the political climate right now. You
know, uh you'd be surprised at how much
influence the current administration or
the president has for the vibe of the
country, you know, and you can say
whatever you want about politics. I'm
not really going to make any comments in
this video, but you would say that the
climate right now is probably less uh
leaning towards, I guess, minority
stories. Or maybe during the past few
years when everybody felt like
everything got so woke and so left, then
that's when all these Asian things
popped up, right? And then people are
like, "Oh, well, we're past that time
now." Like, it's peaked, you know? We
don't we can we can reel it back. Do I
think that Asian representation needs to
constantly linearly [snorts]
uh increase at the same rate? No, I
don't think it does. But I also think
there's a ton of great Asian stories out
there or stories that could use some of
the great Asian talent that we actually
do have. I [snorts] mean, my overall
take is that Simu Leu is overall
correct. Asians have not shown to be big
box office nuclear bombs yet. Oh, hey,
everybody's in line for something. But
like, basically, let me rephrase that.
Asian leads have not proven to be
detrimental to the movie. Okay, let me
repeat that. That there are way more box
office failures by everybody else
besides Asian faces. So, I do not think
putting an Asian in the lead
automatically deters everybody from
watching a movie. It may deter some
people, but not everybody. And honestly,
there's plenty of successful movies that
have been financial successes and
beneficial to the whole studio system.
Uh, you know, that had Asian faces at
the lead, but also, you know, being a
person who's from the YouTube world, I
got to say, hey, there's, you know,
pretty good Asian representation
everywhere else on the internet as well,
too. So, anyways, let me know in the
comments down below what you think. Um,
I think Simu calling it out is good. I
think it's true. I think he was in the
right. I think he is one of the few
people that can honestly say it and it
means something because if Simu is
saying it and he got his own movie and
it was a success, then why is he saying
it? What's his incentive? He's not He's
still in the industry. He probably
didn't need to ruffle the feathers like
he did, but he chose to. So, he's
standing up for what he believes in,
which you got to respect. So, anyways,
leave it in the comments down below what
you think the main issue is. Um,
possibly the studio host studio system
itself is just kind of I don't know
going down now. So, they're [snorts]
really looking for what they think is
surefire hits. But maybe that wasn't
always the case. Anyways, let me know in
the comments down below. I'm in the
middle of New York City holiday season.
And until next time, I'm out. Peace.