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>> So, I moved out to Ohio exactly a year
ago with a goal to start clearing my
debt away. I'm about $65,000 in debt.
Uh, it's a year later and I'm still
pretty much in the same situation. And I
don't understand why. I pay rent now and
I had to furnish my apartment when I got
out here, but it just the math isn't
adding up for me. How much do you make?
>> Uh, at my new job, I make about a h
100,000 on a good year, assuming no
layoffs.
>> Okay. So, in the past year, $100,000 has
flowed through your hands in the last
year,
>> or at least that's the gross pay.
>> Yes.
>> Are you doing a a pretty detailed
budget, Lance, monthtomonth?
>> I mean, uh, about six months in, I
really started cracking down on it
because I saw that I wasn't gaining much
traction. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how much
is your rent a month?
>> Uh, rent's not too bad. It's $1,450.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Are you taking home five or six grand a
month?
>> Um, a little bit more, actually. It's
about $2,000 a week.
>> Okay.
>> Okay, that's great.
>> Mhm.
>> So, where is the rest of the
>> Where's it all going?
>> Um, well, like I said, I I pay rent now.
before I didn't pay rent when I lived
back home in New Hampshire. Um, and then
I had to furnish my apartment and I
guess the rest just just gets trickled
out there. And
>> $6,000 doesn't trickle out there. So, if
I looked at your bank statement and I
added everything up, where would be the
big piles of money that disappeared? Is
it eating out? Is it subscriptions? Is
it spending? Is it gambling? Any vices?
>> I I don't gamble. Um, I I have a lot of
bills. I mean, I I have a truck payment
that's $500. I have insurance that's
$400 plus. I have a Harley that's $500.
Um,
>> break down the 65,000 for us. What are
the balances and and what are they owed
for?
>> I have about It's 65,000 give or take.
Um, I I have 30,000 on my Harley. I have
25,000 on my truck. I have $8,000
on a personal loan and I had $10,000 on
credit card debt which I was able to
manage down to $1,000.
>> Oh, good.
>> Well, what good news is if you sell all
the vehicles? Well, I mean, yeah, you
got that's 55,000 of your 65,000. I
think we found the problem.
>> I I looked into selling my Harley um
back to the dealership when they
>> No, not to the dealership dealership.
They're going to give you the worst
price.
>> They'll screw you harder than anyone.
>> Have you Have you Kelly Blue Booked it?
>> Yes, they do.
>> What's the Kelly Blue Book private party
value?
>> I believe it's at 17,000.
>> I don't buy that. How are you that far
underwater?
>> What about your truck?
>> I haven't looked up the blue book value
on it.
>> Did you roll over negative equity for
this Harley?
>> The Harley? No, it was a $30,000 Harley.
It was brand new.
>> Yeah. But how long have you had it?
>> Um I'm going on the third year now, I
believe.
>> Cuz if that's the case, it's in half. I
mean, the value of it went in half,
which I don't I'm not up on my Harley's.
I know that's probably shocking, but I
don't
>> Yeah,
>> I don't keep up with the market on
Harley's, but
>> she's a Mitsubishi gal.
>> That's That's bad. Okay. Okay. Let's
just keep playing with the numbers here,
Lance. Okay. Your truck. When did you
get the truck?
>> I got the truck uh last year right
before I moved out to Ohio.
>> And it was it used, I'm assuming.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Okay. So, the good thing is the
truck probably hasn't lost a ton of its
value. So, let's just throw I don't
know, let's say it's 22. Maybe you've
maybe you lost three grand on it in the
in the last year. So, what I would I
mean, honestly, what I would do is go
and take out let's see um I would do 20.
I mean, maybe go if you can maybe sell
both of these things. Sell both the
truck and the Harley. You may take out a
Well, I was going to say that's a good
chunk of a personal loan with all the
>> save the difference pretty quick making
the money you're making.
>> I'm I'm willing I'm willing to sell my
truck and Harley. I do have a small car
like a beater winter car that
>> Perfect. You have three You have three
>> things with wheels and motors.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, here's your homework. You need
to find out the private party value and
then the amount you're underwater on.
You either need to save that up through
future paychecks or get a loan from a
credit union for the difference so that
you can clear the titles and sell these
>> cuz that's going to be about 15,000 that
you'll be negative on both of these
around. So,
>> I just I just don't know who to sell my
Harley. I don't know how to sell my
Harley, I guess, because the dealership
was the only way I knew. And when they
offered me less than half, I
>> I mean, Facebook Marketplace, Cars.com,
Autotrader, there's a lot of people
looking. You bought a Harley brand new
for 30. So 3 years later, someone's
looking for it at half price.
>> Okay. I just I've never I've never sold
anything that I that a bank owned, you
know.
>> Sure. Well, here's the deal. You're
going to need to clear the title before
they can actually take possession of it.
And that's why you need the difference
either in cash that you save up or that
loan from the credit union. And you can
do all the transactions on the same day.
So the day you sell it is the day you go
down to the wherever you owe the the
loan to and you pay off the loan with
the difference.
>> Yeah. Because you just cut all your debt
in half, Lance, when you do this,
>> which means you get back again. You said
the $600 payment for the Harley, the
$500 car payment. I mean, that's $1,100
less insurance.
>> But here's what worries me a little bit
is even after some of the things you
were just saying. I mean, you still have
a couple of grand sitting there um that
is kind of disappearing that you still
at the beginning of the call weren't
able to tell us exactly where it was
going. So, that's still enough money for
me to be like, my only fear, Lance, is
when you do all of this and it does give
you margin and freeze you up that you're
going to go back to this kind of
spending habit that you're in of not
knowing exactly where your money's
going. And that's not going to be
helpful either because instead of $4,000
slipping through your fingers, now it'll
be 6,000, right? Or whatever it is. So,
I want you to be able to know and
control your money and where it's going.
And so, before we get off the call,
Christian will pick up and we're going
to give you a year of every dollar,
which is our not just our budgeting app,
but our overall financial um you can put
in all of your numbers and your entire
financial picture can be in this app,
which is so helpful because you're going
to be able to walk through the baby
steps, pay off this debt, and we can
really walk with you through it in this
app. But um
>> and you'll feel a whole lot less
overwhelmed when you just see all the
numbers. You can see the progress cuz
right now you're just sort of hoping.
You make great money. You work really
hard and it's disappearing through your
fingers. And every dollar is going to
help you take control of that uh to help
stop that.
>> Yes, I I understand. I um a year ago I
was terrible with my money and I'm still
not the best, but I I have tightened
down a lot and I'm I've been living like
a hermit for the last four or five
months. I I'm I'm desperate to get out
of debt. I want to
>> I hear Yeah, I totally hear that, Lance.
But what worries me is you've lived like
a hermit for 4 months, but there's no
been there's been no progress. So,
that's what I'm saying. It's like the
two things don't add up. I want you to
be a hermit, but I wish you'd called him
like I was a hermit for four months and
I paid off $9,000 of my debt, you know,
whatever it is. Like, I want the the
sacrifice to produce a result because
it's just crazy to sacrifice and have no
result, right? And so that's the power
of when you are working a very detailed
plan is you're getting the results that
the sacrifice, you know, is allowing.
And so that's what I want those two
parents because you'll you'll run on
fumes the rest of your life if you're
living like this and not making any
progress is which is what I'm sounds
like you're doing. So, um, yeah, as a
single guy, Lance, man, I really would I
this is this is the time in your life to
cut everything and even if you want to
work extra, you make great money, but
man, if you even want to just throw in
some extra income just to get it paid
off that much faster um to be able to
have some savings, I Yeah, I mean, I
think
>> the money I make is is with immense
overtime. Like, I they offer it's there
and I do work a lot.
>> Yeah, I believe it. And I think that
work ethic if it's channeled to more I
just think you just maybe need more
details and direction and it's going to
help you see kind of where you're going.
But you're right, your your habits are
like I hear that that you are changing
for the better which I think is a is a
great um way to go. Oh, and you know
what, Lance, too, I'm going to say like
some people their money story is that
one day they've they had the high had it
moment and they change everything and
then some people they're like, "Hey, it
took me about 6 months to kind of get
all this under my belt to really learn
and understand it and then they take
off." And that just may be your story,
which is great, but I just want you to
see some progress to at least keep you
motivated to stay with it.
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