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>> I am expecting a six baby soon.
>> Whoa. Whoa. Wait a minute. Did you say
sixth as in the number six?
>> That's the one.
>> Wow.
>> You are a hero.
>> I know. That's right.
>> I am not
>> Wonder Woman. Um
um
>> what's going to be the uh age range?
>> We have an almost 12y old down to a
one-year-old.
>> My oh my.
>> Would you like me to get on the phone
with your husband and tell him to leave
you alone?
>> I mean, if you wouldn't mind, that'd be
lovely.
>> Tell him to rewind the show today. Hey,
pal, leave her alone. She needs a break.
Well, in his defense, he was gearing up
to get a vasectomy and we just didn't
get that far. So,
>> you love each other. What can you say?
>> Have we made that appointment, though?
Is that on the books?
>> Oh, I wish. I wish. I don't know what
he's doing. So,
>> Kim, you're a good one.
All right. I'm sorry. I'm having a
little fun here. I always represent the
American people. I say what they're
thinking. Uh, okay. How can we help
today?
>> Right. So, um, two of my biggest
concerns right now is the fact that we
lease a car through my husband's work
and we only have the one car and it is a
seven-seater, so not going to fit six
kids. Um, my other issue is the fact
that we're essentially in a two-bedroom
house and running out of space very
quickly.
>> You think you're in a two-bedroom house?
>> Yeah. Well, my husband, he works from
home and he so he uses one of the pseudo
bedrooms as an office. So, my thought is
we can plunk him as quickly as possible
into the basement where we anticipate
getting at least two bedrooms put up and
his office built down there. Um, but
there's a lot of work that has to get
done to the basement before like rooms
and things can be added down there.
>> How many square foot feet is this place?
>> It's only 1,400. It's not a lot. It's
It's manageable.
>> Do we have Okay, hold on. Slow down. Do
we have the money
>> to be able to make these Okay, so we
have I thought that was the case. So,
here's the deal. There is no expansion
of the house for him. He's going to a
place called a coffee shop.
>> What What kind of work does he do and
what does he earn?
>> So, he we he makes about 75 a year. Um
and the problem is like sometimes he's
on the phones and stuff like that. So,
like he has to be in like a quiet
secluded area. Um
>> there's all kinds of sidewalk.
There's the back alley
>> customer service for for Volkswagen. So
>> Oh, what service?
>> It's like a customer service
>> for Volkswagen. Okay.
>> Um, how long's you been doing that?
>> Uh, for about six or so years now.
>> Okay. And do you do any work other than
working from the home? Do you do
anything outside to get a check?
>> How could she?
>> So,
>> I don't think so. I'm just asking.
>> I fill as much space as I can um when I
when my husband's not working. I'm
walking dogs. I'm grooming dogs. We We
do boarding at the house just to add
some extra income.
>> You do boarding at the house where
there's no bedrooms for the children to
sleep.
>> I I have a great idea. I have a great
idea for you guys to make more money.
You guys need to be on the phone with
some reality show producer because I
feel like I feel like your life is a
reality show waiting to happen.
>> Oh man.
>> I just told my husband we would make a
really great sitcom.
>> I know you would. Six kids and 60 dogs.
Yeah. I'm exhausted already just talking
to you,
>> man. Okay. Well, I like your hustle
spirit. Like I I like the fact that
you're like, "Hey, I'm going to get
money doing what I can. I love pets, so
invite them over." Uh what do you I
mean, on a good month, what do you make
from your side hustling?
>> Um so, from grooming, I do about 2,000.
Uh with uh boarding, I do about a
thousand. Walks are harder for me just
because it's more of me out of the
house. So, um, usually it's like maybe a
couple hundred bucks a month or
something like that. So,
>> you're pregnant with your six.
>> Tired.
>> Yes. Stop walking the dogs. Okay. So,
what is the core question you called
with today? Cuz now we have a pretty
good idea what's going on.
>> I'm I'm trying to systematically I feel
like the car is going to be the biggest
thing as far as what we need to do
first. But, I mean, I looked at places
that could offer us a car that's going
to fit everyone. and they're looking at
like I mean if we put no money down
we're up to like $700 car payment a
month. Right now we pay $2.75 for this
lease and I'm like I don't know how to
find a car that's going to fit everyone
with like zero money. I mean we're on
baby step two right now so I don't know
>> what other debt do you have.
>> Um it's about 30,000 in consumers. So um
there's like 8,000 on one card that my
husband has that went to collections. We
have another 5,000 that went to
collections that he has. And then um
>> And what was this money spent on? Is
this just you guys surviving?
>> No, it was that my husband spent it on
garbage.
>> On what? On what?
>> On garbage.
>> Okay. Yeah, because Hold on. I want to
pause for a second here, right?
>> Okay. You guys are making enough money.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Between his 75 and let's call it your 24
>> that you guys don't need to be spending
money on credit cards. It's not like you
need that money to live. You guys are
just being ridiculously careless.
>> Yeah. And truthfully, you don't I mean,
Ken is right. You're doing all right,
but you don't have a lot of margin for
error here. I just kind of calculated.
So, what's he bringing home? Like 4,800
a month.
>> Yeah. Give or take. Yeah.
>> Okay. And yours is 2. So, you're 6,800 a
month, which doesn't sound bad, but you
got there's se there's eight of you
guys. So, that that goes fast. Um, what
are you paying what do you pay for uh
mortgage?
1450.
>> Okay, that's fine. Um, and do you have
like an actual budget? Could you tell me
today like here's the margin at the end
of every month that we have?
>> We have like about $2,000 margin after
all of like the necessities.
>> Great. Great. So, the key to this um is
you're going to have to save up to get
something because you already know that
debt's the problem, right? So, you can't
turn around and go into debt on another
vehicle. How often are all of you piling
in the car to all go to the same place?
>> So, because I'm predominantly a
stay-at-home mom, I'm the chauffeur. So,
like the kids are with me a good chunk
of the day except the older two who are
in school.
>> Um, but because it's also our only car,
if we go see family, if we go do
anything, we're taking everybody.
>> Well, guess what? Guess what we're not
doing? We're not going to see anybody.
We aren't going to go do anything until
we get this thing right. Yeah, I think
so.
>> Everybody's coming to you. My goodness.
I think you got a good case to make.
>> I think so, too.
>> Now, this lease, when is it up?
>> I mean, it's up any minute. Um, so like
we could return it today and they'd be
happy with us. But the only problem is,
so right now we're paying 275 a month on
the car, okay? Which is all fine and
well. That includes insurance, tags
every year, all of it. Um, and they're
not no longer making um the car that we
have with the three row seats. So, we
can't get that same deal. If we return
it and get another car, we'd be looking
at paying closer to 450 on the next
lease.
>> Understood. How how cuz here's the
biggest problem is this and and I know
it's easy to focus on like the the micro
problems like the lease. The biggest
problem is you've had $2,000 of margin
for the last five, six years that he's
been working on Volkswagen, but you
don't have any money saved.
>> So, I can tell you what happened with
that.
>> Well,
>> um, Door Dash.
>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It doesn't
matter at this point.
>> That is the point is that that money has
gone to things that are not paying off
debt, not saving up for the future. So,
today, this is the thing that's on fire.
You guys have got to save up. Start
saving that money. And in the meantime,
if you can extend this car, if that's
possible, I would say do it because you
got to have something to drive and you
don't have any you don't have any money.
So, that would be my first thing is see
what you can save up. What can what can
$8,000 get you? What can $7,000 get you?
And you're going to have a beater for a
while after you get out of this lease
because that's what you can afford.
>> Yeah. Does your husband is he mechanical
by any chance?
>> Minorly. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I get it. Me, too. I can barely
put gas in a car. Um, but here's I'm
going to get creative if I'm you, right?
You know what I'm doing? I'm finding
somebody in their local community, their
church who's like really good at working
on Chevys or Fords and they live in the
Detroit area and I'm going to go find me
an old Suburban, you know, something in
the early 2000s. No, seriously. That's
got that's got enough enough seats and
we're going to we're going we're going
to go get a $5,000 Suburban and find a
good mechanic who going to rip us off
who will give us a deal. My point is,
you have to get creative and innovative
when you are in this situation. And
people will feel for if you go, "Hey,
we've been dumb. We've got some debt
we're paying off. We got a six kid on
the way. Husband's going to go get
snipped soon. We're solving that
problem. We need we need this. We" And
we share the problem. And we go to the
local community, whatever it is, and we
say, "Help us." Yeah.
>> If you have a good church home, let them
put the word out. Somebody
>> make excuses and go, "Well, we got to go
this." And I know you're not. But I got
to tell you, I'd have hubs watch this
back on YouTube. And I'm not knocking
you, my friend. But you got to step up.
>> You must.
>> You're the one that went out and did
this on credit cards. Now you need to go
out and not sleep and work and pay this
off. Go get yourself a car. My goodness.
Step up. You got six kids.
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