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>> I'm in a situation where uh my husband
is threatening to remove me from all the
accounts, the credit cards, and
threatened to leave me with zero. Um
he's been pretty verbally, emotionally,
and financially abusive and then last
night crossed over into physical abuse
and he was arrested. Um but I'm
wondering, my question is how to protect
myself. uh his he's he's a finance guy
and he's really interested in laughing
his way of knowledge uh against my
ignorance and taking uh full advantage
and um putting me in a place of when he
says I I'll need to go prostitute myself
in order to have money which is terribly
sick. So
>> um I'm just wondering what to do from
here. I
>> Oh my gosh. Okay. So are you safe right
now?
>> I am safe right now. Um he just walked
in uh from jail, so I'm sitting in my
car. Um but he is the sole bread winner
right now. We our our kids are now in
college. I'm going to be heading back to
work, but right now he's a soul bread
winner.
>> Okay. And you'll be loggering up. I'm
assuming I mean divorce is happening.
>> I I this I know it sounds terribly
foolish, but I don't I told him I don't
want a broken home. I don't want broken
hearts. I don't want a separate house
splitting belongings. I don't want to
miss any time with my kids.
>> But Jackie, he he has opted out of this
marriage in every way, shape, and form.
>> Jackie, you're not Yeah. This is This is
not a marriage anymore.
>> Correct. Correct. Agreed.
>> Okay. And your kids are they're they are
in college
>> and their mom
>> is going to make a really brave, hard
decision,
>> but she's going to make a decision that
is best for her. I mean, Jackie, this is
horrible.
>> It's terrible. Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you lose love, respect,
communication, trust, you don't have a
marriage. Safety.
>> Safety. Jackie.
>> Provision and protection. I don't even
know you. He just walked in from jail
into the house that you both still live
in.
>> The literally when you guys picked up to
take my call, he walked in and I had to
run outside.
>> Can you drive away? Like I wouldn't be
in the same vicinity as this guy. I
would go to a friend's house, a family
member.
>> Do you have good friends and family
around?
>> No. No. That's another thing. I he I
think he's shooken up because I've never
taken action before, but when he shoved
me last night into a door. Um I I had no
I that was the time the first time that
he took it to physical and I I can't
live with myself. Um if I knew if I my
kids were ever in that situation, I I
had to do it. I could not live with
myself. If
>> there's one thing we know about abusers,
they don't have a change of heart.
They're just going to continue it if you
let it happen. And so the fact that
you're still there really scares me
right now. Well, I had I it was my
choice to say he he can come out and
work because he's the only one uh with a
job. So, he he's under, you know, he has
rules to not harass and things like
that. So,
>> well, the rules don't matter if he
controls all the purse strings and you
get zero dollars.
>> Yeah, Jackie,
>> that's what I'm worried about. That's
what I'm worried about.
>> Is your name on the accounts?
>> My name is on the accounts. So for the
credit card, it's I I'm an authorized
user, but he's the full
>> Okay. Your checking account where his
income comes in. Are you on that
account?
>> Is joint. Correct.
>> Perfect. Okay. If I if I were in your
shoes, Jackie, I would take I would be
in that car and when you get off the
phone with us, I would drive to the bank
and I would create a new checking
account and I would take half of the
money that is in that joint checking
account and I would put it over to your
to your own checking account that he has
zero access to
and I would have it I would have an
amount of money and then I would drive
to a hotel and I would get a room for
the night and until, you know, I can get
with friends and family. I mean, I I I
don't see how it's never going to go
back to normal. And so, what you've been
living in is sadly, I feel like, is what
we hear from a lot of victims of
domestic violence is that you become
almost used to it. And when you're
sitting here telling us two strangers, I
mean, George and I, our mouths were just
dropped open um because of just the
insane situation that you're in. And I
don't feel like you I don't feel like
you see it. And you deserve better than
this, Jackie.
>> Oh, I know that. It's It's It's I just
don't want to break my kids hearts.
>> Jackie, staying with a dangerous man is
breaking their hearts.
>> And they don't know any of it. So,
>> yeah. Jackie,
>> would you want this for your daughter?
What would you tell your daughter right
now?
>> Never.
>> Okay.
>> That was my question that set them off.
Yeah.
>> Okay. So, Jackie, answer your own
question.
>> I think they're sharper than you think.
I think they're catching a lot of what's
going on and they're taking a lot of
cues. And right now, you have an
opportunity to show them the kind of
person you are.
>> And we do not promote divorce. That is
something that I mean I it has to be to
a point where there is there is of no
return. And everything you've just said
in this call is that for me 100%. 100%.
>> Would you be okay if your daughter was
staying in a relationship this abusive?
Would you tell her to?
>> Well, that's why I was saying yes. So,
yes. So, you wouldn't do that. You
wouldn't want this for your daughter. I
don't want you to I don't want you to
want this for yourself.
>> Correct.
>> But you're right. The financials, this
is where we always say that we always
are about combining finances, but the
red flag goes up with a couple of
different things. If there's abuse,
which check that off for your list, um,
you know, if there's if there's
addiction that's not being addressed, if
there's things that you need to protect
yourself, you need a separate account.
>> Financial infidelity. You can't control
his spending. What if he racks up a
bunch of debt and your name is tied to
that credit card?
>> Well, this is my second question is he
opened a separate bank account last year
because his mother sends him thousands
of dollars that he can gamble and buy,
you know, alcohol, drugs, and all that
and he plays with that money and I can't
access that. He could easily move the
money. That's what I'm saying. Jackie,
>> you need to create your own financial
>> get off the phone. Get off the phone
with us and you need to drive to the
bank. remove your name from any account
that you're on that's tied to him.
Freeze all of your credit with all three
credit bureaus. You can call them up and
have them freeze her. Go online and do
it. And then create your own checking
and savings accounts that you have full
control over.
>> Okay?
>> And I would honestly I would pack up my
stuff and I would not be back in that
house and I would be contacting an
attorney for next steps.
>> That's another thing I I don't even know
where to begin. and he thinks it's the
funniest thing that he's just gonna he's
just going to ruin me. And he thinks
it's funny because he's in finance
>> and I
>> he thinks it's funny because he's an
absolute
>> and he knows that you're you're going to
be a doormat and he knows you're going
to come back and you're going to say,
"Well, I don't want a broken home." He
knows that he's holding all the cards
and so you need to show him that you
mean business like you did yesterday
when he went to jail for the night,
>> right?
>> And I think when he realizes, oh, she's
not coming back. Oh, she created her own
accounts. Oh, she took half the money.
This is more serious than I thought. I
don't think he's going to be laughing
then when the courts demand that he pay
alimony or child support, whatever it
may be.
>> Well, yeah, our kids are adults, though.
Well, I guess it would be alimony. I
don't know.
>> Yeah.
>> No idea. Yeah,
>> there's laws that protect you here.
>> Yes, absolutely.
>> And you're not a bad person for taking
advantage of
>> side and especially because there's a
police report that's been filed. Um, I
mean there you have a lot of weight
right now for you to use in your favor,
Jackie. And we we implore you to do
that. I mean, for for your own safety,
Jackie, please. Um,
>> I'd have a restraining order against
this guy, let alone letting him walk
back into my house after.
>> He's a manipulator, an abuser. It's
every it's every red flag you could
imagine, Jackie. And so, just hear that
from two strangers that this is it's so
clear to us. And my fear is that [music]
it's not clear to you. If you can, if
wherever you are, Jackie,
>> join a local church. Get a community
around you who's willing to support you.
You need people in your corner right
now.
>> I'm so sorry.
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