Fearless Business: Overcoming Doubt, Anxiety, and Embracing Confidence for Success w/ Daniel Packard

we saw that the world especially entrepreneurs are struggling with what we call the funky five that's anxiety procrastination people pleasing perfectionism and low self-confidence and it's keeping entrepreneurs from fulfilling their purpose and bringing real value to the world they are working on themselves trying to be a better version of themselves and what's available on the market primarily if not completely is well-intentioned people usually bringing tips and tools and insights to give you awareness to manage what your struggling with meaning you've got it and it's helping you manage it and maybe even lower it enough such that it's not slowing you down but almost always it's you're never free of it and also if you are free of it you're looking at years and what we developed was a system keyword system by the end of the six weeks you're free of the funky 5 if you're finding value in what you're watching consider hitting the Subscribe button and turning on the Bell notification oh and don't forget to drop a comment I love hearing your thoughts and ideas by the way we have got a ton of other videos waiting for you and if you are ready to level up your mindset come hang out with us in our private Facebook group called mindset for business success welcome to Super entrepreneurs podcast I'm your host Shahed danani today we have with us Daniel Packard Daniel is a UC Berkeley mechanical engineer who who spent eight years to reverse engineer an Innovative internal process to overcome fear doubt and anxiety that get you permanent change quickly Welcome to our show my friend oh my gosh that that was just a full power introduction I know you're very successful but if you ever want a side job of just introducing people like as they walk in the room like coming to the room now is Gary Gary is excellent at walking the dog and making toast you have just a very warm wonderful and I wish I had that laugh if I had your laugh it's like a a fusion of Barry White and Santa Claus it's really it's really good your laugh I wish I had it oh thank you thank you so much Daniel it's all about energy and you don't get that with every guest obviously and once you work with energy you match with the person they interviewing at their level so you're also emitting that type of energy you have this positive Vi about you so it's bringing that out in me as well yes we are locked little heart love Jedi and uh we can sense each other it's Jazz musicians saying I see the music you're playing I can play that music yes yes it's exactly that exactly that said Daniel so just to kick off things I know our episodes are shorter and you would like to have a lot more time and we can always come back but let's just start it off can explain it to the audience what you do I did your an hour and a half program that you sent me for people that are not aware of that can you explaining the full Liberation technology and how it specifically helps people overcome fear doubt and anxiety thank you again for taking the time to listen to that so to be clear what we offer is a six- week program you got the kind of 90 minute sample yeah if I'm going to share with your audience some incredible claims of how we help people and they're going to be skeptical now I completely understand that don't know me but they know you based in your experience of that 90 minutes if you want to either back up what I'm saying hey I felt the 90 minutes this guy is for real or I agree with what he's saying feel free to chime in because again that's why I sent it to you because here's what we're bringing to the world which doesn't exist that I'm aware of we saw that the world especially entrepreneurs are struggling with what we call the funky five that's anxiety procrastination people pleasing perfectionism and low self-confidence and it's keeping entrepreneurs from fulfilling their purpose and bringing real value to the world now your entrepreneurs if they're listening to this podcast hello entrepreneurs they are working on themselves trying to be a better version of themselves and what's available on the market primarily if not completely is well-intentioned people usually bringing tips and tools and insights to give you awareness to manage what you're struggling with meaning you've got it and it's helping you manage it and maybe even lower it and enough such that it's not slowing you down but almost always it's you're never free of it and also if you are free of it you're looking at years and what we developed was a system keyword system such that in six weeks you can measurably because we measure you as you go through the program measurably by the end of the six weeks you're free of the funky five anxiety procrastination people pleasing perfectionism and low self-confidence and so that's what we do that's rare I know your audience is skeptical I'll tell you why this is possible but if you just want to keep managing the procrastination and learning about it and working on it and always I'm not going to stop it but you're listeners are entrepreneurs these are results focused people that need results so I'm not dismissing what your audience has worked on I'm saying probably what you're doing what we do is more efficient it can get you more joy more fulfillment more purpose and a much faster period of time for way less money that's my value proposition how's that sound very good excellent and the reason we got here uh what we've done is a real Innovation and it's an innovation that I didn't necessarily want to do the Innovation that we're bringing to the world is a process that's gives measurable results again as you go through the program twice a day you're tracking your symptom what you're working on and because results matter and the reason results matter to me is because growing up my dad was a physicist and he sat me down and he said Daniel anybody can have a theory or an idea but it's the person that gets results that's the person you want to trust they know what they're doing results matter and that idea is stuck with me and it's important because anyone can fake it anyone can say this and anything is results matter Shahed and as your audience knows that's what makes them successful entrepreneurs you can't be an entrepreneur and look in the mirror and say I'm rich nice but no your bank account is your result your sales are your results matter in sports and in business and so the love of results took me to engineering school at UC Berkeley and I was properly trained how to look at complex problems you create a solution and then you test it you get results is it working if not you calibrate it you refine it you build new prototypes until you get something that not only works but works consistently that's what in Engineers are good at innovating things that work consistently so the good news was I was trained how to make machines work but they didn't teach me how to make relation ships and life work so I could build a robot that played pingpong but I was an insecure anxious perfectionis and people pleasing kid with low self-esteem what good is that and like your audience I go looking for help and I go to therapists psychologists gurus teachers I lived in asrs 10 years and 100 Grand spent and what results did I get and the result was tips and tools and insights to help me manage it which not it's not bad but I wasn't free of it I wasn't being the person I wanted to be I was still procrastinating I wasn't fulfilled I wasn't joyful and I was also sad I felt alone and also angry like 100,000 and I'm still stuck here come on and I looked up to whoever's up there listening and in like a moment of pissed off just like I looked up to the sky and I just said what do you want from me this is a test I get it but what am I missing and it was a rhetorical question I was just getting mad at God and but I heard this voice which was what my dad said which is results matter and I just looked at the trillion dollar Improvement industrial complex and I said these are well-intentioned people but they don't get great results it's not permanent it's not fast and it's mostly management so results matter I'm an engineer I know how to make things to get good results so partly for my own pain but partly for just the planet that needs something more Ive more efficient fast permanent results where you're free of it and so I started my own research company full Liberation technology with the mission to see could we reverse engineer keyword engineer a solution such that if you work the steps you get the result results matter and would it be measurable and consistent now it sounded good right invent something so people can be free of but holds them back it sounded really great it was so hard it but it was so it but that's the beauty of Engineers we are unrelenting focused problem solvers that is what's good about engineers if you look at all the Innovation that we have all the technology that's basically scientists and Engineers focused on specific problems and if you stay focused long enough you will eventually get it the right Brothers built a prototype and then for four years just tweaked it optimized it worked on it first a flight not because they were smarter and enlightened they just focused on solving the problem so we stay focused on solving the problem getting people free we worked with for it took eight years we worked with 3,000 people on five continents we worked with NFL athletes we worked with monks in India we worked with addicts in South Africa we worked with entrepreneurs in Europe in the US and Canada and over a million dollars of research and development later we finally we finally cracked the code we had a system that's six weeks and it's simple step by step and it gets measurable permanent results and because results matter when we work with clients we don't charge you at the beginning because we haven't gotten you a result we haven't helped you there's no results matter we only charge you at the end once you have clear measurable data that what you're struggling with is gone and not coming back for two reasons one is nobody believes we can do this Shahed because it's Innovative and they're skeptical and I get that so we say look be skeptical lots of entrepreneurs come to us they're like sounds too good to be true but I met somebody who did what you you did and they said you charge at the end and so it's no risk to try and we say exactly and they say it also probably means you do get results because you back up your results so we do it so skeptical people we can help but also it's just the right thing to do it you know results matter if we can't help you give your life back or make you truly free of this that's our measurement of results and if we can't get you that result we're not going to charge you it's not the right thing to do there's other people will definitely take your money but we won't M so can you walk us through how you achieved this absolutely and it's important that I explain it because again since what we're claiming isn't what's being sold right now what's being sold again is mostly management and not simple and not fast there are people out there that can be free of of the funky five I was talking to a gentleman who doesn't procrastinate anymore he said oh I used it used to ruin my life and now I have all these things and now and I said that's wonderful that's incredible I said how long did that take he said 15 years I went okay we got down to six weeks so it took me about a year and a half two years okay so there you go so six weeks still more efficient mhm and also that's not typical two years and to be free of it but you're not a typical person we wanted something very simple userfriendly where you didn't have to be anybody could do it and here's why it's possible because we're engineers and we're problem solvers so we're more likely to most of the people you go to are learner sharers your coaches your gurus your teachers your therapists they learn things that are already out there and they share it great there's value in that but they're not Innovative problem solvers the Innovative problem solvers are problem solvers and innovators but they're focused on the outside world that's where all the Innovation so I'm just in this weird little Vin diagram if you take Innovative problem solvers focused on the internal World instead of the outside world that's why we were able to do this and we did it because our approach was mechanical all the other approaches Are Spiritual and psychological and that's great if you want to have a understanding of things like an abstract understanding of things it'll give you insights it's like a flashlight it's helpful it's valuable but if you want reliable fast results what's better is mechanical mechanical means this is connected to this if you move this moves always it's not Theory and two people walk up to you and one person says oh I see you struggling I think you have a real negative mindset around air and you're really focusing on your lack of Air instead of the abundance of air and I think your ego is really attached to breathing and living if you could just let go and see the infinite from within you'd be fine or somebody walks up and goes this is a mechanical issue you have a windpipe it's mechanically blocked I'm going to add pressure to your stomach that should put air behind the blockage pop it out and you can be breathing in 10 seconds do you want if you want a fast efficient consistent solution do you want to approach the spiritual mechanic spiritual psychological or mechanical so mechanical you're referring to the body correct first I'm just saying I'll get to what that means but can you see that a mechanical approach is more likely to get you a reliable solution not until I know what the mechanical exactly means that I could probably chiming better so this is what we mean by mechanical the first thing we did is we approached this mechanically so we if we said if we can understand this what's mechanically going on then we can create an understanding that has a quick Solution that's what mechanics have that's what a knee doctor does I took my knee in it ACL was blown out mechanical issue so if we can get a mechanical understanding so the first thing we noticed when we started doing research is that we're told that the problem of a lot of things the anxiety the procrastination the perfectionism the low self-esteem the people pleasing people we told it's a problem of the mind you have to change your mindset change the story in your mind you have to quiet the ego in your mind it's called mental health it's focused on the mind now the mind is part of it it certainly is not helping the mind can scare you and say horrible things that'll mess you up however we saw that it was not the root cause the mind is a symptom of what's really going on which is in the body so what we saw was in the funky 5 you don't have individual problems you're not what you have is different symptoms of fear if you're anxious you're really just very afraid and you call that fear feeling anxious procrastinators are afraid to start and finish things perfectionists are afraid to make a mistake people Pleasers are afraid to not be like so they want everyone to be happy people with low self-confidence are afraid to be them true self so you don't have multiple problems you have multiple symptoms of one root cause which is fear make sense yes now your audience doesn't need me to tell you that fear is a problem right I may be reframing things by saying these are symptoms but still so then what we notice is that they call it false EV evidence appearing real that's what they call it however that's a nice catchphrase doesn't make it Sol catch phrase yeah we're not talking about that I'm just talking about the term fear just to understand the function of it right yes however it's not false and that's a misnomer it feels false because you're thinking why am I so afraid but I'll explain to your audience why they're afraid and it's not false there's a real reason there's a mechanical reason but if you call it false I'm not saying you call it that that dismisses like if you took your car to a mechanic and he said that's a false noise he's missing the noise so it's a nice catchphrase it gives people a reframe pulse what pulse false meaning meaning basically it's active in the body but is showing itself as as false as is appearing in the function of a human being but it's real where it's located does that make sense it does but not to get lost in the definition calling it false dismisses the root cause and you won't go looking for the root cause if that word false you have to the root cause you have to go to the root cause go around throwing around the word false it tends to confuse people because the root cause it's not F very real and very present but anyway we said most things out there try to get you to overcome the fear reframe the fear push through the fear and face the fear that's great short term but it's not a full solution if we could understand where fear is coming from and we saw fear originates in the body and then spreads to the mind because you've noticed when you feel fear in the body usually your mind starts to spin more when you're calmer your mind tends to be quiet the Mind follows the body so part of the reason your audience doesn't get great results is they're being sent to the symptom the mind you're never going to solve it you were sent to the wrong place it's both ways though right no so let me explain this is our little diagram that we use with our students this part top part is the conscious mind and this is the subconscious mind and the body the conscious mind is where the educated mind is where all the knowledge goes how we make sense of things and then our subconscious which in reality is actually the body the subconscious is 96 to 98% of all our results perceptions behaviors are subconscious the body is subconscious so when you're looking for that fear when you're finding the actual Source you're looking in the body but is also in the subconscious so both ways subconscious the body can feel something and then it follows it goes to the mind but the mind can also have an effect on the subconscious when especially when you're trying to shift things around in the subconscious the belief system and everything you will need the interaction of your conscious so I appreciate you explaining that to me and if you're saying that the subconscious is in the body you're way wiser than most people because at least you're looking in the body uh is what we do with our students is whatever you sent me that an hour and a half it felt so at home and it was such a wonderful experience and unfortunately you are so right that people are preaching information that gets surface level motivation surface level improvements but they don't last they're not permanent to get permanent results you have to go to the source and you're maybe the second or third there's a couple spiritual people that also spoke about it because spirituality is also connecting with the subconscious mostly they're not in the conscious mind they're more into the subconscious so it's very relatable what you're saying and I'm so grateful to have you on the show to explain it the way you're explaining because you're making it easy to understand thank you first of all thank you for that deep appreciation I know how wise you are and how much there's stuff out there that's ineffective I can see from the place that you're speaking you're wiser and you have a quiet mind so your appreciation of what we do and that it's rare you said a few people people and also you felt you didn't do the six we program which is what gets you the permanent results but when you measured a fear or something there's an exercise where you feel a fear or an anxiety Then you apply one of our techniques and then to show proof of concept the number goes down did you feel a bit calmer after the exercise so what I had to do and this is just me being very authentic and honest I had to inject it I had to bring it back I had to go and and in in the past and bring something that may be bothering me you know what I mean I played with myself to go through the process and when I did go to the process it did Inc felt incredibly better in that process say it again say it again because people trust you say it again Shah incredibly better and can you see based in the logic of why you felt better temporarily and I get that because you're so calm you had to kind of act some people say I went through all this I went through all this healing work I understand the concept of it and working on your for example your inner child is holding on and trying to protect so much like you said in that program you actually said that we're child a child in an adult's body and is so true because we literally carrying those paradigms that we created up to age eight and then we built upon it in our subconscious mind that makes us who we are how we shake hands how we walk it's all a program and it's instilled in there you know if we get frustrated a lot that means as a child we were getting frustrated in school we still have those areas are holding us back there's like blockages there's walls and how you do it is you find that block and you communicate and you you make that person feel that child Feel Love again and you bring that communion back and you bring that closeness back where the child starts and that doesn't happen on one session an hour and a half doesn't do it you have to do a few but that's why you have the six we program I I bet you and from there you go step by step and one day you start finding that it's not even a big deal anymore because that child has been healed what you just said so first of all you said simple you felt it and what we're doing it's not exactly inner child work it's using the metaphor of the child just to allow people to give themselves the love that they deserve because we learned that similar to it what very similar to it in child you can name it different you can name it something else but it's the same thing though I think the the the difference is that I did a lot of inner child work and it never solved any again it was insights it helped what the the value of what we do and you don't know because you didn't do the whole system is it's not the theory that gets the results it's what we learned is most people are learning individual tips and tools usually it's one tool from this person or one strategy from this person but what we we found is that usually doesn't work to create fast permanent change if you hire a contractor to rebuild your house and they have a hammer and they say okay I've got a hammer I'm ready to go you're not going to trust they can get the job done because most people have a optimized tool kit to get one job done mechanics have mechanic tools contractors have contractor tools but usually your clients buy like a mindset tool from this per breathing exercises from this person and that's setting them up for failure because you don't have an optimized tool we spent eight years to make sure everything's included in the system the other reason the breathing as well what the breathing part is also included in your program it's all in there but it's not just there it's optimized to work together but the other reason that we get a 90% success and people say how can you get people to pay at the end because we've been testing the system and to make a system be effective you need another thing you need instructions a lot of times when I was getting insights from people they were valuable but the the therapist or the guru would say here's a tool good luck and then it was just up to me so what we've developed is the complete toolkit but also what to do on what day in what order for how long so there's no confusion no wondering if you work steps you get the results just like baking if you follow the ingredients and you do the instructions surprise you get the thing so you said it was simple and also what you did was a 90-minute sample but based in your knowledge of Consciousness can you at least see that if what we taught in that 90 minutes if that was done repetitively over six weeks it could be permanent did you sign see that was possible it's it it is not a question of if and the reason why you're doing the 90% is that is the formula to heal to remove those problems that people are facing in their life and generally how they operate like for us we have a six-month program that we do it's a complete transformational program step by step just like you're saying it much more than six weeks obviously but if it's not done on a repetition if you're not connecting to the body continuous with new ideas and looking at Old Concepts it's just going to be temporary it's just going to be surface level so how you're saying it how you're putting it all together I completely see it providing results you're the first person in a long people when I come on these shows people like what I'm saying they're like oh I like this a system it's not in the mind it's in the body you're addressing the fear they like it but they don't they're skeptical because it's an Innovative way and most people haven't done enough deep work to know this is even the way to go you do the fact that you even do six months is incredible hat off to you it's not a competition but six months is incredible we're proud of six weeks but credit to you so the reason we're able to do this is we saw that fear was a mechanical issue you said what does that mean so there's a system in the body it's called the nervous system it's got the word nervous right in there it should have been a clue to The Experts it's everybody's afraid there's a system in the body that has the word nervous and after a hundred years of modern psychology anxiety's On The Rise and you were like it's a problem in the mind no it's not there's a system in the body called the nervous system you should have gone there first we were engineers we were trying to problem solve so everybody has a nervous system it is the body's mechanical threat response system if it is off or wobbly or unhealthy you experience it feels like a threat and it feels you feel unsafe if you feel unsafe in your nervous system you feel fear if you feel fear then symptoms and coping mechanisms the funky five arise so what you're experiencing are symptoms not you're broken there's nothing wrong with you it's that your nervous system is malfunctioning you feel unsafe and fearful and these are symptoms so the beauty is nervous system mechanical we know systems in the body can fail and can be repaired we see it all the time so we figured out why the nervous system is faulty and how to repair it and I wish we had more time but here's the basic crash course okay real fast let's say we're friends okay which we are now I feel like we' connected so I'm talking to you Shah and your audience member and the question is why do I feel unsafe is it my past is it childhood is it Society no that affects you but that's not the root cause here's the root cause let's say we're friends and I treat you really poorly I mean to you I'm inconsiderate I'm not there for you I'm unkind to you I know what you need and it doesn't matter to me and I put everybody else ahead of you and when you really need me I'm not there for you and I criticize you after a while will you feel safe or unsafe unsafe right now the beauty of mechanics is if you know the mechanics of One Direction you can go to the other direction now let's say all of a sudden I start treating you really well I'm kind I'm considerate you can rely on me I know what matters to you and it matters to me I make you priority and when you really need me I'm there for you if I treat you that way long enough will you start to feel safe I'll feel trusted safe exactly because of trust so there's a mechanical link between care trust and safety we know this with other people there's people we feel unsafe around basically there's a mechanical link between care trust and safety but people are in a relationship with themselves and as we know people aren't always loving and caring to themselves so what's causing your nervous system to feel the threat and this is confronting is you little acts every day that are completely undetectable are accumulating where you have broken trust with yourself and your nervous system feels unsafe because of you to you it's not the P it's happening right now so that's what's causing the unsafety but the beauty is if little acts of unhealth from you to you are making things malfunction the beauty is that makes this solvable because by switching from Little of unhealth to little AXS of Health you can heal the nervous system and that's what our Pro program does in six weeks what good news it's really good news because it makes a solution simple and doable if you've gained weight to lose weight you don't have to become enlightened or get anything you just have you just switch little habits and you lose the weight it's in the body so in six weeks we give you the tools and the instructions of basically little simple doable things that you do repeatedly heal your nervous system and you feel safe from the inside out not only are you a better entrepreneur you're a better person you're happier you're a better parent partner leader if everybody felt safe from the inside out which is what you get from this program we would have the world would be a much better place and and you have real freedom and that's what we're offering so again if you have anxiety and you've been working on it and it's better and you can manage it I'm proud of you I really am but if you'd like to be free of it gone we get people that every day we can get you that if you're a procrastinator and it's better it's not and you're managing it wonderful I'm happy for you however if you could be free of that to get hours of work done every day focused bringing value to the world so you were fulfilled if you want that we can get to that if you're a perfectionist and you need and you're and you're working on it and it's better and you're are covering perfectionist but you just want it gone so you're free to just go out into the world and make mistakes and learn and break things and bring real value to the world we can get you that if you are a people pleaser and you want to know how to really make yourself a priority because a healthy you is a healthy world we can get you that and especially low confidence it's holding your entrepreneurs back the self-doubt and I know you have tips to change your mindset and to work on it and make it better I'm so happy for you but if you would like to be an authentic openhearted confident person who does not need people's approval in 6 weeks we can get you that and again I know you're skeptical you only pay at the end when it works so if you are curious to learn more I like things simple my name is Daniel Bard go to Daniel bard.com and there's two options one both of which you can have a free quick call with me either you can have a free nextsteps call where I learn more about you in your unique situation you tell me what you're struggling with and I'll give you some quick actionable next steps that you can take that'll move you in the direction of less fear and more freedom from one of the funky five or if you like the idea of the program you just want this gone and you love the fact that you pay at the end you can go to our website you can learn more about the program you can see our testimonials and if you're interested to see if the program is a good fit for you book a free quick call with me I'll learn more about you I'll make sure it's a good fit if it's not I won't let you do it because I don't want people to try and fail but if it is a good fit you could start to be free of this a couple days from now that's the power of results what do you think about that Shah thank you I love it results is the name of the game if you want to sugarcoat things or feel good or do surface level work that's wonderful but you could spend your entire life doing it even YouTube you could be sitting there watching YouTube videos all day long if you don't penetrate and make changes in the subconscious if you don't make changes of clearing stuff in the body if you're not working at the blocks whatever work you're even trying to do is just won't allow that penetration to create a new state of mind or a new state of being inside out is the true way of being where you take your power back and then you understand that life circumstances situation people they just are and then you're able to transcend them and be more connected to them in a more loving manner because now you starting to love self and to look at self is probably the hardest thing for many people to do right to even look in for you to offer this uh guarantee I'm grateful because you're helping people face this fear of looking within self-awareness going inside and looking at these things it's not easy so you giving this breather to people it's so appreciative and and I'm grateful to have you on the show my friend thank you I want to point out one quick thing but thank you for that deep appreciation because again of which I speak and you know where to go the value of what we do again it's the speed and it's the guarantee that's what we're people know to look within people know they have those people know but the speed and the efficiency but the other thing is to make it effective we actually did make it simple and actually pretty easy and so sometimes people say I know I need to look with there and I'm afraid I'm broken in there the reason we get such a high success rate is we've made it very s you start off very gentle easy to do exercises starts off simple in module one and then we slowly increase because that's what works if we give you something too difficult you'll try and fail so normally looking from within people know the answers there but it's we have made it so kindergarten simple that anybody and especially people who are afraid to look from within I'm telling you it's not that scary the way we've laid it out and that's one of the reasons we have this Effectiveness we we don't want it to be scary we want it to be gentle and also jus effective yes I totally agree with you but I want to be clear if done correctly it's not so scary it's actually a beautiful reunion between yourself and yourself quickly and permanently so that you can feel safe from within and bring value to the world said and going within or looking within is is there's so many layers to that and if you're able to simplify that's wonderful if you're able to make it um very easy for people to work on this and make this shift that is super important is just sometimes our conscious mind uh doesn't allow it we get in our own way so your program sounds like you help with that as well that you show them the way that you know what you don't need to be in the way of this just let it flow join me follow this plan that I have made that I created a simple plan to follow so AB Simplicity that's what took all the hard work we had it working years ago it was getting results but it still people were getting hung up and blocks and things because it's human consciousness and people are afraid so all that work was optimizing removing obstacles addressing the fear in the subconscious and that's how we're getting these was the optimization and just again my opinion from just that 90 minutes because they trust you can I guess you've said that but can you see just based in the 90 minutes that you experienced that if you interpolate that out to six weeks it is very possible that we could get people free of this quickly and in a simple way short answer is yes I had to play with it I had to mimic a person I had to role seem possible you can't know for sure but does it seem possible yeah because theoretically 110% because this is the stuff that we do in our program the six month is about shifting your Paradigm and the Paradigm is in the subconscious so when we work on that area and you shift it you create a new self-image so you completely change as a personality not in a change in a way that oh I don't want to change you bring your true self out to the world you bring out all the strengths more visible to the surface and what you're doing is your program what I see it is helping in removing the blocks that will get in the way of that reprogramming so 100% 100% I see a value in it I appreciate your time we usually try to keep it at maximum 30 minutes but was such a wonderful conversation my friend thank great for having me it was an honor and to the one in a thousand people out there that are really ready to change we're here to help you it was an honor to be here sh I appreciate you very much thank you and if you want to come back and actually do a session together we can do that as an episode too to help people and record it so we could do something like that something creative and I don't mind having you back I can talk talk about this stuff all day long I'm so passionate the way it changed my life and the people that we work with it's like heaven on Earth so what you're doing is not just about the business side of things or the money side of things you're making an impact on Humanity so I respect you and I I I wish you all the best all the success the more people you help the better it is for the world I would love to come back and do Jedi Mind M and talk about these important Concepts to get people heaven on Earth that's exactly we're doing so thank you for doing your part and my part and I would love to talk about heaven on Earth for hours with you thank you my friend take [Music] care 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