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So, I'm wondering how we can apply the
baby steps and get my husband through
college.
What's he taking?
So, he's going into software
engineering.
Okay. And why would he be in college for
that?
I
the last place I would go to learn
software engineering.
Really?
Yeah. Really? I got a whole bunch of
them, like 300 of them that work here. I
have 300 of them that work here. They
went to code school.
Okay.
They didn't go get a four-year degree.
The number of them that have four-year
information systems degree is almost
zero.
Now, a few people that do cyber security
stuff at a real high level go get a
four-year degree. But to be a software
engineer, you don't need a four-year
degree. Matter of fact, it's a lot of
the what you take is a waste. So why is
he doing that?
That is the best thing I've heard in a
long time.
What? She said she's crying heard in a
long time.
Oh, okay. It's good. How why are you
crying, hun?
Oh, I'm just like super scared. Out of
my mind.
What are you scared about?
My husband is trying very hard to
support our family. We have three kids
and I have no education to warrant more
than minimum minimum wage.
Disagree with you wholeheartedly on that
assessment.
Education does not give you anything to
warrant anything. All it does is give
you tools to do a job. But um this idea
that you've got the idea that a that a
degree is a ticket into a club that
you're not worthy to belong to called
success. And that's not true. There's
very little correlation to that. Uh
that's the old thing from the 50s and
60s where they sold everybody to go into
college loan debt because if you don't
get a degree, you're never going to be
anything. And not true. So, um what is
he doing now?
He's attending university.
That's it.
So, he's in school full-time.
Yes.
And doesn't work?
Yes.
How are y'all eating?
Um, we have access to a 529 account that
has $30,000 in it for us to use towards
education.
Yeah. And that's how he's paying for his
tuition. How are you buying food?
A food stamps?
Yeah. You're not scared about Yeah.
Jeez, man. You're scared because your
husband's not working for
quit his job.
Yeah.
What was he doing before he quit?
He was working at a customer service
representative.
All right, let let me just I'm going to
I'm going to be as as bold and and as I
can. I worked a full-time job as a dean
of students. I also was an adjunct
professor at two different universities
and I ran around with police officers
police officers in the middle of the
night. I was a full-time doctoral
student. Why? cuz I had a family to
provide for and I had dreams of things
being different in the future. And that
meant I couldn't just cash out on my
responsibility to take care of my
family.
He can't either.
You don't get to put your kids, the
three kids on food stamps so you can go
get a degree.
Wrong answer.
No, he needs to go to work and he needs
to stay up all night doing doing his
assignments at his coding school that
have you have 30,000 bucks that will
cover the cost. You can go he can go to
code school while he works a full-time
job
or two full-time jobs
or three.
You are right to be terrified because
your husband's cashed out on your family
right now. You and the three little
kids. And I would tell him that if he
was sitting right in front of me.
Okay.
Extremely irresponsible.
Tell him that when
Play this clip back to him. Have him
call us.
Dude, you're irresponsible. There you
go. I just said it for him.
Here, here's how it has to start, honey.
You have to So, you have to sit down and
say, "I'm scared to death." It's not It
But listen, you It's not a dream he's
living. It's a nightmare,
okay? Your primary focus on this planet
is not to self-actualize and feel good
and I want to live my dream. I want to
live my passions. Well, cry me a
wambulance.
Seriously, you go get a job and you feed
your freaking kids
first.
before we talk about your dreams.
Okay? And then you work 16 hours a day
and make sure everybody's taken care of.
And then in the middle of the night, I
wrote the book Financial Peace from
10:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. is when that
book was written.
And that's when I wrote my wrote my
dissertation for at 10:00 p.m. till 2
a.m. till your face falls asleep on the
keyboard. Yeah. you get up
and I had little babies upstairs asleep
and a wife upstairs asleep and I would
get three or four hours of sleep and I
would get up the next morning and go to
oh work
while I was building my dream of
financial peace. So no, this is this is
a bad plan, darling. It's a bad plan.
There's there's so much wrong with your
plan. It's unbelievable.
I think the problem is it's not her
plan.
I know I said I his plan. I'm sorry. His
plan. So okay, look. Number one, let's
just start with the fact you don't need
a four-year degree to be a software
engineer. Boop right there. Okay, that
that just shortcut. Hey, that gets it's
shortened the uh the on-ramp.
And you've got a 529 with 30 grand in
it. You've paid for it. There you go.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh Bethl, is that the
people?
Bethl Tech's got programs. Yes.
Beth Tech has programs for the we they I
don't know if they're still an
advertiser. They advertise with us for a
while, but they're good people. I've
been with them. They do a good job
teaching coding. We've sent people from
Ramsey there to be taught coding. And so
you can become a software engineer. You
start out dev one, you work, keep doing,
keep working your searchs and you get to
dev, dev three. Dev 3s will make a
couple hundred grand right now. Okay?
Maybe a little more. But u and if you
want to move all the way into cyber
security, you probably get up to a half
million. But you got that's that's a
different level. But you can go out and
get a software degree. There's much more
than better. I mean, software co go to
code school and write enough code to
make a whole lot more than you would as
a customer service rep,
but you don't cash out on your family
to do it
to do it. You do that and and that's
just part of being a
I just went my dream. You want to smack
your dream. You turn into a nightmare
for everybody else. Oh god.
And then your crying wife has to call us
and say, "Help, please."
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you
tell him. You play this back. It won't
be pleasant for him. It's okay. We're in
the business of telling people the truth
because we love them
and we want you to win. We want to
succeed. We want him to succeed. We want
you to succeed.
Let's lean on this, too. Just because
you don't have a degree doesn't mean
you don't have to make minimum wage.
That's absolute bull crap.
To make minimum wage. It's not true.
Bull crap.
Um and it may be that you got to get a
minimum wage job to get money in the
door right this second, but you're
looking all the time after that job and
you're going to find yourself Listen,
minimum wage is seven and a quarter.
Target, if you just show up and breathe
and bathe, we'll pay you $20.
Okay, that's how that's the
qualifications to work at Target.
I don't think that's right.
Bathe and breathe.
That's it. You make 20 bucks an hour and
minimum wage is seven and a quarter. So
that No, you're not minimum wage. Create
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