Joe Rogan Got TEARS While Talking About Jesus With Mel Gibson - Mar Mari Emmanuel

So you believe that was a real event? Yeah, I do. Yeah. What brought you to that belief? Is this something that you've always had? Or is it something you studied it and you've come to this conclusion because of the historical accounts? And that was a crazy movie because it was a great movie. But it seemed like there was resistance to that movie. Oh, yeah. No, there was. Which I thought was very strange. There was like Hollywood resistance to that movie. People didn't like that you were making it, it seemed like. Yeah, there was a lot of opposition to it. And I think if you ever hit on that subject matter, you're going to get people going. Because... Of course. It's big subject matter and it's like... And my contention is, you know, when I was making it, it was like, you're making this film and the idea was that we're all responsible for this. That his sacrifice was for all mankind. And that for all our ills and all the things in our fallen nature. It was a redemption. So, you know, and I believe that. I actually am, you know, I was born into a Catholic family. I'm very Christian in my beliefs, you know. So I do actually believe this stuff to the full. So depicting that was an honor. But it was also, yeah, you got the daylight speed out of you for it. Yeah, because there's resistance, first of all, from secular Hollywood. Where for whatever reason, Christianity is the one religion that you're allowed to disparage. Yeah. Christianity is the one religion where people... All these progressive, open-minded, leftist people. They'll embrace all these different religions until it comes to Christianity. And for whatever reason, that represents like white male. You know, whatever it represents. Colonism. You know, whatever it represents that's negative. Yeah, sure. It's gotten a bad rap. And people do feel free to beat up on it. Even I do when I see it's like, you know, when it's not fair. When I think it's off. Like, you know, when they appoint some cardinal in some diocese. And he's been covering up for like people who are child molesters. Yes. You know, like Theodore McCarrick or Cardinal Wuerl or those kind of guys. I mean... Or the Pope. Yes, absolutely. Benedict. Not Benedict. Well, he was covering up. But like, so is the guy now. Is he really? Well, yeah. How can you be the Pope if you say all religions are just as good? Yeah, we all worship. So, yeah. There's the Pachamama. There you go. So he brought that in. Yeah, into the Vatican. Then the hierarchy even worshiped. They had a ceremony around it outside. What? Well, that constitutes apostasy. Yeah. That's an apostasy. All right. Worshiping false gods. Yeah. That's number one on the Mosaic hit list. Yeah. Moses goes up on the mountain. He comes back down. People worship him on a golden calf. Yeah. You know, it's that. Yeah. So you can't do that. And for me, that's a departure from... That's called apostasy. Right. It's a falling away from it. And the very nature of apostasy means that you have to be part of it to fall away from it. Mm-hmm. So it's an inside job. Ah. Yeah. So do you think there's a motive behind these things? I don't think... Well... What do you think it is? I don't know. But it isn't good. Look, I think we're looking at a world where... And this is the... In the next film I'm going to do, I'm going to try and tackle this question. That there are big realms. Spiritual realms. There's good. There's evil. And they are slugging it out for the souls of mankind. And my question is, why are we even important? Little old flawed humanity. Why are we important in that process? Where the big realms are slugging it out over us. And I think there's bigger things at play here. And institutions that purport to touch on the divine are necessarily going to be affected. By that slugfest that's going on between good and evil. Right. So this story that you want to tell about good and evil. Do you have a script? Or is it just a thing in your head? What is it? Yeah. It's the resurrection story. The most faith and the most belief. Resurrection. Yeah. Who gets back up three days later after he gets murdered in public. Who gets back up under his own power. Buddha didn't do that. Right. You know. So. You believe that was a real event? Yeah, I do. Yeah. What brought you to that belief? Is this something that you've always had? Or is it something you studied it and you've come to this conclusion because of the historical accounts? So as a child, you learn these things and you accept them on faith. And I still have that faith. But as I got older, I came to it through intellect and through reading. And another special thank you to. Yes. A very special thank you. To our beloved Mel Gibson and Jim Caviezel. Please put your hands together. For producing such a powerful movie, yet based on truth, facts, real life events. I know my dear Mel Gibson. What you have encountered with Hollywood. And what they've done to you when you've directed The Passion of the Christ. And I know what you've been through. And also Jim Caviezel. But I want to say. Blessed are you. For you being persecuted for the sake of the Lord Jesus. For heaven is yours in the end. God bless you dear Mel Gibson. And God bless you dear Jim Caviezel. For such a magnificent movie based on true events. And may the Lord reward you abundantly my dear Mel and Jim. Here on earth and more so in heaven. Mel Gibson and Jim Caviezel to me. These are real warriors. These are true Christians. What's the point? I'm the head of the church. And I'm a coward. What's the point? I need real men for the Lord Jesus. Men that do not fear. Men that will stand in the face of evil. Not being sold for 30 pieces of silver. Yet calling themselves leaders. The Lord Jesus is a warrior. The warrior. But unfortunately the 21st century Christians are weak. Very weak. They sold their master for money.