Dennis Prager and Glenn Beck in Conversation! (6/30/17)

e Dennis Prager here for my weekly fireside chat except I have no Fireside but other than that it's a fireside chat there's one other exception it's also not in my house that you can probably see the other exception is that I'm going to be with somebody which is very rare so it's got to be somebody quite special and uh he didn't show up so I'm here that's very cute yes he did show up now here's the issue I was thinking about this there there is a rarified crowd of whom it can be said they need no introduction and I think you qualify this is Glenn Beck and uh but what I want to do is ask you and I'm very serious now okay can you and I we love kidding around and we'll do plenty of that but I I want you to to tell my viewers or anyone for that matter but my viewers are those who were viewing and that is how would you that down in in the in a serious way how would you want to be known it's not an easy question by the way you want a serious answer yeah I want a serious answer um as somebody who um tried to do his best [Music] um um grew into being a better man and better father and better spouse right so that's that's okay that and that's beautiful you don't like no no no that's fine you don't like the answer I do but it's all micro which is very powerful and now give me the macro answer Superman okay be able to spin around the earth and turn it how do you mean in other words you gave me a a personal answer that so like professionally or the the the yes the the larger Picture answer that's what you just said is beautiful but you know so would you want to be known are you a talk show host are you uh your own producer or you I would like to be um uh Storyteller um uh entrepreneur and um I think just that Storyteller and entrepreneur so tell my also one other thing before we get started just tell them where they can find you in case they don't know um today uh on the corner of Santa Monica Boulevard in about an hour um I'll be there and I need a ride to the airport that is dangerous yeah you may get yes Bou Boulevard and and uh how can they find you electronically Hollywood and Vine which is weird because they don't all intersect but um uh glennbeck.com right the blaze.com okay anyway it's great to have you uh you and I have been together on a number of occasions so may I say something yeah please um uh I've said this to you but I want to say it to your audience I have so much respect for you Dennis I have um you know I told you when you were in Dallas recently about the same about the same time we both saw the future and we both chose a course and one of us actually accomplished something good uh and Prager you is truly remarkable and what you've accomplished um is um honestly I I wish I would have done something uh even in my life that will amount to half of what prer he was already doing well coming from you it's a big deal thank you uh I I I will tell you I I did not expect this the the I guess the word is success I had I did not expect it I first I feel find this of interest I I wrote a book on happiness and I have a chapter on having low expectations yes but I and I actually try to live by what I preach I'm I'm a a bizarre guy and I I I really do I actually walk through life with essentially no expectations you you have the best chance of being happy yes and it's the best thing you could do you know where I learned it by the way you'll find this of interest because you're a religious Mormon I'm a religious Jew and I learned this from a Buddhist and uh it was in in taking comparative religion in England my junior year the Buddhist professor in my class at the University of leads in England said so buddhism's and answer to the problem of suffering is this if uh all suffering comes from desires that are unfulfilled and expectations that are unfulfilled and the expectations the clouds parted it was an epiphany and I adopted that the rest of my life but I just want to add I rejected not having desires that that's a that's a place too far that's a step too far cuz I I desire peace I desire a cure for cancer I I desire to to have and and yes and I have I want I want a nice house I want I want to raise good kids I have a million desires I'm okay with desires not expectations yeah I think it's very Victor Frankle man search for meaning I mean it's it's very Victor Frankle that if you just find meaning in the moment you're good Find meaning in the suffering you know the suffering um uh you know this is one of the things that really bothers me uh in the last couple of decades and that is that we and and this I have to be really careful because this is a nuanced point but we are trying to eliminate all suffering all trouble all problems um if my daughter had my da my daughter has cerebal paly and seizures and if there is anything that I could do that could reverse that and stop it right now I would I'd give any amount of money to do that I'd give I'd give my life if she could have a good clear rest of her life I really would but at this point that's not possible and if I see the things that um because of her cerebal paly the good that has happened in my life the things that I have learned um and you know we can either choose um to focus on the bad or we can say there is a purpose to everything and what's the purpose of this what am I supposed to learn I you know I I happen to believe that that uh god um is is present in our life at all the time and so I look at don't I write coincidence off I I think there's meaning behind that but it's not necessarily going to work out the way I think it is it's there's a meaning for everybody I meet and everything I do and every mistake that I make if I learn from it how big a role is God play in your daily life uh almost all of it meaning what is that mean see I I I believe in God I'm sure I'm not sure it's not I take that back it's a rare almost foolish comment that came out I I don't I can't compare my faith and your I don't mean our religion I mean just level of Faith but God is Central to my life but I if I if you if I asked you if I asked me what I just asked you how does God play a role daily in my life I would have only one answer that I I I do everyday think what does he want me to do but other than that I can't say that he plays that prominent role I assume he plays much more prominent role he um my life would be completely different if it wasn't for him completely different um uh as a recovering alcoholic and a guy who screwed up my entire life um I had no place to go and I was really truly on the road of repeating uh my mother's life and she was an alcoholic and drug addict and committed suicide and um I sobered up and uh I just couldn't hold it and you know coincidence after coincidence after coincidence led me to who the woman who's now my wife she I had gone at 30 um to take one class at Yale it's all I could afford and I was going to do one class at a time uh and by the time that that semester started I had um filed for divorce and um couldn't afford school anymore um but if you ever want to find God go to Yale s seriously it's all over Yale um so I left after just one semester all screwed up with God and just not believing in any religion or anything and my wife um you know helped me really see the light and and I he changed me he gave me a second chance and changed me and um and by living um the principles that I believe in uh it has totally changed my life my perspective I don't bad things happen and I don't perceive them as bad I I I can be happy with whatever happens good or bad I don't I don't worry about really very much um and it's it's given me great strength and courage and every day um you know that I I get up I I mean I firmly believe I know what I did with my life for the first half and I started obeying his rules and listening to him and doing what you just said what what do I what do you want me to do today um and I've done some crazy things with my career and everything else but it's just been trying to be obedient to him Kellogg was going to do a study on my company at one point um and they said you make uh every decision you guys make is is a is is crazy it it should never work out and it always works out and they wanted to know why we make the decisions we make and I said they're not going to like the answer cuz it's SC I I just feel that I'm being obedient what do you say to the to the guy watching who uh every decision turns out bad um that I am on a very um lucky streak and my kids ask me all the time uh to stop saying what I tell them and that is enjoy it while it lasts and they said to me why do you say that Dad and I said because this isn't reality this not reality and don't get comfortable with this because it can go away at any time enjoy it right now um and it's harder um to say that when you were at the bottom and I have been down at the bottom and I I I know know someday this crazy life that I live is is going to change and and end and I could be right back you know where I started financially but I have been rich and I have been poor and rich and poor and honestly there are times that my wife and I look at each other and say in some ways we were much happier when we had nothing in other ways it's sweet but it it it it really depends on um your perspective I don't think God cares um what kind of car we drive or how successful we are he cares about how happy you are and if Victor Frankle can find meaning in a concentration camp that's who I want to be so let me go to whether some other stuff now uh I don't know if you I don't expect you to be aware of this but I I have been in an somewhat ongoing uh very respectful thank God uh debate with very many conservatives oh I know you do I do I actually wanted to ask you about it um because I wanted to know what category I'm in with you what category am I in I I would assume that you are more of the more critical than I am of the president president oh yeah but am I in a never Trump I don't know you would have to answer that what were you during the election know oh I was a never Trump um but he's the president and so what good does that do um and he's done some great things he's done the he's done U Gorsuch which I think is tremendous and I cheer and I even said on the air the day that happened when he nominated and then when we got him cuz I was early on going I don't believe this guy will do it I don't think what the never Trumper said don't believe it and I really didn't I went on the air as soon as he nominated him and again after it went through and said I apologize I was completely wrong on that and good for him good for him good for us um and I take it piece by piece so H I had I was totally opposed to him during the nomination and said from the beginning I'll vote for him if he's nominated yeah I've I've stayed completely consistent with what I said whether that's good or bad I don't know but I have so my argument was and this is this is where I'd like to flush you out because this is disturbing to me I I've narrowed because I love Clarity and I think I've narrowed my difference with fellow conservatives who are much more opposed to the president than I am and I wrote this and I've lectured on it and that is I believe we are in a nonviolent Civil War in this country I believe we're in a cold war a cold that's fair a cold Civil War by the way do you have like a folding chair cuz I think those would be more comfortable than these I don't are these you found in a garage s this is not my home nor this is real I yeah no no that's real yes so next time you come over to the house we'll give you a great okay but uh I I I um I do believe that in other words I believe that the the left not liberals I say this all the time oh yeah Liberals are a non-issue but the left is destroying western civilization in Europe and therefore in in the west yes and in the United States that everything I believe in they don't believe it there it isn't this is where I think you and I right now might differ you have Greater Hope for American Unity than I do I see my role is to Vanquish the left it gives me no joy uh but if I am right that uh leftism is a cancer in the western bloodstream that it is it is it has already rendered Europe a Godless and you and I Take God seriously and I don't mean from a theological standpoint I mean from a practical standpoint no God no wisdom no God no children no God no marriage no God no future no God excuse me no no no basis for uh determining good and evil Beyond opinion uh it's you lose your will I I I will go a step further with you um I wrote a fiction book called The Eye of molok and um in it I talk a little bit about the the God molok and uh how in the Old Testament he was worshiped and I truly believe that without even knowing it we are in a society right now that is is literally reenacting the worship ceremonies that uh that happened in the Old Testament that just evil okay so fine all right so you are going even further than I fair enough okay so in light of that in the last election and by the way I I mean it's just I'll give one more example because on Race okay the liberal position which I hold is race is irrelevant your skin color is as of as little importance to me as your Sho size yes and I mean that literally I live it I believe it I could be hooked up to to a a lie detector Dennis Prager do you give a damn about race and I will say no I do not give a damn about race the my blood pressure will not go up one iota because it means nothing to me the only thing that means something to me is that it means nothing to me right in other words that is a positive good that race means nothing the Nazis thought it meant something that the left emulates the Nazis in saying race is important is frightening so in light of that if I don't defeat the left then racism literal racism wins the belief that race is determinative and in every area of human endeavor that is my foe so I had a Democrat representing the left I had a God knows what representing the alternative between God knows what and I know what I'll take God knows what and I turned out to be right because he is governed as the the greatest conservative since Reagan okay K what do you want me what do you want me to say here wa is that a rhetorical question or yeah no I I mean I I don't uh I I I couldn't disagree with you more that he has uh uh been the greatest conservative since Reagan in his first what six months um I I he he is not inspiring uh like Reagan did he is not inspiring the the the entrepreneur and the dreamer um uh the individual he's he's certainly not doing that um he's certainly not uh inspiring people to be the best of who they are he is um I think doing tremendous damage to our culture tremendous damage to uh our families and tremendous how how our families I understand the culture uh how do I have my kids look at the president and I say you're going to act like that okay um uh tremendous damage with that being said he has passed some policies that I like and he's the president so I will support him when I can and I will speak out when I have to okay well okay if he if the if this was a parliamentary democracy he called elections for two months from now would you vote for him depending on who was running a Democrat will run dep I think they're interchangeable I don't see any difference between Joe Biden and Hill on ethics I don't see any difference really between Joe Biden and Mitch McConnell oh well I do I don't I don't know why you but well I I I mean here's the thing I mean look at healthc care and I want to I I want to try to move this conversation to someplace else in a second but you look at healthc care um Donald Trump is is on record stating he wants a single-payer system where the government pays for everything that's ridiculous and that is not conservative right but that's not his position now no he is taken both now but now he is saying this today he came out and said that maybe should repeal all of it and then come back and look at it that I'll cheer for that I'll cheer for this particular thing that he's doing now is going to have our DNA D DNA all over it um it's not going to help it's going to make people more Angry uh and it's it's a it's a nightmare it's a nightm more angry because the Press will tell them to be angry when you are when the the society is saturated with one message people take it seriously unfortunately so that's why aren't they angry at Obamacare so that's where you're exactly right um because of the media so let me go here that's why I'm such a huge supporter of prageru why I do have hope in um not going from a cold Civil War to a hot Civil War um Let me Give two things first play this out let's say we get everything that we want to get everything he does everything but he has just stuck it to the other side so much Martin Luther King would tell you you're doomed as a nation let's say Hillary gets in and she um gets and the Democrats get everything they want and we're living in this Progressive utopian Nightmare and they stick it to the other side at some point on either side there's going to be 30 40 50% of the American people who will not go there we're in a civil war we're in a hot Civil War or we're in concentration camps or we're something because what do you do with 30 or 40 50% of the population that doesn't agree we have lost the battle both sides have now both sides have lost the battle for the American Heart and the American Heart Is Rock solid in many cases and our people are undereducated on both sides the idea of listening to Glenn Beck um or rush linau or Dennis Prager and getting the best conservative argument does help some but most people are getting their argument on television and they're getting these talking points while they're screaming and they'll remember halfway what that guy said to the other guy and was like yes ah I got to remember that but they cannot go any deeper they'll say that and you'll say okay well well help me think this through they have absolutely no idea that's why Prager University is so important the second thing is I have been working on um on on myself for about four or five years and you can call this a design flaw with me but I grew up in an alcoholic family I was the pleaser I was the one that was just trying to make peace believe it or not most people don't believe this is because of my my you know my record my history but it's the reason why I turned CNN down three times and I turned Fox News down four or five times I don't want to do that I don't want to be a part of that but I do believe the country is in in trouble so I will do my duty so I can help save the nation but as I was sitting there at Fox and I saw that we were making an impact and then the impact didn't really work and and people would still they abandon their values they are looking for they've given up hope they're looking for anybody that's a strong man that will give it to the other side and the other side deserves it sometimes but so do we sometimes we don't stand for what we say we believe so we're two-faced they are too take the alt-right and the antifas and the the Crazy Bill SS people on both sides take them out I think we're left with if I'm on a really cynical day 50% of America that just says I don't want to do this I don't I don't care anymore I don't want to listen I don't want to fight anymore I don't want to believe that about my neighbor I know people who are decent and they're not like that but we're finding that more and more of our friends are like that that we can't talk to that we can't have relationships with I read a letter on the air this week from a woman who said please help me I cannot speak to my mom and my dad anymore she's in her 20s they're rabidly anti Trump and I can't speak to them anymore and I ask my audience do you want hang on do you want to live this way I think for 50% of the country on a bad day but I think it's closer probably to 70 or 80% they say no I don't want but they have no one to model they have no one to say look to be able to make a difference um and to be able before you even talk about a single policy we have to restore Trust of one another and we're never going to trust the politicians I've been here in La for the last week and I've met with some of the biggest uh names in um in Hollywood and Silicon Valley I did this about eight months ago I heard a lot of anger and a lot of fear eight months ago this time around sitting in meetings that had far more Progressive liberals who really disagree with me I had several people say to me I am just as afraid and maybe even more afraid of the left we've got to stop this there are people who disagree with us strongly on policies that are not part of the crazies and we're all being the the Press is like at the line of scrimmage and all of the teams are lined up and we're just beating each other like this for a yard or two to go here there's no chance of getting a touchdown we have to we have to talk to the people around and say I don't want to be that way anymore Martin Luther King was right reconciliation is our only option Malcolm X said we got to win if you want to win it implies there is going to be a loser what do we do if we win with 30% of the country that has just lost well it's very eloquent I am I'm glad that you you spoke I it comes from your heart and there's a great Hebrew saying words that come from the heart ENT through the heart I heard you very clearly I have very similar emotions but my mind uh know I'll tell you where my mind Dennis so you know I have the same thing in my mind I look I'm working with some behavioral scientists right now on how can we crack this code how can we crack this code almost all of them left and right say to me first thing no way we're we're in we're we're headed for a hot Civil War okay so well first of all let me just say thank you for the kind words of our PR University that is what you just dreamt of is what we're doing we are in a civil and every one of our videos is civil everyone but that's the secret okay well it's break can break through well it's it's half the secret you can be civil and stand for nothing or even civil and stand for things that aren't w't good but the the the problem is when you said that there was a 20-year-old woman who said that her parents she can't or parents can't talk to her or whatever what whatever it was I knew without you're saying it even though theoretically it could have been either side I knew the parents hated Trump okay how I know hang on I was just with somebody yesterday where it's the oppos is 30 that is the exact opposite okay fine I I said it's theoretically possible the new New York Times though which is anti-trump we can acknowledge that had a piece around Christmas at time last year actually between new Thanksgiving and Christmas and it was about it was on the front page all the people who were not going for Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner this year to people they differ with on Trump but it the article said it's overwhelmingly the the the Democrats in the family the leftwing people in the family that are boycotting Christmas and Thanksgiving it's not I I don't know I know plenty of prot trump people I don't know one who won't talk to their kids or their parents because they voted for Hillary I don't know one I'm not saying they don't exist right but everyone practically including the New York Times knows the opposite so they hate I hate their views they hate us it's a big difference and how could they not we're six herb sexist intolerant xenophobic homophobic islamophobic racist bigoted we don't have these labels for them our label for them is wrong and that's it that ends the issue you're wrong but we are evil in their eyes so we must be shut down we must uh an couter goes to campuses with bodyguards Ayan Hy Ali a black woman raised Muslim genitally mutilated needs bodyguards I know but the most radical anti-American voice needs no bodyguards it is why my friends that I met with this week and I use friends Loosely my new friends that people I had dinner with people I have talked to this week have said to me I am more afraid one guy I am more afraid of the left others I'm becoming more afraid of the left and most of it revolved around the universities because of what's Happening they're shutting down all freedom of speech at the universities they're becoming militant there they are seeing it regular people are seeing it but first blessed be the peacemakers two this is the exact same argument that happened in the 1960s with Malcolm X and and Martin Luther King not the same because Malcolm X and Martin Luther King were both fighting basically decent people White America whatever one wants to say I believe that the wasp and I'm a Jew saying this the WASP for all their human flaws the American wasp has made a decent wonderfully exceptionally decent society when your enemy is uh let's see in in in in Johnson case so who was who was president then was it was it Johnson I'm sorry was it Kennedy Kennedy Lyndon Johnson okay fine the these are not evil people they were not fighting evil they were fighting basically decent people and when you're fighting basically decent people M Martin Luther King's imagery of nonviolence and civility is the only way to go forward they weren't fighting decent people they were they were fighting people that were lynching them and spray no well wait well lynching by then had pretty much stopped thank God if you think the South were you know the the when the clan was sing the freedom buses itn't a but it was American whites Dwight Eisenhower a republican in the 50s sent troops in to Arkansas okay to to to to desegregate a university so let's let's be clear the the bulk of America yes there is a there is a tragically awful segment of the South that was simply racist pure and as as pure as racism gets but America was moving away from that belief including many Southerners Jimmy Carter came from Georgia uh so uh I I I don't want to overstate or understate how how bad it was at any given time but I also don't want to get off off the off the track I think see here's another thing there's a very interesting differ you you cited the biblical passage blessed be the peacemakers right and I mean to differ with that is like differing with we need oxygen to breathe okay so I I I'm with you but it's very interesting to me because I I really I enjoy this immensely I actually do this you it's a you should do this with religious friends what's what what do you think is the most important verse in the Bible it's a very interesting little test and I because I've tested myself on this my whole life because I'm a student of the Bible and by the way one of my answers is Genesis 1:1 in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth because if you don't accept that don't even read Genesis 1:2 there's nothing to read after that so I I can make a case for that but I want you to know that the animating biblical verse of my life is those of you who love God must hate evil and I believe that doesn't sit f well with you because the word hate is in there and I think that bothers you and I'm not saying this critically I'm just I we we all have emotional and intellectual reactions to to to to words I think hating evil is a beautiful thing I think it's a loving thing to do I will stand um Dennis I went I took my family to awz 5 six 7 years ago and I had them read about some of the righteous among the Nations mhm and I asked each member of the family including me and my wife everybody has to read about one person who saved Jews in Poland and then we'll go and um my children and I went and uh um one daughter um couldn't make it very far my other daughter I will never ever forget the one miserable paly um standing in the room where they had um the canes and the um Wheelchairs and the limbs and my daughter knew she wouldn't have lived um and I met with a uh righteous among the Nations I arrang this 91-year-old woman to sit with the with us for an afternoon and talk and um I asked her I said I think real trouble is coming I think old evil is coming again and I want to know how do you water the seed of righteousness how do I do it I believe everybody has it in in them and I believe that that is one reason why the Lord has given me a voice um to be able to uh um warn that evil is you know George Bush used to say freedom is on the March evil is on a rampage all around the world and we have got to stand up to it and I said to her how do I water that tree so my myself and my children are prepared and we have the tree of righteousness and she looked at me and she said you misunderstand the righteous didn't suddenly become righteous they just refused to go over the cliff with everyone else we are a world that is going over the cliff Up Is Down left is right wrong is right um and no one is seeing it everyone is seeing it but they're not allowed to look at it they're being shouted Ed down they're being told what to think um and all of us know all of us know something is really wrong something is bad so uh I don't um I don't mind um talking about good versus evil and believe me uh I'm I would so love to have one extra passport I know people who have passports I know one good friend of mine has given passports to Ireland for all of his kids I know people who have passports over in Singapore for his whole family I want Israeli passports and I know those will be the most unpopular next to the Americans but I am dying on my feet I am dying with a group of people who know exactly what they're fighting and they will never ever give into evil so my problem is I don't believe that uh hate is useful hate and fear Cloud our reason and we need to be crystal clear I know evil exists I know it we are in the challenge of our of our of Our Lives I believe this is a Time that will be recorded a hundred years from now and and they either luckily or to our shame history will remember our names and historians will look back and say what did Glenn Beck do what did his family do what did his children do I want my great grandchildren and my great great grandchildren to be able to unlike many Germans to be able to stand up and say my dad or my grandparent or my great-grandparent they stood they stood against it but I don't want them to look back and see videotape uh or you know anything recorded digitally that um teaches them hate okay so here's a here I so I was right it was it's a verse that doesn't make you comfortable I I think the verse is awesome if you love God how could you not hate evil I I just I can't resonate I don't have a problem with hate I have a problem with immoral hate it's like I don't have a problem with killing I have a problem with immoral killing no act virtually no Act is intrinsically wrong or right it's the context yeah hatred the the Jewish belief is that the the temple was destroyed and the whole Jewish Commonwealth was destroyed and it's fascinating they don't blame it on the Greeks they blame it on the Jews themselves and the reason every kid who goes through Jewish studies learns this this is not esoteric and the reason the rabbis of the talm would give is that Jews hated each other for no good reason it's called hatred gratuitous hatred but the point is there's also non gratuitous hatred there's gratuitous hatred pointless meaningless baseless and then there is earned hatred so is it so is it something that you are proud of and that you say yeah that's good um and want your children to see that this is good and righteous when as simple basic entry level of an eighth grade hatred when I'm tweeting something a lie about MAA uh and say she was over I I because I think that wait that shovels the hatred all right th that's this stuff that this stuff does enter the realm of gratuitous hatred on I I agree with you on both sides okay I agree with that but but just to establish the point when I read what I won't say on the air because I think it's it's it's too horrific I just read a piece about what Isis did to some yazidis oh I know okay it do you do you not hate them do you not hate Isis um I uh I will tell you that they um make me enraged with what they're doing why do you hesitate at the word hate it's it's it's biblically based it's rational moral why why I don't I don't embrace the word but I will tell you this Dennis because um when I see that and honestly I have I have said I want them dead I want them all killed I don't I don't want to understand why they're doing these things right um but what I've done instead is instead of hating I have channeled it to where my audience and I have we have moved 6,000 refugees out of Iraq and Syria to other countries any country that would take them we vetted them we found them we uh moved them we paid for two years of their living expenses so they could get on their feet we taught them a new language and we moved 20,000 refugees out of camps into new homes in Northern Iraq all right that's okay that's I I I'll happily contribute to your effort I'm not joking no no no yeah I'm just saying that's how supportive I am but do you think Angela Merkel was right in taking 800,000 into blind foolishness okay right so that brings me by the way to another point that I just want to share with you I uh you you said I didn't want to interrupt you but you said something about God and Yale and you're not referring to Buckley G and just in general uh uh it's very funny because there's anyone of you watching and certainly you could could see right now on the internet a piece I wrote about 20 years ago how I found God at Colombia and and in a nutshell it's very simple I was going a little nuts I was in graduate school at the Russian and Middle East institutes School of International Affairs those was my my fields and I was I was taught nonsense I was taught men and women are basically the same I was taught that America and the Soviet Union were equally responsible for the Cold War bright men were teaching me nonsense and it was driving me nuts how could this be and I swear to you because the only never happened any other time in my life a verse from the Bible that I had learned in Yeshiva uh in in first grade in our morning prayers we said this every morning in Hebrew and it is wisdom begins with fear of God or fear of the Lord and this was said every day and I realized oh my God that's the answer there's no God at Colombia so there's no wisdom at Colombia and and and and and here's my punchline this is the key line though what I have now realized and I'm this I mean now literally in the last six months it's painful I wish I knew this 25 years ago the biggest problem is is not that people want to do bad it's a of wisdom MH and I the the left believes you can make a good Society rooted in compassion and I now realize that is not true a good Society is rooted in wisdom compassion without wisdom is worthless wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times Isaiah right and it's a very isn't the wisdom is it book of wisdom isn't one of the the key books of of Mormonism uh yeah I think so this is very funny old maybe is that Old Testament no no no it's not Old Testament but uh I thought I know there's there's a no that's apocryphal I don't remember all right it doesn't matter maybe I got it wrong Jew telling a Mormon what book he has all right what are you going to do um anyway we got to wrap up we just ter so so go go ahead can I just say this yes I found God at Yale too by learning learning all of the things that were hogwash and at the same time I learned a quote from Thomas Jefferson when it comes to religion Above All Things fix reason firmly in her seat for if there be a God he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear you apply that to your life and everything changes that's good stuff you know we could do this for we could probably do this was a marathon I don't know the tie makes me uncomfortable well I the second I saw you I said I was overdressed this this happened as soon as I walked I mean you're in California you may be the only person who owns a jacket here I think that is correct yes that that is certainly true I came to realize you and I both had to Wear Ties we went over this earlier yeah in high school yeah I didn't stop I like them I like ties too so it's it's just and so right now it's pretty much I realize as part of my Persona almost is my white hair and so I'm not getting rid of my hair and I'm not getting rid of my ties can I tell you something I started wearing bow ties uh about five years ago CU I've always liked them and I got I have my white hair and I thought you know what I am to the age now where I can be eccentric I love that I'm no longer a freak I'm eccentric so are you wearing bow ties a lot web tells you a lot yeah all right that's great you're a joy you are a total Joy thank you very much I thank you so this is one of these exceptional Fireside Chats right bring in somebody exceptional and Glenn Beck qualifies see you next week I'm Dennis Prager e e e e