Will and Amala are live discussing the wokeness at the MET Gala, interviewing Chris Rufo on Big Tech and CRT, paying tribute to Norm Macdonald, and interviewing Christy Wright on her new book “Take Back Your Time.”
0:00 - Will Wears Blue Dress to MET GALA 2:27 - Woke Celebs at the Met Gala 15:28 - Chris Rufo Discusses Twitter De-Verification, Exposing Big Tech, & CRT In Schools 38:09 - RIP Norm Macdonald 44:27 - Interview w/ Christy Wright (Ramsey Solutions Personality and Author of “Take Back Your Time”
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uh it's it's kind of a lot of work like
walking down this runway and having all
the paparazzi pictures and everything uh
at this gala is this your first met gala
or
oh i've been to multiple met galas oh
really i'm a seasoned met gala veteran
oh my gosh well so what are you doing
with the theme this year like tell me
about your your outfit this year my very
fun blue dress okay it's uh it
represents where i live the blue ridge
mountains in tennessee oh okay and there
used to be a native american tribe there
until the white man moved it out
and so now i am wearing this dress as in
solidarity to give the land back to the
natives wow that is so brave yeah i mean
not my house
okay but the other places in the blue
ridge those go back to no not where i
live but that is really the other ones
you know that's what i'm all about no
but honestly i mean like we're here to
make statements you know and i think
it's like super brave of you to walk out
here and really do that i think that's
great yeah no i uh you know i also did
last year i had this this other blue
dress
it was against the police you know even
though after obviously this guy tried to
attack me and the police saved me but
you know the thing is is that those kind
of things don't matter when we have a
systematic
oppression of all sorts of things in
this country right yeah i think we kind
of went in similar directions as you can
see i'm wearing a black dress uh there's
no other colors present especially not
white because you know i can never have
whiteness sort of come into
a space that i'm surrounded in or an
environment that i'm surrounded in so
that was really important to me and my
designer in this dress
um so
what would really happen is we decided
to use black dye of course but what was
really important in the components of
the dye that went into this dress is
that we actually used tears collected
from white males to uh make this die for
this dress
i'm sorry did you say black dye
yes you want black people to die sir no
no no no i'm just saying that die on the
dress
i would never say anything that
semantically led anybody to black death
do you understand that
i don't know if i believe that
unseen i was not expecting you to say
that
what do you mean you weren't expecting i
don't know it's really clever i wasn't
expecting you if you're gonna say
something racist
i'm gonna call you out for it
i was like trying to keep the leftist
character while that was happening uh in
my brain but it was uh it was definitely
tough i almost short circuited there for
a second but that skit was in regard to
the met gala and if any of you are in
tune to pop culture and really anything
happening with the sphere of elites when
it comes to the met gala this year in
particular was was quite a fun one i'm
going to show you a tweet here so let's
let's just remind you all that the met
gala is really a show of prosperity
wealth and elitism we have celebrities
politicians show up in this space and
the most extravagant outfits all
pertaining to one theme now the theme
this year was meant to be america and
here is what some of our
yes that's what the theme was yes oh no
way i had no idea the theme was meant to
be america that was the theme of the met
gala this year now here's who we have
showing up we have this woman here and
equal rights for women
outfit well no it's funny that she has
an equal rights for women outfit well
actually we'll get into some of the
other pictures so i'll save this
commentary okay save it okay zipped it
up next we have cara delevingne in a peg
the patriarchy outfits
really does sound painful for you well i
don't know who this patriarchy guy is
i'm sure he's not going to enjoy it i'm
i'm anticipating a painless experience
for myself and a not so painless one for
you uh this one we have megan rappanel
with in gay we trust not in god we trust
but in her very uncle sam esque outfit
in gay we trust
and lastly this young lady here in her
tax the rich dress
i don't there's got to be some of the
other pictures from here because i
wanted to show some of the other ones
that have maybe you can pull it up
online try and find it there's a lot of
them under here the one with with
our favorite new york city congressman
and she's walking down the aisle but and
this is with all the people not just her
but with all the people who are walking
down getting their photos taken and
everything you see all of the other
people there like the wait staff or
whoever and they're all in masks
they're all sitting there they're all in
black they're in mask is that one i'll
find it for you
because i want i want people to see
because it's actually like a very stark
contrast and i think it plays to the the
greater
the greater problem the greater problem
of what this is essentially that these
people are the slaves and these are the
masters
in a way that these people are
essentially like they can go out and not
have to wear masks but then you have to
send your children to school for eight
hours a day masked even when they are
less likely to die or get sick from the
virus than someone who is older yet they
have to wear masks for eight hours a day
in school and these people at the met
gala don't have to but then all the wait
staff and the people who aren't the
famous elites have to stand there in
their masks
looking on as these rich people walk by
yeah i mean it's just so emblematic of
actual true leftist elitism in this
country it makes no sense and to show up
to a met gala and let's give you the
metrics on this a seat at the met gala
or just you know a ticket to the met gal
is 30 000
if you want to sit at a table it's 275
000
to sit at a table at the met gala and
here we have
what was that buy a table
yeah yeah to have a table at the met
gala yeah so these people show up
wearing their tax the rich gowns and
equal rights for women and we are women
fighting against the patriarchy as you
spent thirty thousand dollars to even
get into the venue yeah
i mean it's so
it is for we have to be frank that i
mean it is for charity i mean that's
what the mcgill is about it's about it's
a charity event so that's what it's
supposed to be but the thing is is that
you know and i you can look this up i
mean aoc got her ticket for free to go
to this event but regardless of all that
is that the problem is that these people
claimed in interviews one with vogue
claimed that she was part of the working
class she said she was part of the
working class you don't go to the met
gala in a dress and have like other
people she had her like weight staff she
has this long dress right and she's got
these other people who are holding the
dress behind her like some sort of like
old school emperor not letting his i
like
like having his kimono touch the ground
these people are like holding up her
dress and you claim that you're a part
of the working class you make 175 000 a
year you when the pandemic happened what
kind of pay cut did you take oh no you
didn't take a pay cut oh wait oh you
actually got a pay raise well you told
the rest of us that we had to shut our
businesses down and that we weren't
allowed to to work and that some of us
were non-essential well you stayed with
more money and getting all these deals
and i'll go into the met gala unmath i
mean what a ridiculous hypocritical
thing to do to claim you are part of the
working class to claim that you know
what we are going through that normal
people are going through is the most
ludicrous thing and this is what
communists do communists do this they've
been doing it for ages i mean like in
north korea and and mao and and stalin
all these guys they lived lives of
luxury and then told you that they were
helping you
but they weren't they weren't helping
you at all they lie and they live their
rich lives full of splendor and wealth
and they tell you that your health
they're helping you and really in
reality they are oppressing you and they
hate you they look down on you these
people getting their photos taken are
looking at the wait staff who are there
in their mass and they're looking down
on them and saying you vermin disgusting
they're not in my position like it's
horrible that's that's what communists
do and regardless i know the med gala is
is for charity it doesn't matter you you
are women all of them here except for
are our sitting uh politician
millionaires millionaires walking this
little carpet talking about how
oppressed you are while you live in your
ivory towers with your private police
and your millions and millions of
dollars of annual revenue and you want
to hop on on this carpet wearing dresses
that say equal rights for women and peg
the patriarchy and then gay we trust
yeah think about that replacing the word
god with the word gay on
on the world stage for the met gala it
is ridiculous and it's the highest form
of just
utter elitism that we've probably seen
this entire year well how can these
people claim that they're part of these
oppressed groups i mean equal rights for
women in gay we trust you are at one of
the most prestigious events ever having
your pictures taken by tons of people
getty images i mean paying tons of money
to be there with the literally the
richest people in the world some of the
richest people most famous people in the
world and you are claiming that you are
oppressed
this is again how communists work they
tell you that you're oppressed they tell
you that you have all these struggles
and that they are a part of it this is
no populist message this is no
nothing that is for the people this is
an oligarchical elitist society that is
using you i mean how can you not see
when you watch these people walking down
the runway that if you find these people
to be endearing or as a champion for
your rights or as someone who is a role
model for you you are a slave you have a
slave mentality if you believe these
people have your best interests at heart
this is it's not even left first right
it is slave versus master by looking at
these people and saying wow these people
are trying to control everything i do
and claim that it's for social justice
for the greater good well they go and do
none of the things that they try and put
on you yeah wearing these dresses
talking about equal rights and
oppression while snapping their fingers
and asking their their masked up
employees to come and fix the train of
their dress
it is absolutely ridiculous another
half-cafeato
sir right saxophone
woman for the oppressed woman yeah
please it's like huh the theme of this
is america
all of these women have the opportunity
to step forward onto this stage be
patriotic take a strong stance of love
for this country and go look at me
look at the amount of opportunity that
i've been able to take by being an
american look at where it got me look at
how successful i am because i live in
america and i'm putting my money towards
this cause for charity to make this
country better but no they chose to go
you know what i'm to ignore all the sess
all the success that i've come across in
this country i'm going to ignore the
fact that we don't live in a patriarchy
and that i've been able to become a
successful woman all of these women in
different eras of their career becoming
successful here in america i'm going to
ignore all that and try to sell this
story of oppression that i've heard for
so long and that i feel like everybody
needs to hear
these these people are evil these people
are genuinely evil i mean
look think about all the things that
they have said about people like you me
amla all of us who have these different
types of values they have denigrated us
and turned us into vermin to them that
we are lower class citizens to them you
know they shame us if we don't agree
with them they shame us if we don't do
the things that they want us to do and
then they go and do the exact things
that they were professing before and
then telling us that we are still bad
people for the things that we do i mean
this is genuinely evil behavior to come
and do that to be that type of person
and say that you know you are supposed
to do these things ostracize us and then
go around and do the exact opposite of
what they preach there's really no other
word for it it is evil you have to be
able to see past this i don't know yeah
i don't know how you could be on the
left you could have leftist ideologies
you could you know think more you know
social programs and be more progressive
on social issues like all these things
you could believe in that like fair
enough but there's no way that you can't
look at the elites in this country these
types of people and say that they do not
have your best interests at heart i mean
it is it is practically impossible i
would hope that
like there's more unity between
left-wing populism and right-wing
populism than there is between even you
know conservatives and some of the more
far-right conservatives you know so it's
like
we have to come together with the left
on those things and wake people up on
the left that it's like the elite in
this country are evil and they hate you
and they don't care about you it's all
for them nothing proves oppression
better than wearing
a thousand dollar designer gown with
your oppression oh i'm just saying at
the very least a thousand dollars i
although some of these people show up
and they're decked out in crystals and
pearls and that's tens of thousands of
dollars but at the very least thousands
of dollars on whatever you're wearing
with your your story of oppression
painted right on it in front of a room a
gallery of paparazzis and crystal
chandeliers and and prime artisan
paintings
while you get photographed and watched
by millions and millions of people who
sit and clap for you nothing screams
oppression more than that and you know
what i'm sold i am now a feminist who's
fighting the patriarchy and is going to
fight to tax the rich because these four
women have proven that to me so thank
you we didn't even talk about tax the
rich geez yeah we didn't we didn't even
touch base on that there's just so much
going on so bad it's so bad it makes me
really angry it makes me angry that
these are the people that we herald in
society as our are great people you know
that all of the news stations and the
media comes out and talks about these
types of people heralds them as as
saviors and and and the and great people
that's sad to me that's really sad to me
and that's why it makes me angry because
there are amazing strong people who are
trying to do good things for this
country who don't get enough credit i
mean look we should even be look at the
the people like we have normal everyday
americans who did who took their own
money to send planes to afghanistan to
save american citizens and bring them
back home
what did you hear about them did you
hear anything barely anything people
don't even know these people's names
but you go to this and you see all these
people in million dollars of worth of
dresses and these are the people
heralded as heroes in this country that
that is why it's
angry
angrifying
angering angering infuriating to me
because
it shows such a backwards look on what
society in america is today if if
somebody from any foreign country was
like i want to know about america what
is american culture like this is what
they tune into this is what they get to
see this is their representation of what
america is like and that is atrocious
so stand up for good values and don't
listen to the elite in this country be
an individual be an individual and and
find your own path okay don't let these
people
tell you how to think and feel because
they're all losers and we need to get a
total and complete shutdown of all of
this
until we can figure out what's going on
seriously it should be illegal it's
really on it's like this is that was
horrible it was horrible anyways let's
let's cool ourselves down for a second i
posted twice on instagram yesterday on
my feed which i never do i never post
twice on instagram in one day because
even though craig probably wants me to
but i choose not to and i did because i
was like this is just
goodness gracious right right
well before will uh spontaneously
combust no i'm not gonna combust
we are gonna move on to our next segment
which we had an extremely special guest
and that's christopher ruffo we talk
about him all the time on this program
let's just get right into the interview
guys we have an extremely special guest
on the show today it's christopher ruffo
i feel like christopher ruffo is on the
show even when he's not physically here
because we're always covering his
stories he is a fellow at the manhattan
institute as well as our resident crt
expert so christopher thank you so much
for being on the program it's good to be
with you
amazing amazing so you had a sort of a
rough go of things recently you're very
popular on twitter that's the platform
that i feel like most people know and
love you from but you had your
verification badge sort of snatched from
you what happened there
i did yeah my my kind of blue check was
was was disappeared it was taken away uh
very odd you know two things happened in
my kind of tech world i got
about a week ago a notification from
gmail or from google rather where i host
some of my
email systems my non-sensitive email
systems and my cloud storage
and they said that a
government-backed attack was seeking
entry into my email so this was a kind
of state-sponsored intelligence agency
i'm not sure which one foreign domestic
uh was seeking access to my email and
then you know a week later i think you
know by coincidence uh most likely
google just removes my check said i was
incorrectly verified
and and then just snatches it away and i
think that it shows
uh
both our vulnerability as individuals
but also the arbitrary nature of a lot
of the policies from tech which well i
can't say why it happened i can't
discern intentions i don't i don't know
from behind the scenes it at least
raises the suspicion that there is some
kind of bias there's some kind of lack
of transparency there's some kind of
effort you know when you've been a
naughty uh conservative uh they're gonna
take your your stuff away uh that's what
it feels like um
at least to me right i just had my run
in with this uh yesterday i've been
banned off tick tock uh numerous times
now but i went on instagram to do a live
video yesterday nothing political just
to play music for the people who follow
me and banned from from doing live
videos and simply because of community
guidelines violations that go along with
my political beliefs so we share that
space have you had any uh help in sort
of fighting back against this
yeah you know the media has been really
great i had a lot of articles written
about it about it raising some kind of
uh
the alarm sounding the alarm and uh
glenn greenwald's made a nice tweet you
know kind of coming to my defense also
noting that the first time someone was
unverified was julian assange so there
is a kind of backstory to some of this
unverification
uh and and then you know i've had some
people reach out behind the scenes
although if you're listening and you
have any connections with twitter please
reach out to me uh to try to see what
what happened and see if we can get it
fixed um
and you know at the end of the day
we only can do what we do and and i
don't think i'm it doesn't it certainly
doesn't make me feel like i need to
change what i do to censor what i do i
think of myself as a fairly moderate
rationable a rational reasonable person
uh and so it's it's sometimes kind of
funny when you when you look at the when
i look at the news coverage about me and
the new york times or the post they
present me as some kind of flame
throwing
arch-conservative ideologue um and it
just kind of it it just it's like
it's so bewildering it doesn't doesn't
feel like to me that's that's what i am
and uh and uh i oftentimes don't even
recognize myself in some of the coverage
i see you're a white man talking about
crt so that's basically what you get
essentially you are this horrible
conservative nazi racist but almost like
like i'm not verified i have over 100
000 followers on twitter not verified
you know someone like dave portnoy isn't
verified james o'keefe was never
verified i feel like this is kind of for
you in some respect almost a second
badge of honor is being unverified like
the people at twitter these leftists
hate you so much because you speak so
much truth that you get unverified it's
almost like a kind of cool thing to know
yeah yeah exactly it's like the new
verification badge is no verification
back and i'm not just saying that
because i'm unverified you gotta get it
and then get it taken away that's really
the the double the double trick
exactly what do you think is the main
problem when it comes to these big
social media sites i mean we're
obviously seeing you being you know your
blue check mark being taken away we're
seeing censorship about conservatives
all over the place i mean we saw this
during the election and and it's just
all over the shadow banning and and
demonetization all sorts of things do
you think that those kind of things tie
in with a lot of the crt that you talk
about or what do you think is the
biggest problem when it comes to these
big tech overlords we have now you know
i i think there are two types of media
right you have a high production media
so you look at hollywood television
programs uh kind of more artistic
creations that are really dominated by
the left and have been dominated by the
left for many years
and then you look at the
kind of low tech lower production lower
barrier to entry media such as talk
radio facebook twitter uh live streams
podcasts that are that are easier entry
and require less production
conservatives actually do really really
well on those platforms dominate talk
radio you know have historically
dominated kind of sharing on twitter and
so i think what the tech companies have
realized is that uh the people who are
increasingly using this their services
using their platforms and doing actually
really well reaching big audiences
having a lot of influence are people
that are not like them that do not think
like them that do not share the same
values as they do and they're now kind
of shocked they thought that their
platforms would liberate a kind of
progressive utopian vision uh you know
and that would remake the world in their
image and now they're confronted with
this problem that the the the people who
actually oppose that vision in some
cases um
are are using their platform to advance
something different and so they're
trying to figure out what do we do do we
do we
kind of take a heavy-handed approach do
we take a more kind of subtle approach
and this is the thing that we're seeing
and i think the the president trump ban
was really the rubicon uh moment where
they said you know what we're going to
actually start drawing a line and
enforcing a political orthodoxy and and
we're going to take the heat from you
know banning a sitting president
and now we're living in the wake of that
and i know prageru has had many uh many
run-ins i have had my own small run-ins
in my own way uh and we're all in this
fight uh we're all experiencing this
kind of jostling back and forth um and
the future is unknown we'll have to see
what happens yeah it sucks that we have
to go on big tech and big social media
to talk about the censorship that they
are doing to us on their own platforms
it's kind of
ironic in a sense that that's what we
have to do but it's really the best
means of getting our messages out and
you know one thing i hear a lot of
people talking about is you know
creating our own platforms and things
like that as as conservatives and
truth-loving people but for me you know
i i think that people who are
conservative need to be on these social
these other social media platforms
because if we want to influence people
who have a difference of opinion than us
or change their minds you know amela was
a leftist before getting involved with
prageru i was a liberal atheist before
getting involved and it's like if it
wasn't for social media we wouldn't be
in this position what do you think about
the argument of just going and creating
our own social media or do you think we
should try and stick it out with the
ones that we already have i i think that
yeah sure you can create an alternative
platform i don't think there's any harm
in that but what you have is then you
have a kind of a
conservative technological ghetto um you
know conservatives don't have the market
power don't have the uh
kind of engineering power don't have the
aesthetic power to create a true rival
getter and parlor etc will never
have a even a significant market share
compared to twitter uh because they're
derivative products and they're inferior
products frankly
and so i think that the solution is not
to create a kind of echo an alternative
echo chamber at a very small scale you
know the solution is to recognize that
even as a free-market conservative uh
when you have monopoly
conditions you justify some regulation
some government intervention even very
hardcore libertarians would agree under
monopoly conditions whether it's
standard oil or youtube
some government regulation is necessary
and appropriate and i think that when
you have these monopolies youtube again
a kind of video platform monopoly
twitter social media kind of
microblogging monopoly facebook
interpersonal
monopoly in a sense
this now comprises the new public square
and these are really uh public platforms
for public debate and the founders were
very clear on this that political speech
is the most important speech to protect
it's the essential uh speech category of
our first amendment
and therefore i think there's a good
argument to be made that these companies
you know should be i mean look they're
great companies they've created an
incredible public service they've
they've they've allowed people who were
voiceless to have a voice
but there is now i think an obligation
to the public that these should be
essentially a public square services
public square platforms and they should
at least be you know
you you can't be you know threatening to
kill someone there there's certainly a
line right on on on the freedom first
amendment freedom of speech
but i think that there has to be uh
simple neutral uh accountable
transparent mechanisms to guarantee that
people who are uh engaging in political
speech
are are protected and not going to be at
the at the whims of an arbitrary uh
ideological power well sadly they want
to say that they they want to have their
cake and eat it too they want to say
that they're
they have editorial control over what
happens but then they also want to say
that they're a public forum open to all
and that's the the great joke that
they've basically played on as it seems
yeah all while hiding the indoctrination
that they're trying to put people
through now i kind of want to shift
gears to a prageru project that you've
been heavily involved in and is coming
out tomorrow and that is a short
documentary called miss educated so
we're going to play the trailer really
quickly and then we have a couple
questions about your involvement in this
project technology and these lessons are
poison for all kids the design of this
is to put into the minds of kids as
young as kindergarten that you are not
like him he is not like her all of these
things are designed to divide you the
system set up to where if you're
teaching anything about gender identity
that you don't even have to notify
parents when it's being taught parents
have no idea and they don't know how
radically the sex ed is changed here in
america our kids are taught divisive
racial ideologies skewed history and a
new kind of sex education that robs them
of their innocence
this is the miseducation of our children
okay so that's a new prageru short
documentary that's coming out featuring
you christopher ruffo called miseducated
the decline of america schools now this
has been getting out everywhere it's all
over social media on every single
platform i'm seeing people talk about
the infiltration of crt and gender
theory and this really horrible sex
education that young people are being
subjected to in our schools and it seems
like people are fighting back and
responding to it an article out of the
journal says that 1.1 million students
have now left the public school system
and we're seeing a massive boom in
homeschooling do you feel like this sort
of indoctrination is a key player in
that shift
i i think it is i think obviously the
the pandemic was probably the number one
um but the pandemic was number one for
two reasons the pandemic first off
shut down schools so parents are saying
well if my kid wants to learn anything i
better get more involved
but second even for kids who were
attending school virtually parents got a
kind of an ugly look into what's
happening in the classroom what's
actually being taught and then i think
the combination of those two things
really pushed parents to say wait a
minute i need to get more involved i
need to find out what's happening in our
schools
i need to show up at city council me or
rather school board meetings you're
seeing that happening everywhere
and then in some cases i'm better off
actually pulling my kid from the public
school system finding an alternative and
this is uh you know a hardship obviously
for many parents but the the unintended
benefit of this is that parents are now
starting to raise questions about what's
happening parents are seeing a really
ugly side within the public education
system and then they're they're actually
using their creative energies and
faculties to try to find new solutions
and i think that
this is going to be a huge uh uh
jolt of energy for people who want to
see
more
parental control uh kind of better
education better curriculum uh and i
think that that's the first i saw the
trailer so it's very exciting to see
that trailer i think this would also
play a um
a part in getting out that message we
were talking um
before on the show about whether or not
you we've had some states like idaho and
others who have said we are going to ban
crt from being taught in our classrooms
and i said i think that's a good idea i
think that banning it is best when you
are teaching little white kids that
they're racist and little black kids
that they are oppressed i think that's a
horrible thing to do what do you think
about that what's your take on whether
or not it should be
banned or not yeah absolutely you know i
i'm i've definitely have supported that
and worked actually with many of the
state legislatures in texas idaho
tennessee uh florida at the board of
education level um you know nine states
now have done this and i think we're
going to see another five to ten states
uh
join uh join join with this movement
next year when the legislatures are back
in session but it's it's really i think
essential you know you shouldn't teach
that you know for example the language
in many of these bills one race is
superior to another uh members of one
race should be held responsible for the
historical crimes committed by people
who look like them
or that one race or another is
inherently oppressive or racist or
victimized
these are really crass generalizations
and reductions
that only serve to
to fill kids with either
guilt and shame
or pessimism and despair they don't
actually improve educational outcomes
and they're intellectually
kind of bogus formulations so
you know state legislatures have a
responsibility you have limited time in
the classroom what's being taught what's
not being taught they have to make these
selections and the beauty of it is that
now the people the voters the public
through their state representatives get
to decide these are the values we want
to transmit through our public school
systems these are the values we do not
want to transmit through our public
school systems this is the heart of
democracy that is this is the heart of
public control over public education and
i think it's just starting this is a
good a good beginning but we have to now
offer better alternatives better
curricula better pedagogies so that
parents in in in places like texas and
florida in idaho can be confident that
when i send my child to a public school
it reflects my values it reflects my
priorities and they're going to get
something that's valuable
well we live here in los angeles the
hell hole that it is as i'm sure you're
aware and i don't have kids yet
i don't think and um
but one day you know i want to have kids
and let's say my state that i live in
california isn't going to ban crt what
do you say to parents who
live in a state or a city that is not
doing that or not really pushing to to
make these things outlawed what do you
give as advice to those parents on what
they should do for their kids yeah this
is a good question and you know i have
two kids
uh my youngest is or my oldest is in
elementary school my youngest has just
started preschool very exciting
and i live in washington state so it's a
very similar environment and i used to
live in the city of seattle and my wife
and i really kind of you can try to
change the school district the school
system in los angeles or seattle um you
know god bless you if that's your if
that's your your passion and what you're
fighting for but in the by the time your
kids graduate from high school it's not
going to change these are very
slow-moving very entrenched
bureaucracies and institutions so i i
recommend just from a practical point of
view you have a couple options if you
want to like say live in the city of los
angeles or new york or berkeley or
seattle
you have two options one is to move to
go to a part of the state or another
state even that you would find a school
system that is already set up that
reflects your values to a greater degree
that's what i did i moved to a small
town in washington state you have much
better options much better schools
actually my local school district where
i live in rural washington state
banned critical race theory by unanimous
vote so they said nope we're not going
to do this even though we're in
washington state
or you can send your kids to a kind of
alternative school which is a private
school
catholic school religious school
christian school
a jewish school in some places
and you know that costs money but i
think many parents made the decision
make the decision that it's a worthwhile
expenditure if they can afford it uh and
then that's the short-term solution for
you personally the longer-term solution
is to try to get reform uh and then i
think ultimately to try to get more
school choice so that you know i can i
can pull out my kids and send them to
private school i have the means to do so
but every family should have the right
to exit so if you're stuck in a failing
school in the city of los angeles and
you don't have money or in the working
class i think you should be able to take
your education dollars that probably
around eighteen thousand dollars a year
that the city of los angeles uh public
schools are spending on you you should
be able to take that and apply it
anywhere so if you say hey i wanna pull
my kid out of this
failing uh kind of indoctrinating uh
public school in
in south la and i want to go to a
charter school or a private school or a
catholic school you should be able to
take that money with you and i think
ultimately that's really the fight is
the right to exit everyone should have a
right to exit a system that's failing
them and and i think that's what we're
seeing more and more uh from education
reformers well christopher i want to
thank you so much for the work that
you're doing honestly you are an
honorary employee at our podcast with
how much we use your twitter and your
stories
thank you
if you guys want to see more from
christopher you can follow him on social
media you can check out his five-minute
video that he did with us here at
prageru he is also featured in our
upcoming short documentary that comes
out tomorrow called miss educated
christopher thank you so much for being
on thank you so much
so cool what a great opportunity uh
chris is again doing amazing work so i
always like talking to him and seeing
what he's doing and hearing what he has
to say you talk to him a lot i mean
every now and then i've hugged out with
chris a couple times actually wow i
didn't you know oh you know
i don't want to you know don't want to
my own horn but no i
amazing
anyways guys uh so we're going to be
doing a watch party on the show tomorrow
2 30 pst with jill simonian from prageru
kids to go over our newest short
documentary give it a watch give you our
initial reactions called miss education
so i'm looking forward to it we are
looking forward to it you know what i'm
looking forward to uh he's got to do it
you got to do it one week guys in one
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conversations that we're having in
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hopefully it's tough with
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maybe because i'm conservative they're
going to say oh we don't want to put you
on there even though you outsold someone
else so it is kind of arbitrary and it's
it's tough when you're in my position as
a conservative but what i can tell you
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there's no denying that he made this
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wit if you pre-order will's book he will
personally come to your house and change
your mind about something
no that is not in the contract okay
no that's it it would be pretty cool if
it was if scott buys a book
i'll do it
but that's it that's probably about it
yeah i think that's everybody's uh yeah
no we're all on the same yeah
you know if you pre-order a book scott
will come to your house
and change your mind on something or
he'll just like come to your house
no no whatever i think that's enough
ladies
and gentlemen yeah
listen gentlemen too
anyways guys full of jokes today uh now
here is something that came out in the
news today which was nobody in our
office was happy about we're all super
big fans of norm mcdonald
and it turns out that he's passed away
today at the age of 61 after a nearly
decade-long battle with cancer but we
wanted to sort of pay tribute to norm we
are all super big fans of him me
personally from his times on the weekend
update for snl and any any sort of
comedic monologue that you can find of
norm on the internet although we're
going to share the cleaner version today
he's just always been known as a guy who
who tells the truth and does it in a
funny and crass and blunt way and
there's really no other comedians like
norman mcdonald he's just so funny we
were talking about this before the show
was that i'm not as funny as norma
mcdonald but you're very similar i'm
funny but like in the sense of like he
like when we were watching him on the
view there was this clip on the view
that was on old row and he's like
talking about like
murdering clinton's and stuff and he
just like the view cast and the people
they're like you got to stop it like
we're not talking about us anymore and
he's like well wait i want to talk about
it
he like keeps talking about it's like
same thing with i do and almost like we
got to move on i'm like well wait a
second
but i gotta say this i gotta say this
one thing yeah it's the same type of
deal so anyway i respect him a lot he's
like one of the real voices of comedy
right something who's someone who's
actually funny just on his own and
truthful and truthful and just says
what's real he says what's on everyone's
mind yeah he's a man i love him he's
great i don't think i've ever seen a
video of him that did not make me laugh
he's hilarious he's so funny now here's
this clip of him on conan oh brian uh
just enjoy
you get in the car and what happens
uh my driver tells me a joke
the driver we said to pick you up told
you a joke yeah and you're going to tell
it now on the show yeah that's how i get
on my material
okay why don't we just have him on next
time oh that guy
that guy
now wait till you hear me do it
so the guys he goes uh
i say i'll be the guy okay
a moth goes into a podiatrist's office a
moth goes into a podiatrist office you
are correct
a moth goes into a podiatrist's office
and
the potatoes office says what's the
problem and the ma says what's the
problem where do i begin man he goes i
go to work for uh gregory olinovich
and all day long i work
honestly doc i don't even know what i'm
doing anymore i don't even know if
gregory olinovich knows he only knows
that he has power over me and that seems
to bring him happiness
but i don't know i wake up in a malaise
and i i walk here and there
the podiatrist says oh yeah
the moth goes yes he goes
uh at night i i sometimes wake up and i
turn to
some old lady
in my bed that's on my arm
a lady that i once loved doc
i i don't know where to turn to my
youngest alexandria
she fell in the in the in the cold of
last year
the cold took her down as it did many of
us
and my other boy
and this is the hardest pill to swallow
doc
my other boy
gregaro
i no longer love him
as much that pains me to say when i look
in his eyes
all i see is is the same cowardice that
i
that i catch when i take a glimpse of my
own face in the mirror
if only the cowardice was stronger than
perhaps
perhaps i could bring myself to reach
over to that cocked and loaded gun that
lays on the bedside behind me
and then this hellish facade how long
drive was this
do you live in the valley where do you
live
please sorry
he says doc
sometimes i feel like a spider
even though i'm a moth
just
barely hanging on to my web with an
everlasting fire underneath me
i'm not feeling good
and so the moss the doctor says moth man
you're troubled
but you should be seeing a psychiatrist
why on earth did you come here and then
the ma said
because the light was on
[Applause]
good stuff man that was really fun
well rest in peace nor mcdonald a funny
man i mean videos of him and and just
people listening to his comedy is going
to go on for decades and ages i think
he's a timeless man so
yeah what's great about him is that
he had this battle with cancer
incredibly sad for the last seven years
but you didn't hear anything from norm
you didn't hear him talking about his
battle with cancer he didn't come out on
social media and say oh my goodness look
at me i have cancer i'm dying it's so
sad or anything he battled his cancer on
his own he didn't talk about it he had
his private life and then he died
gracefully
and you know it's incredibly sad that he
had to go but you know he did it in the
right way he did in a way that had
nothing to do with vanity he just he
just fought his battle and he sadly lost
but you know he he that's just what real
masculinity is that's what being a man
is about it's not having to put your
burdens onto the rest of the world on
social media and tell everyone you know
here's what's happening and it's like
very manly amazing thing to do right so
rest in peace norm what a guy there
won't be any comedians like him for i
don't know definitely not any now yeah i
mean yeah ever honestly without without
comedy is gone yeah but uh now we're
gonna move on to our last segment of the
day and this is an interview that we got
to do with one of uh dave ramsey or
ramsey solutions personality by the name
of christy right now she's coming out
with a new book and we will talk about
that during this interview but go ahead
and check it out
on the show today we have christy wright
who is a ramsay solutions personality
and author of a book that's now up for
pre-order take back your time christy
thank you so much for being on our show
today yeah thanks for having me i'm so
excited about this so i wanted to start
off with really you telling us what the
premise of your work is and what the
premise of your your new book that comes
out tomorrow is
yes well here's what's interesting i
have been a certified business coach for
over a decade and so i've spent a lot of
time helping women and men start and
grow side businesses small businesses
i've spoken at our entree leadership
events here at ramsey solutions and so
i've done this for a long time and this
has been my background
and what's so interesting is in 10 years
of doing this the number one question
i'm asked is not a business question
it's this question how do you balance it
all how do you balance everything how do
you balance having a business and having
a full-time job how do you balance
having a family and having career goals
and so the fact that it was such a
common pain point for people at all ages
all stages seasons of life types of work
types of businesses male and female made
me really curious as an entrepreneur and
problem solver
that i wanted to offer hope in this
space and then in my own life having
three kids in five years and feeling the
strain myself i really wanted to dig
into this topic and bring some hope into
a place that is traditionally really
filled with guilt and a lot of shame and
a lot of exhaustion and overwhelm and
and the truth is i think people walk
around every day feeling like they're
failing and they're not and so this is a
book about more than just the calendar
it's about helping you enjoy the life
that the calendar represents so that's
why i love the tagline the guilt-free
guide to life balance i want to tackle
the root issue that we deal with when it
comes to our time
i think something that's important is in
your book you talk about it's not about
productivity it's about doing what
matters and i know this like we were
talking before the show about you know i
have my book coming out you have your
book coming out you got so many media
things and other things to write and do
and it's like you can spend your time
doing just a ton of different things or
you can spend that time in the right way
to make it the most meaningful amount of
stuff so when you're talking about doing
what matters what does that really mean
what is like the advice you would give
people where it's like you need to work
smarter not harder yeah well you make a
really good point because i think that
when we think about balance and when we
think even about time management we
think the solution is to do more well i
just need to be more productive i need
to be more efficient i need to multitask
more i need to wake up earlier stay up
later i need a better app i need a
better morning routine i need to work
harder and smarter and faster in between
we do all that
and we just end up exhausted we're
exhausted
and we don't feel any more balanced and
so it led me down this path of really
researching and exploring what if
balance isn't so much something you do
how you balance it all perfectly with
all these analogies that we have of
walking the tightrope spinning the
plates juggling the balls all the things
what if instead it looks like
peace
even in chaos what if it looks like
being confident in your choices when you
say yes to that thing or no to that
thing what if it looks like just being
happy in your life and being proud of
how you spend your time i think
i think will that when we say we want
balance that's what we're really after
and so what i have come to realize and
really this is this is proven in
research as well
i define life balance differently in
this book life balance is not
doing everything for an equal amount of
time it's about doing the right things
at the right time and when you do the
right things at the right time and you
get to decide what's right for you in
any new season by the way
well then you actually feel that sense
of balance that you've been looking for
all along and so to your point it's not
about productivity and doing more it's
about doing what matters so you need to
decide
what matters to you that's the first
step in my five tactical steps to create
balance in your life decide what matters
even specifically in this season like
what matters to me right now in the
middle of a book season and i'm sure
you're experiencing this as well will is
different than what mattered to me this
summer this summer i took fridays off i
went to the lake i was working out
seeing my friends and my house was sort
of clean
these things are not true right now okay
like i am working all the time i'm not
seeing my friends i'm not working out my
house is not really clean right now but
what matters in this season is different
than what mattered in last season and i
think that if we begin to consider the
season we're in and decide what matters
it gives us a sense of permission to
focus on those things
knowing that they will change again just
because something's not right right now
doesn't mean it'll never be right but it
gives us that permission to focus on
that and when you focus on the right
things at the right time and spend your
time on those things
you shake the guilt for what's not right
right now that you're not doing whether
that's a clean house or time with
friends or whatever
but it also allows you to experience
what is right right now and enjoy it and
be proud of it and i think that's a
pretty big gift in our culture that is
so distracted and so connected
i know exactly what we mean i mean my
beer gut has
expanded with the same thing you know my
priorities with that is not the same but
one thing digging deeper you talked
about about prioritizing uh you know
what the doing the right thing and you
talked about confidence and i find that
most young people nowadays they don't
feel like they have that confidence in
the decisions that they make they feel
very insecure about all of these new
things that are going on like like young
people are very risk averse they say i
don't want to take risks on anything i
want to live very safe lives i don't
want to you know prioritize things that
i know i'm supposed to be doing and
would rather just do what everyone else
is doing what is the advice that you
have for people when they're looking at
their life and trying to prioritize and
do the right thing but they don't feel
like they have the confidence to do so
how do they actually you know get past
that and and start
getting into that right mindset
yeah well that's a great question and
what's interesting is this is a process
it's not something at any age that you
flip a switch and you're confident or
you flip a switch and you know exactly
what you want to do and it's crystal
clear for most people it's a process
but part of becoming a grown-up part of
maturing into adulthood
is finding confidence in the choices
that are right for you now should you
look to your right and your left and be
inspired by best practices or people
that have awesome jobs and awesome
marriages that you want to learn from
for sure
but there's a there's there's a piece of
this process where you have to go okay
i'm going to learn from these principles
and apply them to my life and figure out
what's right for me and and the thread
that i pull through the whole book the
thing that i reiterate every single
chapter
is it's your
life
no one gets to tell you what should be
important to you no one gets to tell you
what you should spend your time on this
is your life how you spend your time
is how you spend your life so this
matters and so i don't tell people in
this book what you should be doing with
your time i ask questions that bring
awareness to help them discover that for
themselves
and then find confidence to act on those
because what's interesting is when you
begin to take action on your priorities
on the choices that you make
that confidence grows i even walk
through several ways to build confidence
in your choices in the book because it's
a muscle if you never exercise that
confidence muscle then it's a little
weak at first like any muscle but the
more you exercise it the more you
practice it the more you strengthen it
the easier it becomes i was actually
just telling
megan my publicist before we went live i
said i'm getting really good at my no
muscle in this season because i keep
having this request from church to do
one thing after another after another
and i had committed to hosting a small
group and there were very clear
boundaries john this is what i'm willing
to commit and nothing else and uh and
they just keep asking i'm like oh we're
not taking any more commitments at this
time thank you like you just have to
practice it but the more you practice it
it really does get easier it's just
gonna take some practice
amazing now my my last question for you
is sort of not really within the scope
of your book but i feel like your your
book can sort of help young women with
this with this question and with this
hardship that we're going through right
now i'm 21 and i find that women in my
generation there's this massive push now
telling them well don't get married
don't build long-term relationships and
certainly don't have kids your career is
far more important that we're than that
we're pushing women into stem fields
we're pushing women into sort of the the
corporate world and young women are then
choosing not to build long-term
relationships and not to have children
what are your thoughts on that and and
that sort of way that our generation is
moving towards
i think that any time you get into
generalizations
stereotypes and a one-size-fits-all
formula for anyone it's dangerous
because i believe that we are all very
unique and our paths are going to look
very unique whether a woman starts a
business or works in a career or stays
home with her kids or doesn't have kids
or volunteers full-time that's her
choice and what's so beautiful is we
live in a time when we do have more
options than ever before and while
that's exciting that can be overwhelming
and it can almost be paralyzing or going
wow i have so many choices the thing
that i would encourage people to do is
actually not look around you for what
everyone else is doing it's reflect like
what makes you come alive
what brings you energy and gives you joy
tap into that and follow those things
and know by the way
that what makes you come alive right now
may change in a year or ten years and
that's okay amala when i was 23 i was
working at a farm i lived on a farm full
time like taking care of goats and many
donkeys that in my dream today okay
dreams change but that was right then
you can change your mind and your plans
and your priorities you don't have to
put yourself in a box
this is what successful women do i want
to help you define your version of
success and chase that and if that's in
the home with kids no kids in a career
in new york at a fortune 500 company i
think every person is unique and you
have permission to do what's right for
you
great amazing well that is chrissy
wright everybody you can order her book
take back your time virtually anywhere
where you can purchase books and that
will be coming out tomorrow christy do
you have anything you want to say to our
audience before we let you go
no thank you so much for having me i
hope this uh encourages them to pursue
what's right for them thanks for having
me
absolutely and that's christy wright so
yeah we had two amazing people whose
names start with chris on the show today
wow actually chris
with christ
on the show today
and uh yeah we're gonna wrap up here we
talked about the met gala we talked
about the passing of norman mcdonald we
had chris farrow on the show and we had
christy wright on the show now make sure
you tune in tomorrow because we are
going to be doing a watch party to watch
our new short documentary miseducated
featuring christopher ruffo and our very
own jill simonian of prageru kids so
make sure you get to see the premiere of
our documentary with will and i and jill
tomorrow now well what do you want to
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