In today’s interview, we sit down with Frederica von Stade, one of the most celebrated mezzo-sopranos of our time, honored with the title of Chevalier, which is France’s highest honor for the arts, twice the winner of Grand Prix du Disque and nominated nine times for a Grammy Award for her extraordinary contributions to music.
“Music has been the greatest gift of my life—it’s given me a language to express what words cannot,” says Frederica, who family and friends have nicknamed Flicka.
Flicka reveals the secrets behind her passion-driven career, unforgettable roles like Cherubino, in Mozart’s Marriage of Figaro, and the spiritual thrill of singing Mahler—“I think I’m in heaven. I might be able to fly.”
From backstage antics with Luciano Pavarotti (“He was helping himself to everybody’s meal”) to her tireless work with the Young Musicians Choral Orchestra, the story of Frederica von Stade is a masterclass in talent, luck, and kindness.
Watch this interview for an intimate look into the life and legacy of an iconic figure in the world of classical music.
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did you have moments when you were down
and then you felt like you can't do it
anymore and how did you come out of it
oh yes um not
many where I I mean I've been down a lot
and very worried about was I doing am I
on the right path because because the
voice is an instrument inside you and it
uses your lungs and your breath and your
you know the muscles the lower muscles
to
support it's an everchanging instrument
it's like having an obo that's a new obo
every day so we dealing with that and
things affect it things fatigue affects
it dryness affects it weather affects
your voice to say nothing of emotion and
sorrow or grief or joy all of the that
are are part of it um so just like life
that's never going to be in perfect sync
never going to be a perfect coordination
you know and most things aren't perfect
and it's that striving that makes us
keep doing it and keep trying and keep
learning and keep keep on progressing so
your voice for an opera singer the voice
is the most important thing so it is
yeah do you worry about losing your
voice and how do you protect it to make
sure oh wonderful question yes you're
always worried about losing it because
it's part of you um there's a wonderful
little story about a colleague of mine
who has been gone for many years his
name is Thomas Stewart and he came out
of a major operation i
mean life-threatening
operation and the first thing he did
when he was in the recovery room is not
think you know am I okay is it did the
operation go well it was
like is the voice still there is my
voice all right that's the connection we
have with our voices so when they're not
functioning properly which they happens
a lot you get colds or you get a cough
or COVID
um you are dealing with that and you you
to keep your voice happy and healthy
there's a lot you have to do you don't
smoke drink as little as possible
um hydrate all the time water warm water
lemon there are all sorts of of
of remedies that all of us have um rest
rest is major because just like the rest
of your body if you're a ballerina you
have to be sure your legs can do what
you're asking them to do and it's the
same with the voice you're asking it to
do flips you know go fast go slow go
sing high sing low get the words across
take a long long phrase that uses up a
lot of breath along the way and you have
to keep going until the very end of it
um plus your the
mental ability
to remember the words that what this is
soft this is loud this is mezoforte this
is there's a lot going on all the time
in the brain you mentioned luck plays a
big role in in someone's career please
please tell us more about that um it's
that same thing that affects every
profession being in the right place at
the right time and very often it's a
totally accidental i've had so many
guardian angels in my career i could
fill a book
um people who have advised me to do go a
certain way who
have guided me through it who have
taught me who have put up with me all of
those things and then I mean for my
example with the Met I got a prize in
the Met
auditions then I which meant I came back
in in three months to compete for the
absolute
finals in that three months there was a
walk out at the Met many people many I
think it was I don't know if it was the
chorus but people
left and so the Met was closed it wasn't
going to open and many of the artists
who had been there for a number of years
were worried about their futures so they
took jobs elsewhere so there were these
openings and there was an opening for
I'm a was a compromario singer singer of
small parts so there was an opening just
when I was coming on scene um that's
luck some would argue that you also make
your luck because if you look at a
pattern of the successful people Yeah
they like you said you work hard you try
you you know you don't give up you you
fall down you get right get right back
up well there is that absolutely but my
main point is that many great voices and
great
talents are not discovered because maybe
they were born
in I don't know Portland Maine instead
of outside of New York City so they
didn't know what was available to them
um many singers don't have huge careers
because maybe they sang one wrong wrong
wrong role they sang a role that was too
big for them there's there's there's so
much that goes into it which is happy
happen stance
um but the the main the thrust of it is
the care that one has received i had one
of the great managers of all time
Matthew Epstein at the beginning of my
career who managed Marilyn Horn and a
lot of great names in singing and he
knew just what I should do i didn't know
he led me to roles that led to other
roles um and that was lucky that I got
together with him instead of another
agent at the time so it is luck and I
mainly think of it in terms of the many
many talents that haven't had the good
fortune that I've had and that's why
you're working now for this wonderful
organization that gives people this
chance they give just the chance to and
even if even if you know a lot of our
graduates from Young Musicians Coral
Orchestra don't become musicians a lot
do but a lot become scientists or
engineers it's just music is such a step
for them to It gives you um positive
feedback it gives you determination it
teaches determination it teaches you
patience it teaches you cooperation what
is an orchestra but the absolute key to
cooperation nothing can be done in an
orchestra without everyone committing to
the same end i have to tell you Steve
that one of my dearest most beloved
friends in the opera world was a gal
named Jeng Sha
and pro in my heart had probably the
most beautiful mezzoprano voice I have
ever heard and I've heard some great
mezzoprano
voices not only did she have this
incredible voice an
incredible
musicianship she
was a spirit that exploded around you
her goodwill her kindness her
humor i've I've never known anyone like
this anyone that knew her absolutely
adored her and her attitude towards she
did make her own luck she was going to
school in Washington DC and not really
progressing the way she wanted to so she
talked her
sister into whose husband was um able to
affect her moving to Philadelphia to go
to the Curtis school because she wanted
to study with a certain teacher um to
say that she was very ill and needed the
care of her sister so she went through
this process to study with the right
teacher and from there her career took
off she knew what she needed she made
that move
but I agree
that being good to other people brings
goodness to you and I had a grandfather
whose name was Skitty
Vonada who was one of the kindest most
generous men I've ever met in my life
and I was like I was kind of like his
dog i followed him everywhere when I
could just right by his side on his day
and everything he did was a gesture
towards helping someone or making
someone's life happier by his visit
um it is so the way to go this sort of
selfserving era that we're in now of
what I want what I can get what I need
to do to get this is not making us happy
by any stretch of the imagination it's
making us sadder and more troubled and
less confident as human beings
kindness is at the root of everything
everything in my book and that's why
it's so much a center of what we do with
YMCO it
is citizen citizenship is
kindness religion is kindness
um even and it's not to be noticed and
it's not to be rewarded
because a lot of people don't get any
rewards yes but the process
just makes you so much happier yes i I
know people like that and indeed there
not many but the fact that there are
still people like that now when like you
said everything it's self serving it's
so amazing and and observing them it's
inspirational because you feel that wow
you know how does he do it you know the
the the person who is the director of
young musicians coral orchestra is such
a man his name is Gichi Taylor
he gave and gave he He was a graduate of
the program then he had a career and
came back to it to serve as an assistant
to Daisy Newman who then ran the program
his management of this program includes
dealing with 65 kids listening to their
practice on iPhones every night and
telling them that they need to clean up
their room because he can see their room
he taking care by himself because he
lost his wife of two babies three and a
half and two
um will help one of his families move
into a new apartment will
secure an instrument for another young
person this
man I mean if I had any sway in the
Catholic Church and I am Catholic he
should be sainted