Chris and Ryan Barnes: One ball, two styles | Neil Stremmel's Bowling Breakdown

Welcome PBA LVC League Bowlers. I'm Neil Strummel, your director of rules and equipment for the PBA. And today I'm joined by Chris and Ryan Barnes. Chris, thank you for being here. Ryan, I appreciate you being here. Congratulations on your exempt status for next year. Very excited about that. Dad, how proud are you about all that? It's super exciting. At least we still have one exempt bowler in the house. So, well, as as a multi PBA champion touring pro, like you will, you'll be able to go pretty much whenever and wherever you want to go. So that's a good situation. I'm still in the events, not officially exempt, but exempt. So it's good. I'm really looking forward to a first season with him out there. And we'll see how it goes. I'd like to I don't want to finish behind him in every event. But on the flip side, I guess if he does, hopefully that means he's bowled well. So go both ways, I guess. Yeah. All right. So thank you for joining me here today. You know, having both of you and your different styles, I wanted to have a look at maybe you guys have the same bowling ball drilled. However, you want to have it drilled for yourself. But same ball show the versatility of that ball and how a different drilling can actually, you know, help you no matter how you throw it, whether it's two handed, one handed, high rev, medium rev. And go from there. Yeah, we both happen to have a sublime focus on our global ball. So it's pretty new. I have a couple of them. He has one of them. I'm happy to talk about the differences between one handed, two handed drilling. We actually bounce ideas off of each other and have kind of learned when things work for him and where I have to move them and vice versa to to really kind of make that work. We're short on our own learning curve, too, with these balls at the very beginning. All right. Yeah, that sounds good. And yeah, so let's let's get warmed up. And we'll take a look and we can talk about what differences we're seeing. Sounds good. All right. I think that'll be great for the league bowlers out there. Thank you. Let's get let's get to it. All right, guys. So we've been getting warmed up and we got we got a couple of balls each have each have one. So we'll throw some shots and maybe Ryan, as as you bowl, Chris, you can you can commentate as if you were on TV, but then you get to do the same when he's he's throwing. So you can commentate the one hander. Yeah, exactly. All right. So, yeah, Ryan, why don't you go ahead and grab your ball? Chris, tell me a little bit about that. This is a five inch pin for him, and it would be considered a tall five inch pin. So five by three and a half. And then in the in the two L.S. systems by four. If you were to convert it to rare SLS, I guess that would be one. It'd be about a one inch pin buffer is also. It's a pretty high, pretty tall and high pin. It's out of the box. It's probably been refreshed since then with with a thousand. Right. Two thousand. Two thousand. Which is a fair. Yeah, you can keep going. Another one. And so I have one mine. I've actually put a little bit of polish on. I have a five by five by two, which is also a pretty tall pin. And you would think, well, you know, his reverberates a hundred higher than mine. He would be the one with shine and I would be the one with more surface. But because his ball speed to reverberate ratio, his speed is also very high in his ability to clear that front part of the lane. He's able to use a little more surface than I am a lot of times. And so I'm just going to try and create length and use that for. Yeah. So so I see that. So to try to say that kind of a different way, you know, you want to match your speed and reverberate. And there's charts and graphs for all that stuff. But basically, you've learned that, hey, my my speed is a little higher than my reverberate combination. And so with a little more surface because of my speed, I still get it down there. And because you still have a high reverberate. Yeah, it still looks good with a little bit of surface. Yeah. Yeah. And then you're that allows you to be a little more polished. And so you're probably, you know, you're matched up better speed to reverberate, but you still play a little further right from there. Yeah. The whole point of equipment is basically to help match what you don't do as well. He's he's more like Tommy in the in the fact that even though his reverberates higher, he has more issues is actually getting his ball to pick up in the mid lane so he can throw it as hard as he wants to that break point. And he would rather use be aggressive and be, you know, comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you just want to be in a situation where you can. He's an athlete who wants to be aggressive on the lanes. My aggressive comes out as I can make the ball pick up, even though my reverberates not as high. So I want balls that push down the lane and then I can make them pick up. Well, so. Gotcha. All right. Let's see. So here's a little shiny. Let's see what that looks like going down. You see, these two balls are not. I mean, that's a pretty tall pin. This is relatively it's a tall pin for me, tall pin for him. So you've seen your dad bowl a little bit. A little bit. Just a couple of times. Nothing weird there. Yeah. Left the same pin on the first shot. The tighter lane three, the LBC. Yep. Yep. So we are bowling on the PBA LBC pattern. It's about, you know, five to one ratio. Close to a house shot, but definitely not a typical house shot. But nothing like you guys bowl out on tour. A little, a little deeper. Glad that didn't happen on TV. Classic eight pin. Nothing new there. Yeah, I get it. But yeah, that that look, I mean, the ball motion, you know, essentially looks the same and you've laid out your balls a little different, but similar. But then you went with different different surfaces to kind of get that that picture that you want to see. You know, a lot of it is how much oil is there in the front to back. So for me to hook it and be in the right zone is most of the tour players these days, I have to throw it slower. My rate's 100 behind. To throw it slower, you have to fight through more friction in the front lane. So I need that polish to get through the front lane first. Then I have to make do the rest. All right. That makes sense. So if we were going to get back to helping our league bowlers out there, basically wherever they are and they're like speed and reverie combination, talk with your pro shop operator like, hey, you're you're high here. You're low here. You need to polish. You need surface. And basically work on that as part of your game plan. Yeah. I mean, one of the biggest difference between one handed and two handed is this is a tall pin for me. This is a low pin for me. Now, two handers, they track so much differently. This is a tall pin for him. That's a low pin for two handers. Yeah, but a low pin for two handers is still above the fingers because you remember that center of the grip. So it's actually essentially the equivalent of being right there. Which is almost what the old Rico that pin in the palm drilling was. So. All right. Yeah. Good, good way to look at it. Different way to look at a good comparison. I hope the league bowlers out there kind of grasp some of that knowledge. If you're one handed or two handed or you're bowling with your buddy and you have that situation, one's one handed and one of you is two handed. This is a way for you guys to work together and understand your equipment, make decisions that all that will help your team out. And I hope that helps you. I hope that helps you out there. And I hope you continue to support our sport. Thank you very much.