Sell The House To Pay Off Debt?

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start budgeting for free today my wife
and I we've been kind of going back and
forth on selling our home to pay off uh
some debt I've been kind of an idiot the
last few years and uh we can all say
that at some point in our Liv thank you
for having the self- awareness yes P
money out when you know to build a pool
and do things we probably didn't need to
do uh and and you know
we I guess the the issue we pay our
bills we eat we we live you know pretty
pretty normal lives but it's gotten
Tighter and Tighter and it feels like
we're not not really moving at all kind
of just spinning our wheels and so
what's your household income that I
could uh about
170 and what how much Consumer Debt do
you have everything but the mortgage uh
about
182 okay yeah you're feeling it what
kind of so you tell us can you break
down that 182 and by the way does that
include the mortgage yes no it doesn't
okay can you break it down for
us so we did a a HELOC for 60 um and
built a pool and actually paid off paid
off some debt with that which we then
kind of racked up again uh another uh
personal loan for about 57 I've got a
car loan that's got 17 on it what was
the personal loan for what did you spend
the 50 is it 57,000 or
5700 57,000 okay what was that for
really stupid uh I I I I outsmart myself
from time to time and I thought okay I'm
going to do this personal loan and we're
going to pay off Deb like we paid off
both of our cars and uh and and used it
what I thought was kind of the right way
but then have sense
just kind of racked up money in other
areas okay so you took on debt to pay
off other debt while changing zero
habits and you were right back to where
you were that's a cautionary tale for
anybody listening we talk about that all
the time so you're teaching a lot of
people thank you Todd for being
transparent what else do you have so the
57,000 personal loan what's
next uh I've got the now I have another
car loan now for
17 uh about 20 grand in credit card debt
and then 28 in and like I did a debt
consolidation kind of thing to get rid
of uh it's kind of same same thing get
rid of credit cards okay transferred to
zero you know 0% like are we done
playing the game you think like are you
you're like all right I'm not going to
move debt around to other debt I want a
way out so what are you thinking about
doing
know well so it was debating selling in
the like my wife is not not on board uh
you wanted to sell the
house possibly sell in our house to pay
off pay off debt but it wouldn't it
wouldn't pay off everything but do you
want to know why I don't like that for
you do you want to know why I don't like
that for you because it's the same thing
you've been doing it's another one of
Todd schemes Todd shortcuts and I think
and don't get me wrong um when people
get a great opportunity maybe they get a
large sum of money they get an
inheritance they get large bonus or they
were going to move anyway and it ends up
clearing their debt I'm happy for them
but you have laid out a very long
pattern of the same behavior and I'm not
getting on to you for it I'm just
telling you what I see based on what you
said and I'm worried because the worst
thing ever Todd would be that you sell
your house even when your wife didn't
want to and you wind up in debt again so
for you yeah yeah walking through the
because I always tell people when you
walk through your baby steps right
George that is the opportunity for you
to change your habits because it's built
in you can't get out of the baby steps
without changing your habits it's
automatic almost yeah and so I as as
painful and as tough as it can be I
would prescribe if I were the person
writing the prescription that you walk
through the baby steps and you do this
the oldfashioned way okay and we've done
that before I mean we we have we have
been relatively debt like I say minus a
car payment or something you know sure
we've paid off credit cards before we've
paid you know but you've never been
completely debt free while you've been
married
no no I mean when we first bought our
house the only thing we had was the
house and a car
loan is your wife on is she on board to
do the baby steps because I think what
you're GNA have to go back to her and
say is all right fine we won't sell the
house but we're gonna have to sacrifice
like
crazy no she she's much uh she's much
more responsible than I am okay I was
going to ask who's the spender like it's
it's me and she doesn't insist on
anything like she doesn't ask for you
know to do any of the things that I I
come up with it's mostly like so she's
been a passive passenger for all of your
schemes yeah she never she never tells
me now not even a disdainful look I
don't I don't think my wife would allow
me to do all this and not like have a
blow up argument yelling at me how has
she been totally cool with all of
this just we I mean we we pay but like
you wouldn't you know looking in we pay
our bills we we the payment on anything
in you know 20 years it's so everything
is comfortable but it's less comforable
and that's what I want to warn you about
Todd going into this um it's George and
I see both sides of this all the time
when people call in and their income is
low and they've got to go out and hustle
and grind to get the money it's almost
easier for them to do what we teach than
a person like you who has a great income
and you're going to have to downsize and
kind of what you just said before like
the debt didn't really show show we were
able to cover it up and make the
payments on time da d d d when you get
out of debt I'm just letting you know
right now it shows and it's going to
show and that that same part of you that
kind of liked being able to show off
with the money and the pool and doing
all those things I'm I'm talking to you
because I recognize myself in what
you're saying um that same part of you
that liked showing that that's going to
be the part that hurts the most when you
show the opposite which is we're
downsizing our cars and we're downsizing
and we're selling things and we don't go
out as much and I don't buy the things
that I used to buy your family's going
to see it your friends are going to see
it you're going to feel it and that's
just part of the process don't let that
deter you that's how you know it's
working that's how you know the
medicine's getting in that's right so
let's get to work I mean 60k a year
thrown at this debt 3 years it's all
gone making 170 how do we find that
margin we need to make more we need to
spend less let's get to it create your
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