How Many SURPRISES Are There In This LONGINES Antique Pocket Watch?

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Today on the bench I have a beautiful Longines pocket watch from 1924 in a beautifully designed
full hunter case. The hallmark on the cover indicates the case material is 90%
silver. As was common with Longines pocket watches of this era, it boasts the awards,
or Grand Prix, won by this pioneering company at various exhibitions and fairs.
Longines still exists today and is considered one of the top Swiss luxury watchmakers and has
been part of the Swiss Swatch Group since 1983. The caliber of this movement is the 18.50,
which measures about 40mm across and contains 15 jewels between the train, balance, and palette.
According to Dr. Ramm's archives, this model of 15 jewel movement had been produced by Longines
beginning as early as 1889. Longines also produced an open-faced configuration known as the 18.49
as well, along with several budget-friendly versions with only 7 jewels.
It runs, if you even want to call it that. The timegrapher is a mess and it doesn't sound great
at all. One doesn't need a timegrapher to hear all kinds of rubbing and creaks.
There are two things needing to be done to release the movement from the case.
First, there's a single case screw securing the movement. Second, the watch has a female stem
held into the neck with a set screw that will need to be removed before the crown and stem can
be pulled out. As with most pocket watches, the movement can now be removed through the front of
the case. The use of dial foot screws along the edge of the movement was a common choice for this
era. This may have been borrowed from the American pocket watch designs. Another option you typically
see on Swiss watches is the use of eccentric screws in the main plate itself. The hour and
minute wheels are now removed. With the access to the click, I can let down the remaining power
of the main spring. The balance is now removed. The pallet cock and pallet fork are now removed.
Some variations of the 18.50 used pallet forks with metallic pins, so this is one of the higher
quality configurations produced. The escape wheel cock is now removed. Contributing to the poor
performance of this movement would be the old congealed oil, which also seemed to do a great
job of trapping various pieces of hair, dust, and lint over the years. The train wheel cock is
removed, also revealing a similar situation on the surfaces of its jewels. Not only is that oil
sticky, some of it is hardened and it will take a great deal of effort to remove it later on.
The barrel bridge is uninstalled. I like how Longines added a convenient way to let down the
main spring without needing to uninstall the dial. The third wheel, fourth wheel, and escape wheel are
lifted away. The stem and main spring barrel are removed. The screw I pointed out just earlier is
actually a cam that presses against the click. I'm now removing the ratchet wheel from the main spring
arbor. Okay, that's... that's just gross. Today's special is deep fried main spring. Ignoring that,
something else doesn't quite look right. Yeah, it's all bent and kinked, but wait a minute.
Check this out. Someone literally riveted a new inner coil onto the spring. Quite a crude, but
if I'm being honest, skillful repair that still apparently stood the test of time. But what do
you all think? Is it a hack or the work of a resourceful craftsman? Common with Swiss movements,
the center wheel arbor is actually hollow and there is an axle that runs through it on which
the cannon pinion is mounted. Unlike most American movements, the motion works friction is obtained
between the pin and the walls of the hollow center wheel arbor, so the pin needs to be tapped
out from the dial side. This is an amplitude killer right here. Notice the deep scoring on this pivot.
I'll try to burnish it out as much as possible. I'm now removing the pin from the hollow center
wheel arbor. Since the diameter of the pivot is one millimeter, it's too large for my benchtop
jacket lathe. Fortunately, my Bolle lathe came with some useful attachments, including a drum
for larger sized pivots. As with the jacket tool, the wheel is placed within a female center
mounted in the headstock, and a small pin protruding from that attachment leans against
the arm of the wheel so that it can turn. The burnisher works the pivot that rests in the
appropriately sized slot of the drum mounted in the tailstock attachment. While this is an
improvement over how it was, I would have needed to do a lot more to smooth over the deeper scoring.
Doing so, however, would have also removed a lot more material, and any gains I would have
achieved with the smoothness would have been negated by the excessive side shake caused by
the smaller size of the pivot. I'm now removing the spring that controls the return of the keyless
works rocker arm. The setting lever is now removed. The keyless works rocker arm is removed
with the associated crown wheel and intermediate winding and setting gears. The beefiest click
spring I've ever seen is now uninstalled. Now the click is removed. I'm now removing the lower
balance cap jewel plate for cleaning. As with any movement, but especially this one, the pre-cleaning
ritual includes using pegwood to scrub old oil off the surfaces of the jewels. The L&R cleaner used
in the machine does a fine job at cleaning the parts, but for a movement that hasn't seen a
service in what seems like 50 or more years, a little manual effort is required. Sometimes I'll
dip the tip of pegwood in naphtha to really get after the jewels with the most caked on oils.
The rest of the movement grime is addressed with naphtha and a nylon scratch brush.
This is interesting. The hairspring stud is normally held into the cock using a set screw,
which appears to be missing. It would otherwise have fallen out if it weren't for all this
glue, which may or may not be the work of the same, shall we say, resourceful watch servicer
that riveted the mainspring together. This is no problem. I should be able to clean this
up and find a suitable replacement for that missing screw. The end stone is now removed
for cleaning. I typically proceed with reassembly in reverse order. The balance
cock is reassembled with the cap jewel and regulator arm. As you can see, I did end up
finding a replacement for that stud screw. The Bergeon 1A automatic oiler is used to deposit
the precise amount of Mobius 9010 through the hole onto the end stone. Consistency is important.
I want the same amount of oil on both upper and lower jewels to help reduce any positional
inaccuracies. The balance wheel is reinstalled. The screw secures the hairspring stud and then
I close the regulator guard over the hairspring. The lower balance end stone setting is reinstalled.
I use Mobius D5 on the higher friction surfaces, such as the post around which the click will
rotate. The click spring is now reinstalled. D5 lightly lubricates the sliding surfaces of
the keyless works, which is responsible for the winding and setting of the movement.
The rocker arm is reinstalled over the crown wheel and intermediate gears.
The setting lever is reinstalled. The mode return spring is now installed.
The same amount of 9010 is deposited onto the lower balance jewel. It's good practice to fit
the balance early in assembly to check for any issues. I'm glad I did this time. Do you hear it?
No, it's not Santa's sleigh. That's the sound of the hairspring making all kinds of noises.
This is probably the sounds being heard at the start and why the timegrapher reading looked
like a snowstorm. Incrementally testing the subsystems allows me to find these kinds of
issues earlier in isolation and helps eliminate the endless frustration of troubleshooting a
fully assembled movement that's not running correctly. Suspecting the hairspring is deformed,
it is first removed from the balance staff and installed by itself on the balance cock.
Three things. First, the hairspring is off center as the collet isn't directly over the jewel.
Second, the penultimate curve is leaning against the regulator pin. Finally, it's out of flat,
which is probably what was causing all the noise because out of flat hairsprings can rub against
the parts above and below it when it breathes. So hairspring manipulation is a challenging process
that requires a lot of focus and I was not really concerned with filming this step.
Others have published great videos dedicated to this type of repair if you want to learn more.
But the general approach I took is as follows. First, return the hairspring to flat. Next, work
out any deformations from the innermost coils working outwards. Finally, recheck the terminal
curve in various regulator positions to ensure the collet remains centered over the jewel.
That looks and sounds much better. However, initially I did not notice yet another root
cause of that issue that I'll also need to address. Check out that wobble. This is perplexing
because the wheel itself doesn't look bent. I'll get it mounted in the truing tool for further
inspection. The tool has a little arm that can be used as a visual aid to help determine how
out of flat a wheel is. Notice how the gap shrinks and grows. In reality, this wheel isn't bent at
all. Rather, the rivet against the staff has come loose and I'll use my staking set to sure it up.
It's likely someone had replaced the staff but failed to rivet it correctly.
This is a simple fix. The staff looked fine otherwise and now with the wheel secure I can
double check its flatness. And now I'm returning the roller table to the bottom of the staff.
Whenever modifying the position of anything on the balance, it's good practice to recheck its poise
and make any tweaks needed to bring it back. I don't want any large oscillations like this.
Basically, I want to adjust the weight so that it sort of coasts to a stop with minimal movement
at the end. This helps with positional accuracy. I'm using Mobius D5 to lightly lubricate the bottom
of the mainspring barrel. This movement will receive a fresh white alloy mainspring. Just a
little tip, these mainspring rings have a side that is colored which should face up when
transferring the spring into the barrel. If it goes in backwards, no big deal though. You would
just need to remove it and wind it back in the correct way. More D5 is applied to the spring
and the hole where the arbor will turn. The mainspring barrel arbor is now installed. A touch
of D5 lubricates the upper portion of the arbor before the lid is snapped onto the top of the
barrel. D5 lubricates the hole in the lower plate where the mainspring barrel arbor will turn.
Another higher friction surface. I'll use a little D5 where the let down cam screw will turn.
The stem is now placed onto the main plate. Beginning with the train of wheels, the escape
wheel, fourth wheel, and third wheel are lowered onto the plate, ensuring their pivots find the
The center wheel pin receives a small amount of Mobius D5 before it is inserted through the hollow
arbor. I ensure there's a reasonable amount of resistance. Enough friction so that the center
wheel can turn the pin with the cannon pinion attached when the watch is running, but not too
much where setting the time actually strains the train of wheels. The center wheel is now lowered
into place. The barrel bridge is now installed. The train wheel cock is now installed. With the
I manipulate the wheels until the upper pivots are seated in their respective jewel holes.
The escape wheel cock is now installed. Again, light pressure and gently manipulating the wheel
helps the pivot find its hole. D5 lubricates where the upper barrel arbor turns in the barrel bridge.
Mobius 9010 is used to lubricate all the train wheel pivots. I'm now using Mobius 941 to oil
the faces of the pallet stones. The pallet fork is now installed, with the pallet cock securing
it in place. With the train of wheels and escapement pulley installed, I can go ahead
and apply some power to the movement. And now, the moment of truth. I'm so laser focused on
seating the pivots correctly that I didn't immediately see the hairspring sitting on top
of the center wheel. Much better. So right out of the gate. She's running fast, but consistent.
Beat error will need to be addressed as well by adjusting the hairspring collet.
That's a little better. Positionally, there's variations here, but considering the scoring on
the pivots, the movement is running quite well. The cannon pinion is reinstalled with the help
of the staking set so that the pin can be braced from the other side of the movement.
A bit of D5 lubricates the surfaces where the hour wheel and minute wheel turn against.
And now the dial washer can be placed over the hour wheel before installing the dial.
The set screws along the rim of the movement plate secure the feet.
The second's hand is now installed. I was able to source a replacement set
of hour and minute hands for the 18.50 online. L'Angin, founded in 1832 by Auguste Agassiz
as Régal-Jeune-Annecy, produced innovative watches most notably from the late 1860s,
when Agassiz brought in his nephew, Ernest Francillon, who helped manage the growth.
Ernest eventually assumed ownership over the company and built a factory in a location known
as L'Angin, which eventually became the new name of the company. The first major innovation under
his leadership was the 20A movement, featuring a pendant winding and setting mechanism,
a huge improvement over the typical key wind and key set movements that were prevalent during that
time. Paying close attention to the US watchmaking companies, Francillon quickly realized that the
Swiss watchmaking industry needed to change to keep up with the Americans. His findings helped
revolutionize the entire production process and put L'Angin at the forefront of the Swiss
watchmaking industry. The original site of the factory he opened in 1867 still operates to this
very day. This was truly a beautiful movement and my first L'Angin pocket watch I had the pleasure
of filming. So I hope you all learned something from this video today and if not, I hope you at
least found it enjoyable. Thanks for fixing watches with me today, and I'll see you in the next one!
