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China News According to a comprehensive report from the mainland media, the case of land acquisition in Suzhou, which has recently been exposed to the media, has now appeared with two completely different review reports from the original defendant, which has caused the residents of the residential area to further worry and panic due to the situation of having to repair the land alone or facing no one to pay the bill. It is reported that the two reports came from different authorities in China. Why is the review conclusion opposite to the same piece of land? Let's take a look at an interview with Dr. Wang Weiluo, a well-known environmental ecology expert living in Germany. Hello, Dr. Wang. According to the mainland media, the case of land acquisition in Suzhou, which has recently been exposed to the media, has now appeared with two completely different review reports from the original defendant, which has now appeared with two completely different review reports from the original defendant, What do you think? This used to be a Suzhou steel mill. Suzhou Steel Mill is a relatively small steel mill. It was founded in 1957, when China's Great Leap Forward was building steel. It is also a factory with no resources at all. The layout of Suzhou Steel Mill is relatively simple. It is a rectangular piece of land. It is considered to be north-south. The northern part is where the steel mill produces steel and the southern part is where the chain mill produces it. The southern part is the dormitory. This is like the layout of China at that time. These factories were built by the workers themselves. China's economy began to decline from the so-called reform and opening up in 1989. China's economy began to decline from the so-called reform and opening up in 1989. At that time, China thought of a way to privatize these state-owned factories. The workers were laid off. The factories were either merged with foreign capital or contracted by people in their own companies. In 1994, the Suzhou Steel Mill was established as a subsidiary company. It was also known as a large group. At that time, there were several so-called high-tech companies in China. There were three big giants. The first was Beida Fangzheng. The second was Qinghua Ziguang. The third was Lianxiang. At that time, Beida Fangzheng was expanding. He bought Suzhou Steel Mill at a very low price. He set up a set of roads for the Suzhou Steel Mill to be built later. This also reflected the serious pollution of heavy industry by China's reform and opening up at that time. That is to say, abandoning the old industrial sites and moving out to a slightly farther place. Or choose another agricultural site to build a new factory. The Suzhou Steel Mill gave up its original old factory area. On the farmland across the river, a new Suzhou Steel Mill site was redeveloped. At the same time, it introduced a new set of steel-making equipment from Germany. The level of steel-making is about 1 million tons to 1.2 million tons a year. It's about the same size as it used to be. It's just that the product has been upgraded. It's special steel now. But the Suzhou Steel Mill has always been in a state of loss. Just like many steel mills in China. Because China has no advantage in steel-making. Its resources are all bought from outside. What is the only advantage? Because the Chinese government does not require them to pay the environmental pollution management fees. Abandoning these old industrial sites, transforming them into residential sites, and then moving the polluted industry out and rebuilding it. This is the development model at the time. The middleman at the time was not only the Beidasangzhen Group, but also the joint role of Suzhou Municipal Committee. Suzhou City first took over this land. The previous heavy industry was transformed into a general industrial site or a commercial site. The southern part is its original dormitory area. It was still allowed to build some residential sites. This was done by the Suzhou City Land and Geospatial Informatix Bureau at the time. After they completed this procedure, they returned this land to the Beidasangzhen Group, which is the so-called Suzhou Steel Group. After the Suzhou Steel Group took back this land, it began to re-develop the land and land planning. So it set up a Suzhou Steel Co., Ltd. to engage in land development. It was probably around 2004. The Beidasangzhen Group, because the people above were too greedy, including the president of the Beidasangzhen Group, suffered a loss in finance, so it sold the entire land to Ping'an Insurance. Now behind the Suzhou Steel Group stands Ping'an Insurance. Maybe everyone knows that Ping'an Insurance is the background of Wen Jiabao's family. So Ping'an Insurance is a very powerful state-owned company. In 2014, the account book of the Suzhou Steel Group's offshore company suffered a great loss. The only property on hand is this land. The offshore company began to plan to turn this land into 17 pieces. Everyone sees different colors on different drawings. It's green. This is the future. So when this plan was finished, in 2014 to 2015, the offshore company entrusted the Suzhou Environmental Planning Council and another company in Suzhou to assess the so-called land. It is reported that the original defendant's point of view is actually two contradictory review reports. What is the pollution situation on this land? Why is there a huge difference in the review conclusions of different authorities? What do you think? We now call it a land assessment report. In fact, there are two. Because it was done first. The first part was done in the residential area, which is the non-production area. Then we did a report on the production area. Regarding this report, the descriptions on both sides are different. But none of the reports detailed the entire assessment report. These data and specific content are not reported. Who is responsible? Who signed it? In 2015 and 2016, through the listing auction, everyone knows that there were more than 800 million in total. In fact, at that time, a land value assessment was also done. There are only 130 million in total. The Lujiazui Group did not actually buy this land, but bought 95% of the equity of Lujiazui. This land, with the transfer of equity, went to the Lujiazui Group. The Lujiazui Group has been responsible for the development of Lujiazui Company or the people who used to plan and develop land. It's just that their organization changed. According to the plan at the time, they thought that they could develop a total of more than 1 million square meters of architectural area. According to what they thought at the time, if they sold 20,000 square meters, this land could sell at least 300 million. In the entire process of buying and selling, in 2019, it was up to 35,000 square meters. That means it can sell for 50 billion. In 2014, the valuation of this land was only 130 million. China's real estate is so noisy. The Suzhou Steel Factory we mentioned earlier is also the earliest developed area. The area of ​​14456. Now, relatively speaking, whether it is the first investigation or the second investigation, when the land is evaluated, it is thought to be pollution-free. But the Shuguan Group said that Lujiazui's Lujiazui Company did not follow their previous design and did not follow their previous design to build a wall under the underground water to prevent it from flowing and caused the spread of pollution. We can also speculate that these lands were also polluted. In fact, if you think about it carefully, the Shuguan Group said that Lujiazui did it wrong. In fact, its people were former Shugang Group and the people of Lujiazui's Lujiazui Company. These people are still doing this there. So they know the pollution situation very well. They also grasped the two reports at the time. The first is the soil evaluation report. The second is the soil and underground water evaluation report. In 2019, the State Land Administration of Gaoxing District, Suzhou changed the nature of the land use from industrial land to school land. Then, on this land, they began to build schools. The Lujiazui Group introduced the Leiding School in the UK to build a secondary school. Because they think that a good foreign school should be introduced here. It is very useful for improving the value of housing on this land. By 2021, the Leiding School will be completed and put into use. There are three different statements at this time. That is to say, why did the Leiding School re-evaluate the soil? The first statement is that the Leiding School's headquarters in the UK knew that this land used to be steel. So they insisted on being more careful. Such a mentality requires another sudden inspection to ensure that this land is not polluted. The second statement is that the parents of these children who entered Leiding School proposed it. The parents of these children who can afford to go to private schools from abroad are above the middle class in China. So they pay more attention to the environmental protection issue. They pay more attention to the health of the children. The third statement is that the Gaoxing District of Suzhou asked the Leiding School to re-do it. As you know, the Gaoxing District of Suzhou agreed to the land change in 2019. In 2021, Suzhou withdrew its land change. It asked for a land survey to change the land used in the Gaoxing District of Suzhou. It also asked for the land to be changed from the school and re-changed to the Gaoxing District of Suzhou. In 2020, the government of Suzhou found that it had made a mistake in the plan, so it asked for a change. But the school has been built, so all the cost generated by this must be compensated by the city government. The city government made a mistake in our plan. In the same way, the Gaoxing District of Suzhou has no right to change. That is to say, if it changes, it must report to the Leiding School to do a land survey again. As a result, this land is polluted. Now, the environmental pollution assessment report is not a very serious problem. It can be solved by changing it a little bit. The pollution of land is relatively less. The latter one is more serious. 17 pieces of land have 14 pieces of pollution. One of them is very polluted. If we simplify it all to the simplest, according to the report of 2015 in 2014, this piece of land is OK. It can be built. According to the report of 2022, this is not OK. It can't be built. The same piece of land. Why does the quality evaluation have a completely different result? According to the report, the land assessment report of 2014 based on this standard is called the China Exhibition Center Land, Land, Environment, Management Evaluation Standards. It was formulated in 2007. In fact, it is a kind of trial. In the evaluation report of 2022, the standard used was formulated in 2018. The standards for building land, land pollution, risk management are different according to the two evaluation reports. So there are two different results. One is OK. One is not OK. This kind of explanation should be acceptable. In 2007, people were stupid at that time. The standards for building land, land pollution, risk management, and green water were not implemented yet. They didn't pay attention to the environment. In 2018, the standards for building land, land pollution, and risk management were implemented. In 2018, the standards for building land, land pollution, and green water were implemented. Of course, the results may not be the same. But the standards for building land, land pollution, and green water in 2007 are much more strict than in 2018. In other words, we drew a circle in advance. In the end, we suddenly found that it was not the case. In 2018, the standards became loose. They didn't become strict. They became loose. Let's take one standard as an example. This time, we discussed the most self-inflicted diseases. According to the results of the land survey in 2022, the self-inflicted diseases exceeded the standard by more than 50 times. The problem is very serious. In the standard for 2007, it stipulates that the A-level disease is 0.3 mg per kilogram. The B-level disease is 0.66 mg per kilogram. If the school residential area must meet the A-level standard, it must not exceed 0.3 mg per kilogram. After all, it can be used as a public research institution. The use of land does not exceed 0.66 mg per kilogram. This is the standard for 2007, which is the evaluation standard used in 2014 and 2015. The 2018 standard is not divided like this. It is divided into one-type land and two-type land. One-type land is quite similar to the A-type land. Two-type land is quite similar to the B-type land. It gives two values for each type of land. The first one is the selection value. The other one is the control value. The selection value of one-type land is 0.55. Its control value is 5.55. The selection value of two-type land is 1.5. The control value is 15. Let me explain a little bit here. What is the difference between the selection value and the control value? The lower the selection value, the safer it is. The control value does not allow you to exceed this. Let's compare. One-type land used to be 0.3. Now it is 0.5. Two-type land used to be 0.66. Now it is 1.5. If we compare with the control value, one-type land used to be 0.3. Now it is 5.5. Two-type land increased from 0.66 to 15. Its standard has relaxed a lot. According to the current 2018 standard, the ratio is more than 50 times the standard. The standard of more than 2007 is several hundred times to more than 1,000 times. Let's compare this ratio with the German standard. In the German Land Protection Act, there is also a regulation for this ratio. It is also two. But it is for the soil itself. The German standard says so. In soil with an organic content of less than or equal to 4%, the prevention value of this ratio is 0.3 mg per kg. In soil with an organic content of more than 4%, but less than 9%, its prevention value is 0.5 mg per kg. So the soil with more than this value is problematic. It needs to be processed. It is similar to the standard of China in 2007. Comparison, the German standard is 0.3. The Chinese standard is 0.33. The German standard is 0.5. The Chinese standard is 0.66. In 2018, it relaxed a lot. Why after 2004, a large number of industrial sites in China, especially in the city of Sanhuan, Sichuan, which was the suburb of the city at that time, have been transformed into commercial and residential sites? Many of them have not been processed or simply processed. You just mentioned that the standard used in the first report is stricter than the second report. But why is the result of the first report that pollution is not serious? What do you think about this? He just made a mistake. He did it all for the Green Party of Su Gang. So he dare not take out the report. The Chinese media explained that two reports used two different standards. It just reflects the so-called environment in China. Behind such a news that keeps getting better, it is not the environment that is getting better, but the standard is decreasing. In other words, the assessment report of China is entirely for political purposes. He dare not publish all the data. So the person in charge dare not sign his own name on this report. If we continue to investigate further, these two reports were completed from January to March 2014. One was completed between October 2014 and December 2015. The first time, a total of 35 soil sampling points were set up. The second time, 67 soil sampling points were used. A total of 102 sampling points. This land has 1,000 acres. That is to say, only 1,000 acres of land was used. In the environmental assessment, what is the basis of your sampling? Where is the sampling point? Then you use an average number to express these 102 sampling points. That is pollution. What is the purpose of environmental assessment? Many results are connected to the purpose. If you say you are looking for soil with problems, you are a method of sampling. If you say this soil is good, you are another method of sampling. How many percent of this soil you earn? You have to write it clearly in this report. You just tell me how much the content of this sample is. 100 milliliters per kilogram. 200 milliliters is 200 milliliters. You just tell me this number. You don't have to worry about whether it is 50 times or 100 times. That is, the people who do these jobs in China can close their eyes and ignore the facts. He must have found this very serious problem, but he didn't say it. The current standards in China have been lowered. He is all over the place. The standards of China's groundwater are more relaxed than before. The standards of China's saltwater are also relaxed. What is the truth? The environment is getting worse and worse. That is to say, you dare not publish all the information to everyone. If we take a closer look, these 17 pieces of land were drawn in 2014. 17 pieces of land and the 17 pieces of land drawn in 2022 have different boundaries. At that time, this thing and now this thing are not comparable. They started playing violence at that time. There are some purposes that he doesn't want to tell you. Two reports from the land assessment of Suzhou showed us two standards. It's not like what people think. As the times progress, the requirements for the environment in China are increasingly strict. This is a fact. But we see that the Chinese government is playing a trick here. Its requirements for the environment are getting lower and lower. The relationship between China's environmental pollution and China's high incidence of cancer. Water pollution, soil pollution, and air pollution cause the greatest harm to Chinese people. People's health is damaged. We see all the reports about Suzhou and Shugang. Which word has the highest frequency of cancer? It's a natural weapon. It's 50 times higher.