The Nissan Armada is OLD! But Does that Matter? We Test a Midnight Edition to Find Out

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Hey folks and welcome to the Truck King YouTube channel. In the landscape of full-size SUVs,
this Nissan Armada is really starting to feel like a bit of a dinosaur. But is that a bad thing? Well
that's exactly what we're going to find out in this video. We'll take this thing for a drive,
we'll talk about the Midnight Edition, and then we'll compare it to the other big SUVs and decide
is it worth it? The only engine you can get under the hood of an Armada is a 5.6 liter V8. Now this
thing makes 400 horsepower, 413 pound-feet of torque, and that is sent through a seven-speed
automatic. And I should mention that those numbers are with premium fuel. So I mentioned off the top
two, this Armada you're looking at is the Midnight Edition. Pretty self-explanatory, it's blacked out.
But Nissan does it different. Rather than sort of blacking out all the accents, it gives you all the
black main bits and then you get the chrome and the sort of white Nissan badge. I think it looks
okay. I'm not in love with the styling, but that's just me personally. Of course I want to hear from
you. So go in the comments and let me know what you think of just the look of this Armada Midnight
Edition. Now we're at the back of the Armada, so let's start by talking about towing. This thing
can pull up to 8,500 pounds, and here in Canada that hitch is standard, along with a standard
integrated trailer brake controller. Those are nice features. The payload on the model you're
looking at right here is 1,477 pounds. Pretty decent numbers for a full-size SUV, so you can
pull a pretty nice big trailer. Now let's take a look inside the back end. I do have to point out
the glass here does not open, unlike a lot of its competitors. Now first of all, yes we're doing a
little bit of hauling today. Dad actually got himself a new little Nissan outboard motor.
We thought it was totally appropriate to show off the space back here. This is a vehicle where
you're really choosing whether you're using the third row or you're hauling cargo, because behind
this third row there's not a ton of space. But then of course if you don't have anyone back there,
go ahead and fold that down. Now the numbers on the third row, you're only getting 28.4 inches
of legroom. In the second row you're getting 41 inches of legroom, which is pretty good. So the
third row is quite small, and like I just mentioned you're gonna have to choose whether you want to
haul people or stuff. It'll do a little bit of both, but you do have to kind of make the choice.
And now it's time for another episode of, is Steve gonna fit back there? I'm not gonna subject
myself to the third row. This is only 28.4 inches of rear legroom back there. If I'm under 30 inches
of legroom, I'm basically not gonna fit. So the third row in this Armada, definitely only for kids
or people you don't like. But I will try out the second row. This is 41 inches of legroom, and I
have tons of knee room, no problem at all. A decent amount of headroom. This seat is fixed, so it
doesn't move forward or back. Although if you pull the handle down here, I can actually recline, which
is pretty nice. And then look at this monstrous center console. Half my arm fits in there, a couple
cup holders right there, and then down below there's also another huge storage. So basically it's all
about storage, but for the second row passengers you can get a lot of stuff in here. Down in front
of me I also get controls for the HVAC, which is pretty nice as well. So yeah, full-size adults in
the second row of the Armada, absolutely are gonna be comfortable. Alright, now here we are driving
in this Armada. Now like I kind of mentioned off the top, the Armada is feeling a little bit old
in its sort of recipe. This is body on frame, it's a big V8, there's no other options available
either. There's no small displacement turbos, there's no diesel, there's no hybrid. These are
things that all the other brands are kind of doing. Nissan's not doing any of that, at least not right
now. In this SUV you get one configuration, and like I said, it feels pretty old school. So from
behind the wheel, dad, what do you feel when you're driving this Armada? This thing is big, it's
trucky, I mean you feel that you're on a full frame. You know, you're sitting up high, the
steering is heavy, and just this truck lumbers. Lumber's a great word. It's probably the best word
to use with this thing, it just lumbers along. Now for me, what I'm going to say is it's
familiar, because honestly this is exactly the kind of stuff that I've been driving for the last
20-30 years. It's really only been the last five years or so that a lot of the other larger SUVs
have really kind of vaulted forward in their technology. How they drive, how they ride, the
kind of suspensions that they're using. This thing is, you know, we've been calling it a dinosaur,
and it is that. You know, which leads me into the next bit, which is, so what? Is that necessarily
a problem? Looking at it from Nissan's point of view, they have limited development dollars,
and so when they're putting something together, they're literally going to the shelf and saying,
what have we got? Yeah, that's exactly what they did here. So when the new Titan came out in 17,
rather than re-engineer the Armada on the Nissan Titan frame, the Titan-based Armada went away,
and they shipped in what's called the Nissan Patrol. This was their full-size SUV that's
sold around the world. It is built in Japan, and that's what you're looking at right here. This is
just a re-skinned Patrol, and yes, it's still built in Japan, even though the engine is built
down in Tennessee. So like that said, they definitely looked at it and said, we're going
to do this in the most economical way possible. Now since then, they have updated the interior,
so we have the new big touchscreen. It looks pretty nice in here, pretty modern. I don't think
the interior makes it feel old per se, but with that information in mind, yeah, this is an old
platform. It's old technology, and to be quite frank, that is happening kind of everywhere at
Nissan right now. Kind of happened with the Frontier, happened with the new Z sports car.
Nissan is doing their best with what they have, but not throwing a whole bunch of development
dollars anywhere but EVs. That's the only thing I've seen them doing recently that's kind of new
and exciting, is coming out with some EVs. Yeah, and you know, and to that point, they're smart
enough to realize that, you know, they threw the 5.6 V8 in here, because that's what we want in
North America. You're getting a motor that you could say is, you know, got a decent reputation,
but it's a pig on gas. Yeah. It is. So, once again, you want to go old school, you're gonna
need a bank loan, because this thing definitely sucks up fuel. Yeah, so in a lot of ways,
we can see how it's lacking a little bit next to the competition, and actually, Dad, it's big,
but frankly, the Chevy Tahoe has more legroom in the second and third row. So, where the other
SUVs grew for this generation, this one's actually not quite as big. So, lots of kind of negatives,
but there is one sort of positive, and it's the price. Now, here in Canada, you can only get two
different trims of Armada. You can get the SL or the Platinum, and even the SL, even though it's
the base model, it comes with all kinds of things built into it. So, the base price of an Armada in
Canada is $70,000, and then if you go up to Platinum, it's about $76,000. For the model
you're looking at right here, this Midnight Edition, $74,000. So, that's not inexpensive,
but here's the part of the story that's important. A fully loaded Chevy Tahoe High Country,
easily $85,000, and with a couple options, it's $90,000. So, the Nissan at the top luxury kind
end of things is a decent bargain sitting next to the domestic brands. So, that's one thing I think
Nissan is doing correctly, is they're saying, you know what, maybe we're not keeping up in all these
other areas, but hey, if you come to us, you're going to get quite a few luxury features, and
you're not going to pay quite as much either. So, that's the one thing I will say the Armada has
going for it. It's a little bit less expensive. Well, that and the fact that, you know what,
it does quite a few things well. You've got decent towing capacity, you've got the integrated
trailer brake controller, this wheelbase, and with this weight, it's going to do a good job
whether you're hauling a boat or a travel trailer. So, and the, you know, and the engine is suited to
it. Yeah, you know what, it's the same strategy they played with Frontier for so many years,
which they said, yeah, it isn't the newest, it isn't the shiniest, but it is the cheapest
small pickup out there. There is another system here on the Armada that you're probably only
going to like or really dislike, and that is the fact that it is full-time four-wheel drive. Now,
you get an auto setting, you can put it in four high, which is going to lock, you know, even power
to all four wheels, and then you do have four low, so there is a low speed transfer case, which is
cool, but yeah, full-time four-wheel, and that's mostly just going to result in worse fuel economy.
We're running 14.7 liters per 100 kilometers right now, and I definitely think that's an
average you could expect. So, again, it's going to feel sure-footed, especially in the winter and
in some sloppy weather. There is a snow mode here too, that's the one drive mode you do get,
besides tow haul, but yeah, I don't know, Dad, I would prefer it if I could choose two-wheel drive.
Yeah, and, you know, and to your point, they're giving you a snow mode, which is probably just
deactivating your acceleration to modulate it so that you don't get the wheel slippage,
whereas everybody else is giving you four or five different modes now. So, once again,
you know, they don't have that money, they're just going with what they got. Yeah. Well, folks,
we're coming to the end of this one. So, what's the verdict on this Armada? Well, if you want the
latest flashy tech in your big SUV, you probably don't want to go to Nissan, but if you're okay
with tried, true, and reliable, this Armada could be for you. So, like I said, that's it. Now,
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