orlando miner: dave ramsey's baby steps explained! build your emergency fund & pay off debt

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Oct 7, 2026
Hello everyone.
Welcome to my channel.
My name is Orlando and today we're going to be talking about Dave
Ramsey's seven baby steps.
What is Dave Ramsey seven baby steps?
Well, Dave Ramsey has a book that is called total money makeover.
I'm going to go ahead and post the picture here, but also put the
link if you're interested in the book below and what he's doing
is describing how you can take seven baby steps to get you to
basically a better financial place.
I don't want to necessarily say it will get you to financial
freedom, but it will definitely put you in a better financial
position.
And that is the reason why it's called seven baby steps.
You're taking baby steps to get to that point to where you can
have that financial freedom.
If you do things like invest that we like we talk on this
channel, so let's just jump right into it.
Baby step number one is to invest a thousand dollars into an
emergency fund now you want to do this as fast as possible as
Dave says in his book and the reason why you want to do this
is is because you don't want anything to basically put you in
the hole right things happen.
You need your car fixed, you know something happens, you know
medical expenses.
There's a bunch of things that happen that could basically
take you and dig you deeper into a hole when it comes to debt.
So you want to make sure that you at least have that thousand
dollars ready to go.
And like I said, you want to have it in a check-in or savings
account.
You want it to be liquid.
But one of the things that I want to really talk about and the
reason why this step is so important guys is because this step
allows you to start it allows you to get things rolling.
Not only does it allow you to get things to start which is one
of my biggest big pet peeves is just to start just to get things
going a lot of people have a lot of hard time just starting
things but also to it dips your toe into the life of budgeting
you have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and go.
Hey, I spend $600 on fast food.
I spend $500 on entertainment.
You have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and to say
those things because it will put you into a position to budget
accurately and to have a budget.
I mean most of the time that I speak to people when they say hey,
I'm having financial issues how to can you always ask do you have
a budget most people like which means no they don't and you know
when I asked them how much they spend on XYZ.
They're always kind of you know, guessing right there using
guesswork to kind of figure out exactly what they spend and most
of the times they're probably low ball at it when it comes to the
amount anyways, and they need to be able to see it on paper and
I suggest the same thing for you.
You have to be able to see this stuff on paper guys, but if you
don't see it on paper, you won't know what you working with and
this will allow you to do that.
Also, I suggest that when you do this step this big step this
number one step this starting step.
I need you to be able to make accessing the money be a little
bit harder than it normally is for you.
It should not be underneath your mattress where you should where
you can be able to nibble off of it and be able to do what you
want with it.
I would like for you to possibly put it in a bank account that
is across town or maybe put it in a online account something
that maybe doesn't have a debit card that you actually have to
go to the bank and withdraw and why do I say that?
Well, the reason why I say that is is I want to make it a little
bit tougher for you to actually access the money not so tough
to where you can't use in an emergency but tough enough that
you won't be able to just pull and withdraw the money out whenever
you want.
That's what we're trying to avoid.
We want you to use things for emergencies as the fun States
when you go to the emergency room that would be an emergency
going to McDonald's and going to a movies.
It's not an emergency.
Now this is going to allow you to do some things that like it's
going to allow you to start.
It's going to allow you to budget.
It's going to allow you to have discipline and that's the reason
why this baby step is really important because if you don't do
this one guys, then you won't do it at all.
That mean that's just the truth of the matter.
Now.
I know what a lot of you guys are thinking when you thinking
hey, look, I don't know how I'm going to be able to save a
thousand dollars like right now.
Like I just don't have that.
I don't I can't do that.
What I want you to do is I want you to get down a piece of
paper and see what you can do to save that money.
Can you get rid of some things that you're paying for that
you don't need?
Can you sell some things that you are that are just sitting
in your closet?
Can you do some side hustles that I've talked about some
things that to make you some more income to get you to that
thousand dollars.
The chances are that you can do that.
It's just about are you willing to do those things?
So I want you to take a look at those and kind of figure out
if all of this makes sense to you and if it does you need
to pursue these things as fast as possible to get you the
money that you need into the account so that we can get to
this next baby step.
Okay.
So baby step number two, you want to pay off all of your
debt other than your house.
So what is that?
That means your car loans.
That means your credit cards and how do you want to go about
this where there are two methods that Dave explains in the
book.
One is called the avalanche method and one is called the
snowball method.
The avalanche method is basically paying off things that based
off of the interest rate and then the other method is paying
things off by first by the smallest balance now in the book
Dave suggests using the snowball method.
I agree with this.
So I want to explain this snowball avalanche method of paying
off your debt.
So what's the importance of this?
The biggest thing when it comes to paying off debt is when you
speak to folks and then you ask them like, you know, what is
it about paying off debt that scares you and most of the time
what scares people is seeing a high dollar amount that they
owe and they just feel like they're just chipping at it and
it's going to take forever.
They don't get any satisfaction out of actually paying and
seeing their debt go away because let's just face facts,
right psychologically.
It's always better to pay off the smallest balance first because
you know, if someone sees that they're paying off a balance
of let's just say you have three credit cards and one is $100
200 and then 300 if you pay off the hundred first now, you
only have two credit cards and then you go down that line.
If you pay off the 300 first and let's say you only had a
hundred dollars to do that.
You still have all three credit cards.
So psychologically, it's a lot better and I always suggest
to people to use the snowball method and it's called the
snowball method because you kind of get going taking out
each of those debt.
So you want to go ahead and take out like I said everything
that does not include the house, right?
So if you have a mortgage on this, you don't want to take
out the mortgage.
You want to take out your credit cards.
You want to take out your auto loans.
If you got any personal loans, you want to go for all of
that debt and you want to get rid of it.
We're trying to erase all of this debt because you don't
want all this debt to be hanging over your head if you're
trying to get to financial freedom and that is the whole
point of this is to get to that financial freedom and you
have to get rid of the debt to do that.
We want to have good debt not bad debt.
And what do I consider good debt?
I consider good debt mortgages, especially things that you
can make money off of your investments things like credit
cards auto loans personal loans.
I consider that bad debt.
If you haven't seen I had an old video where it's called
ugly debt.
It was one of my earlier videos and I explained that about
how you can choose and know which debt is the best and
what that is ugly and long story short.
It's really that high interest and you're not making money
off of it debt.
That is the really bad debt.
So just get rid of that debt.
That's the second baby step.
So baby step number three.
Okay, so you've paid off all of your debt, right?
You've got all of that taken care of and only thing you
have left is your house.
So what do you do next?
Well, baby step number three is to create a three to six
month emergency fund.
Now, why do you want to do something like this after you
just got done paying off all the debt?
Well, you want to take all that money that you were giving
to pay off the debt and you want to keep the ball rolling
by taking that exact money and then putting it towards
your emergency fund to create three to six months of expenses.
So remember look at your expenses.
Look at what you spend your money on.
Look at your budget.
Remember I did a video on budgeting and things of that nature.
So look at that video too, but just think about it all of
your expenses.
I want you to tally it up and find out what that is and
do three to six months of that.
Now the purpose of this again is to make sure that if something
were to happen, let's just say medical or you were to get
sick or you were to lose your job or something of that nature.
God forbid that would happen, but you don't want to fall
back into debt because you don't have any reserves.
You don't have any emergency fund or anything like that to
cover your expenses your month-to-month expenses that you
would normally have and most people think to themselves.
Well, you know the two months will do or something like that.
No, no, no, no.
You really do need a three to six month emergency fund.
I'd like to jump straight to six months, but sometimes people
can't do that much.
They can only do three months.
So three to six months so that you don't fall back into debt.
You want to keep this ball rolling because if you fall back
into debt because of something, you know, like you lost your
job or medical or something like that.
It starts you all the way all the way at the beginning of
this scenario of what we're talking about and we're trying
to inch you closer and closer and closer to getting that
financial freedom and to do that you have to create this
three to six month emergency fund.
So let's jump on that.
So baby step number four is investing 15% of your household
income into retirement.
Dave is saying to basically put 15% in your 401k put it also
in your Roth, especially if you're married into both you
and your spouse's account and he wants to do 15% of that.
Now.
My thing is with that is I did a video about a month ago
about free money when it comes to 401k.
Now Dave is including that in here saying that you need to
max out your 401k and I agree with that.
You should definitely max out your 401k.
I have been speaking that truth as far as telling people
invest into your 401k it they match they match.
It's free money guys.
If someone is matching you that they're giving you free money
in your hand every single time and I also explained in that
video without recreating that video is that one of the things
that you want to make sure is you want to make sure that
when it comes to the amount of money that you're putting
into there that you know all of the rules that come with
putting the money into your retirement account when it
comes to your job.
You want to make sure you're vested you want to make sure
that the employer won't take the money out.
So I want you guys to also when you do something like this
when you're going to put 15% of your income in this which
I think is a fantastic idea.
I just want you to dig a little bit deeper and look into
the rules of when it comes to your 401k and find out when
the amount would be vested when I say vested.
I mean when will the employers portion that they gave you
the free money that I'm talking about when will that go
hard for you meaning that they can't take it back if you
were to get fired if you were to leave and go somewhere
else.
That's what we need to figure out because if you put 15%
into this and then all of a sudden you move then it will
definitely deplete it.
You will still have your money that you and put in there,
but you will not have the money that the employer matched
and that is the key to this guys.
We're taking retirement serious.
You have to do this no matter what age you are.
You don't want to say.
Oh, I'm too old.
I don't want to do it.
You need to start now.
You don't want to say I'm too young.
I got plenty of time to do it.
You need to start now.
You need to take advantage of your employers matching
ability and the free money that they're going to give you.
I promise you you will not be unhappy in the future with
the money that they're going to give you and plus, you
know, especially with the cycles that are going on right
now at the end of the day.
You probably won't even need it for the next if you're
young 30 years if you're a little bit on the older probably
next 15 10 years.
So let that money set then you also want to do what Dave
said here, which was to put money into your Roth IRA.
Now.
He is saying to do that to max out your Roth IRA and so
you can have that money and you won't be taxed in the
future. Also, it knocks down your taxability as far as
your income that you can claim on your taxes not to get
too difficult into that meaning that if you put in $10,000
and you make a hundred thousand then that means that
your taxable income is $90,000 not the other way around.
So once again, please please please drop that money into
your retirement account.
We have to do this to get serious about this guys.
Let's go into the next step Davis suggesting a college
program, which is called the 529 program.
You put money into there and you won't be charged tax
and all that other stuff.
You can look that up and kind of get the details of that.
Do I agree with this?
Yeah, I do.
I think that it's a good plan.
It's always great to say for your kids, you know college
fun rather than you know for you to take out a loan or
anything like that.
I really really really agree with that.
But I also do have a different spend on that.
I tend to do like to put money if you have it if you
have it to put money into like the S&P 500 and let that
kind of ride up and tell my kids get up age and kind
of use that as a college fund to based off of previous
history. We've seen the S&P 500 do really well.
And so I don't really are index fund or something like
that. So I would like to do both.
I would suggest both.
I would suggest that if you have the money to put into
the S&P 500 then that would be great.
But this is where it divides because this is baby steps
and more than likely if someone is doing baby steps,
they don't probably have the money.
They do not have the money to invest in index funds
or invest in something else.
So with that being said the baby steps is the cleaner
easier way when you're going down this seven steps because
you can take the 529 and easily a lot of employers allow
you to take that money directly out of your paycheck
and put it into the fund itself.
So it works out better for everyone.
You get to see the money kind of not like taking out
of your account and you don't have to worry about doing
it yourself.
And I think that is the best way to do it.
Imagine how many times you have seen something come
out of your paycheck and then, you know months later
years later you look at and you've seen it's grown.
You don't miss it once it's out of your check.
So I would really suggest that this would be a really
really good idea.
And then later on you would do the process that I'm
talking about which is the S&P 500 first for your kids
college fund or whatever you're trying to do.
I like doing both of them because I think they're both
fantastic and for the baby steps.
I think this is the best one.
Okay, so baby step number six is to you got it.
It's to pay off your mortgage pay off your house.
So Dave is saying that basically what you want to do
is is since you've done all of this work to get you
in the clear the only thing standing in between you
only thing standing between you and full freedom from
debt is to go ahead and pay off your house.
So pay off your mortgage take all of the money that
you should have been paying towards debt because by
this time you've already got the emergency fund set
up. So you if anything was to happen you would have
that to fall back on you're putting money into your
401k your Roth is probably already maxed out.
So what do you have left pay off the house you continue
using that extra money that you have and you lay it
onto the house you pay down the debt anything that
you pay over the payment that you're paying goals
towards the principal and that's what he's trying
to say take that money that you would normally spend
on food and all this other stuff and all the debt
that you previously probably already had take all
of that money and throw it at the biggest debt of
all which is your house get rid of all of that.
And can you imagine how much money you will have
once you pay off your your house?
Let's just say your house was $1,500 and all of a
suddenly you wipe that out.
That's $1,500 extra a month that you can do a lot
with so Dave is saying go ahead take all the extra
funds that you were using to pay debt and everything
else off and go ahead and wipe away that debt which
is our mortgage which is your home and let's see
what you can do from there.
Let's go on to baby step number 7 the last and final
okay, so baby step number 7 if you made it to the
end of this video, thank you.
Thank you.
And I'm telling you number 7 is the best of all you've
paid off your house.
You've got all everything set up with your retirement.
And now what do you do with all this extra money?
Well all this extra money you can invest you can
give you can pretty much do what you want to do
travel because you have everything already situated
everything already just there ready to go if something
was bad to happen and let's talk about number 7 and
let's go down kind of like a little small list of
what you can do with this.
You can invest right you can invest in stocks.
You can invest in real estate.
You can invest in a new business.
You can invest in whatever you want something that's
going to make you money and take all of this money
and invest it into it because now you don't have
any debt and you can do that, right?
So let's talk about the other things that you can
do with the money, which is giving if you've watched
my other videos, you know that I'm really my forgot
the name of the video was I will say out three money
skills that everyone should know I'll go ahead and
post that above here, but it's giving is one of those
skills where I tell people man, like, you know, some
people may not like to do it.
I understand that but if you can give once you have
a certain amount of wealth, it feels really good to
give back to people to help them get to whatever
opportunities that your money are your giving would
get them to faster, right?
And that is one of the most important things about
giving is that not only do you feel great about giving
but the other person receiving it feels great by
receiving it because you're helping them along the
way to get to something a little bit faster and this
seventh step will allow you to do that because you
completed all the other six steps and then number
three, you can leave inheritance for your children.
I don't want to really get into this but trust you
can create a trust to leave your money to your kids,
you know, you want to get rid of you don't want to
do probate.
I mean, I haven't done a video on that yet, but nobody
wants to deal with probate.
So just create a trust have the money ready for when
if something were to happen to you or your spouse
and the money will be going, you know flow through
the trust to your children and that would be great
to you can do that too.
It would be your choice.
Whatever you want to do to get to that point, but those
are the choices you have you can pretty much do anything.
I just wanted to really name those kind of three
categories that you can really do for the baby step
number seven.
So the question is is what do I really think of the
entire Dave Ramsey seven baby steps and so I could
have made this into a separate video, but I think
it's just better just to kind of make this all linear.
I just told you all seven baby steps now.
I'm going to break down and tell you exactly what
I think of it and I told you in the seven steps the
pros of it basically.
So we're just going to jump into the cons.
So number one that Dave Ramsey doesn't talk about
is you kind of have to start from there's like this
zero type step and that step is that you must have
all of your bills paid off before you even start this
baby step program and Dave doesn't run necessarily
say that but it's the truth you there's no way you're
going to save $1,000 or put money aside or start paying
on credit card bills.
If you don't have your regular bills paid off.
I'm talking about your electric bill your phone bill
your gas sewer water.
If you are behind on those things and your month a
month then this process is going to be extremely hard
and I mean extremely hard for you to start this process
and Dave doesn't really speak about that and that's
just really the truth.
So let's go into the next count.
So the next one is that the baby step number two is
really hard.
It is really hard.
Not only is baby step too hard, but the pro program
is very hard especially because this program is set
up for someone who is a beginner who is starting almost
from the you know on the side of struggling.
It is for the individuals who are on the side of struggling
and to understand a way and to create steps that they
need to quote unquote get to that debt freedom that
they're looking for.
And so a lot of times when I hear people about doing
this, they always ask me Orlando.
I read Dave Ramsey's book and he's doing the seven baby
steps. Is it hard?
Is it as easy as he States out in the book and the
answer to that is no it is hard.
It is going to be hard and it's definitely going to
be hard for someone who knows nothing about finances
and has not been disciplined up until this point of
starting the actual program that is going to be very
very very very tough.
And so you have to get your mind kind of like in shape
and ready for that.
But the question is is how can you get ready for something
when you have never experienced the type of discipline
that's going to be required in this program and that's
going to be tough.
So that is another con another con is that people quit
people quit on this all the time because it is so hard
for them to come from one side of not saving not doing
this not paying off their credit cards and all that other
stuff and to be debt-free.
It is extremely hard and a lot of people quit.
I can imagine that the rate of people quitting on this
is probably more than 60% I would say that people quit
and it goes hand-in-hand of what I said.
The reason why this program may not be for you is that
it's hard.
It's not an easy thing to do.
It's not an easy thing to warp your mind around trying
to get your finances into debt.
Now, should you do it?
Should you stray away from this because it's hard.
I'm not saying that at all.
I'm just saying that it is not something that you just
Walk into and you just say, oh, yep.
I'm doing the Dave Ramsey 7 baby steps.
It's not like that.
So a lot of people quit guys.
So you have to get ready for that thought in your head
that silent talking that saying you know what this is
too hard.
I need to quit you have to be ready for it and get that
out of your head.
Another con that I have for the program is that it's this
program really isn't for everyone this program doesn't
fit every situation.
This program doesn't fit someone like me who is on the
higher spectrum of investments and income and all that
other stuff, right?
It doesn't really fit me but it does fit someone who
maybe doesn't know anything about finances are someone
who is struggling and trying to get their financial orders
in progress.
So this plan does not a one-size-fits-all program this program
with to me when I would judge it, it wouldn't work for
me.
It just wouldn't work for me with my investments.
I have multiple property investments and for me to pay
off my mortgages and all that other stuff.
It just doesn't align with my investments my tax write-offs
my all of this other stuff.
It just does not align.
But if I was an individual who was living paycheck to
paycheck are was individual who didn't have any financial
literacy when it comes to figuring out how do I make sure
that I could save money and that I have an emergency fund
and all this other stuff then it fits individuals like
that.
It fits individuals who are closer to the struggling side
than it does to individuals who make half a million dollars
a year like that's just the gist of it.
And even though some people watching this may go duh
Orlando, it still needs to be said that this program is
not a one-size-fits-all.
Another issue that I've seen in this is the snowball effect.
I did speak about the psychological effect that it really
does have on you and I truly truly do agree that the psychological
part really helped some folks, but I do want to let that
be known that the snowball effect is expensive guys, and
I know it's kind of weird because on one hand we're talking
about saving money and getting rid of debt and don't spend
extra money and put money into an emergency fund and we're
talking about all of these things.
But then on the other hand, I'm saying hey guys pay off
your debt that is going to cost you more money in the end,
but it's just one of those things.
But I just want you to understand that I'm not saying the
snowball effect is not powerful because it is you seeing
you get rid of cars off of that.
It can give you a boost in your back like no other but you
have to realize that it is expensive.
It's more expensive than the other realm, which is the avalanche,
but it all depends on your discipline and how you go about
things.
Okay.
So another con is this is that the $1,000 that you need for
your savings account that you're putting for your emergency
fund.
I don't really think 1,000 is enough.
I believe that you probably need to put a little bit more
into that fund.
I know he has like an emergency fund for one step and then
you put more money into a savings account.
I actually believe you need to have a little bit more into
that thousand, but I also believe to that the thousand dollars
that you put in there is a good start, but I would increase
that by probably three to four times more than that, but I
understand also to that individuals may not be able to afford
that and $1,000 is a good starting point.
But if I really really could get a person to put a little
bit more into that fun.
I definitely would but I totally understand it would be a
stretch and then the last and final con that I have on this
guys is that it really doesn't have in this plan.
It really doesn't have an investment strategy for you guys.
I really am big on investment strategies.
How do you make more money off of the money that you're going
to be putting into things?
This is about getting rid of your debt and teaching you
financial literacy and I understand that but it doesn't
really say much about what you should do for investments.
And the only thing that you're doing in investments in this
realm is doing into your 401k or your Roth saving for your
retirement, but it's not really telling you how to make more
money off of the money that you're saving and I would love
to see that in it.
And I think those are the plot holes that are in this.
They're also understand that it's seven baby steps not 26
baby steps.
So I do understand that but in the end, this is my review
is that I believe that the seven baby steps are exactly
what it states which is seven baby steps and an individual
who is a baby when it comes to financial literacy are being
financial independent.
I think this is a great plan.
But once you get into adolescent it when it comes to financial
or maybe a toddler, you know, then I think that this it
kind of gets you run out of a lot of the steps that Dave
is telling you to do and for me for me and particularly
I couldn't follow these exact steps.
I could take one to maybe but when you get to paying off
the mortgages and stuff like that, I just don't really follow
that type of plan and I'm not saying that you shouldn't I
say you should if you're not invested if you're not interested
in the investment portion if you're not interested in a lot
of things if you are just starting off and you're struggling
follow this plan to a tee because it will not hurt you to
follow this plan.
But if you're trying to elevate and you get past these stages
of this baby steps, then you probably need to go off of
the program into something a little bit more aggressive
and that's just my opinion guys.
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