Lecture by Wen Chen Ph.D. Cal Tech.Infiltration of America by the Chinese Communist Regime.

Let me know when you're ready, echo, echo, okay, well thank you guys for coming tonight, really appreciate it. We're here to hear Wen Chen tonight, she's a biologist from Caltech, she's done over 300 talks, come on up. She actually lived in China as a young girl and had a lot of incredible experiences that we as Americans could never imagine and she will discuss some of that and how the CCP had completely brainwashed her into believing things that just were not true, so why don't you take it away. Thank you, Dana, I'm so happy to be here tonight. So I was born and raised in China, I came to the United States in 1994. So I mean I have been making a living all my life as a scientist. I'm a biologist and you know I came here for graduate school, I got my PhD at Caltech in 2000 on biology and it's kind of interesting like we are here talking about something totally unrelated to my career and there was one thing in my life that really changed my view towards China. It was in 1995, I was a graduate student at Caltech and my colleagues asked me about the Tiananmen massacre and I'm sure all of you remember Tiananmen massacre, you know the Tankman story, everyone knows about it and in 1995, it was already six years after the massacre happened. I was a very, very brainwashed Chinese student. I just bluntly replied. It seems that the volume is too low. Do you want to raise it? Hello, can you hear me? Can you all hear me? Can you all hear me? Is this loud enough? Okay, great. Okay, so yeah I'm sharing my personal story how I became interested in this subject. So it was in 1995, I told all my American colleagues that there was no Tiananmen massacre. I said like I knew it because when I was in China, everyone just told me that oh there was no massacre and on the Chinese TV, we saw dead bodies of soldiers and the government told us that students killed soldiers and I told my American friends about this. They said like oh you're brainwashed. How could you believe that? Like people all over the world knew the Tankman. There were videos and there were pictures. I said Hollywood made them. That's what my government told me. So that was in 1995. It took me years to awake from this propaganda. Basically, you have to break one lie, you have to break another lie and I remember it was around 2000 and 2001. At that time, I already graduated from Caltech and the institute offered me a permanent position as a staff scientist and also that year, I got married and everything was great and I decided for the rest of my time, I got to do something to help this society to become a better place and especially that I work as an information scientist. My career, I work as a scientific curator. Every day, I read literature and I summarize the information. I build a database. I write softwares. I do community outreach. I give seminars at universities and conferences and I decided I can apply the same skill. I can read about information about China. I can tell my American friends about what's going on in China and I have been speaking about human rights in China. I've been speaking about how the Communist Party infiltrated into the Western society. Everyone wants to talk about China. We don't care about China. In this world, we have so many problems. We have Iran, we have North Korea, we have ISIS. We're so busy. Who cares about China? I have to tell them that these are all related because we are basically in a battle against communism. All the problems in the world, North Korea, Cuba, Iran, ISIS, they are all related to China. They have this alliance of totalitarianism and China is the center by providing money and technology. For example, we have been talking about North Korea for years. China is a major sponsor of North Korea by providing 90% of the trade and China provided them with oil and food and provides them nuclear technology and nuclear material. This woman, Ma Xiaohong, was indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice in 2016 for exporting nuclear material to North Korea. She did not do that alone. There were about two dozen businesses, companies, and banks in China. They united together. They worked together in this building at the borderline between North Korea and China. My husband used to work for one of these companies when he was in China. He actually visited North Korea and obviously he did not like it. That's why he's working for the Epoch Times now, the biggest newspaper outlet for uncensored news about China. Harbin Institute of Technology has been training North Korean students and scientists about nuclear technology. Same thing about Iran. Remember several years ago, ZTE, one of the biggest IT companies in China, paid a huge fine for exporting U.S. technology to Iran. The other company, Huawei, also had the same issue. Of course, China is behind all these companies because they were not doing it for profit. It was the requirement of the Chinese government for them to give the Iran government these technologies. Why are we so unhappy about the Communist Party taking over the world? Because in all Communist Party countries, there are always atrocities. For example, when I was raised in China, my parents survived the Great Famine in the 1950s and 1960s. That was when the Communist Party said, oh, it's communism, so everyone submits their food to the government. You're not allowed to get home. You can only go to the government-run cafeteria. We are going to provide you the food. Soon, the food was gone. There was not enough food. About 30 to 40 million Chinese died from the starvation, the big famine. But the Chinese government still denied nowadays that there was a famine. They called it a natural disaster, but nobody knew what kind of disaster happened at that time. My parents also survived the Great Cultural Revolution in the 1960s. That was when communism went to the extreme. They were so afraid of independent thinking that they decided that any education could give people independent thinking, so they shut down the whole education system in China for 10 years. People were not allowed to go to school, and they destroyed almost every piece of antique, every ancient building in China, and they killed over 2 million intellectuals during those 10 years. I will not say too much about the Tiananmen Massacre. About 10,000 students and citizens died in Beijing because they protested in 1989 for democracy and freedom. But that was not the end of the atrocities. Just after 10 years, the Chinese government started the biggest persecution towards Falun Gong. This is a meditation practice based on traditional Chinese culture with the principle of truthfulness, compassion, and tolerance. Falun Gong is famous for its health benefits, and it's always taught for free because, according to the teachings, nobody should make profit from that. About 70 million Chinese practiced Falun Gong. That made the Communist Party unhappy because they thought if everyone followed truthfulness, compassion, and tolerance, it would be impossible to brainwash them. So in 1999, they threw millions of people to prison because they meditated. They practiced Falun Gong. In the past 22 years, at any given time, there's always about half a million Falun Gong detainees in China. They were tortured to give up the practice. They were forced to do slave labor for 12 to 16 hours per day without break. That's why Americans lost so many jobs to China because during this globalization era, every company wanted cheap labor, so they moved their production line to China to use cheap labor and slave labor. But what shocked me the most is the news about the forced organ harvesting towards Falun Gong practitioners because the Chinese government has been using organs from death row prisoners. They already were doing that in the 1970s. But after the persecution towards Falun Gong started, they suddenly found these are the best donors, quoted donors, because they don't smoke, they don't drink. They're the best organs that people can buy. So in the US, we typically wait for years for donors because we wait until someone dies from a car accident. But in China, almost every hospital provides organs within 24 hours. You can go there and buy, and they can even kill someone for you, and they can guarantee the quality they replace for free. And I will not go through the details because of the time limit today. And the Communist Party is able to maintain the authority for so many years because they are very successful in brainwashing Chinese people. And this control is beyond the imagination of us. For example, the Chinese government controls all media in China. That's why after the Tiananmen massacre happened, for the whole six years, I was clueless until I came to the US. And there's a censorship on everything circulating in the society, books, arts, films, social media. And every year, they only allow about 34 foreign films to be shown in China. And Hollywood is eager to modify their films to cater to the needs of the Chinese government so that they can enter the market. So of course, these foreign media and foreign films will never show any true situation of human rights in China. And also, of course, you cannot read any foreign media like Wall Street Journal or CNN. And internet in China, strictly speaking, is intranet. Because the Chinese government built this great firewall on top of the internet to block Chinese people from accessing any outside information. If you ask a Chinese student that recently came from China, if you ask them about Tiananmen massacre, they are probably still clueless if they do not bypass the great firewall. And a significant percentage of Chinese are still very, very brainwashed nowadays. And the surveillance in China is beyond your imagination also. I was very surprised after I came to the US to find out what is neighborhood committee. They are actually good. They help each other. But while I was in China, the function of neighborhood committee is to monitor every household on the street. They're checking what you're doing at home. Are you meditating? Are you practicing Falun Gong? Then they can report you to the authority, and they can get rewards for that. And they would look at everyone who visited you. Is that a dissident? Is that an underground Christian visiting you? Is that a political dissident? If so, they will report you to the authority. And that is what neighborhood committee in China do. And Communist Party chapter is required in every company and every school, including Western companies like Disney. Like Disney Shanghai, they have a Communist Party chapter. And the companies are required by the Chinese government to pay for the operation of their local Communist Party chapter. And it's also required that for a certain level of company, if they're large enough, they must have a Communist Party member sitting on their board to oversee the operation of the companies. And also, China is the biggest surveillance country. And there are surveillance cameras everywhere, including classrooms, because the government wants to know what the teachers are teaching in the classroom. And China already has 200 million surveillance cameras across the country. And their goal is to have one surveillance camera monitoring every two Chinese people. And they want to export this to the United States, because we have been buying surveillance cameras made in China. And all of these surveillance cameras can send our information to the Chinese central government. And also, all the hardware is made in China, from cell phones, to softwares, to laptops. And it's very easy for the Chinese government to install backdoors on these hardware and send the information back to China. And when these IT companies in China tell you, oh, we're going to keep your privacy, don't trust them. Because China passed the national intelligence law, and it was required for all companies or individuals to collaborate with the military. Whenever the government needs their data, they must submit it. So there's no way that Huawei can keep your data private, because they must submit it. Otherwise, they would break the Chinese law. And I also want to talk about the infiltration to the United States media. You may think that the propaganda is far away from us. You have never read them. But you have been reading them for decades. This is a screenshot of the Washington Post several years ago. And when people read about this part of Washington Post called China Watch, they'll say, oh, Washington Post has started a Chinese blog, a blog about China. But no, these are paid ads by the Chinese government. They want Washington Post to carry their advertisements, and their advertisements are in article format. And China has been paying over 30 mainstream newspapers in the world to carry their newspaper insertion and advertisement, including New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and L.A. Times. And this is a real example of L.A. Times, April 29, 2020. And on that particular date, L.A. Times had 38 pages. And 11 out of these 38 pages were paid ads by the Chinese government. It's called International Daily. But I'm afraid very few people can find the very tiny font saying this is this paid ad. And all the contents came from the Chinese government. They highly praise how wonderful China was in dealing with the pandemic, how wonderful the Chinese government was in protecting their people. So when people read this, they say, oh, L.A. Times said China is doing a much better job than the U.S. It looks like the Communist Party is a much better system than freedom and democracy in the U.S. And we have been reading this day after day. And we just started. And oh, I want to say, at the same time, scientific journals were also heavily infiltrated by the Chinese government because they want to enter the Chinese market. They want Chinese people to buy their scientific magazines. And that's why during the pandemic, all these mainstream scientific publications, they highly supported the Wuhan virus lab. When everyone questioned whether this virus came from Wuhan lab, these scientists, they openly endorsed Shi Zhenling in the Wuhan virus lab. And you may not realize that the Chinese government already infiltrated into these magazines. Actually, some of these magazines were operated by the Chinese government in China. They actually require the authors, where they are from Taiwan, they must say they were from Taiwan, China, instead of Taiwan. But this is like a really, very bad for the Americans because many Americans realize that, OK, we can't trust the mainstream media like the New York Times because they have business ties with the Chinese government. But they may not realize scientific journals also have this kind of ties. And Americans typically trust scientists. They always say, oh, we should follow science. When scientists say so, it must be true. If scientific journals were infiltrated, if scientists were bright, and then you will not read any truth from science. And we just started to realize this infiltration started to counteract it by labeling some of these Chinese media as foreign missions. And once they are labeled as foreign missions, they must disclose their financial status, like what kind of business they did in the US. So in 2020, I was able to read a document on the website of the US Department of Justice about the business done by the China Daily newspaper. And if you look at the number of the business trade that they did with other mainstream media, we were shocked to find out New York Times got $4.6 million from China for newspaper insertions. And Wall Street Journal got $6 million. And I didn't count the number of other media, but the list was long. And after the news came out, New York Times immediately removed several hundred articles from their website without telling anyone, of course. But you can't find them anymore. And I think last year, the number showed like Newsweek, some other journals. And these have been going on for many years. And at the same time, I want to mention about the infiltration into the US education system. And ever since the Communist, even before the Communist Party took over China, they have been inviting professors, educators, scholars to visit China and give them red carpet treatment. And after they came back from this red carpet treatment, basically like every individual they met in China were arranged ahead of time. And these professors would give a lecture in a top university. And every student was chosen ahead of time in the classroom. And every question they asked was arranged ahead of time. And they even rehearsed them again and again. Trust me, I went through this when I was in China. And then these professors, after they came back, they would say, oh, the Communist Party is so successful. You know, in China, everyone was happy. People lived a wonderful life. And they have 100% of support from students. And then they teach this to their students in the US. And these students, after they grow up, they become professors. They become reporters. And they start to tell good stories of China. And they go to China for another round of red carpet treatment. And then generation after generation, the American universities became very, very brainwashed. They have this very fancy description about the Communist Party and about communism. And they want to make US like that. My daughters went to a public school in Pasadena. And throughout the years in public school, high school, they never learned anything about the atrocities in China. And they kept criticizing how bad the American system is. And that's why many young people nowadays think Communist Party is a better system because of the propaganda they got in the universities and in the high schools. And Confucius Institute is a free Chinese program operated by the Chinese government in over 100 universities and over 500 high schools in the US. And China already spent $2 billion in 15 years for their Confucius Institute. Worldwide, there are about 500 all over the world. And don't think that this has anything to do with Confucianism. They teach the Communist Party's version of Chinese history. And of course, you cannot talk anything about human rights, about Tibet, Taiwan, or Tiananmen. Nothing about that. And teachers from the Confucius Institute were recruited from China. And of course, they're not allowed to practice Falun Gong. But what shocked the people the most was this video program from the website of Confucius Institute about the Korean War. Basically, they said that Americans started the Korean War because Americans wanted to invade North Korea and then invade China. And that was exactly what I learned when I was a student in China. But now we're talking about the UCLA. We're talking about Stanford. We're talking about top universities in the US. We spend so much money sending our children and grandchildren to these universities. And these universities outsource their Mandarin history, Mandarin language to the local Confucius Institute. And this is the propaganda they're receiving in the universities. And we also just started to counteract this infiltration to the US by labeling Confucius Institute as a foreign mission and stopped giving funding to those universities running Confucius Institute. And of course, universities always want more funding. So they have to choose whether they want Chinese money or American money. And about 60% of Confucius Institutes already closed in the US. But I think it's slowing down in the past couple of years because of the change of the administration. And also in Hollywood, you may not realize that AMC was bought by a Chinese company, Dali and Wanda, in 2012. And through AMC, Dali and Wanda bought other entertainment industry in the US, including comic cinemas and also legendary entertainment. Like these filmmaking companies, they have to follow Chinese government's rule of what kind of film they can make and what kind of film they can show. And of course, they will never criticize the Chinese government. And oftentimes, they have to tell good story about China. Just think about how many times in the big Hollywood movies, you see Americans, we send our astronauts to Mars. He got stuck there. Oh, we can't get him back. And then China came to help, right? How many times? We're watching this again and again. And what's the take-home message to the whole generation of Americans is that Communist Party is a better system. They have better technology than ours. You know, when our astronauts got stuck there, they are able to get them back, and they will come to help us when we need them. This is the message that the Chinese government wanted to remember. And also, I want to briefly mention the infiltration into the government, because so many people want to go to China to do business. And so the Chinese government can control them. Say, if you want to do business in China, you have to endorse this candidate. You have to vote for him. And so they can control many business associations, chamber of commerce. They invite them to China for private treatment, and come back, you have to support this elected official. And they also, after the elections, they would invite the officials to China for private treatment. And then after they come back, they will never meet human rights activists again. And remember several years ago, Dianne Feinstein, one of her staff, a long-term staff, and he worked for Feinstein for 20 years. Do you believe that Feinstein was never influenced by him in 20 years? I think very few people believe that. And also, one real example of how the Chinese government interfered with the local affairs of the United States. I mentioned about the organ harvesting in China. And in the U.S., at least 10 states already passed a statewide resolution condemning the forced organ harvesting, and also reminding their residents not to go to China for organ transplants. And California tried to pass a similar resolution in 2017, but before SJR-10, the anti-organ harvesting resolution, was voted, the Chinese consulate in San Francisco sent an email to every California senator asking them to pass that resolution. Senator President Kevin de Leon passed that resolution. I was so shocked at that time. I said, wow. I mean, this is what they can do. The elected officials, they just follow the orders of the Chinese consulate, not our constituents. And now, if you look at the whole international level, this is not restricted to the U.S. China is doing the same thing for every country in the world, especially through their Belt and Road Initiative. It sounded like a very good project from the name. China would approach those developing countries and say, oh, you need money. You're in financial difficulty. We're going to give you a huge loan to build your airport, your infrastructure. Don't worry about the money you can pay us back later. And then they would bribe the elected officials to attract them to sign a contract. And then China would send them everything right there, you know, construction work, material. So it does not harm the local economy at all, because everything came from China. And then after the project was done, and there's a huge, big, fat bill. And then this country would say, oh, we can't pay for this big bill. What should we do? And then the Chinese government would say, okay, let us use your airport. And Sri Lanka lost one of its very important trade with China, because of the financial trap of the Belt and Road Initiative. And that was how the Chinese government expanded its military influence all over the world, and also in the United Nations, because every country has one vote. Because China already controls the infrastructure of so many countries, they always get the most votes. Under the 15 agents of the United Nations, China already leads all of them. And the other 11 China hold important positions, or have a close tie with the leader. Think about World Health Organization during the whole pandemic. They never did any independent visit. They just copied every word the Chinese government told them, because the leader was from Ethiopia, that's also in the Belt and Road Initiative. And the Communist Party is powered by trade. Decades, Western business owners went to China. They had this fantasy, say, once we do business with communists, they will magically open their door, and there will be lack of freedom and democracy, and everything will be fine. Unfortunately, that did not happen, because China used cheap labor and slave labor, Chinese people only got a small percentage of benefits from this business with Western companies. And the Communist Party got the most profit. That's why they had so much money to run the surveillance system in China, and to buy the United States, to buy the United Nations. And Western companies in China did not play a good role or human rights. Cisco prompted the Chinese government to build the Great Firewall Internet to block Chinese people from accessing outside information. And Yahoo gave their email contents to the Chinese police. They said, we have to follow Chinese law when we operate in China. And unfortunately, quite a few Chinese reporters, they trusted Yahoo as a Western company. They used Yahoo email to discuss how the Chinese government prevented them from reporting news about Tiananmen Massacre. And these reporters, because Yahoo gave their email to the police as evidence, they were sentenced to 80 years, 10 years in prison. While the Chinese government is actually expanding its influence all over the world, back in the land of China, they're having a problem. Ever since the Communist Party took over China, they had no problem wiping out any organization, because Chinese people were already used to remain silent towards injustice. But Falun Gong was an exception, because this is a group, they follow truthfulness, compassion, tolerance. They believe that they must speak up when they see injustice. So between 1999 and 2001, every morning, there were hundreds and thousands of Falun Gong went to public, demonstrating, asking for their rights dramatically. And that really shocked the Chinese community. Everyone thought, wow, Falun Gong, they're so brave. They say no to the Communist Party just for the rights dramatically? And how come we cannot step up for our rights? Nowadays, there are hundreds and thousands of different groups and individuals coming out to protest for their rights in China. But Falun Gong turned underground in 2001. They started to print flyers and make DVDs and distribute them in the neighborhood to awake Chinese people from the propaganda. And one can be sentenced to three years in prison for passing out 100 flyers like that. But we are talking about the millions of people in China risking their lives in the past 20 years to awake Chinese people. And at the same time, out of China, in the United States, there are also some Falun Gong practitioners. They are computer scientists. They formed three major companies to write free softwares to help Chinese people to bypass the Great Firewall on internet. They have been having a competition of technology with the Chinese government to punch holes on the Great Firewall. And nowadays, about 30% of the internet users in China regularly bypass the Great Firewall to read the news about the world and to find out what happened in China. And that started the Great Human Rights Movement in 2004. And China started to have human rights lawyers. People started to sign petitions. They started to file lawsuits against the corrupted officials. And what encouraged me the most is the trend of quitting the Communist Party. Communist Party runs like a mafia. Basically, they would identify the most successful people in the society. They would recruit you, and you must join. Otherwise, you have huge trouble. And once you join the party, you must pay the fee. You must go to all the activities to persecute your fellow Chinese. And you can't quit. Otherwise, you have big trouble, right? So in 2004, volunteers in San Diego started a website. Chinese people can send their statements through the VPNs, like those softwares, bypass Great Firewall, and post it on this website, saying, I want to quit the Communist Party. I want to quit the youth of the Communist Party. Or I want to quit the Young Pioneer. Those are for the high school students and elementary school students. And then they can get a digital certificate of quitting the Communist Party with a unique serial number. And this digital certificate is recognized by the U.S. government as an official document of quitting the Communist Party. Because you cannot be a U.S. citizen as a Chinese Communist Party member. I became a U.S. citizen in 2013. When I was naturalized, I had to answer a standard question. Have you ever joined a Nazi, ISIS, or Communist Party? If the answer was yes, I cannot be a U.S. citizen, then I have to submit this certificate on this website with my serial number saying I quit the Communist Party or Youth League or Young Pioneer on this website. And the immigration office would accept this as an official document. And on this website, the number I saw yesterday was 400 million Chinese people quitting the Party. And I think this is the best news from China. Because before the Soviet Union collapsed, we saw something very similar going on. You know, for years, people abandoning communism. And we are seeing the same thing happening in China. And I believe that the human rights movement in China will bring a great future to China and to the world. And they are doing their job. And it's time for our Americans to take action, to stand up, to protect our freedom. And I want to thank the Epoch Media Group for uncensored news about China, and especially this book, How the Specter of Communism is Ruling Our World. I think I would regard it as my textbook. And my daughter, Amber, I talked about my husband. He has been working for the Epoch Times for 20 years. And here's our daughter, Amber Wang. She's 16. She's a volunteer for the Epoch Times. You want to say something about the newspaper and the book? So my name is Amber. I'm a volunteer for the Epoch Times. And what I have here, basically, is a book that's written by the editorial board of the Epoch Times. It's a comprehensive analysis, essentially, of how communism has infiltrated our Western society right now. And the authors of the book actually have to remain anonymous in order to protect their identities as they risk harassment or even persecution by the Chinese government. And so that is why I'm here to promote the book for them today. And the entire set for these two books is $35 if you would like to buy one. And yeah, that's it. Thank you, Amber. You can get the books after my talk. And yeah, so that is all of my talk. I'm open for questions. I know Dana wanted me to talk a lot. I feel like we need to give the opportunity to the audience. I have quite a few different topics, but today's topic is focused on infiltration. But you can ask me any question related to China. Thank you for being here tonight. It's really great to see all of you. You might mention how naive Americans are. I was one of them. I got involved with this group in 2000. And I honestly thought that these people were paranoid over the top, you know, and I was with them and helping them. And I had to see it firsthand. I actually got attacked by Chinese nationalists. And I actually attended for the last 20 years conferences, New York, DC, and San Francisco. And I've actually seen them throw things at us, call us names, attack us. They've actually broken into our offices in New Jersey, Flushing, New York, other places. Imagine breaking into our places, American places, and doing this. So this is what you need to wake up is that this is going on and on our own soil. And how dare them? You know, you wouldn't let somebody come up to your house and do that. So we need to stand up. We cannot let a foreign entity, an evil foreign entity, come against us and against this great country that stands for freedom for the entire world. And that's why this lecture is so important, because you need to really open your eyes and see the long arm of the specter of China, how they've overreached and infiltrated and how they're influencing you through movies, through the TV, through newspapers, and unbeknownst things that you're not even aware of. So this is something that I became aware of, and I'm very thankful to my friends here. Thank you, Sharon. Another question? There's no question. I just want to say a few words. I'm Dr. Dana Churchill. Thanks for coming to my clinic tonight to have this talk. She's done over 300. She's one of the popular directors right now in sports organ harvesting. The Doctors in Sports Organ Harvesting formed in 2006, when we saw a preponderance of questionable transplants going on in the world. The hotbed was China. So we've actually focused on China the whole time. We believe that's what's reverberating out around the world. And in other places, we talk to somebody from Iran about what's going on. They say, well, that's going on in Iran all the time. It's similar to what's happening in China. We've been working since, I've been doing it since 2000, 2001, with politicians in D.C. almost every year, going, we have four resolutions passed. Basically, the best resolution we had the last one was Resolution 343 by two or three, two Congresses ago, when Ed Royce was chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee then. And what's interesting is Ed Royce's office, we knew we were in, we knew a lot of what's going on then. Ed Royce's office got no less than 50 calls every single day when they found out that he was just talking to us about this resolution, just even contemplating that Foreign Affairs would okay it and let it go for a vote. Well, in his office, they joked about it after a while. But the major politicians that were the ones that were going to say, you know, this can go through to a vote for the Congress, they were getting hammered by the Communist Party constantly from San Francisco, from L.A., from the consulates, from all over the place. And it actually happened to the Australians to such an extent, when they tried to block them from going to Shenyong, you might know Shenyong, a Chinese classical dance show, and they actually joked when the politicians finally got to Shenyong, there were so many from Australia that their federal politicians, they all joked that we could have a meeting here in Shenyong. It was just pretty funny. So what Sharon says is true. There's been so much stuff that we don't even know about. But back to the work of harvesting, we're talking about millions and millions of Falun Gong members. And that just means that you practice Falun Gong and you do it openly. I mean, in China, you have to be careful. But Master Li has always told us, I practiced it. This is not something we sweep under the rug. You practice and you report to practice and that's it. And you answer questions and whatever you need to do, you're truthful. That's one of the tenets. So they've been rounding up practitioners from the practice sites. Some still go, some don't. They've been, as she said, they talk, they tell, if you're practicing in your home, people will rat you out and they'll get money for it. And basically then they'll take you and the torture is horrific. I used to edit the articles and turn it into English so people can understand it. And I read it, they're really bad. But now the organ harvesting started in 2001 and it's been going on ever since. And it's been, we're talking millions and millions of people lost their lives because of this. And we have so much data. In the beginning, we pulled up, well, we can't now because they took everything off the internet, but there was many, many websites. There was people advertising organs for, you know, as quick as 48 hours. So we talked like two weeks to 24 hours. That's how fast you can get an organ. And even today, if you know the right person, you can go right to China and get an organ and they make it like a big tourist thing. Like everything's all beautiful, go tourist this and that, get your organ. And we had a TV station, a Korean TV station actually went into one of the hospitals, infiltrated into the hospitals undercover and found out from the Korean nurse where she was Korean, but she also spoke Chinese. She was taking care of the Korean people who had come to Korea before they got their surgeries. And they, basically the nurse admitted it's going on and everybody just looked the other way. So, I mean, we have so much data lies in other countries now, the demand, you know, if the demand's there, then you're going to have, you know, they'll be able to sell it. And there's a lot of, you know, bribery going on. Chinese government will bribe you in a second, they'll threaten you. So this has now reverberated, not just from human, you know, transplant, but it's reverberated to our politicians, to our media, as you see with the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. My parents still think that the New York Times is the Bible. They won't even listen to me. Like I could show them all the articles in the world and they're just like, we're Ivy League, we're educated, we're like above. And they're not arrogant, but they think that they know everything. My father's read every literature there is. You know, they're brilliant, but they're so brilliant that they can't get it. It's kind of scary. Luckily, they've been to Shen Yung a few times. I mean, they're open enough, but when now, especially after Trump and all the Epoch Times, they used to love Epoch Times, and all of a sudden Epoch Times has a bunch of articles about Donald Trump. Oh, no, we can't read that anymore. It's like unbelievable. So I'm still trying to break through on them. I just bring you over there. But it's been really, it's been a long haul. But okay, so now we have just two weeks ago, our group, the Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting had been working on this for quite some time. We tried to do in the last Congress, we had two Congress congressional members, we had a Democrat, we had a Republican, so it's going to be bipartisan. It's a bill. Now, it's a real bill. It's not just a resolution. A bill has teeth, it has acts, it has things that we can do. We can sanction those members of CERC that are coming to the United States, sanction them with a super asset, a government grant. Don't think that those CERC people, they need to go around the world to the transplant conferences to be part of it, and to get business for their cities and for the hospitals. Unfortunately, we have, you know, there are certain transplant hospitals that are working directly with the communists, or with the other hospitals, let's say, and they've been told, literally, that this is going on. We've told them multiple times. I mean, they know our director very well. He's an MD, PhD. They know him very well. He's talked to their heads of their department, the TTS, the Transplant Society. Last time we saw him, pictures with these surgeons, Wang Jifu, the head of transplant in China, pictures with him in China, and basically saying that Wang Jifu said, this is not happening anymore. We did used to take prisoners' organs. We admit that's wrong. We cleaned up our act. Now we have these systems around China. We have, we can take, people are donating, and we'll even allow, even allow the prisoners to donate if they want to. I mean, it's really sick. They twist everything all around. But if you didn't know any of this, you would really take it for face value, or you could sweep it under the rug and say, well, they said it. Now we're making so much money from them. If they said it, then that's true, and we're not going to get in trouble. But those universities, they're, they're on a fine thread right now. I mean, eventually it's going to calm down. You know, who did you train? Did they go back to China? What did they do there? Then they, and if they start going back and forth, this is really bad, especially if the Americans start going to China and start doing research with these people's bodies and these organs, because they're all killed for research. And then look at the drug companies. I don't doubt many of the drug companies did research on Falun Gong practitioners, swept it under the rug, published the research, sold the drugs for billions of dollars. This is bad. I mean, this really gets out of, people have some balls in the world and start to take these guys down. It's going to happen, I think, but it's just a long haul. So the work you're doing, the work we're doing, you guys, you know, now you know that you can go out and tell other people, that's what's going to stop this. So we do have a bill that we just put out. It's called the Falun Gong Protection Act. And this is the second time we've done it, but this time we can only get one congressman. We wanted to wait for bipartisan, but it's just not happening. It seems like every time we get this, another catastrophe happens in the world. It just takes the emphasis away from this. And then all the politicians are running around, oh, we're so busy with COVID. We're so busy with Russia. It's going to start the third world war. China is going to Taiwan. It's almost coincides exactly with this. Well, it is. If you look at the spiritual, of course it is. It's the, whatever we call it, the interference of stuff you can't see. It's very, it's true. So anyway, we have it now and I'm here and no one's going to stop this, but we do need democratic, we need democratic co-sponsors. And we probably have one in San Diego. We're not sure, but anybody, you know, or even if you just write your name and your district down here, we'll separate them out and we'll send them. We know all the legislative assistants. I know almost everyone in California. We've done this for a lot of years. And they asked me in San Diego, I said, well, this is amazing. You know, it was a Vietnamese legislative assistant. He's very pro, he's very pro, you know, against Chinese government. And his Congressman was very interested in this, but he said, wait a minute, we don't have that many constituents calling about this. I know it's a good thing, but I just need other people at least because they tally up a phone call that counts this much, an email counts this much, a text counts this much, and they tally it up because we know after passing four resolutions, you get to understand how it works. So this is a really good thing. If you could sign this tonight, basically says that the legislation would direct the Secretary of State to determine whether the Chinese government's persecution of Falun Gong constitutes crimes against humanity or genocide under the Eli Wiesel Genocide and Atrocities Prevention Act, require a report on the CCP's organ transplant policies and practices, impose asset blocking and visa prohibition on Chinese persons the President determines to have directly or indirectly engaged in the involuntary harvesting of organs within the People's Republic of China. Doesn't say, well, it doesn't matter, just harvesting of organs in general, express a sense of Congress that the United Nations Human Rights Council should issue a formal condemnation of the People's Republic of China for its persecution of the Falun Gong. I mean, that's a huge slap in the face. If we could actually get them to do that, it would hit them so hard. And the one thing that makes this really good for us is that they're so terrified of their people finding out about this. That's the one reason why I think they swept it under the rug even more than the world finding out. Because if enough of their people find out that they're killing the Han Chinese, these are not marginalized groups. These are not Uyghurs. These are not Tibetans. These are not Christians. These are Han Chinese practicing Falun Gong. It's the real deal. It's the elite of the elite, right? And if they are people find out about it, all the lies the Chinese Communist Party ever told them are going to dissolve. They're going to rise up. And right now they just locked up 32 million people, like boarded them in their homes, nailed them shut with no food or nothing in like three cities because of COVID. And they've done it to other major cities every time there's another COVID. You don't think those people hate the Communist Party? It's a tipping point right now. But the more we work, the more work we do and keep pushing this, the more we go around with petitions. And don't think just one right thought, one good thought about how evil they are and how this will help the world. Those right thoughts won't end up helping the world. So anyway, I'm sorry I took the talk so long, but if you guys have any questions. Thank you. Yeah, I think it's very important for us to keep talking about these subjects. COVID or this or that, you know, this is not easy. You guys are like true pioneers. I mean, to be able to get to this lecture. I know. I really like small groups because we can ask and we can talk about whatever we want. I remember years ago, I gave a talk to like 80 people. And at the question session, everyone just looked at each other. They did not ask anything. And then after the talk, they came in. Oh, I have a question. I was like, you know, I thought it was stupid. Didn't have a lot to say other than, you know, other than coming here tonight, I wasn't aware any of this was going on. And it's been very informative. Thank you so much. Yeah, I'm glad that that's just like, you know, I'm not surprised. Many, many audience told me that. I think especially because the mainstream media do not tell this. It's really important for us to tell our friends, our neighbors, our colleagues. Because that's what the Communist Party doesn't want us to know. And I believe in grassroots efforts. Like, you know, I'm nobody like there's no organization supporting me. It's just something I do outside of my everyday work. I do it by myself. And every year, I gave about 50 talks different groups. And I think we can all make a difference by spreading the word in the community about how the Communist Party infiltrating into the United States and taking away our freedom little by little. What's called the Jen Chen Ren art exhibit, which I'll have a lot of paintings in my clinic. So later after the talk, or whenever you want, you can go take a look. They're pretty telling of what happened in the labor camps. And they're directly from people who are in China and have very bad problems with the Chinese government pertaining to Falun Gong and the persecution or this one lost their parents. And these are real pictures. They're not made up. And that's probably one of the reasons you probably didn't realize what's going on, because people were also disconnected from one another, especially with the pandemic. And that's the worst thing we need. We need to support each other, we need to, you know, to inform each other, we help each other, and we need to get close to one another, because we're going to need each other, we need each other right now. And we need to realize that we're one great big world, we're all connected, we're energy. And if one part of it's suffering, the rest of it is suffering. It's just a matter of being aware and being connected. And you can do this through meditation, you can connect with the world and the universe through meditation. And our meditation is free. So my question is, in regards to spreading the word, like when we talk to our co-workers, our classmates, and people we come across in our daily life, how do you even bring this up? And like, do you have any advice on what to say, how to use it, and how much actually we should say? That's a very important question, because I have been doing this for years. So I want to share my personal experience. And I just use the various person to person, because every individual is different. Every individual is different. For example, like, my liberal friends, right, like someone, you know, my friends in college, because they were so brainwashed, they always think China is great. And you can't criticize China, like, you know, like, they wouldn't tolerate anything criticizing China. And they love Chinese culture. And I also have quite a few topics about Chinese culture. And I always tell them, like, all these brilliant ancient history, do you know, in the Cultural Revolution, they were all destroyed? You can't see this in China anymore. They have some replicates, but the original pieces were gone during the Cultural Revolution. And, you know, fortunately, some of them were taken to Taiwan before the Communist Party took over. And from there, I can talk about the Communist Party, the atrocities in the history. And these are all real. Like, they don't know it's real. They just don't, you know, pay attention to it, because the university, they don't want to highlight it. But when we have this subject, we started the conversation, I can tell them about the Cultural Revolution, the persecution towards the intellectuals. And I can tell them, this is still happening. Just think about all these Uyghur scholars, if they speak the truth, they got detained. Falun Gong practitioners, many of them are, like, famous scholars in China, they were detained because of their, you know, their spiritual practice. And then they would start to think about it. And, you know, that, I would say, like, they are probably those are the most challenging scenarios. But, like, there are also some people, like, you know, nowadays, for the Beijing Olympics, everyone's talking about human rights in China, right? That's why we are boycotting it. So, yeah, like, you know, but I think if you have it in your mind, you want to tell them something, and, you know, just keep the conversation going. And I think, eventually, we're going to touch the subject. And I believe, I truly believe that everyone, like, you know, majority, majority of people, they are very kind. They're good people. Like, you know, they just don't know. It's just like how I argued with my American friends in 1995, that there was no massacre, I said. I argued with them. I broke into tears. Like, you know, it was, it was horrible. And, but it was great, because that really woke me up from the propaganda. So, I think, like, we just need to keep our heart open, like, to keep the communication going on. And, and, like, whenever we have an opportunity to talk with someone, and introduce them to the Epoch Times, yeah. You really have the will, and you really want to tell people. They'll be in the conversation. There'll be a break. You'll, I just go to people someday, and I'm like a little hesitant. I don't want to, like, when I get gas, I'm like, well, should I give them a flyer? And sometimes I will. And they'll be like, oh my goodness, I was just reading about this. Is it true? Like, just my presence there, I was meant to be there at that exact moment to give a flyer. You have to start understanding everything's synchronistic, especially in this work. So, if you have the will. And there are many opportunities you can take, like this one, right? You can bring your friends to listen to a seminar, to learn something different about China, and they'll see the art exhibition about the truthfulness, compassion, tolerance is banned in China, of course. And also, I want to tell you that I'm working on a film screen in Pasadena. That's where I live. So, we talk about how Hollywood is completely infiltrated, bought by China, by Chinese government. So, one way we can counteract it is to support independent filmmakers who produce films about human rights in China. And now there is such a film coming to Pasadena, the Mill Cinema Theater. It's called On Silence. It will be shown for a whole week from the coming Friday, January 21st to January 27th. The Mill at Pasadena. Yeah, it's a feature film. So, you can bring a friend and say, let's see a film. Even if they are afraid, I would say the cinema is doing quite well in social distance and wearing masks. And I will be there on Friday evening. If people are concerned about masks, I'm going to hand out some N95 masks at the cinema. Just make people feel good about it. Not for my medical work at all, but if you want me to be on the mail. If you're not on the mail, and we can have some fun lectures also about Chinese culture. I can tell more about them. So, any more questions? Or maybe we can explore the room for the arts and find out more about newspaper and check out the book. And thank you very much for Dana for making this happen. Thank you.