CONGRESS ZERO SEATS: Amit Shah Joins PM Modi In Mocking Rahul Gandhi Over MLC Election Rout

The BJP and its allies have dominated the latest round of the MLC elections, winning 16 of the 28 seats across four states, and they have retained their edge in Uttar Pradesh. While in Karnataka, the BJP and its ally JDS have won all four seats, leaving the ruling Congress empty-handed. And yet two results that stand out. Congress's lone win in Nagpur, which is an RSS stronghold and the home turf of Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis, and the Samajwadi Party's victory in Varanasi, which is the Prime Minister's Lok Sabha constituency. But beyond the scorecard, the results have also triggered a political battle over the ballot papers. Now, these MLC elections that were conducted using ballot papers, the very system that the opposition led by Rahul Gandhi has been demanding a return to. And the BJP is using the results to question that demand. It started with the prime minister taking a swipe at the Congresses who are showing the irony. The BJP argues is that the Congress won just one seat in the elections conducted using ballot papers. the very system that the opposition restores, wanted to be restored. And the Prime Minister's question was pointed, saying that guess how many seats did the Congress party win? Meanwhile, taking on the same leg is the Home Minister Amit Shah, who joined the attack taking a dig at Rahul Gandhi over the opposition's demand for the CEC's resignation. Amit Shah asked whether the Congress leader would now demand the resignation of ballot boxes themselves. And other leaders from the BJP have also chimed in, training their fire on the Congress. What Rahul ji says, all the leaders of Congress agree with it. And because of this, Congress is going on a rampage today. And Rahul Baba's father kept on saying that Congress will end. See, that is the decision of the elections. But they used to do ballots, but they have become zero in the ballots. So they should know their status. The people do not like those who spread injustice. who are trying to spread the one-day rule in Delhi, the public is not liking them. There were 28 seats in the ballot paper. Out of those, Congress got only one seat. That too with a slight margin. Uttar Pradesh has zero, Bihar has nothing, Karnataka has its government, there's nothing. Even after taking the ballot paper, out of 28, only one seat is given to Congress. Will Congress now accept it? Now, the BJP's counter argument is that the problem is not with the machines or the method of voting. It is the Congress leadership, in particular, Rahul Gandhi. Now, its argument is that that changing the voting method will not change the Congress's electoral fortunes. But the Congress party president, Mallikarjun Kharge is doubling down. Despite the party's poor show in the MLC elections, Kharge has renewed the demand for ballot papers and challenged the BJP not to let its victory get to its head. And his dare is, if the BJP is so bolstered by these results by ballot papers, then why not hold the assembly elections and the Lok Sabha elections in the future on ballot paper? There are people to support and that ego should not be there in BJP that they have done very well. Okay, if that is the case, let them dissolve the parliament and go on ballot paper. Now the Congress has a result of its own to point to, which is Nagpur, the party that won the graduate's MLC seat in RSS stronghold on the Chief Minister's turf. And while the BJP points to its overall tally, the Congress is holding up Nagpur as a reminder that the result did not go in the way of its rival everywhere. And this is what they are now subjecting to its lone victory. Sir, now the MLC election results are out. Even in Nagpur, we have seen that the Congress party has secured... of RSS and Mr. Nitin Gadkari has been MLC on this seat for 24 years and now the Congress has won. So the message to Mohan Bhagwat is very clear from Nagpur and from Varanasi the message to Narendra Modi is very clear. But Narendra Modi has become so childish now, he couldn't even wait for the results. He jumped the gun and now he's made a fool of himself. People are laughing at him. This is what he has reduced himself to. We feel very bad for the prime minister. Now with the reactions that have been coming in in Uttar Pradesh, let's take a look as far as the Samajwadi Party is concerned, it has added another result to the point, and that is of the seat of Varanasi, Prime Minister's Lok Sabha constituency, the BJP winning six of the 11 MLC seats in the state, while the Samajwadi Party winning five, and in Varanasi in particular, the Samajwadi Party retained the teacher's seat and its candidate in the graduates' constituency. That has built a considerable lead over the BJP leader, who conceded defeat even before the official counting was completed. Now, Samajwadi Party Chief Akhilesh Yadav has also alleged that Counting had been delayed and the victory certificate was withheld. The people of the BJP are very upset and disappointed and they are forcing the youth not to take part in any kind of protest or protest. The BJP is trying to see any kind of protest or protest as violence. So let's open this up while we continue to debate and discuss as far as the MLC gains and losses for all of the political parties. And this is a messaging that has now come across when it comes to a certain party setting a national narrative versus when it comes to the election results. Let's introduce Dr. Kaushal Kant Mishra, spokesperson of the BJP, Krishna Hegre, spokesperson of the Shiv Sena Shinde faction, Arshpreet, spokesperson of the Congress, Pooja Mishra, spokesperson of the Samajwadi Party, Clyde Castro joining us from the NCP SP side. Thank you very much everyone for taking out your time. Dr. Kaushal, let me begin with you. Yes, big gains for the BJP, but how are you now looking as far as these election results are concerned? Yes, MLC election process is different, but in the manner in which the results have come, Big gains for the BJP somewhere, but two big losses as well. How are you looking at these results, sir? Amita, currently the whole nation is there on the issue of Amit. In my opinion, this has confirmed that Congress has no place. Till the time, whatever the results are there, Congress is zero. And Rahul Gandhi is trying to make fool of their own allies to become big brother of their own allies. They are nothing else. now there is ballot paper and all their allies are happy with whatever the results come so there is no problem of eccec now there is no question about election procedure because everybody is winning except congress and mr rahul gandhi is is out of country for in the search of some documents which was asked by the Rashtrapati Ji I think they must have find some document and they they should give to the President of India because Rahul Gandhi after meeting President of India himself came out and said to the media that Rashtrapati Modi Ji asked for the documentation saboot saboot toh leke aayi honge mujhe lagta hai toh ab dena chahiye but woh nahi karenge kyun kyun ki 1st November ki rally unne decide kar rakhi hai kyun kyun ki unne desh se koi concern nahi hai they are trying to make just fool of their own allies that he is the big brother he has the legacy of the running government of India and that is why he is a big brother otherwise you can see whatever the results are there congress is zero this is the reality of congress it is not us it is for nation it is for everybody and their own allies that where the congress stand this is a big question for Congress. We are happy whatever the results are there. Somewhere gain, somewhere win. That's part of any election or any game. I'm going to come to Nagpur and Varanasi also, Dr. Kaushal. But let me take an opening statement from Arshdeep. Arshdeep, as Congress, is it fixated when it comes to BJP's losses? But what about its own? Any introspection? Thank you very much. Number one, the Bharatiya Janata Party really ought to introspect because one, they have lost Nagpur and second, they have lost Varanasi. A big congratulations to you. And Nagpur happens to be the home turf of the RSS and Varanasi happens to be the home turf of the prime minister of the country. Now, my request to the Bharatiya Janata Party is I congratulate you on the amount of arrogance and ego and attitude that you bring on with this loss, which happens to be a big loss and the Bharatiya Janata Party commenting on ballot papers. See, number one, I questioned the Bharatiya Janata Party spokesperson when Mr. Advani had questioned the EVMs. When the Bharatiya Janata Party was losing state election after state election and had called for an alternate, had called for the ballots. Was Mr. Advani wrong? Number two, as far as the ballots go, let's talk of Maharashtra also. We won three seats there. The MBA won three seats. My request to the Bharatiya Janata Party is, they you have been shown the door. They're also the Bharatiya Janata Party's chief minister, Mr. Farnavis, even had to delete his tweet. What happened? Was it too soon to have jumped to a conclusion? Was it for the Bharatiya Janata Party? Number two, my request to the Bharatiya Janata Party is with regards to Mr. Modi's confidence in ballot papers. Will the Bharatiya Janata Party welcome ballot papers for Lok Sabha elections as well as Rajya Sabha elections, if that is the amount of confidence you have? And number two, I don't understand the logic of the BJP spokesperson, him saying that this is a verdict of the people. Brother, only registered graduates and teachers have voted in this election. Only they could have voted in this election. So less than 1% have voted. But the BJP wants to present as if it is the result of 100%. I mean, look at the double standards of the Bharatiya Janata Party. less than 1% vote, but they show it to be the verdict of 100% people of the entire country. So my request to the Bharatiya Janata Party is we all saw what happened at the time, last point, we all saw what happened at the time of Chandigarh Mayor poll, where the ballots were being defaced by the presiding officer, the Supreme Court after that had pulled him up, and the Supreme Court even said the death of democracy took place that day. So we don't want lectures on the Bharatiya Janata Party. We know how you run things, we know your modus operandi and now that you've lost Varanasi and now you need to introspect you've nowhere mentioned Karnataka till now I'm just going to take opening statements from everyone then I'll come to that question as well because there seems to be a contradiction when it comes to your own minister coming in from the Karnataka Sarkara. Let me bring in an opening statement from Pooja ji as well Pooja ji, who are you proud of in UP? Because Congress party is congratulating you as far as the Varanasi victory is concerned, what are we now looking at? out of 11 seats, we have won 5 seats and out of these 5 seats, earlier we had already had 3 seats. One was from Varanasi and this time we have won the 2 seats from the Varanasi as well and there is a phrase old habit dies hard and we witnessed that here in MLC election as well. In the election of Agra elections, there was re-voting of 3 votes and there was re-counting despite of our candidate won, Asto Sinha ji, he won the elections. Despite of that, the BJP didn't agree to accept the results. They went for recounting and today morning again, our candidate won. We have Asto Sinha ji as MLC. And in Agra, also Akash Agarwal ji, he even cried. His clothes were torn out. Everything, BJP did everything he could do to go for unfair means. Despite of that, Samajwadi Party and the Samajwadi Party workers, the PDA, Prahadi, We were fighting with the government alongside with the election commission. And that resulted, our hard work resulted in that victory, which we have gained. I believe Akhilesh Yadav also put out a post saying that there was deliberate slowing of the counting as well. Because the voting that happened sometime back, but it's taken considerable time for the results. No, it happened during the counting of Agra as well. The counting was stopped for a few minutes and then slow counting was done. And even in the Varanasi as well. That's why I said that it won't happen. The guy is hard. Because the BJP, even if I go for Chor Chori Sajai, but Hera Feri Senai, this was ballot papers, you know, voting. Despite of that, BJP was under. No, but my main question, Pooja ji, was ke aap kista padla bhaari hai? Because seats sharing with the Congress party obviously will come out to be as a sticking point. I'll just come to that. I'll just come to that. I think the media houses and BJP need not to worry about our allies. We know but we will go for a formula. Our factor is to win the upcoming 2027 election. No matter whether it is 60-40 formula, 70-30 formula, 80-20 formula, 50-50 formula. The formula which will result into victory, we will go for that formula. Well, we will see how the parties, if they are in the same page, you know that is more important. Now, let me bring in Mr. Clyde Castro as well. Sir, as far as the undivided NCP making big gains earlier now, in certain way, we are looking at as far as the Mahayuti is concerned when it comes to facing setbacks. And these are, as we've been mentioned, when it comes to home turf of the chief minister, also when it comes to the RSS headquarters. Now, as far as the gains that the NCP has been making, what are you now looking as far as this alliance in Maharashtra is concerned? Well, we are doing very well. The Mahavikasana Aghadi is together. We are working, I mean, congratulations to the Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh, the way they have done things. And also to the Congress to come back. I mean, you know, Devendra Fadnavis put capital letters zero, you know, thinking that he has already won in Nagpur and the Congress to bounce back. And, you know, have a fabulous victory like that. Congratulations to our partners. And we won two seats also in the MLC election. So I think we are doing very well. We are working very together. I mean, my friend Krishna Hegde is already here and he's going to share a lot of things about what has happened. But let me tell you something. What I'm finding is very strange now is that the Mahayuti, since morning, I mean, unnecessarily the Bharatiya Janata Party is blaming the Eknath Shinde faction. I mean, they're blaming them for the loss. I don't think it's the Eknath Shinde faction is to be blamed for the loss in the Bharatiya Janata Party. Because Bharatiya Janata Party themselves was so overconfident and so arrogant that I'm sure they made the Eknath Shinde faction lose. And let me tell you one thing, the Ajit Pawar faction of the NCP also said that the Bharatiya Janata Party did not give them all the influences and did not work together. Had they worked together, they would have won the election handsomely. They said that the India bloc, we are all together, we work very hard. You know, congratulations to all of us who work together. We are doing very well. And I think this will set the tone. I know it's just the graduates, you know, election and the teachers and everything. But this sets the tone for the future elections to come. The way we are working together, we are a strong unit. And we'll show from here on that we will win many elections together. All right. Krishna Hegde ji, sir, your opening statement. I mean, here the NCP-SP leader is suggesting that there seems to be some power tussle within the Mahayuti, sir. There is no power tussle within the Mahayuti. But yes, in many seats, we had a friendly fight. and therefore in Maharashtra it was 3-2 but all over India the Congress won only one seat out of 28 and that too in Nagpur which is Abhijit Wanzari last time Abhijit won by 19,000 votes and this time he won by only 3,200 votes it was solely his victory because even last time he had retained the seat in Nagpur and to say that you know he defeated the BJP in the Bastion He has won it earlier as well. His father was also elected as an MLA. And congratulations to all the winners, all the 28 who won, irrespective of the party. The Congress also lost four sitting MLCs, possibly in Karnataka, a state where they have their own government. I think that is where they should introspect. Because one out of 28 voting in a ballot paper, and that's what Congress has been asking for, has shown that congress is nowhere in the field even Sharad Pawar saab's party or the samajwadi party did so well in these elections but the congress has still drawn almost a blank with one seat Abhijit Wanzari and i must say that you know we are working hard we did have friendly fights with the Bharatiya Janata Party in Maharashtra but but i think we have already won four big elections in Maharashtra with the Bharatiya Janata Party as our ally and in the forthcoming elections we are sure that whatever differences there are at the local level that will be you know cleared up and we will fight with the Bharatiya Janata Party and the NCP Ajit Pawar together as one force Alright. Dr. Kaushal Ji you know the question that has now been raised on part of the Congress that if you have so much faith in the ballot paper so why not have the assembly elections and the Lok Sabha elections also on ballot paper. Coming to you, Ashwini. Coming to you. And what about Mr. Advani's statement? When Mr. Advani gave the statement, at that time, Supreme Court has not examined the EVM. And Supreme Court has not given any clearance to EVM. Currently, the status has per... What is this? What is this nonsense? Where recounting was ordered... Please, one by one. That had also never happened before. Don't become Rahul Gandhi, please. Dr. Kaushal, please complete your point. Be yourself. Because he is interjecting now. I have not said anything. He is behaving like Rahul Gandhi. Please complete your point, sir. I am saying, when Lal Krishna Advani Ji has raised this issue, at that time, it was not cleared by Supreme Court. Now, EVM is cleared by Supreme Court. It is authentic method. Nobody is able to hack that EVM till date. When they have called at election commission, nobody has visited. Now, the President of India is waiting for Mr. Rahul Gandhi, so that he can bring some saboot from Vietnam but he is not coming. And Congress, Gandhi, this election result shows the Congress party is like a parasite. No, but do you have in ballot papers now or not, sir? Obviously, no. Why? We are 140 crore democracy. How many months will become? And if we are not using technology, we are not going on the path of Mr. Rahul Gandhi. It is advanced technology. There is no proof that it is tampered. There is no documentation. Supreme Court has affirmed it. What is the role of going back to ballot paper? Yes, Ashpreet, stop. My request is... Mr. Rahul Gandhi, please. Dr. Kaushal, let's hear the other side as well. Let's hear what the Congress party has to challenge to say to the BJP. Yes, Ashpreet. First, my objection is to the word parasites being used for the principal opposition of the country. We are representatives of the people we are the principal opposition we are the voice of the people and you call us parasites you call the voice of the people parasites this is extremely unfortunate and he should apologize he should be taken to task for it number two let's not make it personal let's let's let's just keep it to the you know mlc elections and what exactly is the messaging coming from that let's not take it personal yes second of all my request to the party and the party spokesperson is when i talked of mr advani he said there's an order of the honourable supreme court there is also an order of the supreme court where it ordered recounting of the evm and when the recounting was done the results changed the person who was declared the winner after recounting was found to be the loser and the person who was declared the loser after recounting so you believe that as far as ballot papers is concerned it is a more authentic way of winning elections or not have you forgotten when it comes to the time of booth capturing Ashpreet my request is when it comes to the elections the Bharatiya Janata Party's spokesperson could not even answer a simple question why did Mr. Fernandes have to delete his tweet because he lost his home turf because Nitin Gadkari ji lost his home turf because RSS uh RSS's home turf was also lost the fact of the matter here is that the Bharatiya Janata Party is now embarrassed the The Bharatiya Janata Party doesn't know what to say about it. Forget the Bharatiya Janata Party. Forget the Bharatiya Janata Party. Let's talk about the Karnataka, you know, Congress government in the state. How many seats have you won there? If you're talking about the home turf, then it is your own government which is ruling the state, isn't it? Now, what's bigger, the state government or the centre government? The Prime Minister, Mr. Modi's seat. Varanasi has gone. Varanasi has gone from the Bharatiya Janata Party's hands. I want to tell the Bharatiya Janata Party Mr. Modi's handle had a tweet I can't believe that was the Prime Minister's tweet the kind of language that has been used, the kind of words that have been used were there on a Prime Minister's handle my request to the Bharatiya Janata Party is you really need to pick up I will come back to that question I can see how you are in a way trying to deflect but I will come back to that very question and I will come to you on the statement that Mr. Satish Chakravarty has also made today let me come to Clive Ji Clive Ji, what is your take on this as far as vote margin coming down of the Congress candidate? Because that's the only victory that the Congress party has maintained. You know what, the Bharatiya Janata Party, when they lose, they start talking about averages, percentage and everything. A victory is a victory. Even their side, they come down from votes in an election. A victory is a victory because they are losing that coming up with all these things. I want to say three things. One is, you know, they keep saying that Congress has won one seat out of 28. See, everybody fought in alliance. So calculate those seats and look at that. We can also start picking and talking about BJP winning or losing. Listen, please don't interject. Okay. Secondly, why is the Bharatiya Janata Party so afraid of the ballot paper? Every day they are trying to prove the opposition wrong. Now prove us wrong by holding the elections in ballot paper. Come on, go ahead and prove us wrong. We are saying, let's hold the ballot paper. Go ahead and prove us wrong. Thirdly, I want to make a request to you and to your guest relations people who are working there that please call people on the guest along with us who maintain decorum and decency and do not use derogatory words for that i've interjected on time sir yes please i request you yes i've made that request on time because we also can speak but we no of course of course when it comes to decorum that needs to be maintained i agree with that and i've interjected on time let me come back to Mr. Prakash Hegde on this sir when it comes to in totality the victory should be seen or as far as when it comes to individual political parties, their own performance needs to be seen? No, I would like to correct my dear friend Clyde, first of all, that we did not fight as an alliance. We had a friendly fight in some seats and that cost the alliance dear. If we would have fought an alliance, possibly we would have won those seats also. But Abhijit Vanzhari won a good battle in Nagpur and I must congratulate him for that. He has won last time as well, as I said. but this time out of 28 seats the NDA alliance throughout the country won 16 and the MVA Bandhan won 12 and the last time it was 50-13 in 2020 so I think still we've scored over them this is a preliminary election but it is also an important election because it represents both teachers and graduates and let's see there are many more elections coming up whether it's Punjab or UP and I'm sure that But the representation, Mr. Krishna Yegde, is very, very less. When it comes to the graduate teachers, in a way, as far as the representation is concerned, when it comes to voting, the Congress is of the opinion that that doesn't automatically reflect or translate when it comes to a people's narrative. No, I don't agree with that because graduates and teachers both are thinking people and what they think in society is very, very important. It may be a small number, but election is an election. like one of my esteemed panelists said that election is an election and every victory is a victory and therefore here also we have scored 16-12 and I think it's a good victory for the NDA Yes Pooja ji, what's your take? Because as far as Uttar Pradesh is concerned we are looking at a big fight in 2027 Yes, our focus is on the election in 2027 and I just wanted to mention that when allies of BJP and NDA they can go for friendly fight. When it's allies of India, when India is blocked, then it's not friendly fight. That is conflict. There should be a single definition for you know whether friendly fight or whether it's a conflict. No, that has happened as far as the elections are also concerned where Congress party is in alliance, say, with the left in Kerala. But we'll have a different opinion and we'll fight against each other. That's the same case what happened in Punjab as well. Yes, that's what I'm saying. And in West Bengal. India is an ally. yes, when it's India bloc, it's conflict. When it's NDA allies, it's not conflict, it's friendly fight. We witnessed that in the case of Jammu and Kashmir election as well. Then also the BJP allies went for vote against each other and it was a friendly fight. And when it comes to India BJP, they are having conflict in between. And right now also, even the spokesperson said that Samajwadi party won much, you know, high number of seats rather than congress samajwadi contested on 11 seats mind that on the whole of the 11th seat congress was with allies congress didn't you know give any candidature they were supporting us if you go for uh you know counting the MLAs you can't just you know deduct the five MLAs which uh got elected from Samajwadi Party we had the support from the Congress and we are going into the we are seeing watching, want to see the bigger picture of Uttar Pradesh. That is 2027. And we are focusing on that. Our every election, every work is focused on the upcoming elections. And BJP now has won. I'm congratulating, you know, Shinde Hegdeji said that we have won this number of seats. We are ahead of India. Okay, congratulations. Many, many congratulations. You have got the trust over the ballot paper. Just go for the upcoming elections. I have also congratulated the SP. I have never said anything wrong against them. You know, whoever are the good candidates, whoever the voters think can represent the people. And, you know, it's part of democracy. One party has to win, one party has to lose. But what I am trying to say here is we cannot undermine any election because it's a teacher's election or a graduate's election or the numbers are very small. They are thinking people and I think to think that way that this is a very small election is to undermine the thinking people of the country. All right. Dr. Kashyap, what's your opinion as far as when it comes to the opposition is concerned? They are now thinking that they are strong enough when it comes to taking on the BJP and putting up a united front. Because as far as when it comes to the electoral debacle for the Congress party in particular is concerned, they are still going ahead with the Chalo Delhi march a mock impeachment is also going to happen Amita that is the main question in this election nobody is doubting the election commission but even then they are going for Chalo Delhi march against the CEC this is the double standard when they win please please please Pooja ji please in the Agra elections we doubted the election commission in the Varanasi elections we doubted it in the case of Pilibhit There are two SDMs and one computer operator got suspended. Why did they get suspended? All right, all right. Take in your point, Pooja ji. Here is Dr. Kaushal, the Samajwadi Party saying, and this also came in from Akhilesh Yadav, saying that this is the time that the Election Commission proves its impartiality. Rahul Gandhi first proved there is some... Rahul Gandhi should bring all the document and saboot to court, Supreme Court and to the President. Pooja, what is this? What is this? I'm not even speaking on you. Pooja ji let him complete please One by one Yes Dr. Kaushal I don't understand my friend Mr. Spokesperson from NCPSP Was saying decorum should be maintained I don't see any decorum Because I have not said anything to anyone I use the word which is actual Let's stick to the debate I am losing time out here Amita this is not done Every time when I start Sir I have to start taking concluding statements already So please make your point I will interject everyone. Yes, please make your point. Again, I'm requesting you. That's the maximum that I can do. Yes, please. Amita, I am clearly saying that if they feel they are so strong, the public opinion is so much with them, then they should come and prove in the election. All the election happening, even after their vote show rally till today, everywhere, Andy Gatbanda is on the loser side. This is the fact. Whether it is the MLC election or even the upchanao of many places. Everywhere. And Congress is nowhere. Congress is surviving on the local parties and that is why Congress is a parasitic party. Political parasite of the India is Congress party. This is a real fact. They are surviving only on Samajwadi party and local parties. I think there could be a better way in talking about that. But Ashpreet, I am coming back to the Karnataka specific question. Mr. Satish Jharki Holi has come out to endorse the SIR saying that as far as those who were duplicate voters, who were bogus, who were fuzzy voters, they need to be weeded out as far as when it comes to such kind of practice that was there in the last 50 years and in a way has said that in the manner in which the exercise has been conducted, he has welcomed it. What is your take? Well, see, number one, there are two very important factors to this. First is the SIR that has been done, that has led to 13 crore voters being deleted. That's subjudice. That's the matter which is before the Supreme Court. I want a specific answer on Karnataka. One second. Does that not have an impact on the elections? Does that not have an impact on the results? So many people that would have voted in this election of MLC were not allowed to vote because of that. Matter is subjudice. Yes, they might get relief. Yes. But till then, the results are coming in. And till then, the people are being affected. my request there is very simple so is that why the congress didn't win any single seat in Karnataka one second the fact of the matter is that not a single person should suffer that he should not be reduced to a second class citizen when their fathers when their grandfathers have voted in the previous elections why should they not be allowed the same right number two they happen to be living in the country they happen to be earning he has also said about form 6 saying that as far as new electors are concerned it's a good way that our form 6 is there when it comes to also when it comes to the engagement of all of those whose names have been deleted Mr. B.K. Hari Prasad is of the opinion that those who have been deleted are eligible voters and in this manner to disenfranchise them My request is very simple since you asked me a specific question I'll answer your question through one line Many are people that have been deleted Many are people that have been deleted If they would have voted in this election the results would have been very very different Number two, my request is, everywhere, everywhere, nevertheless, the Bharatiya Janata Party lost Varanasi, nevertheless, they have lost Nagpur. This is the biggest imbalance. So vote-chori happens in Karnataka, but not in Varanasi and Nagpur. Okay, my request is this. I challenge the Bharatiya Janata Party, if they are so confident of ballot papers, and if they have won, so-called debate of... No, no, no, I want to understand the Karnataka question, please. You said you'll give me a specific answer. Tell me about the Congress's performance in Karnataka I am telling you the performance of the Congress party Accept our challenge I tell the Bharatiya Janata Party spokesperson Say that you welcome the ballot papers For the Lok Sabha election For the Vidhan Sabha election And you are not afraid of it You are not scared of it Say it Your own leader used to ask for ballot papers Krishna Iyengar ji I am not getting a specific answer I have tried multiple times But specifically when it comes to the losses When it comes to the opposition automatically it is deemed as vote chori No, Arshpreet is a knowledgeable spokesperson but I must remind him that it is the Congress who introduced the EVM and now they are saying you know the EVM is an issue also in uh you know 2026 the sir has been introduced and it was there in so many states and so many states went to poll and at that time they did not go against the sir and now they are going against the sir the matter is sub judice they should wait for the Supreme Court decision to come in moreover the intensive revision was held way back in 2002 or 2004 and after that there have been so many illegal voters so many who have shifted residence so many who are dead and so many who are duplicate voters so there has to be a you know path correction which was required and that's why the government is doing it whoever name has been deleted they're getting a month or two to again file appeals and come in Maharashtra if there are two crore voters who are deleted then in the last one month why only not even eight lakh people have come to register and appeal so that is something which has to be looked into either there have been a lot of duplicate voters who are voting in two states whether there have been illegal voters this is for the you know that for the election commission to decide and that is an autonomous body to link the election commission with any party I think is very unfair because you have seen exactly how the last six months have panned out and how exactly is the opposition is now planning to put up a united front we are looking at you know when it comes to the upcoming marches and rallies that are also being planned, sir concluding statement please yeah my my thing is you know what my buddy Krishna just said that you know that it is an autonomous body the election commission that's my question if that is an autonomous body the minute we say something about the election commission the BJP starts doing thunder, starts dancing and starts excusing themselves and trying to say that the election commission is not doing this, not doing that. Let them answer where is Gyanesh Kumar? Where is he hiding? Why doesn't he come out and speak? Every time we say one word about the election commission, the party, Janata Party starts jumping and starts... But there has been a detailed affidavit in the Supreme Court submitted by the election commission, right sir. Fine, fine. Listen, I know that. Amita, please don't remind me. I know that. What the affidavit came later on, after so long deliberation and everything, my point is very simple, straight forward point. If it is an autonomous body, why is the BJP getting affected so much by us questioning the election commission? Let them answer, let them comment. Let me take that concluding statement from Dr. Kaushal. Yes, because Mr. Clive, I think we are winner and Rahul Gandhi is directly saying that Gyanesh Kumar is working for BJP and that is why we are coming forward and saying there is no question we are winner And you said the umpire is wrong, so we are winner, we will oppose it. That is why we are coming forward. Can I ask you a question? Yes, please. You know, throughout the debate, anything we say, okay, you are just saying Rahul Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi all the time. Can I ask you one question? Yes, please. How is the weather in Delhi today? Is it hot, cold? What is it? You come to Delhi, you can come anytime. You want to put the blame on each other and the political parties, but yes, the matter is subjudiced. is... Sir, I have completely run out of time. Yes, just 10 seconds, Clyde, sir. Then I have to take a complete statement. What is the weather like in Delhi? Weather like is that BJP is going to win the next election. This is what is weather in Delhi. Thank you very much. I thought the weather is Rahul Gandhi will answer that. Thank God, at least he didn't answer Rahul Gandhi. Okay, okay. We'll carry on that. Pooja ji, concluding statement. Amita ji, BJP is trying to just cover up everything, saying that we have won number of seats, but the reality is that they have tried very hard. If our Prime minister lost his you know state his state his constituency it shows that the people has lost faith in the BJP and we are picturing into 2027 election congress and samajwadi party will be allies will contest the upcoming election that is exactly why i began my first question to you asking you know right after the samajwadi party victory that only time will tell krishna ji apologies sir completely run out of time thank you very much all of you for joining us here on the urban debate.