The SECRETS of IRON PALM Kung Fu EXPLAINED

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There are many interesting techniques in Chinese Kung Fu,
from light body skill, to eagle claw,
to the five finger exploding heart technique.
Okay, I don't know if that's a real thing,
but the specific skill I want to talk about today
comes from a special method of conditioning the hands
to be very hard and tough.
And that is, of course, iron palm.
It's called or iron sand palm in Chinese,
sometimes shortened to just
or in Cantonese.
And it's a technique that's had whole movies made about it.
Today, I'm lucky enough to have Ron Wheeler on the show, who
I met at the NTD Traditional Chinese Martial Arts
Competition this summer.
He trains in Jiao Gar Kung Fu, a southern style created
by five brothers known as the Five Tigers of Jiao Gar.
Yeah, I know, sounds like a movie, doesn't it?
Ten Tigers of Kwantung.
The style includes elements of several southern and northern
styles.
It's made up of Hung Ga, Choy Ga, and Bok Si Lung, or Northern Shaolin.
As well as some other interesting techniques.
We do have Tie Chong Iron Palm training,
and we also have Iron Jacket training.
So we're going to find out a little bit about Jiao Gar
before delving into the techniques I
was really interested in hearing about.
This is The Secrets of Iron Palm Explained.
Ron is a native of Washington, D.C.,
And he had the good fortune to train with Shifu Dean Chin.
Chin was born in Toisan in 1943, and he learned Hung Ga,
white crane kung fu, and paimei-style kung fu from an early age.
Yes, paimei is the villain from Kill Bill, but he's
also a real historical figure with a kung fu style named after him.
Chin then moved to Hong Kong in 1960,
where he started learning Jiao Gar, or in Mandarin it's called Zhou Jia,
basically the Jiao or Zhou family style.
At this time, he also learned Eagle Claw as well.
Chin came to the U.S. in 1966
and opened the first school teaching Jiao Gar Kung Fu in America.
Ron started training with him at his school in Washington,
D.C.'s Chinatown in 1981.
I'd heard Jiao Gar contains elements of both Northern
and Southern Kung Fu systems,
and this was confirmed to me in my interview with Ron.
Like, what are, like, the main moves and tactics that Zhao Ga uses?
You can tell the Zhao Gao form, we have a technique called Jin Sao,
which translates as circling hand.
So it starts off with a crane wing block or hop kick,
and then you circle in towards your waist, circle around again,
you grab, and then you pull your opponent in and punch.
That's a key signature move.
Also, the northern kind of jumps out at you.
so in the north you'd always see a maneuver
to block a punch where they'd block up and shoot out a punch
and so that maneuver is designed to
separate the rib cage and separate the muscles
of the rib cage exposing the rib and making it
more susceptible to actually break the rib on the punch.
If your arm is down your ribs
are going to be together but when you raise your arm up
you can actually use your fingers
and feel your ribcage start to separate.
Oh yeah, I feel it, yeah.
Once that's lifted up, then we punch.
So the opponent's arm, you're blocking it,
it's above your arm, isn't it?
And you're raising their arm up.
So the punch is coming here, I'm going to raise that,
I'm going to catch the punch, I'm going to raise the arm up.
Okay, yeah.
Separate and open up the ribcage even more,
and I'm going to deliver my punch.
That's a very common technique that you would see in Zhao Gao,
but that's something you would see in the north.
The south, they don't normally do that.
But it's when I ask about how power is generated in Zhao Ga
that he gets into some really interesting stuff.
How is power generated in your style?
Because I know in, you know, Hung Ga,
they have like the iron wire form
and the San Chin for like conditioning the body.
Do you have anything like that?
Any sort of like qigong or forms that condition?
We have formal qigong.
we have um we do have uh iron palm training and uh we
also have iron jacket training uh i have not
learned that i've not learned iron jacket i learned some iron palm what's
the iron palm training like
can you tell us about that or is that like secret
no it starts off basically like everybody i mean
um the only the only different style i've ever seen
that does iron palm is um it's called four
lower tigers Hung Ga in Cantonese you say i'll say four Hong Kong
and they have an additional strike
with their or additional movement
but basically if you if you start on on a bag and you go five
strikes you sit in your horse stance
and we do everything in a horse stance okay you strike your palm
back of your hand blade of your hand the heel of your hand
and then tiger claw and the only other
difference in uh four lower tigers Hung Ga their table
is on an angle it's not flat it starts on
an edge and the bag moves it's on like a roller
so you go do the same strike but as you do the
tiger claw you would push the bag forward
and then pull it back and then start over that's the only
difference oh yeah okay i see
but we have the same strike uh you know everybody one two three four
five and then you repeat and what's the bag
is it like gravel in the bag or do you start off with
beans and then you go
to so you can use iron filings you can use steel shots some people use
um some people do use gravel like you know
but mostly people use iron iron you know iron balls
or steel okay because yeah i've got one at home
that has like pea gravel in it um yeah i've heard
to be okay and do you use that medicine
as well afterwards always you did that always and then
you'll see food and then you go you know
the various stages of mung beans and the mung beans
get harder and as you get better with it oh
this is actually pushing your hands into a bucket of
beans right yeah tell it tell us about that so when i
was in the school steeple had three buckets
they were always set on an angle
of about 45 degrees okay they didn't have to like bend the
back so you can keep a good posture
and thrust your hands in so as opposed to sitting in your
horse and looking down
and maybe you you know he wants you he wanted your energy to be right
your energy flow has to be correct well
if your posture is over like this then obviously
it's off so by sitting in your horse and sitting straight
but having the uh the barrel he used to
use like like 10 gallon 10 gallon uh barrel
that you would find like in a commercial restaurant
where you get like, you know, 10 gallons of pickles
and then there's large buckets.
Yeah, so he would use those.
But he'd have it set at 45 degrees on the angle.
And so you sit in your horse and you thrust at 45 degrees
and you still get the same effect,
plus your breathing is going to be better
because you're not bent over.
And what effect does it have on your hands?
Like, what can you do afterwards with the palm?
Is it just like it really hurts when you hit someone?
Yeah, I mean, iron palm training never,
once you develop it
it never goes away
I mean you got to maintain it
but once you develop it
it never goes away
Paul Atkins
he was a senior instructor
in the school
and
but Paul really
was really
really good with it
and
when you normally
do a brick
any type of
breaking demonstration
normally
you'll see a brick
and then a space
and then a brick
and a space
well the bigger the space
the easier the break
still a good break
momentum right
yeah
so
if you have a brick
and this is the brick
and then I have
this much space and then
another brick. That's going to be a much easier
break because you have what we call progressive
collapse.
The smaller the space,
the harder the break.
What Paul would do when Steve was alive,
he would do arm-palm demo
and they would take six
cinder blocks, flat cinder blocks,
one on top of the other.
No space. I've got pictures
of him doing it. No space.
He's sitting in his horse stance. He's getting his
Qi together, you're breathing, hitting this Qi together.
All of a sudden, boom, one shot.
Well, hearing all about this stuff,
maybe we want to break out the gravel bag
and the dit da jiao medicine
and do some iron palm training myself.
Of course, I have learned it before.
If you want to learn it,
do make sure you seek the guidance
from a qualified instructor.
If you are interested in jiao ga kung fu,
you may want to check out Ron Wheeler's book too.
I have a copy.
It's a great read.
It has step-by-step guides to some of the forms
and routines from the system.
I will paste a link to the book on Amazon down below.
A big thank you to Ron for coming on the show.
So his book is pasted down below.
I'll put his YouTube channel on screen in just a moment.
He's got a lot of videos of him doing demonstrations of Jiao Ga.
And if you want to see the full uncut interview,
which is about half an hour long
and talks more about the style of Jiao Ga
and also the story of the Jiao Ga team from Ron's Shifu school
who went to Taiwan in the 70s and won a load of medals
at an international competition there
and even brought some Chinese audience members to tears
at the sight of a load of African-American guys
displaying the dedication and passion
to practice and preserve this style
of traditional martial arts.
I will put that on screen now,
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