Reform supporter defends party after 'racist' remarks captured on film
Oct 16, 2026
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AI GeneratedThe discussion centers on leaked recordings of Reform party members using \"degenerate\" language, including extreme racism and grotesque sexism. While a caller argues that public anger over immigration and government dishonesty is legitimate, the host emphasizes that there is a clear distinction between holding political views and expressing dehumanizing hatred or predatory thoughts.
There's a line in here that I want to walk with you
in our conversations this hour.
Racist language doesn't surprise me anymore.
Well, it never really did.
It shocks me, it displeases me, I don't like it,
I think it's appalling, but it doesn't surprise me anymore.
It wouldn't surprise me to hear it in other parties, to be honest.
It certainly doesn't surprise me to hear it in Reform,
but it wouldn't surprise me to hear it in other parties,
types of racism, or sexism.
But the reason I use the word degenerate in my conversation
with John is there are a couple of aspects of these clips.
And these are just the ones we have heard so far,
which really do tip over into degenerate language and dark stuff.
Literally drag them at their homes,
stick them on planes and come off to Pakistan.
Dragging people out of their homes and sending them back to Pakistan.
Think about that for a second.
you know if you know anything about history
and most of us do know something about history um
you don't ever want to be party as an individual
to scenes where people are dragged out of their
homes wherever they're sent to beyond
that point you don't want to be part of that that that is
degenerate thinking that is degenerate thinking it's
not just bad it's not just impolite it's not
just a little bit strong it's not just a bit of racism
which is bad enough it's degeneracy that's
what that is and it's alarming to me in the extreme
and also the the grotesque sexism that
we hear again i'm not surprised by sexist language i'm
on the receiving end of it all the flipping
time you know most women are that doesn't that wouldn't surprise anyone
but when a man who's
busy telling his mate he fancies a female colleague wraps
that thought that attraction up into the
idea of bathing his own daughter we tip back
into degeneracy if she was my daughter she could be
bathed on the first i'll wash it back through
this time that is what degeneracy is um and there's a
difference this isn't what Richard Tice would have you believe
that these aren't examples of the kind
of racist version of locker room talk
or the sexist version of locker room talk it's more
than that it's more than that and the anger in that the first man
who talked about well if they've
got an Asian name i don't even knock
on their door drag them out the house send them back to
Pakistan they kind of the the derision
and this and sort of his loathing in his voice was very
evident i think so Reform has a problem without
a doubt it has a problem and i for all the
difficulties we've seen in our country
in the last well forever we you know all countries have
difficulties and have people who are racist
and sexist and the rest of it i don't believe that
the vast majority of people in this country
and the vast majority of you listening to this program
are comfortable with what you've just heard you
might have issues around the numbers of immigrants
in this country that's fine perfectly
in perfectly legitimate political view to to state or social
view to state as well um you might have um issues
with uh what else did they allude to um you might
have issues even with the the makeup
of your community that you want a better balance in
particular areas um fine these are good they're perfectly normal views
but what we've just heard
there is not normal mainstream Britain i absolutely do not believe it
and therefore Reform if they want
to lead the country and run the country have
a problem Claire in Deptford hello hello um i think
that the vast majority of reform
and even restore voters are not racist but they are angry and that's
because the public has been put at risk by illegal
and mass legal immigration and the British people
are waking up to it um the government media police the legal system
and schools are all
pushing idealistic multicultural narratives
and denying and covering up real the real associated
problems and british people are becoming angry
when they find out they've been lied to what's
being denied the grooming gangs why has
the labour party why is it going to court to stop the crime
numbers by nationality
and immigration status being risk being released how dare they hide
that truth from citizens it needs to be released
to the citizens of this country and then you know
faced up to well i think what's happened
is that the mainstream media labour greens and conservatives
have very successfully managed to label reform as racist
and that's because it used to be that
a government's duty was to look after its citizens
and from decades ago left-wing woke liberalism
which was well-meant initially
but it's gradually given more than equal rights
and benefits to so many minorities of all sorts
and that sounds worthy
but it has come at more and more of a cost to everyone else
and all cultures have been lauded as equal
covering up any negatives
and our British culture has been denigrated
non-British cultures have become above criticism
and that's led to the rape gang cover-up
and shouts of racism being treated more seriously
than actual crime leading to issues like the Henry Novak tragedy.
Okay. Now, I don't agree with absolutely
everything you've just said there, Claire,
but everything you've just said there are perfectly cogent,
legitimate arguments to make.
I agree with some of what you said there, but not all of it.
But that doesn't matter. I'm just saying that there you have a woman,
you are a woman completely capable of making cogent arguments
and opening up a discussion.
that is very different from calling asian people
in an infestation parasites uh not even deigning
to knock on their door when you're campaigning
dragging people out of their homes and sending
them back to pakistan uh it's very different isn't it yes i agree
with that but it's when
people have been lied to by their government
and the truth is not being put out there so that
so that things can be analyzed
and issues are being covered up then it can push people into
racism against all that but that's still not acceptable
and and Claire lots of people have
been lied to by their government
and by authorities on any number of issues think of the post office
case for example worse than lied
to lives ruined it didn't it didn't turn them into beasts
they they tackled what had been done to them they
were rightly angry with the government
yeah and you have every right to be
but the government will release the figures then why
is Labour not releasing the figures okay that's
that's a good conversation in a different
conversation yeah if it turns if that anger turns
a person into i don't think it does turn people
into degenerates i think they were degenerates probably
to start with but somebody speaking
because because the language that man has used
those men have used is entirely different to the
language you were using even
though some of the things you're making uh points about are are in
the same area yeah we we have to treat people equally
and we must not deny but we must not
deny reality we need to call out bad behavior without fear
or favor and analyze whether any
cultures or nationalities are over represented
and address that and are you a Reform i am
what about what about the comment about
the bathing your own daughter because of sexual
attraction to somebody else i have to say i'm
so sorry i didn't hear i haven't heard the comments
made by them but i so i've called um literally i just caught
the end of everything well let me
tell you what he said yeah i just wonder
is there anything that will turn you off the reform party
This man.
Shall we play it?
Shall we play it to you?
OK.
Here we go.
Oh, s***, mate.
If she was my daughter,
it'd still be bath night on a Thursday.
God.
Oh, God, we're all going to end up in the papers.
So he knew what he was doing.
I couldn't quite hear that.
If she was my daughter...
It would still be bath night on a Thursday.
This was after he'd seen a woman he was attracted to,
a female colleague.
It would still be bath night on a Thursday.
If she was my daughter.
OK.
Oh, I see.
Oh, well, yeah.
I mean, that's obviously completely wrong.
But I don't know who said that.
I have met many reform candidates. A reform councillor.
A reform. OK, well, he he is obviously wrong. I haven't.
It's not as wrong as it's degenerate.
Properly. Yeah, that that sounds degenerate.
I don't know. I need to listen to the whole
the whole thing. People do make jokes.
You know that it could have just been a silly joke.
And I think also we've gone too far
with stopping people being having comedy about things.
is this comedy or is this degenerate have
a listen if it's an asian name i'm not even
knocking the door they are not voting reform i ain't wasting
my time he's trying to get re-elected
in an area he says has too many asian households look
at this one two three four five that one
might belong to him i don't know
but again this is just what we're infested with that's why they're
buying along here because
the houses have got big gardens they're absolutely parasites absolute
parasite you'd need a proper nuclear option like literally drag them
out their homes stick them on
planes and f*** them off to Pakistan
which you'll never do in a month of Sundays I'd be saying no
more than one percent of British population can
be non-white I see I hear I would say in response
to that we have many candidates in reform
who are of the minorities we have Zia Youssef we have
dweller braverman we have uh layla cunningham
and but a lot of a lot of minority candidates will not
raise their voice for reform even if they agree
with some of the policies because they're scared
of the reaction from their own communities
um and also anti-white racism is rising in this country
driven by the anti-colonialist
and dei project anti-semitism is rising driven by pro the pro
palestine propaganda
and also i don't think people are aware of the muslim brotherhood issue
it sounds like they are in this program no it's
not we they are aware of it and we talk about it
on this program and i intend to do so more
but claire thank you clearly uh you you will object
to some of those things
but they're not um they're not putting you off the party uh claire
in deptford thank you very much indeed
so these councillors and what you've heard from them a
couple of times now they are a few bad apples
or a symptom of a party that has a problem
Thank
you.

