Detroit Talk City | Fighting anti-semitism; Flock in Inkster

Thanks for joining us on this Tuesday, October 13th. I'm your host, Charlie Langton. Welcome to Detroit Talk City. All right, let's get right into today's topics. Our topics right here. Leo Terrell, you probably heard him on the Fox News channel or seen him there. Well, now he was appointed by the president to rid the country of anti-Semitism. Sheldon Freilich will also join him as well to do the same thing. all right and then we have later on in the show Mayor Brian Nolan he is from Inkster he's the mayor there he is one of the only people around here uh that have to do with Flock cameras Flock cameras in an era where most of the cities are getting rid of them he is keeping them we'll talk about that all right and of course the show is all about hearing from you we want to have a conversation. 313-765-8844. That is our number. If you'd like to text us, call us, you can do that as well. 892-4909-0290. That is our Zoom number. You can get into the Zoom room as well. You can hashtag us at Detroit Talk City as well. All right, let's get right into this. Leo Terrell is here and Sheldon Freilich over here. By the way, the president of the Zionist Organization of America. Michigan region thank you thank you I'm used to seeing you on Fox News yeah I went to the to the White House in the West and DC and working for the people of America you get a call from the president one day and say hey Mr. Terrell come and join me when the president calls you say yes Mr. President and that's what I did and I'm glad to be working for President Trump yes I do I have his number does he call you we talk where's last time you talked to him recently I'm a lawyer you No, I got to be vague. Recently, but we text quite often. So am I. I got to probe the question here. That's right. Hard to get it out. Look, I have a great relationship with the president, and that's one of the reasons why I left Fox News, one of the reasons why I'm proud to work for the Department of Justice, and that's why I'm here in Michigan, because he allows me to work on fighting, eliminating, reducing anti-Semitism, and that is a commitment by the president, by the AG Todd Blanche, and my direct boss Stanley Woodward. All right, let's talk about some of the things. I want to get to you because you have 15, 15 cities. Right. And by the way, this is the first this is the actual first stop, isn't it? Yeah. Right. Sheldon's first stop. Correct. All right. Anti-Semitism. Is it here in Michigan? Let me think about that. Yes. And it's here everywhere. And the problem is this. It's wrong. And there's not a question of left or right. Anti-Semitism is wrong. It's fundamental that every community, every religious group should enjoy this religious freedom. That's what makes this country great, and Jewish Americans are being denied that. Is it different than for Christian Americans, Black Americans, Muslim Americans? Are Jews singled out? Right now, yes. Jewish Americans are only 2% of the population. That makes 65% of the hate crime, the anti-Semitism, is disproportionate to the numbers, and there needs to be something done. That's why this president's doing something. Why do you think it's so high against Jewish people? Easy, because it's been normalized. Anti-Semitic rhetoric on social media has been normalized. It's been accepted. This president, this administration does not accept it. That's why we're going to start in Michigan and across this country. Sheldon, you're Jewish, aren't you? Yeah, I'm Jewish. Let me jump in for a second. Anti-Semitic rhetoric has been normalized on the college campuses throughout our country. University of Michigan, we've had so many incidents over the last several years. The University of Michigan in Ann Arbor is one of the top ten campuses for anti-Semitic violence and intimidation. Your partner here sent a letter to the University of Michigan about a year or so ago. And basically it was a threat that if they didn't clear up their anti-Semitic behavior, you'd yank their funding. Yeah, and that's the key here. Did they respond? Well, they didn't respond to that letter, but I'll tell you right now, they have tried to clean up their act, and it hasn't been successful. The University of Michigan is not successful? Well, I said they haven't cleared their act successfully because anti-Semitic conduct exists in Michigan. That's why we picked Michigan as the first stop. But, and I get that part, but the University of Michigan, I mean, it's a big university, it's a lot. Do you think that, are they in trouble of losing any kind of federal funding? Well, the last thing I'm going to do is discuss litigation or any type of action regarding a particular school. I will simply tell you this. But you're not happy with them, are you? I'm not happy with anti-Semitism anywhere, if it's in Michigan or anywhere, and the key here is to stop it, and it's not being stopped. What about other universities in Michigan? I would submit to you that anti-Semitism is everywhere in Michigan, and it should not be. Like, it's unfortunately everywhere, everywhere in this country, and the problem is this. Local administrators are not addressing anti-Semitism. That's why the federal government is here. It's good that you're here. I get that, but on a local level, because you can't look at every single college. Well, maybe you can. I don't know. Whose whose job is it to rid at least college college campuses that you brought up of anti-Semitism? The university administrations, they have an obligation under the Civil Rights Act to make sure that the environment is safe for the students. And especially and including Jewish students, Jewish students being singled out. Oh, absolutely. More so than others. Absolutely. Can I just say one thing? It's so important. I want those anti-Semites to stop hiding behind the First Amendment. It's OK to hate Jews, hate blacks. But when you take a rock or you stop someone's progress to go to school, that is not First Amendment protection. And that's what's happening throughout this country. Can I protest on the University of Michigan or Wayne State or Michigan State or any campus right now pro-Palestine and not run afoul of anti-Semitism? Yes, you can talk that. But if you stop a Jewish student's route to go to a library or a school, no, you cannot do that. and that's the failure that's where the anti-semitism takes place and you think that's what's going on oh let me think about that yes it's going across the entire country listen you can hate me because of my skin color you can hate me because of my religion but you cannot impede my right to walk across the street to go to school to go to class that's the violation and let me answer another thing you mentioned about what about it uh so much happening against jews in this country uh at jewish synagogues jewish institutions jewish schools they they need security because of the violence against them there's no other religious entity or religion in this country that has to have that kind of and i call that the jewish tax and it's tens of thousands of dollars just to be protected you don't see a tax at a catholic church or the protestant church but but you see it at synagogues do you feel threatened going to pray yes oh absolutely when did that start i think it started October 7th, yeah exactly, October 7th absolutely yeah 2023, yes you're you're and now you have to spend money for security, yeah I go to a very a small synagogue in uh I don't know what word and uh and and and we have to have a on the sabbath on the sabbath morning, Saturday mornings we have to have an armed guard, we didn't have to have that before and we're a small synagogue, it's it's a burden to pay for that, I know you're going to Temple Israel as well, yeah yeah we're having the tour tomorrow, we're going to go to the Jewish areas, Temple Israel, because they were harmed, they were damned and those were kids at issue there and that's the problem, this hate has spread across the country and again the lack of local responsibility to stop it, we have a big senate race, maybe you've heard it in Michigan, really open senate seat, Dr. Abdul Sayed, uh do you think that and Mike Rogers on the republican side Do you think that because of that race that Michigan, maybe in the country, is going to be a little more focused on on anti-Semitism, that type of thing? Oh, 100 percent. You have a person who is against anti-Semitism, Mike Rogers. You got someone who's silent and basically not taking an aggressive step. I'm not telling people who to vote for, but it's clear someone is very aggressive in fighting anti-Semitism and someone is not. And the country knows that. And to me, it's insulting. Look, you know what makes this important to me in personal? I'm not Jewish. I'm a black American, but I remember the Jewish Americans who fought for black Americans in the 60s. Remember the civil rights movement? There was two Jewish Americans named Werner and Goodman. They were murdered with Cheney in 1964 in Mississippi. I know it all. And Matt, this is a commitment that everyone has to get involved with. This is not a Jewish issue. This is an American issue to stop anti-Semitism. Jews were part of the founding of the NAACP. 1909. Yes. so so do you think that because we have an election here that Michigan is in the spotlight then and if it is which i guess it is what should we do about it why is that why is that important now message yeah but should you anti-semitism is not a jewish problem it's an american problem it's a western democracy problem it's americans should not stand for anti-semitism and and the problem is it doesn't start it doesn't just end with the jews when anti when you have this kind The hate and violence against one group in the country, Jews, it then goes into other groups. It's an American problem. Let me ask you this. Is the hate and violence, as we're talking about here, for Jews, the same as it was for black Americans back 30, 40 years ago? I'll tell you the difference. I'll tell you the difference. The difference is, as far as trying to compare the two, I'm not trying to do that. But the impact, it's the same. They're being denied the greatness of this country. They're being denied the liberties and freedoms of this country. the blacks in the 60s and right now jewish americans the right to be denied to go to school that's what's happening hold on hold on hold that thought hold on i've got to take a commercial time okay you remember that when you're telling me right we got to pay the bill yeah this is a part of the show we do want to hear from you though are jews facing more hate than other groups text us call us 313-765-8844 we'll read them on the air we'll get your questions answered detroit talk city back after this break back detroit talk city i'm your host charlie light and here's the question are the civil rights of Jews being violated. We do want to hear from you. Text us, call us, 313-765-8844. You can join us in the Zoom room as well, 892-4909-0290. Leo. Yes, sir. Leo Terrell is here. Let me get this thing. He's the chair of the Task Force to Combat Antisemitism, appointed by the president of the United States. In my opinion, the best president ever. I would never have known that. Yes. And then there's Sheldon Freilich. He is with the Organization for Zionist Organization of America, Michigan region. All right. We got it out there. Take a call. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. We're going to call Rick from Detroit, Detroit Talk City. Hello, Rick. Hey, Charlie. Thank you so much for taking my call. Can you hear me? Yes, I can. Sure. Excellent. So, my question is, and kind of a two-fold question, is because, first of all, what is considered anti-Semitism? What are they defining as that? Because what I've seen on the college campuses, a lot of the Pro-Palestine marches have been designated as anti-Semitic. But oftentimes it's really a response to what Israel is doing in Palestine and on the West Bank and the genocide that's occurring over there with the killing of the thousands and thousands of women and children and civilians. And so a lot of times that anger is retargeted towards people who don't understand that the pain is on both sides. When you have anti-Islamophobia, and it's not recognized, you have to recognize it. Hold that thought, Rick. Let me take a crack at that. First of all, let me be very clear. October 7th, Israel was attacked. That's a fact. October 7th, 2023. Secondly, I don't mind if someone is anti-Zionist, but don't use that argument to go and confront Jewish Americans in this country and say, you can't walk down the street unless you denounce Israel, unless you basically admit genocide. Basically, they're using the anti-Zionist rhetoric to harm the rights of Jewish Americans in this country that have not articulated their opinion, but it's a demand. You can't go to class unless you attack or support our position. But I can say, I don't think the United States of America should support Israel. I think there's too much contact. Okay, that's fine. And that's okay. That's fine. That is not anti-Semitism. I am not an anti-Semite. But when you target only Jews, when you go to UCLA, I went to UCLA, and you know UCLA Jewish students were blocked from going to class unless they uphold free Palestine. That's anti-Semitism. That's the pretense. And I want to give an example. If a black murders a black in the streets of Chicago to take it out on blacks in Detroit, that's bigotry. That has nothing to do with the person in Chicago. that's bigotry. You're blaming it on all blacks. That's bigotry. Same thing if you're upset with the Israeli government to take it out on Jews in this country. Yeah, that's bigotry. There's a disconnect there. They're using anti-Zionist as an excuse to go after Jews in America. That is wrong. And that's why we have this tour. All right, let's get another call here. Linda from Detroit. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Linda. Hi, Charlie. How you doing? Good. i'm calling because i want to make a comment first of all let me just say this i have no hatred towards jews i have jewish friends the bottom line is trump has started this racial discrimination that's not true that is not true that is your opinion and that is not true okay and that i have jewish friends i that's a statement that's used to justify your anti-semitic behavior that is not true. I don't care. I'm not going to let you attack the president. You have no facts to prove that. Absolutely, you're wrong. You're wrong. See, there you go again. That's a racist statement, and you just hate Trump. She has TDS. This woman has TDS. She has Trump derange syndrome. Yeah, there you go. See that? This is a typical Democrat left-wing plan black man thank you charlie have a good day thank you linda thank you linda but if she challenges you not everyone has trump derangement syndrome though right did you hear what she said she's blaming trump are you kidding she's blaming trump for the for the anti-semitic rhetoric at Columbia, UCLA. This woman hates Trump. That's TDS in its classic form. And let me be very clear about this. I am proud as a black American, as an American, to serve as the head of the task force for fighting anti-Semitism. Newsflash, Leo Trell is not Jewish. He's Baptist. And that's why this is a coalition of all different groups. Does that give you more credibility? It gives me tremendous credibility. I'll tell you something else. That's why this tour is a diverse group of americans black white brown catholic muslim christian fighting against anti-semitism all right hold that thought okay hold i'm gonna get to all the calls i promise i promise okay uh let's we gotta take a break over here uh coming up in the next half no no no no we're gonna take a quick break we will be back to try talk city back after this Detroit Talk City i'm your host charlie Langton civil rights for some overshadowing others. Oh, 313-765-8844. You can also join us in the Zoom room, 892-4909-0290. These two, Leo Terrell, Sheldon Freilich, is trying to rid the country of anti-Semitism. This is the first stop of a national tour appointed by the president to do it. Sheldon, you wanted to respond, though, to Linda. Yeah, I just wanted to say that a Zionist organization of america was invited by leo terrell to partner with him on this uh tour here in michigan he selected detroit michigan as the first stop on this important tour and we're proud that he invited ZO8 to co-sponsor the event with him that's because he thinks that there's a lot of anti-semitism going on here absolutely and we're going to work together and also ZO8 happens to be the oldest pro-israel pro-jewish organization we're 120 years old and we've been fighting civil rights for jews for 120 years all right all right let's take a call betty from detroit you're on detroit talk city hello betty yeah this is betty from detroit i i got a uh challenge for you mr terrell yeah bet you those two sitting next to you jewish as they are i don't see that she's that uh above above you yeah but see she just she just accused you two of both being Jewish the way you speak for them they won't get all sweaty and shiny do you hear this this woman no she made attack on both of you and then she says uh she's made an attack on me at the end she says i'm perspiring this woman is obviously uh anti-semitic let me get another i want to get to the phone call we got a lot of people over here do we have another phone call ready uh let's go to uh mother Bernice from Detroit here on Detroit Talk City do we have her we'll get her we'll get her let me ask you this the anti-semitism focusing on uh on Jews rather why would you do the same tour to focus on blacks or on christians because there's a lot of anti-semitism not just with jews why jews oh i'll tell you right now you look at the numbers jewish americans make up two percent of the population in this great country yet 65 percent of all the hate crimes are directed at jews i would submit to you charlie that the problem of this type of hatred towards jews is not as dominant among blacks listen black americans went through that in the 60s they're not going through it right now in the 20s in the 2020s at all it is targeted at jews prior prioritizing no no no no jews are on the top and blacks are on the bottom no i'm not trying toward prioritizing that at all i'm saying that the amount of hatred towards blacks is not at the same disproportionate level as jews i just mentioned to you two percent black population is much higher and the percentage of hate towards black is a lot less all right let's take a call mother bernice from detroit around detroit talk Hello, Mother Bernice. Hello, my dear. Oh, your guest got me so damn upset. I don't know what to say. Why? Because I love people? Let me tell you something. I'm not going to tell you my age until I get through telling you. I know what I'm talking about. I was, my mother worked with Jewish family in Chicago. I came from Chicago, born and raised there until I came here a long time ago. Anyway, let me tell you, young man, I have nothing against the Jews. I was the sharpest black girl going to high school. Do you hear me? Because my mother worked for the Jewish family. What's the relevance of that? What about right now, 2026? Just hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Go ahead. Go ahead, Bernice. Go ahead. We only have about 20, 30 seconds. Go ahead. She brought clothes home that the daughters wore. I was the sharpest black girl in high school wearing sweaters. I think her point, I think, Bernice, I hate to do it to you, But I think her point is, though, is that there's other races and cultures and ethnicities in this country. I agree. And just to prioritize Jewish people, it might be wrong. Wrong, because, again, I've given you statistics about the disproportionate nature. I want everyone—the last we called it has been black Americans, I believe. And I want them to understand that. Go back and read the book of Dr. Martin Luther King in the 60s when he talked about all people, regardless of skin color is character of the skin Look at Dr. King about his position on Israel and the Jewish-American people. It's the first stop of a 15-city national tour. And he's going to be speaking tomorrow, right? Correct. Leo is going to headline the event tomorrow night at 7 p.m. at Congregation Shira Setach It's going to be a very momentous event where we're going to be talking about this story. I got it. All right. Sheldon, they've got to let you do it. Leo Terrell. Yeah. Thank you. Welcome back to Detroit Talk City. I'm your host, Charlie Light. Tonight, still to come this half hour, Inkster Mayor Byron Nolan is here. He'll be in the hot seat. We're talking about flock cameras and whether public safety is under a microscope and City Hall taking serious heat over crime leadership and local trust. He, of course, will answer your questions as well. We want to get into our poll question. Didn't quite have time to do it last time, but it has to do with the first topic. Are Jews in Metro Detroit targeted by civil rights violations more than others? Okay, that's the question. All right, you can weigh in, scan that QR code right down there at the bottom of the screen to vote, and we'll show you the results a little bit later on in the show. As you know, the show is all about you, the viewer. We're having a conversation, and we want to know what you think. Call us, text us, 313-765-8844. You can jump in the Zoom room as well. 892-4909-0290 and on social media hashtag us at detroit talk city all right we're talking about flock cameras in an era where most cities that i know are getting rid of them inkster is getting them mayor byron nelson good nolan good to see you again you too it's good so i i just took a little about cameras and data rights they covered their Flock cameras, license plate readers, that's we're talking about. In St. Clair Shores, the same thing. Garden City, Westland, Independence Township, Milford. Not Inkster. Not Inkster. Why not? Well, we've had Flock cameras since 2023, license plate readers, and they really assist the police department in investigating crimes, preventing crimes, and it's a great tool to have in the toolbox to make sure our residents are safe. You've heard of the arguments, though, by other cities, privacy. Do you want to drive your car around and a picture taken of your car, your license plate as well? Well, you know being an attorney there's no expectation of privacy driving down the street so these license plate readers only read license plates they can't see who's in the car they can't make out what you're doing in the car so i think that's a bogus argument for the most part but they store the data too though they can store it for depending on how long the contract, a week, 30 days i don't know what yours is but 30 days 30 days we started that's the longest one well you have to have the worst one the privacy people don't like that well but you have to keep the contact in case there's an investigation of crime, someone's charged with a crime, you have to turn that evidence over to the prosecutor. After 30 days, if there's no investigation or if there's no crime or anybody charged with a crime, you destroy the evidence. You're a lawyer. So you don't like this privacy argument, do you? I just don't. It doesn't, from a legal standpoint, it doesn't hold water. I mean, you have expectations of privacy when you go in the bathroom, in the public place, or a clothing store, if you're in a dressing room. You have an expectation of privacy, not driving down the street. We'll get some calls here, 313-765-8844. Some people, they don't believe it. They don't believe that this little camera, and it is probably about as big as that microphone. It's not that big. It's small. That they think they can see who's driving. They think maybe they can hear you. They think they're putting your thing through a machine or whatever, AI, and they've spit out some warrant that you may have there. But you've heard the arguments. Now, some of that's not true, but it's a perception, though. It is. It is. It's a fear. I mean, when you look at technology and facial recognition, those are the things people are worried about. You can scan my face, I'm walking down the street, and know who I am, and then come pick me up or send somebody to come get me. Would you be okay with that in Inkster? No. No, I would not. Why not? Facial recognition. You don't have any expectations of privacy if you're outside. You don't. You don't. But that's too far. That's too far. You draw the line. Yeah, yeah. That's too far. You approve ShotSpotter, too. That's OK. We have a system called Raven, which is similar. But yeah, that definitely aids. We have shots fired in the city. The microphone will pick it up. They'll take us to where the shots came from. Let me see. Let me go back to the Flock. I want to get to the ShotSpotter. That's interesting, too. But besides the privacy issue and the data storage issue, some people say there's abuse. The cops can get a hold of the cameras. They can track their girlfriends or boyfriends or whatever. That's real. I mean, unfortunately, that's happening. That's happening. I've read about cases all over the country. When you have humans involved, humans are going to misuse technology, anything. Even before we had technology, you pull over somebody because you want to see what they're doing, driving while black. We've heard that many, many, many times. So that's not new because we have technology. In our city, though, if you misuse the equipment, you're fired. We have zero tolerance for it because that's a serious intrusion. That is a way for the other cities to cure that problem. I've always thought that was the weakest argument. If you abuse the lean machine, there's a lot. Murder is a crime. It's been a crime for a long time. People still do it. Right. But has there been a problem of abuse in the... How long have you had the Flock cameras in England? Since 2023. We haven't had any issues since we've had them. But now we're getting more license plate readers and some additional technology the Flock has. It's interesting. All these cities are putting black bags over the Flock cameras. You go from six cameras to 20. Yeah, absolutely. Now, that tells me either you love this stuff or there's a lot of crime in England. Well, we want to make sure our residents are safe. So we are part of an initiative called Safe City, and we want to make sure our residents are safe, and we want to actually assist our police department in doing their job. So that's what we're doing. Do you think that the cities that have gotten rid of the flock cameras, that they're making their citizens not as safe as they are in Inkster? Absolutely. Oh! Absolutely. People in Milford, St. Clair Shores, call the mayor. And maybe they have a different tool. I mean, they're not the only player in the game. You know, Axon, Motorola, they have the same technology. Flock, when you say flock, you get a reaction from folks. Yeah. Because they've heard of it, they know about it. There were some lawsuits in the past. There was some question about what they were doing with data and information. So that's why you get a visceral reaction. And that's just the brand name. It's the license plate readers. But there's some other ones there. All right, hold that thought, Mayor. We do want to hear from you. Are flock cameras an invasion of privacy? Many say yes. He says no. Text and call us, 313-765-8844. We'll get your questions answered live on the air. Detroit Talk City back after the break. Detroit Talk City, I'm your host, Charlie Langton. Are smart cameras, license plate readers, are they needed? If they're needed in Inkster, many other cities say they are not needed. We've got the mayor here, Byron Nolan, the mayor of Inkster. You had a big press conference today, didn't you? Yeah, we did. We did. Yeah. That's why you're all fancy. I get gussied up every once in a while. All right. Let's take a text right here. It's wrong to track everyone going everywhere. Flock cameras should only be used to find a wanted license plate. How do you answer that? I mean, I kind of agree with that sentiment. We don't just randomly track people. If something happens, we get a call. We go talk to the person. They'll give us a description of a car or something. And then we'll if they don't have a license plate, we'll look for that particular a car and Flock has technology has the ability to find if there's some particular character a blue Oldsmobile we have the technology in order to find that car to to to get that person um off the street if they committed a crime don't you think the Flock camera people have the worst PR in the world yeah i mean they can't convince most of these cities convince you guys but not these cities i don't understand it's funny these cities had them previously they just canceled the contract So they convinced him at some point. But, you know, political pressure. Let's take a quick break. We've got more on this coming up. We'll answer your texts, your phone calls. Should Flock cameras be in Inkster? You're watching Detroit Talk City. Back in a moment. Welcome back to Detroit Talk City. You can text us. You can call us. That number is 313-765-8844. You can jump into the Zoom room as well. 892-4909-0290. do we need Flock cameras are they good are they bad most cities are saying no Inkster here with the mayor Brian Nolan says yes he loves them i'll take a call let's do it uh David from Westland you're on Detroit Talk City hello David hello Charlie i have a question i have a question for the mayor sure go ahead David what's your question no uh i have been to city hall previous times and my uh comment is my question my comment is transparency my question is where is it at we need more human eyes because i tried to get a FOIA from inkster department and you know what happened i got the wrong bit and when i came back and tried to get it you know the right stuff it looked at me like i was a problem and when i tried to reach out for transparency in city hall i got done i got treated like i was a threat so we need more honest people that police honest policeman that does the job right would not deny you your 14th amendment and will tell you that your 14th amendment don't mean that when you're telling them right on camera and when you ask for the footage you don't get it so i mean there is some uh yeah i mean when dealing with the city and your privacy rights they are important i don't think they're you're minimizing them it says is that enough argument not to have flock cameras for example um no but i'm i'm sorry you had that experience um i'm all about transparency so if you ever have an issue like that in the future just call my office you know we'll make sure if you did a FOIA you're requesting information you're entitled to that information and we have that uh video or anything any interaction you had with uh law enforcement we have that information so we we do FOIAs every day we process FOIA every day um you know i guess every once in a while you may have a hiccup or something like that but um just let me know if you ever have a problem like that ever again okay this goes a long way oh yeah let's take another call Gandra from Wayne but you grew up in Inkster you're on Detroit Talk City hello Gandra hello yes you're on there you're on Gandra yeah oh hey Charlie you know what i'm born and raised from Inkster and i live in Wayne I spoke last month or a month and a half ago on Mayor Sheffield But this is the right thing I came in. Yes, they don't need fly cameras They need fly money out of Inkster. I'm so ashamed to say I'm from Inkster He's trying to line his pockets like Wimberley did. I'm born and bred in Inkster Inkster was one of the beautifulest cities. He's just trying to get money. People out there don't know who to vote for, really You know, and I hate I can't vote no more out there because I live in Wayne No. All right All right. All right, guys. Thanks for the call. But you're making some improvements in Inkster? No question And using technology to support our police department is not money getting invented for me personally That makes no sense. You know, what we're trying to do is make sure our residents are safe You know, and she's talking about the former mayor. I have no association with what he did or anything that happened in the past He had some criminal trouble, and he got removed, and that was the former mayor Nothing to do with you. Let's take a text here. Let's do this. Keep flock cameras. The good outweighs the bad. If everyone is so worried about privacy, then get rid of your smartphones. Well, that's a good idea. That's interesting. Interesting. And some people do. They go off the grid. So, you know, I've seen people do it. But you're going from 6 to 20. You must love these flock cameras. They work. Yeah. All right, let's take another call. Tom from Royal Oak. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Tom. Hello, Charlie. I would like to say that I applaud Mayor Nolan. These flock cameras are very, very important. I live in Tampa six months a year. They've had flock cameras for years down there. My daughter's a police officer down there, and she said it is so helpful. When a stolen car drives by that camera and that license plate is red, immediately the police are on that car trying to get that car or trying to get a criminal that's escaping. So thank you very much, Mayor Nolan. You're the greatest. I appreciate you. There you go. Got to move to Inkster. Yeah, exactly. Let's take another call. John from Detroit. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, John. John, are you there? I'm here. Hey, John, what's your question for Mayor Nolan of Inkster? Well, I grew up in L.A., and I grew up through the riots in 67, 65. The mayor, the guy you got there, he's a sellout. That's all he is. He's a sellout. Black people have been tracked forever, and he thinks flock cameras is a little bit. Why has he got all his flock cameras in Inkster? Well, I think, let me modify the question a little bit. He's saying, why do you have so many flock cameras? Maybe there's a hint that there's a lot of crime. You need 20 of them. That's actually a lot for a city of, your city's, what, six miles? Six square miles. Six, that's a lot of camera. I bet you we have less proportionally than the city of Detroit. Detroit has a whole crime center, and they have ShotSpotter, you know, and different technology. But I don't see how, I mean, I'm not a sellout because I'm trying to keep my residents safe. I'm trying to make sure that we solve crimes in Inkster so we reduce the amount of crime that we do have in Inkster and help other communities also. Dearborn, Dearborn Heights, all our communities that neighbor us, except for Westland and Garden City, have flock cameras. And so if someone leaves one community and goes to the next, you can share that information when you're chasing somebody who they committed a crime with the next community. So hopefully they can pull them over. You think the criminals are going to know that they're going to say, we're going to commit some crime. Let's do it in Westland and Garden City. And we'll skip Inkster because you guys have the cameras. Maybe. Maybe. We'll see. Take another call. Herbert from Detroit. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Herbert. How are you doing? Good. I agree with the block cameras. My thing is, if people don't have anything to hide, they shouldn't worry about whether they have cameras or not. I really agree on the cameras. They need to exactly keep the cameras. Yeah. Yeah, it's a deterrent to crime. Let's get another call here. David from Inkster. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, David. Hello. Yep, you're on with the mayor. Your mayor. Yeah, I think 20 Flock cameras is excessive, I believe that in the city where it has no schools or no major franchises, we don't have a McDonald's, a Burger King, a Kroger's, none of that. But we have dispensaries and 20 Flock cameras. I think that is excessive. And it becomes a problem when you put them in front of people's houses, you have probably 10 of the 20 in front of people's houses. We don't like that. That's what y'all like. The city don't like that. That's what the mayor and them like. So, David, you raise a good point. I mean, would you want to live in any city where right in the front of your house you've got a Flock camera? That just tells the world there's crime where I'm living, doesn't it? Well, hopefully it's a deterrent and it's telling the world that we don't want crime in our community. And if you commit a crime in our community, you're going to get caught. So that's what I hope that information is telling folks. What about David's point, though, that 20 cameras is excessive? As opposed to what number? Six. Six is what we had three years ago. And it's harder to track when you only have six. If you have 20, it's easier to track somebody if they're under investigation, if they did something wrong. It's easier to do it with 20 rather than six. You don't think there's a detriment? My gosh, Easton's got 20 cameras. That must be a really crime-ridden city. No, I really don't. I think you would be shocked at some of the numbers that other communities have, how the number of Flock cameras they have. Linda from Southfield, you're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Linda. Hi. Hello. I am going to make this comment. I think that there are pros and cons when it comes to Flock cameras. Europe has used what they call CCTV for many years to help crime to stay down. When a person is a victim of a crime and they're looking for help, then they'll look to Flock cameras for that. I think that if they're properly used and you don't break the law, there is no problem with Flock cameras. The Internet has more information on us than any Flock camera could possibly do. Yeah. And we need. Yeah. What do you think about that? Thank you, Linda, for the call. I appreciate that. I think Linda's spot on. Yeah. What's next at Inkster? What are you guys going to be doing? You like this technology, it seems. Would you consider a data center in your city? If it made sense. As long as a data center didn't harm the residents of the city of Inkster, didn't affect the power that they received, the water, and didn't emit any type of pollution, we would certainly consider any type of economic development. Is that a possibility? Absolutely. You're going to talk about it. Well, I mean, we have a proposed micro data center that's being proposed in the city of Inkster now, which we're going to discuss for the first time at our next city council meeting so looking forward to hearing what residents say uh the comments uh some of the technical information we're trying to get some information out to our residents to teach them more about it because a lot of times you'll hear and you just hear bad bad bad uh you know they're talking about the saline uh development where it's a hundred acres you know that's a big we're talking about a micro two acres you know 50,000 square feet that which is being proposed because we don't have land like that for a big data center we'll follow that up as well mayor Brian Nolan, the mayor of Inkster, his city just got Flock cameras. Were many cities around Detroit or not? All right, stay with us. We've got the report tomorrow. Oh, and we're back. But the 5 o'clock news with Rube. What's going on tonight, Rube? What's going on? We'll begin here. This Wayne County woman is missing and believed to be in danger. The search for 43-year-old Kimberly McGrath continues. Fox 2's Jamie Shrout is live with the very latest on what you need to know. That's coming up in just a few minutes, next at 5. Hi, welcome back, Detroit Talk City. Now it is time for the results of our poll. Our question of the day, which is, was, are Jews in Metro Detroit targeted by civil rights violations more than others? It looks like 68% say no way. All right. And, of course, 32% said yes. Interesting discussion. No question about that. We're also doing a discussion about Flock cameras. as well. And we'll follow up on what's going on in Inkster. And as we just heard from the mayor, they're talking about a little mini data center. Lots of things going on for future shows. All right. That's it for this show, Detroit Talk City. Remember, you can connect with us using the hashtag Detroit Talk City on Instagram and X. 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