Telescoping - Ram Air 12ga. Slug Prototype - Tested!

You're watching TAOFLEDERMAUS. Hello everyone. This is Jeff of TAOFLEDERMAUS. We have a very unusual viewer created projectile to show you today. This is a ram air projectile designed by Sar of Israel. This is a project I've been dreading to do because I thought I'm just going to break these things in the tests. Now what's really unusual about these is they have an extendable segmented tail nozzle assembly that extends out the back after you fire it. And this makes the projectile nearly three inches long. We've got the green ones. We've got the black ones. We also have the green and black with a single nozzle. These telescoping slugs are very nose heavy thanks to the solid brass nose. Now my biggest concern with these is whether or not the, uh, plastic third dimensional manufactured, uh, tail and body assembly are strong enough to withstand the inertial setback that occurs during acceleration. In other words, that heavy brass nose can just crush all that plastic very easily. And trust me, it would be quite a shame for these to come all the way from the other side of the world for me to just destroy them and ruin the test. I painted some little markings on the projectiles to help us hopefully see what's going on with the high speed camera as they travel down range. It's kind of like the markings on a Saturn five rocket. Now it certainly doesn't make them look any prettier, but it may actually help with our analysis as we do our tests. And with that being said, it is time for the test. Let's head out to the range and see how these perform. Everyone. We are back out here a little cooler day today, but a little bit of clouds. So it's a little bit dark off to run the high speed camera a little bit slower because of the lower light. But anyway, we're out here going to test out SARS telescoping 12 gauge slugs. Uh, these are, I anticipate there's might be some, uh, a few failures with these. I'll be honest with you. Um, I'm going to, I'm very concerned about the strength of the plastic tail section being strong enough to handle the force. So basically what I have to do is do all my loading recipe out here, take a shot and adjust, and then, uh, adjust, you know, if it's too much power and it shatters the thing, we got to back it off a little bit. The, the, the problem there is we can back it off so much that we could actually get a squib where the projectile never leaves the barrel. And we don't want that to happen. Uh, anyway, we, uh, we're just going to take a few long range shots. So for the first shots and we got to target out at 68 yards and, and another one way out there at a hundred yards, get the, I'm very optimistic. You know, that's a, that's an optimistic distance, but what we want to see is if these things actually telescope out and that's, that'd be great, but hopefully they will, uh, actually survive. I want to thank, give a quick thank you to, uh, one of my Patreons. He wants to be anonymous and I haven't thanked him yet, uh, on camera, but, uh, he sent me two pounds of E3 powder, which is what we're going to use today. Thank you so much. That'll keep me busy for a long, long time. I don't know. Let's just say I'll never have to worry about buying E3 in my lifetime again. We've got the, the, uh, remote rig by Brian from Cincinnati. Very useful. It allows me to get way back, be way behind the camera or behind the gun, operate the high-speed camera. So let's, let's give these things a try. The first one has 16 grains of E3. Okay. The sun has just popped out. We're going to shoot at the 68 yard target first, 16 grains. Let's hit it. I can actually see that thing flying through the air. And we had, uh, 1133 feet per second, 16 grains. Let's hit it. Now, the good news is it did not break into a million pieces when we shot it. Also, I got it about as close to Mach one as you could possibly get. And we actually hit the target. It was pretty accurate. Now this was one of the green ones with the single tail. Now this was shot through rifling. So it was spinning at close to 20,000 RPM, but it was kind of flying like one of those ground bloom flower fireworks. But, uh, Hey, I'm happy so far. Despite that. Okay. The first one was the one, uh, one of the green one with just the single little tail, this one is a green one with the double tail, only 15 grains. So it should get us down closer to subsonic speeds. Here we go. Now I did not get a speed reading on this one, but it definitely is behaving a little better. Now the red thing on the back of the slug is a thin nitro card, a cardboard disc, and that was just kind of sucked to the back of the, of the projectile. Again, this one was really accurate, much more accurate than I ever imagined, but it did not deploy the little tails. Actually. I'm, I'm quite, quite impressed with these so far. I think I got the powder load about where I needed about 15 grains. I did not get a reading on that last one though. Um, should have been high one thousands, maybe not hearing any whistling or anything like that. They just may not whistle more. Maybe they will. This next one is a black one with a single tail. See if we can hit that dummy for a third time. They're all landing exactly where I'm aiming. It's amazing. Right in the center of the chest, sir. Okay. 15 grains. Here we go. They could hit again. Here we go. Came really close to hitting that dragon fly. You probably had to change his trousers after that. Now this one flew really nice. And again, we're probably traveling around 1,050 feet per second subsonic. Now it's really difficult to tell if the tail assembly actually deployed on this shot, but again, I'm really happy with how these are working. Okay. We have another green one still using 15 grains. That seems to be the magic number here. Uh, we're going to go for that 100 yard target down there, just right at the center point blank. Point blank is not a distance is how you hold the gun to compensate for drop. That's all it is. Uh, but we're, we're holding it point blank on the chest of the dummy. Okay. Son has come out again. Let's give it a try. Ha hit it. Amazing. These are fantastic. Let's come out again. Let's give it a try. Sorry. I couldn't help myself there, but what a fantastic shot. 100 yards subsonic speeds with a homemade projectile. And that's definitely a kill shot. Uh, that would be a quite a stretch for a foster slug to hit that accurate at a 100 yards. Okay. The next one is going to be a closer range shot at the lead plate. If I don't do the lead plate, people get really mad. They got to see the lead plate. So we're at 18 yards and what I'm, I brought it in really close. So I could, uh, hopefully get some high speed footage of the tail actually being, you know, deploying. It's not just staying tucked in there, right? So hopefully we can see that. Hopefully the sunlight cooperates with us. It's going to be a little darker, so let's give it a try. Okay. Let's do it. Here we go. I am not getting any chronograph readings with these. It's got that one. I'm lucky to get that, I guess. Okay. Let's do it. Here we go. All right. Kind of hard to tell if it actually deployed the tail or not. It kind of looks like it's poking out a little bit there. Probably not the best camera angle. Definitely not my best high speed camera work either, but, uh, we kind of could tell what's going on there. Okay. I hope the high speed came out on that one. When the light changes around like that, it makes it difficult to get that high speed, you know, the, the, I'm mostly adjusting the aperture. And, uh, anyway, that one was about where I was aiming. There's still, look how tough that stuff is. That, that stuff is much tougher than I thought it would be. Really buried in there. Not much to see in the back because we have an impact about, about where it hit. But there you go. Not bad. There's your lead plate shot folks. Yeah. It's mushroomed out from that big hollow point. Pretty cool. Okay. Next up, we have a green one. This is, this target is, I better range that out. This one is at 27 yards, so I pulled it back a little bit. Still hopefully get enough zoom with the high speed maxed out. It's maximum zoom at port, you know, 75 millimeter, millimeter lens on that thing. Um, let's see how that does. Sun is starting to come out again. Here we go. Nice impact, three gallons of water. Still no reading on the chrono. In this shot, I wanted to show how much energy even a subsonic one ounce projectile still has. And it split that thing open like a pistachio nut. Is it just me or do pistachios taste a lot better when you actually have to crack open the shells yourself? I think the sun has called it quits for the day. There's, it's a very overcast now, quite a bit darker and that high-speed camera needs that light. So hopefully the imagery from that is going to be decent enough to see what the heck we're doing here. So this is a, uh, we're going to shoot at a steel plate. Now the difference here is we're going to shoot out of a smooth bore shotgun, no spin before we were using spin, which is sometimes cheating, but these may actually stabilize or do something different out of a smooth bore. It may just tumble or it may stabilize, but we got to try it. Cause my curiosity got the best of me. We're going to try it and see what it does. All right, here we go. Well, he hit it. That's a good sign. Now the projectile did pretty well out of a smooth bore. Got a little bit of a waggle going on there, but that's kind of normal with that kind of a drag stabilization. If you squint and hold your tongue to your cheek, you could really tell what's going on there. Hopefully you can see this nice brass mark there. It's like something else hit right there. So we got a double bulge there, folks. That's a nice bulge. Oh yeah, baby. Okay. This is the black one with double tail. We're going to go for this 68 yard target. Oh, not good at all. Even though this was a complete failure, it is a reminder that these tests are not as easy as we make them look. Things can definitely go wrong real fast, but the good news is the tail assembly definitely deployed on that shot and kind of stabilized it a little bit near the end. We are going to try that one again. This is another black one, double tail. You might've noticed a little bit of orange powder coming out of that one. That was a little bit of, just like a gram of orange chalk line powder. So we're going to give it one more try. Here we go. I saw a nice trail from that. I saw a nice orange trail. Here we go. Now we're still using the smooth bore and this one, it didn't do terribly. It just wasn't real accurate. Uh, it was mostly stable. We still see a little bit of, uh, that orange dust coming out of the back of it, kind of proving that we have airflow going through it. And we do have a hit on the target just above the knee there. Okay. We got one left. I want to see if we could hit that thing through the rifled barrel. We got the rifle barrel back on there with a little bit of chalk powder in there for effect. It might look really cool or it might screw it all up. We'll see. Here we go. Great. That worked great. Probably see that on the regular camera too. This was a fun and very satisfying test. I went into it believing that they were just going to shatter coming out of the barrel. And I was going to have to reduce the powder load to the point where they're, they're coming out at 300 feet per second or slower. So it was really amazing to me that we were getting 68 yard hits right out of the gate. And then we got the 100 yard shot, which just blew my mind. I thought we were going to completely miss that one. Now, if you have any questions or comments, please, please leave them. Uh, I love reading your comments and I try to reply to as many as possible. I'm no snob at all. Hey, I hope you enjoyed the video. We'll see you next time.