Prince Harry's Potential Role in the EXPLOSIVE Book From Princess Diana's Brother About Royal Family

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Maureen Callahan, host of "The Nerve," to discuss whether Prince Harry is coordinating with Princess Diana's brother to hurt the royal family, Diana's brother's intriguing involvement in Diana's funeral, and more.
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AI GeneratedThis discussion explores the complex dynamics of the British Royal Family, focusing on Harry and Meghan's potential strategies for reconciliation and a critical analysis of Earl Charles Spencer's character. It further examines the trauma surrounding Princess Diana's funeral and the perceived hypocrisy of Prince Charles regarding his relationship with Diana.
Honestly, I think they're trying to use these kids, their kids, to try to get closer to
the couple that does matter.
You know, like if only they can forge a friendship between little Louie and Archie, if only they
can make Princess Charlotte feel like an older sister to Lilibet, they're back in.
Next Gen is back in Windsor Castle and at Balmoral and locked in for when that generation
ascends to power, or perhaps even before, because when Prince William becomes king,
you know, George is going to be right on his heels and the Next Gen can be there and therefore
Harry and Meghan can be there.
I really think that's what they're planning.
I think that's what they're hoping for, absolutely.
I just think William and Catherine are far too shrewd to fall for it, especially if the
reports are true that Harry and Meghan are allying themselves with Charles Spencer.
Yeah.
You know, so page six, this is just so the audience knows, page six says that they are,
like they actually reported that and said, we are reporting that Prince Harry was told
about and knows, was given basically an advance peek at the allegations.
The Telegraph says, no, it's not true.
So there was a bit of a, I don't know where all this was, but it was in my packet someplace.
The Telegraph reported, no, he knew about the book, but he didn't know about the specific
claims.
And I think that's what the Daily Mail reported too.
So there's a bit of a split in the reporting about whether Harry knew.
I believe he knew he was just over there.
They were all over the Earl's estate, taking pictures near Diana's grave, as you and I
have discussed.
There's no way he didn't tell them, don't worry.
I got this.
There's also no way they're there.
I mean, you know this, you've written a memoir, Doug writes books.
They were there two months before the book's publication date, which I believe is the 22nd
of September.
You have bound galleys, if not fully finished physical copies of the book.
You don't think there were copies of that book laying around all four.
You don't think that Harry got like a sneak peek because they're allying themselves.
Harry, I want you to be okay with this.
I don't want you to be shocked by anything.
We need to stay on each other's good side, right?
Well, especially because there's no way he's on the good side of Prince William.
Absolutely not.
And William will never have anything to do with him after this.
He seems kind of like a hot mess in his own regard.
Carlos, he's had three marriages.
I was just going to say, I think he might be on number four.
So he's had three divorces.
My team did pull some information on the divorces, which I did.
I'm not going to lie.
I found it kind of interesting.
Hold on a second.
Let me see if I can find it.
Yeah, here we go.
He's fathered seven children across three marriages and now is on number four.
The first one was to Victoria Lockwood, 89 to 97 via Time Magazine.
Their divorce became extremely contentious.
Lockwood, the ex, characterized him as a serial adulterer and alleged that his first affair
began less than six months after their wedding.
Charming.
Lockwood's lawyers alleged that Spencer, wait until you hear this, had as many as 12 affairs
during the marriage.
Spencer denied that allegation and he disputed that there had been anything approaching 12
with his legal side, arguing that her lawyers could identify only a few.
Oh, OK.
Well, that changes everything.
OK.
100%.
Then there was Caroline Freud from 2001 to 2007 via the London Times Standard.
This divorce is described as being granted on the basis of Spencer's quote, unreasonable
behavior.
OK.
Patterns repeat themselves.
That's all I'll say.
Then there was Karen Gordon, 2011 to 2025 via the UK Times and the Daily Mail.
Gordon claims her now ex-husband had an affair and also ended their marriage by text message.
The Earl denied both those claims.
Here's what he said.
This was an absurd attempt to blacken my name.
Karen ended the marriage after endless threats to do so over the years.
In early March, she asked me to confirm the end of the marriage in a text, and my reply
was a simple acceptance of her decision.
OK.
So that's that.
But then here's another thing.
There was a documentary made.
It's called The Immediate Aftermath of Diana's Death, Seven Days that Shook the World, Shook
the World by the Real Royal.
And what they allege is that Tony Blair aides and palace officials have confirmed to them
that Carlos, a.k.a.
Earl Charles Spencer, wanted to walk behind Diana's coffin alone, alone, and that he and
Diana were not speaking at the time of her death.
She wanted to live in a cottage at Althorp, but he refused.
He didn't want the press there.
So they had had a falling out.
And yet so he claims in his book that he was outraged, Maureen, outraged that they were
going to have a young princess walk behind Diana's coffin.
And that and what this documentary reports is that what he was really upset about was
he wanted to be the one walking there by himself.
All of this tracks.
It's amazing.
By the way, the allegation about the Charles Carlos rather ending the third marriage via
text message.
I was just reading a profile of Jerry Hall in The Guardian or The Telegraph this weekend.
And she said, this is how Rupert Murdoch, her report, ended the marriage.
It was a text message that she was not expecting.
Megan, the text message said, we've had some good times, but I have to move on now.
I died.
I was like that totally.
I mean, does it make me a bad person if I say it's kind of a power move?
Yeah.
No, she clearly married him for his money.
Like what?
And he married her for her beauty.
Yeah.
Transactional.
Like, why should I feel bad for her?
I wasn't a love relationship.
By the way, I have had dinner with the two of them.
It was not a love relationship.
Fair enough.
I do think there's a there's a better like just an out of self-interest.
You wanted to maybe go smoothly, maybe not have her call Jagger and like get the house
swept for bugs.
You don't care.
You may or may not have planted.
That's the beauty of being a Rupert Murdoch or like a titan, a true titan of of industry
across cross-continental.
Right.
Like, you're basically like everyone can **** off.
I'm me.
I don't I'm not saying it's always great.
I'm just saying, like, imagine being that person where you're just kind of like, bye
now.
I'm done.
But it's it's it's it's exactly why I believe the reports in the divorce where he said,
you cannot talk to the writers of Succession because this is something the Brian Cox character
would do.
Oh, yeah.
You know, and that the average person watching at home would be like, really?
Yeah.
Would somebody really be that heartless?
Like, yes, they would.
They could.
Did I tell you that I used to live next door to Brian Cox?
No.
Yes.
It's actually very funny.
Doug and I, when when I first moved to New York the second time as a journalist, I moved.
I lived here for a few years when I was a lawyer.
And then Roger made me an anchor.
I'd been working in the D.C. bureau.
He moved me up to New York to to launch America's Newsroom with Bill Hemmer.
Oh, wow.
So that was 2007, January of 07.
And I rented a little like the second floor of one of those Chelsea Brownstones.
Oh, nice.
It was so cute.
And on the second floor next to me in the Brownstone right next to me was Brian Cox,
who had starred in Braveheart.
You know, he'd been in some movies, but it was pre Succession.
You know, his career has been so revived and he's so talented.
But he and his wife were my neighbor.
And then Doug, when we got married, moved in and the four of us saw each other quite
a bit.
We spent Halloweens out in front of our little Brownstones because that neighborhood was
so popular for Halloween.
It's insane.
The kids are like 20 deep.
You just start like throwing it at them.
And we would have cheese and crackers and wine out in front of our Chelsea Brownstones
every Halloween.
I know he was actually such a sweet guy.
He had a temper, I'm not going to lie, but he was always lovely to us.
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Yeah, I love that.
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So yeah, so then, so actually, so we were talking about, OK, Carlos, the divorces, number
four, oh, the documentary and Carlos wanting to walk alone.
That completely tracks.
And you know, this whole thing is just I truly believe they were not on good terms when Diana
died because she would have had to know that her brother would have been capable of something
like this.
You know, look at the heartless way he treated every single wife.
Apparently, most of his children, the daughters at least, don't speak to him.
And like to tell her she can't live in that little cottage on the family estate, like
because the press might come.
First of all, it doesn't seem like the press can have access to Althorp without his permission.
And second of all, that's exactly why she needed to be there.
All right.
Like, yeah, to get away from that when she wanted to be away from that, a loving brother
would have said, sure, of course, let me help you out.
I'll protect you.
But that that does invite a closer look at what he is saying in this book about the funeral
and the boys walking.
Because it is interesting.
He I mean, he is unsparing in this.
Again, this isn't officially out.
It's just the Daily Mail has gotten an exclusive excerpt.
OK.
And this is in part what he writes.
I was chosen to be the point of contact for my family when it came to Diana's funeral
arrangements.
Once it was correctly decided after my family appreciated the public need for it, that Diana's
service should be a full blown national ceremony.
Buckingham Palace and Prince Charles's offices felt entitled to take the lead.
These little buzzwords.
Diana remained there as in Buckingham Palace's eyes, even in death.
Her family, despite her divorce, were simply expected to fall in line with any royal decisions.
It is at moments like this that even the most ardent monarchist finds that questions about
arrogance and entitlement arise.
Love the passive voice right now.
We've gotten entitled, arrogant and entitled again.
My sisters knew that Diana had always wanted Mozart's Requiem to be played for her after
death.
When I passed it on, it was rejected.
They said that this could not be played at a Church of England funeral.
I later found out that was not the case.
The first of several untruths that the authorities would push my way.
There was no thought of anyone in the royal family talking to me directly, as was usual.
Such a delicate and personal interaction was farmed out to a courtier.
Then he talks out about how this Colonel Ross guy was his, you know, handler.
He seemed about to hang up on one of our phone calls when he added, oh, another thing.
It's been decided that the two young princes will walk behind the princess's coffin.
Well, that's not going to happen.
I can't do a British accent.
I can kind of do Indian.
I almost did Asian the other day when we talked about the Orchid Asian Spa and Bill Belichick,
but I chose not to.
I'm not.
I'm sorry, not Bill Belichick, Robert Crabb.
Forgive me, Bill.
Anyhoo, yeah, it's better not to.
OK, so that's he says, well, that's not going to happen.
It was a suggestion that struck me as utterly barbaric and quite out of the question.
By this stage, I had learned that Diana had left me as her son's guardian.
This was a role without legal function.
While the other parent lived, I knew she would never have wanted her boys to undertake such a public ordeal.
Well, the Prince of Wales says it is Ross repeated.
No, I said, I'm afraid it's not happening.
Diana would never have wanted to put them through anything so ghastly.
Then Charles allegedly called him.
I gather you've got a problem with the funeral arrangements, he said testily.
No, I don't think so, I said.
My mind on the structure of the service.
But I gather you've said you don't want William and Harry to walk behind Diana's coffin.
Well, of course not, sir.
Diana would never have wanted that.
But I did it at Lord Mountbatten's funeral.
But you were 30, sir, and he wasn't your mother.
He went nuts, writes Carlos.
That's the problem with your family.
They've got no bloody sense of duty before descending into a general rage.
And that's when he allegedly dropped the line.
We'll forget her soon enough.
OK, I believe there probably was a dispute over William and Harry walking behind that casket,
because this became actually a public reaction where many people were like, what in the actual F?
Like who would do that to these boys?
And am I wrong?
Didn't Harry complain about it in spare?
I think he wrote about it in an unfavorable way, like he didn't want to do it.
And Earl Carlos claims he was later told that the reason he allowed it, he, Carlos,
allowed it to happen was that he was then later told the boys want to do it.
It's interesting.
Harry has said he's spoken about, I think, multiple times that that is among the defining traumas,
not just Diana's death, but being made to walk behind the coffin.
Notice William's never spoken about that.
Apparently, also, Prince Philip was very, very concerned about the boys and had said,
if if you want to do it, I will walk with you, your grandpa.
I find it remarkable that Charles, as you were just discussing,
Carlos rather rejected coldly Diana's request to live it off that summer and and keep a low profile.
Given his extremely self-serving, bombastic eulogy at her service,
which the royal family allowed him to do, they clearly did not screen his eulogy,
in which he called her Diana compared to the most hunted Greek goddess after which she was named.
OK, so the hunted, the preyed upon.
Well, who could have helped her out in that scenario when she was feeling so haunted?
Maybe you.
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