"WHAT HE WANTS IS..." Man Utd fan Dan Waters delivers UPDATE on Marcus Rashford's long-term FUTURE

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AI GeneratedThis discussion covers the post-World Cup landscape, focusing on the debate over Thomas Tuchel's role as England manager and a series of high-profile Premier League transfer rumors involving Manchester United, Aston Villa, Arsenal, and Nottingham Forest.
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First of all, how are you feeling about the World Cup now that it's settled, before we get into some of the chat?
Because it's still clearly a live conversation around Thomas Tuchel.
I mean, how are you feeling after the semi-final, after the 6-4 win against France?
Are you Tuchel out at this point or do you think you can calm it a little bit?
I think the Reds misdescended for a while after the Argentina game.
Probably about four or five days of complete insanity and just rage.
And the decisions in that game were criminal.
I mean, I sort of thought that Guardiola would be the best option.
Generally speaking, I'd rather prefer an English man anyway,
but if you're going to go and get a foreign manager, get the best foreign manager.
So yeah, I probably wasn't keen on Tuchel from the get-go.
That said, there was some good football throughout the tournament,
but realistically, I'd be more inclined to say English manager, and if not English manager, Guardiola.
But what the FA will do about that, I think it's more likely they'll stick with him, right?
I don't mind where the manager comes from. I will say that.
The fact that no World Cup has ever been won by a manager not managing his own country
sort of makes you go, there must be something in that.
Why are we trying to fix that? Why are we trying to break that?
And the best managers tend to have been, I mean, look at the two managers in the final.
The last two winners, Luis de la Fuente and Scoloni.
They are not these sort of huge, ginormous figures in the game of football.
I mean, de la Fuente was managing the under-19s, almost like a Lee Carsley-type figure coming through.
But a lot of the players then came through.
I mean, he was managing Marino in the under-19 teams when they won the World Cup, I think,
or the Youth World Cup.
And I just feel like...
Why can't we do that?
I mean, we tried that with Southgate, I guess, and people weren't too happy towards the end.
But this idea of getting a tried-and-tested proven manager,
I can't remember the last time maybe Scolari was quite good at Brazil.
Also, there is no English manager putting their hand up.
No.
Yeah, that's the thing.
I mean, I'd imagine Eddie Howe's going to be available.
But then, look, it's all hypothetical.
And the reality is, as it stands, I'm pretty sure the FA are going to sit with Thomas Soukup,
particularly after that 6-4 performance over France in that third-place playoff.
Look, let's get on to transfers.
A player that was, for me, a big talking point in the World Cup actually was Marcus Rashford
because he came on off the bench.
He scored earlier in the group stages.
Then he was basically nowhere to be seen apart from 90 seconds at the end of that semifinal.
He's not got that move to Barcelona, which I think he actually deserved.
So part of me feels for Marcus Rashford because he's been under so much pressure when he was at United.
He was clearly not in a good place.
He resurrected his career, had some fantastic performances for Barca,
knew sort of his place in the squad.
That move's not there, but there are links to some other Premier League clubs, Dan.
Yeah, no, there are a few.
There are a few, certainly in Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs.
But I mean, obviously, there's a release cause of Rashford for about £40 million,
which excludes City and Liverpool.
But I think that his preference and the club's preference is not to sell him to a Premier League rival
if they have to part with him.
I think also the situation has drastically changed since Michael Carrick's back,
with under Ruben Amirim there was this idea that both him, Omar Barrada and Jason Moorcock
were inclined to try and move away from that and sort of turn a new leaf.
And also the fact that he's on these astronomical wages,
but he hasn't really been performing to the degree of a player that is on those wages.
Probably a reason why Barcelona didn't actually go and extend that.
Because with Manchester United back in the Champions League,
they don't get a 25% cut in the players' wages.
You're getting rid of people like Casemiro, but if you bring Marcus Rashford back into the fold,
that's £325,000 a week.
That's working out about £19 million a year.
And with UEFA's sort of rules and how you basically have to fit players into your budget
where you're spending, that's a lot of money that needs to be accounted for
and needs to be brought in.
And when you've got rid of all these players to then have to then be burdened with that,
I think it's a challenge for the club.
But Carrick played with him.
You know, Carrick's last game, I think he got near-base.
It wasn't quite an assist, but it was almost an assist for Marcus Rashford.
Played in Man United colours and then managed him for three and a half years.
So do you think that changes things in any way?
I think if Carrick was the only person making said decision,
I think he would have Marcus Rashford in there.
Do you think Rashford would have that?
Yeah.
I think Rashford would be more than happy to stay at Man United.
I think Marcus Rashford, when he went to Barcelona, said,
the only other place I wanted to go was Barcelona or Man United.
And there's already been some interest in Turkey,
which has apparently turned down for even more money than he's on his contract.
And I don't think Marcus Rashford's brand, or maybe his own Man United fandom,
I don't know whether it is brand or fandom, which way you fall on that.
But come what may, I get the impression that Marcus Rashford
would either like to be in Manchester United or at a big European club.
And I think that maybe you can make the case that the only one
that might be able to tempt him just because he's 28
and he can get in there and sort of, you know, get on the front foot
and really try and win some stuff is Arsenal.
But, you know, whether Arsenal are going to be able to pay that
and whether Arsenal want him there, I mean, they are sniffing around.
But again, whether Man United are going to sell him
to strengthen them and weaken themselves.
And on top of that, Somerville was one of the players
they were looking into on that left-hand side.
I mean, they just signed Tiny Thompson, a young kid from Spurs.
But Somerville is now off to Saudi.
So I think it's a really interesting one.
But I think from the Man United fan base is splitting it,
and I actually think internally the club, they're probably split on it
in terms of what Carrick wants versus what some of the senior figures
behind the scenes want to do in terms of wage bill and budget
and trying to balance the books, I guess.
Tomane wouldn't try and tempt him to Napoli.
You never know. He's not Scottish, unfortunately.
So they can't play for Napoli.
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Another big conversation post-World Cup
that we've been having a little bit of fun with on Talkspot, of course,
is there are lots of Argentinian stars returning to England.
Now public enemy number one, whether it's Enzo Fernandes, Valentin Barco,
gone from Strasbourg to Chelsea, as you'd expect.
Cristian Romero, we don't know where he's going to be.
But the future of Emi Martínez in particular is still up in the air.
I thought he was going to United last season.
He seemed to give a big farewell to Villa Park at the end of last season.
Didn't happen. What's the latest on his future?
I think, well, it seems to me that the club don't really want to get rid.
I mean, the director of football, Damian Vidigani,
said that he's insisted Martínez is not for sale.
It was a similar thing at the end of last season, as you say.
And Juventus were sniffing around then as well.
And Juventus are the club that he'll be most likely to go to now
if he were to leave Villa Park.
But I think the reality is that, as you say,
I mean, there was that kind of slightly tempestuous period
at the start of last season with Martínez when there was, you know,
the classic, why are you starting Bizotte?
And so that slightly peculiar interaction with Unai Emery
in the press conference.
So, look, I think that realistically, a lot of the sources in Italy,
Sky Italia, saying that, you know, they've agreed personal terms,
because, like I said, they're a sport,
saying that, you know, it's sort of reached breaking point
and he's fallen out with Aston Villa.
Whether that's the case, I mean, Unai Emery has shown time and time again
that he's been able to sort of manage and reintegrate players
in difficult dressing rooms.
I mean, he's probably an elite man manager.
But I think, and it's a fascinating one as well,
because, of course, Juventus are not in the Champions League next season,
Aston Villa are.
But I think perhaps just for his prestige,
he wants to play at one of these big European clubs.
It's a tough old summer for Villa, because, you know, Martínez,
who's, like, I've got loads of Villa mates,
they absolutely love him.
He's heroic.
Morgan Rodgers is gone.
And then Arsenal potentially, Thielmann's gone to United, exactly.
And now, actually, Konza's being linked sort of to Arsenal,
which you can understand what we've done with,
what's his name, did his back?
Saliba.
Saliba's got his back.
So what, can you see that happening, Konza to Arsenal?
Well, the thing is as well, I mean, the fact is with Villa,
they've got a lot of financial constraints,
and they've been sanctioned by UEFA,
which means that they then have to try and balance the books
for the next two years.
Obviously, with Rodgers coming in, I mean,
they've got Manzambi coming over, the Swiss international
that's shot at the World Cup, he's 20,
really good ball-carrying midfielder.
I think the one with Konza is, it depends the degree to which,
because ideally going into a Champions League season,
they would like to start Paulo Torres and Esri Konza
in the two centre-back positions.
I think the question will be whether Arsenal can get up
to, say, that sort of 50, 60 million mark that Villa want,
because if they can get the money in,
that then enables them to spend again.
Let's talk of Stones as well.
Yeah, Stones for Arsenal.
I mean, it's potential.
They're going to have to fill someone to fill that squad.
I mean, they do have a lot of very good defenders,
but the fact is that, you know, competing on four fronts again
as they'd like to go, you know, I'm sure Arteta
has big ambitions for this season.
Stones would probably be a cheap one.
You've seen him do it in the earlier part of Arteta's tenure
with players like Sinchenko, getting them that city connection,
perhaps, and that one would make sense.
It doesn't seem to be that advanced as of yet,
but I think they're kind of trying to see
what their options are,
and we're seeing it across the board now
where things are starting to go a little bit mental
after the World Cup.
I mean, the thing is with Villa as well,
they seem to be trying to get Garnaccio in,
because they are a little bit like going forward
on the other end.
Well, Emery Stedt have really, really wanted him,
and I know Garnaccio, and I understand why he's,
you know, people don't particularly like him
because maybe some of the attitude stuff
we've seen in the past,
but I just don't think you can write a player like Garnaccio
off just yet.
He's 22 years old.
And Unai Emery's an absolute class act.
So I kind of think you've got to give some players
a little bit of grace to improve.
He's young.
He's paid a lot of money.
And just really quickly,
because I've got to mention my beloved Forrest,
in advanced talks with Ousmane Diomande from Sporting,
I mean, that would be an unbelievable sign.
It would be an unbelievable sign.
Unai was sniffing around him a few years ago.
He was part of Ruben Amirim's team when he was there.
He's been in the team of the season
the last couple of years,
at 23, 24, 24, 25, I think.
Really talented player.
Went with Ivory Coasters squad.
And if you look at the fact
that Glasner's going to be wanting to play
with a three at the back,
and how good your two centre-backs have been,
Milinkovic and Murillo,
having him being able to spot on,
sort of in that right position,
great with both feet.
Really physical, really good, and really young.
The upsides of getting a player like that in are phenomenal.
The fact that he knows how to play in a three at the back.
The fact that he's kind of in and around his national team.
I mean, he's incredibly highly rated.
I think United rimmed him with the first season
they got Amirim in.
And it was the sort of player that I think a lot of people
are quite interested in across Europe.
So for us to get that one over the line,
would be absolutely phenomenal.
For me, that is...
For me, it's massively important that...
Glasner's been after him for ages.
If Glasner can get him in,
I think it's really important for the relationship
between him and Maranakis,
because of course he'll have come in on the proviso
that money is going to be spent.
Dan, mate, thank you so much for joining us.
Absolute pleasure.
TalkSport reporter Dan Walters
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