Just as a false report claiming that Hu Jintao and his entire family had been poisoned to death sent shockwaves across the internet, another chilling rumor began circulating—that Wen Jiabao and his family were once again under investigation. Why, at this particularly sensitive moment, have Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao suddenly become the focus of such rumors and attacks? Is there any credibility to these claims? And if Xi Jinping really intends to move against the Party’s senior elders, what kind of consequences could that ultimately bring? NOTE: Thumbnail for illustration purpose only! Be sure to subscribe for more in-depth content about China! / @chinainsider-tv 00:00 - Intro 00:38 - Rumors Swirl That Wen Jiabao’s Entire Family Has Been Detained 06:18 - What Is the Purpose of These Rumors? 09:41 - After the Fall of Zhang and Liu, Who Is Really Leading the Military? #xijinping#wenjiabao
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The video discusses recent sensational rumors claiming that former Chinese leaders Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao, along with their families, have been purged or detained. It analyzes these claims as potential psychological warfare orchestrated by Xi Jinping's propaganda apparatus to weaken political opposition ahead of the fifth plenum and Beidaihe meetings.
Just as a false report claiming that Hu Jintao and his entire family had been poisoned to death
sent shockwaves across the internet, another chilling rumor began circulating,
that Wen Jiabao and his family were once again under investigation.
Why, at this particularly sensitive moment, have Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao suddenly become the focus
of such rumors and attacks? Is there any credibility to these claims? And if Xi Jinping
really intends to move against the party's senior elders, what kind of consequences
could that ultimately bring? Let's break it all down in today's program.
Rumors swirl that Wen Jiabao's entire family has been detained. On August 1st, an AI-generated
image suddenly began circulating online under the title, Progress in the Corruption Investigation
of John Paley. It contained a barrage of extremely sensational and alarming claims.
The image alleged that an investigation into John Paley had already been underway for four years,
and that because members of her family had recently shown abnormal activity,
the relevant authorities had now made up their minds to bring her down.
It went on to claim that investigators had uncovered more than 13 tons of jewelry and
diamonds beneath the waterproof layer of the swimming pool at John Paley's residence,
along with another 21 tons of gold. It further alleged that John had refused to cooperate with
investigators and even displayed a demeanor reminiscent of Jiang Qing. At the same time,
the image claimed that Wen Jiabao had been placed in separate isolation, while his son,
Wen Yunsong, was highly cooperative with the investigation and had adopted a very proactive
attitude. His daughter, Wen Ruchen, was said to have attempted to jump from a building,
but survived, suffering severe injuries and partial paralysis due to damage to the upper
spinal cord. The image also claimed that John Paley's two younger brothers were both implicated
in the case. One had allegedly hanged himself while the other had attempted to kill himself,
but survived. Both, it said, were now under official control. In addition, it claimed that
Wen Yunsong's daughter-in-law and Wen Ruchen's son-in-law had also been detained and placed
under investigation, among other allegations. Put simply, the story painted a picture of the
entire Wen Jiabao family being torn apart, supposedly crushed by Xi Jinping's iron-fisted
anti-corruption campaign. As a result, many accounts on the overseas platform X,
accounts of unclear origin, suddenly began reposting the same information at roughly the
same time. The coordinated pattern was striking, giving the clear impression that someone was
trying to manufacture a major wave of public opinion. Of course, these frightening claims
sound implausible even at first glance. Whoever fabricated the story may not even have had a basic
sense of how enormous a physical volume, 13 tons of jewelry plus 21 tons of gold, would actually
occupy if piled together. In an effort to grab attention, the rumor makers seem to have relied
on a kind of the emperor must use a golden hoe to till the soil mentality, inventing a string of
absurdly exaggerated details about supposed corruption and then releasing them online.
According to Tang Jingyuan, Xi Jinping's overseas propaganda apparatus receives funding amounting to
at least tens of billions each year. Yet, he argues, it has somehow produced a group of people whose
rumor-making is so crude and amateurish that they resemble nothing more than a second-rate
theatrical troupe. From that perspective, he says, it is hardly surprising that they would
be unable to compete with the political camp associated with senior figures such as Hu Jintao,
Wen Jiabao, and Wang Yan. What is more notable, however, is that this rumor clearly appeared in
tandem with the claim that Hu Jintao and his entire family had been poisoned and wiped out.
The two narratives reinforce one another and were circulated at roughly the same time.
The degree of coordination is unusually high, and both are aimed directly at who and when,
portraying each of them as having suffered a devastating political blow.
Tang Jingyuan argues that the timing is particularly significant. The date of the
fifth plenum has just been officially set, while the annual Beidaihe meeting is also approaching.
Against that backdrop, a sudden wave of concentrated attacks targeting Hu Jintao
and Wen Jiabao, he says, reveals several things. First, in his view, it suggests that Xi Jinping
currently sees Hu and Wen, not Wang Qishan or Zhu Rongji, as his greatest political opponents
and the biggest obstacles to his remaining in power. This, Tang argues, supports the claim
that Hu and Wen are the leading figures of an anti-Xi faction and the core force behind efforts
to purge or weaken Xi's political loyalists, often referred to as the Xi family army.
That, he says, is why the attacks are aimed directly at the two of them.
What does that tell us? According to Tang's interpretation, the upcoming fifth plenum is
indeed closely connected to Hu and Wen. Moreover, he argues that the meeting is likely to be highly
unfavorable to Xi Jinping. The moment the date of the fifth plenum was finalized, Xi's overseas
propaganda network, in his telling, immediately launched a major offensive against Hu and Wen.
He therefore believes there must be a causal relationship between the two developments.
If Xi Jinping truly still held absolute power and remained the unquestioned supreme authority,
as many commentators continue to insist, then, Tang argues, there would be no reason for him to
be so nervous about Hu Jintao, whom Xi publicly had escorted out of the Congress Hall several
years ago, or Wen Jiabao, who has been retired for 14 years, has long been removed from frontline
politics, has already suffered serious damage to his public reputation, and is now in his 80s.
Yet the current intensity of the attacks on Hu and Wen gives the impression of something
entirely different, as though Xi were confronting a major and immediate political threat.
What is the purpose of these rumors? Tang Jingyuan argues that the Chinese Communist Party's top
leadership has now entered the Beidaihe period. He points out that today's Xinhua front page
contains no reports on officials at the vice state level or above. The People's Daily does
carry a story about Li Qing chairing a state council executive meeting, but that meeting
actually took place the previous day. In Tang's view, this shows how carefully timed the attacks
on Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao have been. The fifth plenum was just announced, the Beidaihe meetings
are beginning, and these rumors appeared immediately afterward. That suggests this
year's Beidaihe gathering could be especially tense. Questions about the Wen family's wealth
are nothing new. They were already being circulated when Hu and Wen were still in power.
Yet even then, Wen Jiabao was never seriously touched. Tang argues that business activity
among relatives of senior officials has long been common within the system, and traces this back to
an old party understanding that political and economic influence should remain in the hands
of trusted red families. So why revive the Wen family's financial issues now at such a sensitive
moment? Tang believes the main purpose is psychological warfare against the anti-Xi camp.
The internal struggle between what he describes as two competing central leaderships remains
highly opaque, to the point that many officials may not fully understand the balance of power.
Some still believe Xi Jinping firmly controls everything, while others may be unsure how strong
the anti-Xi faction really is. From that perspective, sensational stories claiming
that Hu and Wen have already been politically destroyed could be designed to shake the
confidence of their supporters. An official hearing such rumors might think, if Hu and Wen
have already been taken down, and even their families are being targeted, should I switch
sides and declare loyalty to Xi in order to protect myself? Tang says that is the real objective.
Weaken morale, fracture support for the anti-Xi elders, and encourage defections.
Tang has previously claimed that a body known as the Central Decision-Making and
Deliberation Coordination Group is, in effect, what he calls the anti-Xi central leadership.
According to his account, it was formally established inside the party after Xi's
authority had been weakened, and Xi himself publicly endorsed its creation. Tang further
claims that Wen Jiabao heads this group, with Wang Yang serving as executive deputy leader.
Another important but low-profile figure, he says, is Li Yuan, the eldest son of former
Chinese President Liu Shaoqi. According to Tang, Li Yuan played a particularly important role after
Zhang Youxia ran into political trouble. He claims that at a critical moment, the military chose to
support this alternative decision-making center rather than Xi's leadership, frustrating Xi's
attempt to regain full control of the armed forces. Tang points to one detail as evidence.
Since the reported downfall of Zhang Youxia, Xi Jinping has not inspected a single military unit.
For roughly seven months, he says, Xi has made no such visit, something Tang considers highly unusual.
After the fall of Zhang and Liu, who is really leading the military?
Tang Jingyuan argues that although Zhang Shengmin is currently vice chairman of the Central Military
Commission, his background is mainly in discipline inspection. Within the military, especially among
actual combat units, he has relatively limited seniority and influence. In Tang's view, that
makes it unlikely that Zhang Shengmin could become the military's true leader. Instead, Tang argues
that the de facto figure at the top is Liu Yuan. Liu Yuan has long been a highly mysterious and low
profile figure. According to Tang, since the third plenum, when Xi Jinping was allegedly incapacitated
by a stroke, Liu Yuan has been deeply involved in the alliance between Zhang Youxia and senior party
elders. After He Weidong was reportedly removed, Tang claims that Liu Yuan effectively took over
the political work system within the Central Military Commission. In other words, before Zhang
Youxia later ran into trouble, Zhang was responsible for military affairs, while Liu Yuan quietly
handled the political side behind the scenes. After Zhang Youxia's downfall, Liu Yuan allegedly
became the key intermediary linking the military with what Tang calls the Central Decision-Making
and Deliberation Coordination Group. Tang argues that Liu Yuan is particularly suited to this role
because of his unusual background. He is a second generation, red elite, has administrative
experience in both party and government institutions, and once served as governor of Henan.
He is currently also a member of the National People's Congress Financial and Economic Affairs
At the same time, Liu has substantial military experience, having previously served as political
commissar of the PLA General Logistics Department. With this combination of political status,
military credentials, and extensive connections, Tang describes him as an unusually well-positioned
and important figure. Tang also points to what he considers indirect evidence.
On July 31, 2025, just before China's Army Day on August 1, the Ministry of National Defense
held a reception. Liu Yuan made a rare appearance there wearing military uniform.
In photos from the event, he was seated at one of the large round tables reserved for prominent
figures. This was especially notable because Liu had effectively been moved into semi-retirement
back in March 2016, when Xi Jinping transferred him to the National People's Congress.
Yet nine years later, Liu Yuan reappeared in uniform at the PLA's Baiyi Building,
seated at one of the prominent tables. Tang sees this as indirect evidence that Liu Yuan has,
in some form, returned to the military establishment, and that the political
force operating behind him is the coordination body mentioned earlier.
What do you think of this analysis? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.
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