A Conversation with Matt Schlapp and special guests Sec. Betsy DeVos and Pastor Darrell Scott

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Jul 25, 2026
Welcome to another episode of CPAC Live.
We all mourn the passing of John Lewis, who somebody is a true civil rights hero.
I think President Bush said it best when he said that we all had a lot of political disagreements
with John Lewis, but that doesn't diminish his role in our history working towards racial
equality.
I have to say as a conservative and as a Republican, I'm very proud of my party's history when
it comes to embracing the idea of one man, one vote, one person, one vote, that all of
us are created equal.
The whole concept of America's founding and the whole concept of the Republican Party's
founding is consistent with this idea of human dignity, even though our country, of course,
started off with the birth defect of slavery, something that we fought a civil war over.
Abraham Lincoln led us ably, kept the union together, brought it back together, and then
we eventually passed three amendments to the Constitution.
That's how conservatives wish to change the Constitution, by doing the constitutionally
authorized process of passing amendments, giving African Americans, Blacks the right,
ending slavery, giving them the right to vote, and allowing them, obviously, to be citizens
in every way.
But I think when you see these Democrats go to these funerals, which are great and solemn
occasions and important occasions for all of us, I think, number one, it brought home
the fact that when you had governors saying you can't have funerals, that was really a
tragic decision.
You need to have funerals.
People need to be honored.
It's not just Democrats need to be honored.
All Americans should be allowed to be honored.
The second thing is, I don't think a funeral is a great place or appropriate place to have
a political rally.
The Democrats have done this on any number of occasions, and I had the chance to listen
to Barack Obama's eulogy, which was much more of a political campaign type of rally than
a eulogy.
And it reminded me how much harm President Obama has done to this country.
He could have been a man of history and is a man of history as our first elected Black
president.
But he really created more racial animosity than any of this healing that I think he tries
to claim credit for.
And when he took to the podium and said that basically the filibuster is a vestige of Jim
Crow racism in this country, it just brought it all home.
Barack Obama had no problem with the filibuster when Republicans had majorities in the House
and Senate and President Trump was in the White House.
He didn't say a word about the filibuster because the Democrats used the filibuster
to try to stop President Trump's agenda, never brought it up.
Now that there's a House majority under Nancy Pelosi and the squad, and a lot of coverage
about how Schumer could be making gains and maybe even get the majority in the Senate,
I'm not predicting that, but it's certainly in the realm of possibilities.
Now Obama takes a stand and cloaks racism around this concept of the filibuster because
then if Republicans in a minority try to use the filibuster, it'll be seen as racist.
This kind of logic is not lost on the practical and common sense minded American people.
They understand that they're just tossing out racism in a cheap way for a political
gain of the Democratic Party whose history is all about racism.
And that's kind of the point, isn't it?
Which is if the filibuster needs to be scrapped because it's a vestige of Jim Crow, doesn't
the Democratic Party need to be scrapped as the creators of Jim Crow?
Or do we get to understand our past and our history and move forward and make progress?
It's good that the Democratic Party has moved away from Jim Crow.
And it's good that the Republican Party has moved forward and made changes itself in some
of its positions.
One of the positions that the Republican Party has embraced is understanding the right to
life of the unborn, a very important thing.
People can change over time, but if we're not going to allow entities or parties to
ever make changes and make up for the past, then let's be consistent about it.
And when we go to funerals, let's pray for the person who's lost their struggle and pray
for their families.
And let's leave the political speeches to political conventions if they'll ever let
us have those again.
We're going to be right back with the Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, and after her,
we're going to be joined by Pastor Daryl Scott.
Both are great friends, great friends of CPAC.
We'll be right back at you after this video.
If schools do not reopen, the funding should go to parents to send their child to public,
private, charter, religious or homeschool of their choice.
The key word being choice.
If the school is closed, the money should follow the student.
So the parents and families are in control of their own decisions.
So we'd like the money to go to the parents of the student.
This way they can make the decision that's best for them.
We're now joined by the Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos.
Madam Secretary, thanks for being on CPAC Live.
Thanks, Matt.
It's great to be with you.
We were just chit-chatting over the fact that Mercy and I have five kids and, you know,
they went through this experiment of online learning.
Some of them did better than others, but all of them really hated it.
And the young ones, it's particularly tough on because they're just not getting that social
interaction. And it's easier in our house because they have a lot of other kids to hang
out with. But what's your message to parents who are going through this
terrible struggle of trying to figure out what their school districts are going to do and
how they're going to balance that decision with those who have to figure out a way to go
to their own jobs?
Well, Matt, the bottom line message is this.
Parents and kids can't be held captive to others' fears or agendas.
And we're seeing much too much of this developing in districts across the
country. When given a choice of two days a week in person, in class or zero
days, and then the decision later in Fairfax County, for example, to go to all online,
that's simply not tenable for all too many kids and all too many families.
Parents have got to raise their voices and, you know, articulate their
expectations for their kids.
Kids have got to be in school.
They've got to be with their friends.
They've got to be with their teachers.
That is where they are going to be healthiest.
Ultimately, we know that that this can be done safely and it can be done well.
It's just a matter of how in each specific location.
I had the opportunity to visit a school in the Raleigh, North Carolina
area with the vice president a couple of days ago.
And we visited a fourth grade classroom and these kids were so excited to be back
in school. This is a year round model.
So they normally would come back in July.
And and I asked these fourth graders, what was the best thing about coming back to
school? And to a person, they said, being with my friends, being with seeing my
friends, being together with my friends.
It was so fun to see their their joy just with being back together.
You know, that is so true.
My 10 year old is very, very social.
And what I noticed in her is they really get down when they can't be with their
friends and do sports and they like to do music and theater.
And, you know, you would really see the emotion come out of them when they're when
they're not able to be with their kids.
You know, we're often lectured to by national education unions and stuff that it's
all about the kids.
But what's interesting in this debate is it seems like many people are not talking
about the kids in the sense that kids are really not.
Very fortunately, kids are really not those most vulnerable to this virus.
Right. Exactly.
None of the data shows that kids are at risk or great risk at all.
They've been getting the virus in the lowest percentage of the population.
And there's lots of evidence that they're not passing it on and transmitting it to
others. And so the focus needs to be on ensuring that they can get back into
classrooms, back into routines and thinking of the most vulnerable students, the
ones who really do need that structure and routine the most.
How perpetuating this distance experience is going to only have them fall farther
and farther and farther behind.
This is a long term.
This has major long term implications for our country.
If we don't get this right, going into this new academic year and we have got to
all parents have got to urge their schools to do the right thing for their students
and where they're where they simply refuse to.
Parents have to have choices and they have to be able to find the situation that's
going to work for their family.
And they have to be able to take the resources meant for their child to go do
just that. And you oversee a lot of resources, obviously, at the Department of
Education. What can you do constructively to help those schools that really want to
be open in a safe and responsible manner and also maybe not fund people that are not
being responsible? What what tools do you have?
Well, the Department of Education has very few tools to actually assist schools
directly. But we have given the maximum amount of flexibility possible,
recognizing that these solutions are best decided at the most local level.
And, of course, Congress has appropriated through the CARES Act over 13 billion
dollars already to schools.
Only 2 percent of it has actually been drawn down.
So there's more resources there to do the things necessary in the classrooms to get
ready for kids being there and for teachers being there.
And we we have continued to help with technical assistance for anyone who is
requesting it. And, of course, the CDC and other health and medical organizations
have provided very good input and very good things, reference tools to help
individual education leaders decide what's going to work best in their in their
environment and in their particular situation.
Yeah, so what you're saying is, is that consistent with our philosophy is not every
education decision needs to be made in the Department of Education.
We love the idea of local control, but it is ironic that homeschooling has always
been a choice. And many people on the left have often said it's a terrible choice.
Now they seem comfortable with it for everybody, as long as it's mandated by many
of these areas.
And what you're basically saying is let parents choose.
Exactly. For those parents who know that it's best for their children to be learning
in person five days a week in a classroom, they should have that opportunity and that
option. And we know it can be done safely.
And for those who are concerned because their child has some underlying health
vulnerability, well, they should have a very robust, full time, online, distance
learning option, or they should be able to, you know, group up with a small group of
friends and other families to form their own kind of, you know, approach.
I'm hearing about these different pods that are forming up and homeschooling has
certainly taken a great interest for a lot of people.
The point is, I think if anything, if we've learned anything in the last five, six
months, it's that education, K-12 education in particular, has got to be much more
nimble, nimble and much more flexible for all students, acknowledging that all
students are unique and different and that education has to reflect that.
Yeah, that's totally right.
One of the things that we've all read about and as parents we're concerned about is
how much screen time a kid gets.
And one of the downsides of online schooling is that kids are now spending much, many
more hours than is recommended by professionals looking at screens, interacting with
screens. And then, of course, they're doing their recreation on screens.
And then for, like my daughters, they're doing any extracurricular activities on
screens. If you look at the screen time, it's pretty alarming.
What are the, you know, you and I aren't doctors, but for those people, those medical
professionals, when you talk to them, are they alarmed at the fact that you might be
pushing too much screen time on our kids?
Well, I think it's a concern for all parents, isn't it?
And I know that many parents have found themselves in the position of actually
advocating much more screen time than they know is really good or healthy for their
child, simply because they had to do other things or, you know, they were having to do
the lessons as distributed by the local district.
And again, I think this is these are very important and healthy questions that parents
need to be asking about their kids and their future.
And collectively, education leaders need to be looking at how they provide robust,
full-time education in a distance environment for those who need it and doing so where
it's not going to be an overload on screen time.
How can we use the out of doors in a whole new way?
And how can we utilize a lot of the different resources?
I think, you know, you think about museums and I know that many of them are still closed
and things, but I'm hopeful that people are going to figure out creative ways of giving
access to so many resources that are available in our own hometowns and, you know, in
our neighboring communities so that kids can learn in ways that are going to continue
to challenge them and that families are going to be able to have the choices and the
options that are right for their family at that particular time.
So I keep hearing from you, not that Betsy DeVos wants to tell parents what to do or
local school districts what to do.
But what I hear from you is a very stout defense on the fact that if parents want to
have in-person learning, they have the right to have that.
Is that correct?
Well, yes. I mean, education is a promise that we make to students and parents.
And if they're if the if the other end of the deal is not if they're not holding their
end of the deal, parents need to have those resources to take to ways and environments
that are actually going to provide that education opportunity.
So, yes, I think all students need to have in-person a robust, full-time, in-person
opportunity. And for those for whom it just doesn't work for whatever reason, they need
to have options, too.
The one of the things that your colleague Bill Barr has off has also done is make sure
through the Trump administration that religious institutions aren't held to a higher bar
than secular institutions.
And so what's happening in the D.C.
area, in the Catholic diocese that my family is affiliated with, these schools are by
and large opening five days a week with new protocols for the health concerns, valid
health concerns with this virus.
But I fear trying to look around the corner that some will try to say that's an unsafe
environment and take the bishop or the diocese on for for having those schools open.
This could happen all over the country, both in public schools and in parochial schools.
As we go forward, hopefully this won't happen.
But what are parents going to do if this turns into a legal clash?
And who in the administration is thinking through what would be the proper constitutional
steps for the president?
Well, we know we know that many small faith based schools are actually there's a lot
more interest in families being able to access them.
And the concern, frankly, right now is that for many kids whose families do want to, they
simply can't afford to be able to send their children there.
And so, again, I go back to the point made earlier that families and parents need to be
able to have options if their school, if their particular school, their assigned school
or the district in which they live is not going to meet their needs.
They need to be able to take resources and go to a school that is going to meet their
needs. And and so the administration has been very vigorous in its defense of of the
independence of faith based schools and institutions and will continue to be.
But, you know, I think the point here and I'll go back to the school that I visited
with the vice president earlier was a private school and had decided that this was the
right thing for their students.
And of course, they have great demand on the part of other families who want to have
their kids there as well.
The fact that there is that kind of demand there was before, there's increasing demand
now continues to suggest that parents have got to be given a lot more control over their
children's education and their educational futures.
And I think that this this coronavirus pandemic is bringing a lot more focus to the
fact that this is just simply not happening in too many places.
And there are too many places that are are letting families down.
Betsy DeVos, we know we have to let you get back to your busy schedule.
But as one final question, there's so much depressing, so much tragedy associated with
this coronavirus outbreak.
But maybe sometimes out of great evil, sometimes people do things that create some
real good. Do you think out of the tragedy that's really racked our economy, so many
families, maybe those folks involved in education, mostly parents, maybe we'll see
some reforms that have been needed for a long time.
We'll try to make the best of a bad situation.
I think there's I think there will be many silver linings to what has been a very
difficult period to navigate and tragedy for many families.
And, you know, I think that's how a lot of Americans look at challenges.
Right. We're a can-do country.
We find solutions when we're faced with problems.
And I think that this is going to be borne out in the whole realm of education.
And I think that's going to be to the benefit.
It has to be to the benefit of kids ultimately and their futures.
Well, I just want to applaud your courage to to even serve in these times of political
meanness and nastiness, but also for your courage specifically to stand up for parents
and kids who want to go back to five day a week in-person schooling.
And that that appreciation goes to the president as well, who sure takes a ration
every day for doing what's right for our kids and our families.
Thanks for joining us, Betsy DeVos on CPAC Live.
You're a great friend of ours and we appreciate all you do.
Thanks so much, Matt. Thanks for having me.
And we're going to be right back with Pastor Daryl Scott after this short video.
We're now joined by Pastor Daryl Scott of the New Spirit Revival Center, someone you
see on TV all the time, a very bold and courageous conservative who always has
interesting opinions on what's going on in the world.
And Pastor Scott, thanks for joining us today.
Thanks for having me, man.
My pleasure. You and I have had so many great conversations without cameras on.
So we're going to attempt to have one with the cameras rolling.
But I can't talk to you without initially saying because I haven't talked to you since
all this Black Lives Matter violence across the country has started in all of our major
cities. What's your reaction to what's what's happening to these families and businesses
that that occupy these cities?
First, let me go on record as stating that Black Lives Matter as a slogan, as a saying,
as a precept, as a truth, the slogan itself is very noble.
The slogan itself, even though I would add a suffix to it and say Black Lives Matter
to or Black Lives Matter as well.
However, the organization itself, no, they're using their slogan as a cover for a lot of
nefarious, insidious, underhanded criminal intent for whatever their purposes are.
They're using that slogan as a cover to mask their true intent, which is to undermine the
fabric of American society.
This protest, this violence, this destruction, this mayhem, this chaos, this anarchy, it's
ridiculous. It's despicable.
And I applaud the president's efforts.
First of all, the president speaking out against it.
And then I applaud his efforts to counteract and nullify it as well.
But it's it's it's horrible.
It's despicable. It's something that has no place in American society.
So when you see these ball diamonds or basketball courts with the slogan Black Lives
Matter, knowing who is behind it, who's funding it, who's running it, should the
American people say, hey, you know, it's true that Black Lives Matter and I should and I
should be comfortable with watching that?
Or are we being manipulated by these Marxists with a nice slogan?
And should we turn away when we see the slogan on our television sets and, you know,
just all throughout sports now?
I'm going to be honest, Matt.
I've been a sports fan all my life, but it's turning me off to sports.
When I see this, you know, this whole Black Lives Matter and the NBA and NFL and MLB,
it's dumb, flat out dumb.
And, you know, you have a bunch of kids.
These athletes are a lot of kids that are coming in, trying to form and shape American
society according to their own immature mindset, that when they're older, when they
get to be of a different age, they'll look back and tell themselves that what they were
doing was pretty ridiculous.
You know, the NBA and the other sports agencies, it's not about black to them.
It's about green.
They don't want to alienate a fan base.
And they're caving into social pressure and they're doing things.
They're putting a bandaid on something that actually needs surgery.
And it's pretty ridiculous.
And they'll look back on it and say they're ridiculous.
You know, I had a conversation with Jim Brown maybe about a year ago because Jim Brown
was very socially active in the 60s.
He took a different approach and he and some other athletes.
And I said, Jim, why are the athletes of today so different than the athletes of your
generation? And Jim said, well, because the athletes of my generation, the professional
athletes all had college degrees.
They were all graduates where you have a lot of these guys that really haven't even
really picked up a book since middle school.
They've been coddled, nurtured, pampered because they knew they were going to wind up
playing basketball. And so they were able to take easy classes just to get through high
school, do one and done in college, go straight to the NBA.
And now they're all of a sudden speaking to masses and they really don't have much
substance to what they want to say.
So they follow after they put it's ridiculous.
It's also a function of the fact that even when they did go to colleges, you know,
these colleges are not what they were.
These colleges have become so radicalized in the curriculum.
It's become so watered down that you literally can spend a lot of time in courses
that it's like radicalism for dummies.
Yeah, absolutely right. You know, my grandchildren just turned 18 and they're going
to college. But one thing I do with them during high school and I'm going to continue
to do with them in college and I did it with my daughter when she went to college.
Well, you learn you get educated at college, but you get socialized at home.
And so your social interactions are going to be based upon the foundation we built for
you as parents and as grandparents to walk in.
You're not going to allow these liberal college professors and these these semi kooks
to form and shape your worldview.
No. And, you know, we have a Christian base with it as well.
So that Christian base is going to under under a gird.
There are social interaction, too.
Isn't it a tragedy, Pastor, that if I think of the two institutions that could help
black Americans the most, it's the family and the church.
Those are the two institutions that are really going to be salvation for these young
kids who are struggling in cities that are so dysfunctional.
And and that those are the two institutions that Black Lives Matter Incorporated seems
to criticize the most in their really disgusting manifesto of their beliefs.
They think that the family is, you know, paternalistic, evil part of Western
civilization. I don't know how they get to that.
And the church ripping down statues of Jesus and Mary and beheading the saints of the
church and saying Christopher Columbus was terrible because he brought Christianity.
To this part of the world, I just you know, it's kind of like what's up is down.
You know, what's your reaction to that as a pastor?
Well, first of all, Black Lives Matter wants to replace the authority figures or the
moral compasses of the black community with their own, for lack of a better term,
theology or their own sociology.
So we have to undermine the family.
When I say we, I mean, they they have to undermine the family structure and they have
to undermine the fiber or the fabric of the church in order to replace the church and
family as a guiding or guiding figures in the lives of the black community.
They know what they're doing.
They have an affairs intent behind all of their activity.
You know, I'm a Christian pastor, so I'll say it this way.
They're being used by the devil.
The devil is using them to continue to subvert and to subjugate and to dominate the
black community. They're using violence, they're using chaos, destruction, but they're
also using peer pressure and they're using ignorance.
Now, when I say ignorance, I'm not saying stupidity.
When I say ignorance, I'm saying it in a sense of being unlearned.
The average man on the street, someone that's in an inner city community and they might be
experiencing poverty or distress in their life, they're not going to read that entire
manifesto. They're just going to hear the words Black Lives Matter and think to
themselves that this is the way to go.
It's almost a fad, but they're capitalizing upon this fad to take advantage of an entire
community to try to undermine, once again, the fabric of American society and promote
liberalism, to promote different agendas that are in contradistinction to the
fabric. You know, it's interesting you say liberalism, but I think it's even worse than
that because kind of your old fashioned liberal like the idea of each individual having
the ability to make decisions in their life.
This new kind of radicalized leftist agitator wants to shut you down.
And one of the ways they, the people they seem to hate the most are people like you
who are black voices who are contrary to theirs.
You know, I looked at a recent Gallup poll that when you take the donkey and the elephant
out of the equation, the big parties in America and they asked black Americans, you
know what their ideology was, 25 percent of blacks in this poll, which I assume is even
underrated, 25 percent of blacks said they were conservative.
Yes. That doesn't surprise you, does it?
No, it doesn't. Actually, the number is much higher because I'm just being a lot of
black people. We don't take polls.
We don't do polls.
I told a joke, I told a joke to Jared Kushner one time talking about the black community.
I said, when someone knocks on your door, Jared, what do you do?
He said, I go to the door.
I said, when someone knocks on a black person's door, we go to the window.
We go to the window first to see who's at the door.
So, you know, we shy away from polls and different things like that.
But, you know, blacks are conservative by nature because of our church upbringing, our
church foundation. We are very conservative by nature.
We identify conservatism more as practice than party.
But when people try to attach our conservatism to a particular party and then they say
that particular party is against us, then it becomes a problem.
You have to understand, and I say this all the time, in the 2016 elections, they did
not appeal to the black community on any intellectual basis to not vote for Donald
Trump. They gave us emotional reasons.
He hates you. He's a racist.
You know, I had someone come up to me one time and they were serious.
They said, you know, if Donald Trump gets reelected, we're all getting shipped back to
Africa. And I said, that's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
I couldn't do anything but shake my head.
I said, what are they going to do if he gets elected?
They're going to order all black people to report to the docks or something.
And we're getting put on a big boat and sent over to Africa and put out where it's just
dumb. Women were treated the same way.
Emotional reasons, Latinos were treated the same way.
Emotional reasons.
He hates you. He's a misogynist.
He's a sexist. He's a racist.
Now, the white man was given intellectual reasons.
The economy, terrorist foreign policy, domestic policy, all of those things.
But we were given emotional.
It played on our emotions.
And you see right here in 2020, they're playing on the emotions of the black community
again. They're trying to appeal to the black community on the basis of you are an
oppressed segment of society.
You must rise up against the oppressors.
How do we rise up against the oppressors?
Burn everything down, steal everything you can, tear up everything you can and kill
each other. It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
And, you know, some of us are buying into the victims are black business owners in
these communities. The victims are, you know, I've read these tragic stories of the
black kids and children of color who have been shot dead or victims of the violence
in other ways. You know, this that's the saddest part of all this is the victims are
black people by and large.
And I have to think that when I see these grandmothers and these tear soaked videos
about the deaths of their grandchildren because of the violence being fueled by Black
Lives Matter, I have to think that there's a lot of people in those communities that see
the violence and the radicalism as destructive.
They do. You know, the Black Lives Matter organization has turned into a combination
of ambulance chasers and shakedown artists.
And so they capitalize on events that they can cause national attention to come to, such
as when a white police officer kills a black person.
They can capitalize on that.
You have black children being killed and the black community being distressed because of
the activity of black people.
You won't hear anything on that.
But the thing that also gets me is this.
You don't hear anything about these black babies getting killed from the from the
athletes. You don't hear about it from the entertainers.
It's almost like they're complicit in the ambulance chasing.
They're complicit in the shaking down.
You know, they'll use these events to shake down the NBA, to shake down corporations, to
get money out of them and make them further and help promote their agenda.
Because they say, if you don't, you know, we'll come after you next.
But when you see, once again, these these babies getting killed, these victims of random
violence, you saw a funeral where there was a drive by shooting, 14 to 15 people got
shot. You've got a body count coming out of Chicago that reminds me of Vietnam back in
the 60s and 70s.
And and they're quiet about it.
The masses are quiet.
The masses of blacks are quiet.
And in fact, if a white person steps up and says something about it, they'll have the
nerve to tell the white person, you shut up.
This is none of your business.
You don't talk about it.
We'll handle this on our own.
But they're not handling.
You don't see that.
You don't hear the voices of the so-called black leaders, the the Al Sharpton and and
others. You don't hear them saying anything about it.
You don't see them rushing to do the funerals for these babies.
You don't see anyone trying to cover the expenses of these funerals because they can't
capitalize upon it and use it to further a racial divide in this country.
Well, as a as a man of God, I I think your words are really resound with us, but help
us understand as you talk to people in your church community, we have to have great
hope. We have a savior.
We know that he reigns.
We know that there's a there's a better life in front of us, not just this one.
Should Americans be optimistic?
Do you feel optimistic?
And do you think that out of this great tragedy of a coronavirus, Chinese Corona, you
know, this racial animosity being stoked by people who really hate America and want to
scrap America, are there enough people who love America warts and all with all of our
imperfections to get America into a better place, into a better spot?
And I don't believe that this is going to continue.
And I really don't believe that this anarchy and this chaos is going to triumph over
good. You know, as long as there are believers in the Lord, in this country, the
Lord's hand will continue to be on this country.
I don't care what anyone says.
I don't care who tried to say otherwise.
This nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
You know, I had someone contest me about that one time.
Why would you say it's Judeo-Christian?
I said the foundation of Judaism is the Ten Commandments and all of the Ten Commandments
are things that speak to us morally.
And Christianity says, love your fellow man and love God even as you love yourself.
So Judeo-Christian principles undergird this nation.
And there are enough of us, there are enough believers in the Lord and there are enough
people who believe in the American ideal, the ideals of America, that we will continue
to hold those forces of evil, those insidious, chaotic forces at bay.
And we ultimately will triumph.
You know, I find it amusing that the same people that want to disregard and disrespect
our flag wanted it lowered half-mast for John Lewis, wanted that same flag draped across
his casket. So, you know, people are confused right now.
The Bible says, without a vision, my people perish.
And there are a lot of people that don't have a vision of and for this country.
And they're being unrestrained.
You know, the flag represents the ideals.
The flag represents everything that is good about America and good about the citizenry
of America. So we don't want to disrespect and disregard that.
We're going to hold that flag up.
And there are a number of us, once again, we're going to stand strong and stand firm
against these forces of anarchy and disruption that are seeking to undermine our country.
And we will prevail, especially when we have a strong leadership that a president that
has, and I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this, that has a set of balls.
And he's not afraid.
He's not afraid here.
He's already got some trouble.
He's not afraid to stand up against this mess and say, I'm going to stand up and put a
stop to it. And you know what?
Every time he stands up and says, you know what, I'm going to put a stop to it.
You see it diminishing because they know he means business.
I got to tell you this, Pastor Scott, that I remember going out to one of our CPAC events
and this lady, this older lady and a walker maid ambled her way up to me slowly.
And I thought she was coming to talk to me.
And she said she got down into my ear and I thought she'd say, God bless you or, you
know, thank you for what you do.
And she said, tell the Republican Party to grow a pair.
So, you know, everyone's got their own way of saying it.
Pastor Darrell Scott of the New Spirit Revival Center, we really applaud your courage.
We love the fact that you're getting out there and speaking truth.
And just thank you for all you do.
And thank you for loving America.
I'm born and raised, I'm an American.
Right, I am too. And I'm proud of it.
I am too.
And I fly the flag.
And I loved your analogy about the flag.
And it's important that we have things that bring us together.
And one of the things that brings us together is the ability to respect each other and hear
from each other. And that's why we're going to keep doing this show at CPAC Live.
And another person who loved America and who is really dear to all of us and who we are
so appreciative to God that he gave him to us and we pray for his family was the great
Herman Cain. And we have a video tribute for Herman Cain.
And we thank you all for watching today.
With the approval of the one hundred and eleventh Congress.
Authorized nearly one trillion dollars.
Which was supposed to stimulate the economy and create jobs, they did all of this
spending, made government bigger, and now they want to ignore the fact that it did not
work. But I got a message for the administration.
We noticed it didn't work.
