SHOCKING: Tucker Carlson Crashes Out (It's Not Shocking)

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Jul 25, 2026
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AI GeneratedBen Shapiro presents a scathing critique of Tucker Carlson, arguing that Carlson is not a true conservative but a left-wing conspiracy theorist. Shapiro claims Carlson's focus on class warfare, his rejection of free-market capitalism, and his alignment with authoritarian foreign leaders demonstrate an ideology closer to Marxism and Bernie Sanders than to right-wing principles.
Folks, I've been saying for a long time, Tucker Carlson is not conservative.
He is not conservative.
Now, many people didn't believe me.
I get it.
The Tucker Carlson from Fox News, the guy who says he hates illegal immigration,
the one who campaigned with President Trump.
Yeah, that guy.
Well, yesterday, Tucker Carlson laid bare his true beliefs.
The mask is pretty much totally off at this point.
He no longer even really pretends to be conservative.
Tucker Carlson believes that the American system of economics is rigged by conspiratorial powers,
that we're in the middle of a class war,
and that you are being distracted by all those unimportant issues, you know,
like trans or BLM, you know, just the way all the Democratic socialists say.
Now, why is this important?
Because we are still in a battle for the soul of the conservative movement.
And Tucker is still in the ear of many people in the White House.
Listen, too many people remember the Tucker from Fox News,
or maybe the Tucker from CNN, or maybe the Tucker from MSNBC.
I think, hey, that guy seemed like a conservative,
and this guy looks physically like that guy.
But here is the thing.
Tucker Carlson is not conservative.
He just isn't.
Now, you can listen to Tucker all you want.
I get it.
He's entertaining, and he's bizarrely fascinating.
And he does an amazing job of pretending he has access to
all the conspiratorial secrets of the universe.
Also, he sells nicotine pouches made in India.
But here's the thing.
Age him up about 10 years, give him a Brooklyn accent,
and he's basically Bernie Sanders.
I have the video to prove it.
I'll explain in just one moment.
Plus, we'll get to Candace Owens apparently getting scammed for 10 grand,
Jews getting stabbed in Zoran Mamdani's New York,
and Elon Musk taking on the European media,
all that and more on today's Ben Shapiro show.
Okay, so yesterday, Tucker Carlson did an interview with Stephen A. Smith.
Pretty interesting from a wide variety of perspectives.
Tucker talked about how he had basically given up on Trump over Iran,
which we knew since he called him the Antichrist,
and how the country is being run by a secret cabal,
you know, all the usual Tucker stuff.
But there is something he said that is making some waves,
because the mask is off, and it shows who Tucker truly is,
a left-wing conspiracy theorist,
basically Bernie Sanders.
All right, enough of the buildup.
Here's the clip.
The true crisis in the country,
which has nothing to do with race,
and has to do with economics,
and the people benefiting from the private equity scams,
and the crypto scams,
and all the other scams underway in the American economy.
We don't really produce anything.
We just lend money at high interest,
sell real estate again and again.
Those people are getting richer than everyone else,
the billionaire class,
and they don't want to deal with questions about how exactly this works.
Why are they paying half the taxes
that you're paying as a wage earner?
I don't really get that.
And they don't want to have to defend it.
So instead, they're like,
the real problem is race.
And so in a normal country,
you just have a revolution.
People are like, I'm not putting up with this.
But in our country,
because every conversation is controlled by the media filter,
we don't even know what's happening.
And so people are like, well, my life sucks.
It must be the whites,
or some whites are like, it must be the blacks, or whatever.
It's like, this is racial foment.
This is racial conflict,
which is created by the people who are taking all the money.
Okay.
Tucker is just a Marxist.
It's not a slur.
It's a genuine description of his worldview.
He believes in class conflict.
He believes that all the outcomes are rigged by the rigged system.
He believes that they, wink wink,
are rigging the system by getting you all hot and bothered about trans
and Black Lives Matter,
racial divisions,
that you'll be distracted from the gigantic sucking sound,
from the rich people who are screwing you.
I mean, who does that sound like?
The worst fear that the ruling class in this country has
is that Americans, Black, white, Latino,
urban and rural, gay and straight, young and old,
that all of us will come together to demand a government
that represents all of the people in our country,
not just the wealthy few.
The oligarch's nightmare is that we will not allow ourselves
to be divided up by race, religion, sexual orientation,
or country of origin,
and we'll together have the courage to take them on.
Will this struggle be easy?
Absolutely not.
And one of the reasons for that
is that the ruling class of this country will constantly remind you
that they have all the power.
They control the government.
They own the media.
You want to take us on?
Good luck.
There is nothing you can do about it.
Hey, Tucker and Bernie are indistinguishable.
If you just switch the inflections, they sound the same.
Now, Tucker does this routine all the time,
but when he's called on, he says,
Me? A socialist?
Right, but I'm just wondering,
do people who generally like the free market
argue in favor of feudalism?
Again, this is the classic principle
of actually how you get a king, right?
Because they're generationally invested
in the well-being of the land they're ruling,
the people they're ruling,
and they have the power to control the outcomes there.
So if you actually care about that,
if you're actually going to benefit,
why not invest your control
in actually producing a better population?
I completely agree.
I mean, feudalism is so much better than what we have now
because at least in feudalism,
the leader is vested in the prosperity of the people he rules.
Right.
You know, if all your serfs die, you starve.
Yeah, there's a true incentive to care for those people.
I'm not saying that I just like capital.
I love, as an American, I love capitalism.
I mean, I hate capitalism, but I also, but I love it
because I don't want to be called a socialist,
but I really, really hate it.
I mean, really deep down.
Okay, here he was in 2019.
I mean, again, this goes back a ways.
People are just picking up on the tucker of it now.
Some of us were picking up on the tucker of this
some years ago, back in 2019,
when he was still on Fox News.
He was doing the capitalism robs us of our souls routine.
But first Republican leaders will have to acknowledge
that market capitalism is not a religion.
Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster.
You'd have to be a fool to worship it.
Our system was created by human beings
for the benefit of human beings.
We do not exist to serve markets, just the opposite.
Any economic system that weakens and destroys families
is not worth having.
A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society.
By the way, no one has argued
that we ought to worship the free markets.
The free markets are a description
of a private property system in which you have rights.
Tucker has been talking about collectivization
for quite a while.
The only thing really that distinguishes Tucker Carlson
from Bernie Sanders at this point
is that he doesn't like the trans.
And in his own words,
all that stuff is just a distraction anyway.
And of course, on foreign policy,
Tucker is utterly indistinguishable
from Zoran Mamdani, let alone Bernie Sanders.
Again, Tucker has direct access
to the White House right now.
It's important that if we're going to debate policy
out in the open,
then actual facts and logic should be deployed here
because shouting at the sky in deranged Twitter posts
that are longer than war and peace,
that probably isn't it.
Now, Tucker put out a bizarre tweet yesterday
that legitimately is a novel.
Ma'am, this is a Taco Bell.
And you tell me if this sounds like a guy
who should be guiding the future of the Republican Party
or American foreign policy.
So here is what he wrote.
We're going to have to break this down
because it's really, really, really long.
I'm just warning you, it's long
because something has gone wrong here.
So Tucker Carlson writes this quote.
Obviously, this little freak, he's talking about me.
Obviously, this little freak could go volunteer
to fight the war himself, but of course he won't.
He's got no interest in making any kind
of personal sacrifice.
Now, listen, I'm not going to get down in the mud
with Tucker by slinging names at him
or maligning his physical appearance.
That wouldn't be that tough, but I'm not going to do it.
I'm just going to point out the logical fallacies
of this rather effeminate and emotive vomit post.
So Tucker Carlson is in favor of ICE
deporting more people, as am I.
He could join ICE at any moment.
I mean, he could.
Why doesn't he?
Well, because he doesn't want to.
He's very comfortable in his main hideaway
or his Florida mansion or maybe that prospective house
in Qatar that he was bragging about recently.
Why won't he join ICE?
He could go volunteer to fight that war himself,
but of course he won't.
He's got no interest in making
that kind of personal sacrifice.
I see the silliness of the argument.
Okay, Tucker continues.
None of them do.
Them.
Who does he mean by them?
We'll see in just a moment.
Israel's finance minister bragged the other day
that having American soldiers fight Netanyahu's war
is the best for us.
Smotrich doesn't want to die for Israel.
Neither has Ben Shapiro.
Dying for Israel is your job, says Tucker Carlson.
So a lot of lies here from Tucker.
And again, trying to disentangle all the lies
in this bewildering array of silliness.
It's going to take a moment.
So we have to untangle it.
Let's start with this.
Vitalo Smotrich said that Israel had no interest
in pushing itself into an operation in Iran
in which the United States had said
it did not want Israel involved.
Israel, you will remember,
was fighting alongside the United States
for the entirety of the war
until the United States told Israel to stop,
which is when Israel stopped.
As far as his contention that Smotrich
doesn't want to die for Israel,
Smotrich served in the IDF.
His oldest son is in the IDF.
His oldest son was wounded by shrapnel
in the IDF in Lebanon.
What's more, nobody is asking you to die for Israel.
No one is asking anyone to die for Israel.
Trump isn't.
He doesn't want Americans to die for America,
let alone for Israel.
First of all, saying that you want the military
to take on America's enemies
is not asking Americans to die
any more than saying that you want the police
to crack down on, say, inner-city crime
is saying you want Americans to die
for your own safety.
Public policy is public policy.
Second, Trump isn't fighting this war for Israel.
He has said this a thousand times.
Tucker is a conspiracy theorist
who believes that Trump has been taken in
by the nefarious Jewish powers that be.
But Trump, you may have noticed,
is a rather independent human.
He's done a bunch of stuff during this war
that I don't like.
But wait for it, wait for it.
Tucker is going to claim that Trump is actually
a cat's paw for, of all the humans,
me personally.
You see, according to Tucker,
Trump works for me personally.
Like Ben Shapiro, he works for me.
I know, I know.
Well, folks, you might be getting the impression
that I'm mildly annoyed
by Tucker Carlson's foolishness.
And it is annoying, it is annoying.
But it's not quite as annoying
as the fact that the average human
needs something like 10 servings of fruits
and veggies a day
to actually cover their nutritional bases.
10.
I have five kids and a business and a podcast.
I do not have time to become a farmer.
I'm very skeptical of the biohackers
and validity of hyped up healthy products.
This is where the just take the powder stuff,
that's where the science ends
and the marketing begins.
But here's the thing,
if you do it in a simple and cohesive way,
it makes sense,
which is why I'm a big fan of balance of nature.
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Or for example,
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which is a big thing for me.
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every morning before breakfast.
The kids love those freeze dried snacks.
Nobody in my house has to look a kale salad
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So here's what he says.
You've got to wonder how people like this.
Again, he's talking about me.
Liars without honor,
wisdom or loyalty to the United States
wound up in positions of such profound influence
throughout our society.
Ah, it's a suspicious thing.
Okay, that's a lot of words.
And I do wonder at this point
whether Tucker genuinely owns a mirror.
He should look in one.
If you're talking about people who lie for a living,
Tucker lies like he breathes.
You may remember that time
that Tucker literally lied
directly to the New York Times.
They confronted him
about calling President Trump the antichrist,
and Tucker just lied
because, again, the man lies for a living.
But I ask because, you know,
you've been talking on your show
about whether Trump is the antichrist.
I have not said that.
On your show the day after Easter,
you noted he did not put his hand on the Bible
during his swearing-in ceremony as president.
You said, and I'm quoting,
maybe he didn't put his hand on the Bible
because he affirmatively rejects
what's inside that book.
And then on a recent show,
you went further saying,
here's a leader who's mocking
the gods of his ancestors,
mocking the God of gods,
and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the antichrist?
I actually did not say
could this be the antichrist.
Here's a leader who's mocking
the gods of his ancestors,
mocking the God of gods,
and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the antichrist?
Well, who knows?
I don't know where that comes from,
but I know that those words
never left my lips because
I'm not sure I fully understand
what the antichrist is.
If there's just one,
I actually tried to understand it.
I may have said some are asking that.
I'm not weighing in on that
because I don't understand it.
I don't understand it.
I just, I talk,
could he be the antichrist?
I don't know.
Maybe, maybe, no.
These are all questions that just have,
oh, does Tucker have a lot of honor, right?
He says that I have no honor.
Does he have a lot of honor?
I don't know.
I don't consider it the most honorable thing
to laugh at conspiracy theories,
maligning the wife
of my supposed friend, Charlie Kirk.
He takes the gun apart,
leaves the screwdriver there,
puts it under a towel,
Spider-Man's his way
off the top of a building,
runs across campus with the gun,
apparently under a towel.
Nobody sees this.
He runs into the woods,
puts the gun back together again
without the screwdriver.
He's a regular MacGyver, this guy.
And then he hides the gun
in the backyard of a house
owned by Palantir.
And if you think anything else besides that,
you're a crazy,
Jew-hating conspiracy nut.
Is Tucker Carlson wise?
I don't know.
That's not the first word
that might come to mind for me.
I'm not sure it's all that wise
to, say, attribute scratches
on your back
while you are in bed
with multiple dogs
to mysterious demons.
I had a direct experience with it.
In the milieu of journalism,
or just-
Nope.
In my bed at night,
and I got attacked
while I was asleep with my wife
and four dogs in the bed
and mauled,
physically mauled.
In a spiritual attack by a demon?
Yeah, by a demon.
Or by something unseen that left-
Is that right?
Claw marks on my sides, on my-
So it left physical marks.
Oh, they're still there.
Yeah, yeah.
A year and a half ago.
So much wisdom.
As for loyalty,
aside from, you know,
giving credibility to the worst enemies
of Charlie Kirk like Nick Fuentes,
I'm not sure it's the most loyal thing
to America to travel to Russia
to wax poetic about the tyrannical regime.
Or to host guests who talk about
why we need to cede power to China.
Or to label Hamas a political group.
Or to talk about the magic
of Iranian leadership
on behalf of the entire Middle East.
I don't know.
None of that seems
super-America-first loyal to me.
I don't know.
I mean-
Putin, who's been there for 25 years,
his country's improved.
The people are happier.
They like him, actually.
Putin has been the most effective leader
in my lifetime.
No one asked me whether Putin's our enemy.
Why is Putin my enemy?
He's never done anything to me.
He's never called me a racist.
And on Iran.
And the rest of the world
is watching this in horror,
and no one's doing anything about it.
The United States is abetting it.
The United States is helping it happen,
despite what they tell you.
Those are American weapons
and weapon systems being used
to murder Christians in Lebanon.
Who is doing something about it?
Iran.
Hate to say that.
Wish that weren't true.
Wish it didn't fall to Iran
to do something about this.
But it has, and they are.
And they're doing more about this
than any other country,
including ours,
including any of the Gulf states.
Sorry.
Yes, according to Tucker Carlson,
Iran is defending Christians in Lebanon.
Also on Hamas,
an actual terrorist group.
But he doesn't think it is.
You can't claim that they're in Hamas
while simultaneously claiming
that Hamas is a group of jihadis.
They're Islamic extremists,
which they also claim constantly.
Which I don't know if that's true,
by the way.
It seems more like a political
organization.
But whatever it is,
they're telling us constantly
they're Al Qaeda.
Okay.
Or here's Tucker.
America First Tucker talking about
the magic of Sharia law
making for clean cities.
There's not a single Western city
that's thriving.
And they're all degrading
in exactly the same way.
But you go to a country like Japan
or the Emirates or Qatar
or Saudi Arabia,
and you see that
when people are self-confident,
when they're really pleased
with what they're doing
and they believe that their system
is the right system,
that self-confidence results
in a kind of welcoming attitude.
So you'll be sitting at dinner
in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia,
and you'll say,
you know, I just,
I'm really kind of pro-Jesus.
Like I'm a Christian.
They'll be like,
that's so great.
And they don't have the same.
Well, they mean it.
And they don't have the same belief.
No, they're Muslims.
They're Muslims.
It's a country governed by Sharia law.
Right.
And they're like, that's great.
It's true.
And Islamist countries
all over the world,
they love Christianity.
It's what Sharia law is all about.
We'll get to more on this in a moment.
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Quote,
How did Mark Levin
get the president's cell phone number?
Why is Admiral Brad Cooper,
the man in charge of the Iran war,
secretly taking strategic advice
from crazed Israel show Mark Dubowitz?
It's also nuts and ultimately suicidal.
Future generations
will struggle to understand it.
In the meantime,
Trump will likely obey Ben Shapiro
as he has consistently for months.
So first of all,
I got to say,
awesome.
Apparently,
I have the incredible godlike power
to control President Trump.
So here's what President Trump should do.
I'm going to snap my fingers
and he's going to do it.
And the Department of Education
restructure Social Security and Medicare
burn through the regulatory state,
negotiate bilateral,
bilateral free trade agreements
to box in China,
use the DOJ to target
foreign influence operations,
including China, Russia, Iran,
Qatar and Turkey.
Man, there's so much that I would do.
And because I just snapped my fingers,
it happened.
In fact, on Iran,
Mr. President,
let's order some sorties
over Pickaxe Mountain,
bomb South Kars and Kharg into oblivion,
unleash some special operations
along with UAE and Israel
to wipe out IRGC forces
along the north shore
of the Strait of Hormuz
and use our Navy
to force open the Strait
without the permission of the Saudis.
And then just for good measure,
let's kill Khalaba Fahidi
and the new gay Ayatollah Enes Peglag.
Let's do all those things.
And I just said it.
It happened.
Let's also unleash the Israelis
on Hezbollah in Lebanon,
unleash the Saudis on the Houthis
and also, by the way,
unleash the Ukrainians on the Russians.
And then we can all come home
and pop a brewski.
Here's the thing.
We all know that President Trump
is rather independent.
Sometimes he agrees
with the things that I say
and sometimes that he doesn't.
But Tucker saying that Trump obeys me
is absurd on its face.
But don't worry, there's more.
I know this.
This tweet was a Russian novel quote.
We can predict the results
because every neocon victory
is identical.
Huge numbers of innocent people killed,
disproportionately Christians,
economic destruction,
famine, mass migration
and deepening authoritarianism at home.
That's what they're demanding
because that's what they want.
Hey, who's he talking about?
The mysteries, the mysteries of the universe.
Okay, so let's start again.
Not a neocon.
Neocon refers to two groups of people
who have been conflated.
First, the people who were Democrats
in the 60s and were mugged by reality
and then became Republicans, right?
Neocon, new conservative.
That's what that meant.
And then second,
Wilsonian foreign policy people
who wanted Iraq to become
a functioning and thriving democracy
and same for Afghanistan.
I don't fall into either
of these two categories.
I've been a conservative my entire life.
I was never a Lib.
The record is absolutely clear.
I've been writing a conservative column
since I was 17 years old.
It was syndicated nationally.
I have not changed my views.
Tucker, meanwhile,
has gone through more positions
than the Kama Sutra during that time.
I'm also not Wilsonian in my foreign policy.
I opposed intervention in Libya, for example.
I was skeptical of democracy
in Afghanistan and Iraq.
They actually got something
of a democracy in Iraq.
I was skeptical of involvement in Syria.
Then there's the third meaning of neocon
that people use and they just mean Jew.
As per the usual arrangement,
but let's continue.
According to Tucker,
my goal is, quote,
huge numbers of innocent people
killed disproportionately Christians.
This is insane.
It is the only word for it.
I would, like all Americans,
prefer the fewest number
of innocent people killed
in consonance with the pursuit
of American interests.
In the best of all possible worlds,
that number would be zero.
Sadly, our enemies know
that we care about civilian life
more than they do.
So they tend to hide behind civilians.
I am not willing to forego American interest
because terrorists act like terrorists.
As for this contention
that I want Christians,
disproportionately Christian people
to be killed.
What the ever loving?
What the first off,
Tucker should read a book
like any book,
like One Fish, Two Fish,
Red Fish, Blue Fish.
Here is a list of our wars
since World War Two,
our major conflicts,
the Korean War.
Hey, when Kim Il-sung took over
the heavily Christian North
fled south to the area
protected by America,
we were protecting Christians
and killing communists.
The Vietnam War, same deal.
There were lots of Christians
in the north.
They fled south
when the commies took over
and we were fighting the commies.
Fast forward to the Iraq war.
We were fighting and killing
not disproportionately Christians.
We were fighting and killing
disproportionately Iraqi Muslims.
The second Iraq war, same deal.
The Afghan war,
we were fighting and killing
Afghan radical Muslims.
The current Iran war,
we are fighting and killing
Persian radical Muslims.
All of those people, by the way,
routinely attacked and killed Christians.
In fact, now that I come to think of it,
if I really think about it
for more than like half a second,
there are, in fact,
some conflicts on planet Earth
where Christians are being
disproportionately targeted.
Tucker has been either silent on those
or in favor of them.
In Nigeria, Christians are being massacred
and Tucker is saying
pretty much nothing about that.
He's saying nothing about the Christians
in Lebanon targeted by Hezbollah,
which is why Lebanon went
from a thriving Christian country
to a Muslim-dominated,
Hezbollah-dominated country.
In Ukraine, Tucker has been
on the side of Russia,
you know, the country that launched
the war,
the war in which hundreds of thousands
of Christians have been killed.
Tucker has spent the entire war
performing unspeakable acts
on Vladimir Putin.
So, of course, it's incoherent,
ugly nonsense from Tucker for the course.
He also says,
I want economic destruction
as he stumps for more global power
for Russia and China
and praises again feudalism.
He also adds for good measure
that I want famine and mass migration
and authoritarianism here at home.
So just to point out,
Russia's war has wiped out
Ukrainian grain production.
Russia's in favor of Russia.
Tucker's in favor of Russia.
As far as mass migration,
I'm against it.
I have always been against it.
I'm in favor of Trump's immigration policy
while Tucker continues to stand
for Muslim terrorist supporters
to be kept around green cards.
And as for authoritarianism,
I'm in favor of slicing and dicing
the federal government
down to the size of a thimble.
Tucker has been in favor
of a wide variety of expansions
of the federal government,
you know,
to cure the evils of capitalism.
But there's more.
I know it's a never-ending tweet.
What can we do to stop it?
Apparently not much,
but we can remember
what happened and why,
so that history records the truth.
Otherwise, when the war ends in disaster,
as it inevitably will,
Ben Shapiro will be able
to blame you for it.
So, of course, in the end,
Tucker's recipe is despair.
There's nothing you can do
because I have total control.
Man, wait until my wife.
There's about the level of total control
I exert on this planet.
Maybe I won't have to take out
the garbage anymore at 11 p.m.
But in the end,
there is what Tucker actually wants,
what he actually wants.
He wants for the United States to lose.
And he is angry at President Trump
because President Trump
is refusing to lose.
If, in fact, President Trump
takes Tucker's advice,
which could happen,
or if Trump's top negotiator
in the MOU does,
and he talks to Tucker regularly,
we will be worse off
and we'll evaluate then.
But no one on Earth
will be sadder
if we open the Strait of Hormuz
and end the Iranian threat
than one Tucker Carlson.
Because again,
he's just Bernie Sanders
with more hair and a flannel shirt
and a nicotine addiction.
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