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You wake up. You get your coffee. You pay the minimum payment on your credit card. You give yourself a pat on the back because you did the thing. Six months go by and your balance has barely gone down at all, though... what gives?
Banks and credit card companies purposely set you up for failure by putting you into the Minimum Payment Trance - you're making payments every month, but you'll never pay it all off. TODAY, I'm going to snap you out of that trance and show you the exact ways to find your number and take back control over your finances!
Chapters 0:00 - 00:31 The Trance You Didn't Know About 0:32 - How Banks Normalize the Trance 2:07 - Manipulative Numbers 6:40 - Run the Receipts 9:43 - Bank Match vs Brain Math 10:43 - Your Wake-Up Number 14:13 - How to Get Out of the Trance 15:51 - The Wake-Up Number Tool
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Have you ever noticed that your credit card app makes it really easy to pay 40 bucks,
but almost impossible to see how much interest is actually being charged?
That's not an accident. That's the minimum payment trance.
It's this little hypnosis your credit card company sends you every month,
telling you, it's fine. Shh, shh, shh, shh. Just make the minimum payment. You're handling it.
But today I'm going to show you exactly how banks are making you feel safe for being in debt
for years, and then I'm going to wake you out of it.
But before we look into the math, I want you to recognize
how this trap is becoming even more normalized. This isn't just for people who are bad with money.
If you've ever looked at your credit card statement and thought,
this thing is barely moving. I'm literally making payments. You're not crazy.
Americans have about $1.25 trillion in credit card debt with the average American
holding close to $6,600 in credit card debt alone. And the interest rates are just rude.
The average credit card interest rate is hovering around 21.52%.
So a credit card balance at $6,500 at a 21% interest rate is not just sitting there.
It's actively working against you because from the outside,
it looks like you're doing the responsible thing. You're paying on time.
You're making the minimum payments. Things are working. You're staying current,
but the next month rolls around and the balance is just sitting there like a toxic
X that won't leave your life. And the worst part is you start blaming yourself.
You think maybe I'm just bad with money. Maybe you're just bad with money.
Maybe I'm not disciplined enough. Maybe you're just not disciplined enough.
Maybe I'm never going to get out of this.
Look, what's happening here is just a lot of math. And the math is designed to work
better for the banks than it is for you. So how did you fall into a trance?
It all started with a tiny number your bank trained you to trust.
The minimum payment trance is when the bank gives you a tiny monthly number
that makes your debt feel manageable, but the interest calculation quietly keeps your balance
profitable because the minimum payment isn't the payoff plan. It's your bank's lowest acceptable
effort. It's the smallest amount they'll accept to keep your account in good standing
while they continue to charge you interest. And that tiny number is psychologically powerful
because paying $40 or $75, even $136 feels manageable. It feels like you're taking care
of the debt. You're staying current. You're avoiding late fees. You're on top of it.
But what's usually not obvious is your credit card app doesn't exactly tell you how much of
that minimum payment is going towards the balance and how much is just going towards
straight interest. And this is where the trance starts to happen. Your brain sees progress made.
Your bank sees that interest has been charged and they've made a profit on you. And that's a very
different experience. So I'm pretty sure that my best friend went through this exact scenario.
So let's call her and ask.
Hi. Quick question for you. Yeah. When you had credit card debt back in the day,
did you make minimum payments? Oh yeah. We only made minimum payments.
Do you remember how much it was? On one credit card I think we had around
15, almost $16,000. I feel like the payments were like 450, but where it usually hung out
around was like 8,000 before it got to that point. I feel like it was closer to like 250.
And when you were making the 250 payments, did it feel
like your debt balance was going down or did it stay the same?
Honestly, I feel like I didn't know enough at that time. So I thought that like,
oh, the minimum payments is what's going to help me pay it down in a fair amount of time
and feeling like, oh, we're doing this, but it's tacking down. But in reality,
it really isn't. It's like a hundred dollars really a month it was going down in principle.
And then the rest of those payments, the rest of that payment was all interest.
Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah. I know. That's how it works. If there is somebody out there who is
in credit card debt and they're just making the minimum payments and they're
feeling like kind of overwhelmed, what would you tell them?
So step one, build a budget. Step two, just like, look at where your money,
look at the money coming in and the money coming out. And I think when we realized that
what I thought was just all this extra money, which was just me meeting my minimum payments
on everything. And then realizing I had this, these extra funds using that to put towards
the debt to pay down, made that debt go by so much quicker. The sense of like pride and
accomplishment, getting that big balance down just felt great. And it was it, it took care of,
I feel like the, the high I was looking for when I would buy small purchases, like I have this
extra money, I'm going to buy these extra things, but seeing that actual debt go down and get down
to zero, it filled me with so much more happiness and joy long-term than any of those like little
purchases did. Oh, I love that. I think that's so, so motivating for people to hear. I love that.
And I love you. Thank you so much. I love you always, always baby.
Okay. I'll talk to you later. Talk to you later. All right. Bye hun.
There you have it. I mean, you heard, you heard it first. She basically said,
you've got to track your income and expenses. Know exactly where your money is going. That's
so true because if you don't know where the money is going, you're never going to be able
to make a realistic debt payoff plan to get you out of high interest credit card debt. And with
that, so now I want to show you an actual credit card statement, a real life example in this next
segment, I like to call run the receipts. So I don't want to show you a fake example. We need
the real hard facts because this is what's going to tell us exactly how much interest is being
charged and how these banks make money off of you. So on this Wells Fargo statement, you can
see the new balance is $6,354. The minimum payment is 136 bucks. Now that balance is almost exactly
in the range of the average American carrying about $6,500 in credit card debt. So it's very
close. And at first glance, $136 feels doable because you're probably thinking your brain is
I can make $136 work, but let's actually look down to see what the interest was charged for
this particular month. So at 15.65% interest, the balance subject to the interest rate was $5,429.95.
In a 31 day billing cycle, the interest charge was $72.16. Now mind you on this example,
there were other transactions that got added to that balance, which left them with a new balance
of over $6,300. This is how banks are profiting off of you in plain sight. They're actually giving
you how they got that interest charge right on the account statement. For those of you who need
the math on this, this is how this is being calculated. What you do is you take that balance
subject to interest, which was the $5,429.95. You multiply that by the interest rate and then
you divide that by 365 days. The daily interest charge is $2.32. Multiply that by 31 and that's
the $72 and change that they got charged in interest. So if you're making a $136 minimum
payment, $72 of that is just going towards straight interest. That leaves about $63.84
actually moving you forward. So you're not really making $136 payment towards your debt.
You're making a $64 payment towards your debt and a $72 payment to the bank. And that's why
it feels like your credit card debt is barely moving because it is barely moving. The bank
gets paid first and then your balance gets whatever's left over. If this is already making
your brain go, wait, I need to look at my credit card statement. Hit like and subscribe because
this is exactly what we do here. We take the confusing parts about money that your bank is
tricking you into and we break it down so that you can take actionable steps forward. But this isn't
just a math problem. It's a behavioral problem because the math and your brain are having two
completely different conversations, which leads me into my next segment, bank math versus brain
math. So brain math says I made the payment. Bank math says we collected the interest. Brain math
says it was a target order, a Costco run, a little tree, a little Girl Scout cookie situation. It hurt
nobody. Bank math says, cool, we're going to bundle all of that together in one balance and start
charging interest on it every single day. And listen, I love a little tree. I'm not here to
cancel joy. I want you spending money on the things that you value. But when those things
are then being charged 15% interest, 21%, 29% interest, it takes on a whole life of its own.
And it's a life you don't want to be living because now it's a little treat with a finance
charge. And that's much less cute. If it feels like the things with your credit card debt is
a little hopeless, I want to share exactly the wake up number you need to get you out of this.
Going back to this credit card statement here, credit card companies are required to give you a
minimum payment warning. And it's actually hiding in plain sight. In this Wells Fargo example,
it actually says if you make only the minimum payment each period, you will pay more in
interest and it will take you longer to pay off your balance. It gives an example. If this person
was to only make the minimum payment, the payoff would be in 20 years, you would end up paying an
estimated total of $13,567. I laugh to keep from crying because 20 years to pay off a balance of
$6,300 is nuts. But here's where things get interesting. If you actually made a $222 payment,
you'd pay off the complete balance in three years and end up paying a total of $8,004.
So let's look at the difference. The minimum payment is $136. The three year payment is $222.
That difference is $86 a month. $86 in extra payments per month buys you back 17 years.
17 years. That's not a small difference. That is entire decades. That's your 30s, your 40s,
you raising kids, buying a home, taking the vacation, living your life, all because of an
extra $86 per month. That's the number that I want you to look for. So you're no longer looking at
just the minimum payment. You're looking for that three year payoff number, or maybe it's a
faster number where you want to get out of credit card debt in an even shorter amount of time.
So now the question becomes, what if you don't actually have an extra $86 just sitting around
every month? Oh no. Hello? Hey, quick question. Why are we letting a credit card company plan
the next 20 years of our life? I'm not letting a credit card company plan my life. I'm just saying,
where am I supposed to find an extra $86? Open Monarch. That was aggressive.
So is 20 years of credit card interest. Open Monarch. Okay, fair. Monarch is a personal finance
platform that lets you see your entire financial picture all in one place. It helps you look for
your number, what's actually available in your cashflow, bills, spending, and your budget.
So we're not looking for extra money. We're looking for money that left without a plan.
So instead of guessing, let's look at our spending categories. Restaurants, shopping,
subscriptions. Ooh, what about those random target runs that take on a whole personality
trait? Thanks to Monarch, we found $18 from a subscription that we forgot about,
a $42 saved from not spending money on takeout. And what about that shirt that's still hanging
in the closet with the tags on worth 26 bucks? So see, the $86 wasn't missing. It was hiding in
our spending. Okay, that was actually helpful. Slightly rude, but helpful. So if you want a
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And now that future Justine was so aggressive about visibility, let's talk about what you can
do if you can't find your wake up number, but still get you out of the minimum payment trance.
The first thing is you have to stop treating the minimum payment as the payoff plan. It is not a
payoff plan. It may keep you current, but it doesn't get you free. Getting you free from credit
card debt means making any payment, any extra payment above the minimum. And most credit card
companies are charging you daily interest. So the timing of your payment matters, which is where
micro payments come in. A micro payment is just a small extra payment you make anytime extra money
comes in. You find $5, $10, $23 from returning something to target, $40 you saved from not
spending money on takeout. Instead of waiting until the end of the month to make one extra
large payment, you're going to start making small payments every single time you find that money.
Why? Because it effectively brings down your principal and it reduces the amount of interest
being charged on that balance. So if you lower the balance earlier, the bank has less money to
charge interest on. So is one $10 payment going to magically erase your debt? No, but the micro
payments do one of two things. They reduce the balance sooner and they keep you awake because
the opposite of the minimum payment trance is active participation. You are no longer letting
the bank decide the payment. You are deciding the payment and that's the real behavior change here.
You are taking the control back and the power back from your bank by deciding exactly what you're
going to do with your payment. And that's the real behavior change here. Not just paying more,
but taking the decision making power back from the bank. Don't let your credit card pick your
debt payoff plan. It's going to show you the number that benefits the bank. It's going to
show you that minimum payment, make it really easy to tap that button and feel like you have closure.
The behavior shift is going into your current account statement and looking at your numbers
before you go into your credit card app. Again, I want you to do one thing differently this month.
You're going to pull up your latest credit card statement, not the app, but the actual statement.
Most cases you're going to have to download a PDF for some reason. Inside of the statement,
you're going to find the minimum payment, the interest charged and your three-year payoff
number. And the difference between your minimum payment and the three-year payoff amount,
that's your wake up number. And if you want help running your own numbers, I've created a free
wake up number calculator on my site. So you can plug in your credit card balance,
your interest rate and your minimum payment, and it'll tell you exactly how long your payoff will
actually take. And it'll show you what changes when you add a little bit extra, because I don't
want you guessing. I want you knowing the exact numbers to help you get out of this permanently.
I think anytime that you can see a real timeline with your numbers is going to motivate you to
actually take care of this. So I'll link to that calculator in the description of this video.
And then comment below with what your wake up number is. You can literally say my wake up number
is and then tell me what the number is because I want to cheer you on. And this community wants
to support you in the debt free goals that you're after this year. I think what a lot of people are
going to realize is that wake up number is probably smaller than what they're thinking.
You're not bad with money. You're simply in a system that makes you feel like making the
smallest payment is the responsible thing to do. But now you know how to read the statement,
how much interest is actually being charged, and the tool to help you wake up out of the trance.
And if you're looking for real inspo on paying off credit card debt, you'll want to check out
this next video where I found real people paying off mad amounts of credit card debt very fast.